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DaKCMan AP 12-13-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7255440)
Heh, Vandy is about to announce a better head coaching hire than Florida just did.

Supposedly Gus Malzahn has received an offer from Vandy for their opening and is going to accept it.

LMAO

If you think Malzahn is a better hire than Muschamp then you're clueless. Given it's you posting, I'm not surprised.

the Talking Can 12-13-2010 09:39 AM

cowherd claiming Pelini was going to be the coach at Florida until rumor got out and he scuttled it...

DaKCMan AP 12-13-2010 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7255563)
cowherd claiming Pelini was going to be the coach at Florida until rumor got out and he scuttled it...

Cowherd's full of crap.

eazyb81 12-13-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7255549)
LMAO

If you think Malzahn is a better hire than Muschamp then you're clueless. Given it's you posting, I'm not surprised.

Great rebuttal there doofus.

Muschamp's 50th ranked UT defense sure was nasty this year.

Is Stoops coming in to be Muschamp's D-coordinator? LMAO

kepp 12-13-2010 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7248922)
No certainty that a good coordinator will become a good head coach.

Well, if he doesn't succeed as a head coach at UF he's got no excuses. He'll have all the resources he could ever ask for.

eazyb81 12-13-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 7255582)
Well, if he doesn't succeed as a head coach at UF he's got no excuses. He'll have all the resources he could ever ask for.

No doubt. It's kind of funny though watching Gator fans try to spin this as a great hire, considering the names they were throwing around before the Muschamp news surfaced.

Stoops? Petrino? Saban? Mullen? Gruden? Muschamp.

One of these things is not like the other......

DaKCMan AP 12-13-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7255581)
Great rebuttal there doofus.

Muschamp's 50th ranked UT defense sure was nasty this year.

Is Stoops coming in to be Muschamp's D-coordinator? LMAO

First, Texas was 7th in total defense (51st in pts/gm) in 2010. The whole team was awful in 2010. Their O was 59th overall and 87th in ppg. Even a great D is going to break with an O that bad.

But go ahead and discount that Muschamp was DC in the SEC for 5 years and each time his D was top-10 in the country. Discount that the previous 2 years in 2009 and 2008 Texas his D's were 3rd and 50th in total D (8th and 20th in pts/gm), respectively.

Then look at Malzahn who 4 years ago was a high school coach. His offense at Arkansas was good (with McFadden, Jones, and Hillis - none of whom he recruited) and his two years at Tulsa his O's were mixed but trending downward: 38th in Total O & 47th in ppg in 2009 and 2nd in total O & pts in 2008.

No one mentioned Muschamp because no one even thought he was available. He was HCIW at Texas, a top-3 job. Yet Malzahn was a better hire? ROFL

eazyb81 12-13-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7255684)
First, Texas was 7th in total defense (51st in pts/gm) in 2010. The whole team was awful in 2010. Their O was 59th overall and 87th in ppg. Even a great D is going to break with an O that bad.

But go ahead and discount that Muschamp was DC in the SEC for 5 years and each time his D was top-10 in the country. Discount that the previous 2 years in 2009 and 2008 Texas his D's were 3rd and 50th in total D (8th and 20th in pts/gm), respectively.

Then look at Malzahn who 4 years ago was a high school coach. His offense at Arkansas was good (with McFadden, Jones, and Hillis - none of whom he recruited) and his two years at Tulsa his O's were mixed but trending downward: 38th in Total O & 47th in ppg in 2009 and 2nd in total O & pts in 2008.

No one mentioned Muschamp because no one even thought he was available. He was HCIW at Texas, a top-3 job. Yet Malzahn was a better hire? ROFL

51st in points a game with arguably more talent than any school in the country? Sounds like the makings of a great head coach. Kudos!

Who wouldn't rather have Will Muschamp over Bob Stoops, Nick Saban, or Bobby Petrino.

Just admit it - you look silly for throwing out those ridiculous names earlier in the process. Muschamp is a fine head coach prospect, but he's no different than any other "hot" coordinator that is available every year.

It would have been impressive if Florida snagged a big name HC like the fans bragged about, but frankly Muschamp is the most meh name that was mentioned.

Could it be a homerun hire? Sure. But in has to be a disappointment, whether you admit or not, considering the names that were bandied about leading up to it and his complete lack of head coaching experience.

On the other hand, Malzahn's offense has been incredible this year at Auburn. In a vacuum, the Malzahn hire at Vandy is a much better hire than Muschamp at Florida. That is a no doubt homerun, even though he will most likely never win more games in a season than Muschamp will at UF.

Saul Good 12-13-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7255684)
First, Texas was 7th in total defense (51st in pts/gm) in 2010. The whole team was awful in 2010. Their O was 59th overall and 87th in ppg. Even a great D is going to break with an O that bad.

But go ahead and discount that Muschamp was DC in the SEC for 5 years and each time his D was top-10 in the country. Discount that the previous 2 years in 2009 and 2008 Texas his D's were 3rd and 50th in total D (8th and 20th in pts/gm), respectively.

Then look at Malzahn who 4 years ago was a high school coach. His offense at Arkansas was good (with McFadden, Jones, and Hillis - none of whom he recruited) and his two years at Tulsa his O's were mixed but trending downward: 38th in Total O & 47th in ppg in 2009 and 2nd in total O & pts in 2008.

No one mentioned Muschamp because no one even thought he was available. He was HCIW at Texas, a top-3 job. Yet Malzahn was a better hire? ROFL

Nobody mentioned Muschamp be cause he was a HCIW (behind a coach that just signed a monster extension) but Stoops and Saban were bandied about?

DaKCMan AP 12-13-2010 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7255723)
51st in points a game with arguably more talent than any school in the country? Sounds like the makings of a great head coach. Kudos!

Who wouldn't rather have Will Muschamp over Bob Stoops, Nick Saban, or Bobby Petrino.

Just admit it - you look silly for throwing out those ridiculous names earlier in the process. Muschamp is a fine head coach prospect, but he's no different than any other "hot" coordinator that is available every year.

It would have been impressive if Florida snagged a big name HC like the fans bragged about, but frankly Muschamp is the most meh name that was mentioned.

Could it be a homerun hire? Sure. But in has to be a disappointment, whether you admit or not, considering the names that were bandied about leading up to it and his complete lack of head coaching experience.

On the other hand, Malzahn's offense has been incredible this year at Auburn. In a vacuum, the Malzahn hire at Vandy is a much better hire than Muschamp at Florida. That is a no doubt homerun, even though he will most likely never win more games in a season than Muschamp will at UF.

Of course the Muschamp hire has risk to it. He hasn't been a HC. I was throwing out what I was hearing, which was Stoops/Petersen. All of the "insiders" were wrong. All the media outlets were wrong. It happens.

kepp 12-13-2010 12:18 PM

I wonder if he was their first choice?

DaKCMan AP 12-13-2010 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 7255871)
I wonder if he was their first choice?

Foley is saying he was and that he didn't speak or contact anyone else, but what else would you expect him to say? Who the hell knows.

Titty Meat 12-13-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7255563)
cowherd claiming Pelini was going to be the coach at Florida until rumor got out and he scuttled it...

LOL! Cowherd is so Obsessed with Pelini and him leaving Nebraska.

DaKCMan AP 12-13-2010 01:19 PM

Apparently Malzahn has turned down Vandy.

Titty Meat 12-13-2010 01:23 PM

Auburn is going to still suck next year.

Saul Good 12-13-2010 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 7256032)
Auburn is going to still suck next year.

Still suck? Because they suck so bad this year?

Titty Meat 12-13-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7256047)
Still suck? Because they suck so bad this year?

More knowledge from Saul Good.

Reaper16 12-13-2010 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7256047)
Still suck? Because they suck so bad this year?

I think billay meant that Malzahn staying at Auburn won't have an effect on Auburn's expected suckiness next year (the implication being that there is an expectation that a Malzahn departure would mean the Tigers would suck).

Titty Meat 12-13-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7256070)
I think billay meant that Malzahn staying at Auburn won't have an effect on Auburn's expected suckiness next year (the implication being that there is an expectation that a Malzahn departure would mean the Tigers would suck).

They have 24 Seniors on the team and Cam Newton likely won't be back. I didn't point this out to him because having a conversation with someone who thinks everything they say = fact is rather pointless.

Titty Meat 12-13-2010 01:44 PM

Plus Bama and Florida will be improved IMO and Georgia will be the new Auburn.

CoMoChief 12-13-2010 02:50 PM

Texas HS recruits
Florida HS recruits

Not a bad pipeline if you ask me

Saul Good 12-13-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 7256074)
They have 24 Seniors on the team and Cam Newton likely won't be back. I didn't point this out to him because having a conversation with someone who thinks everything they say = fact is rather pointless.

I've never given you rep, but I'm the unreasonable one. Looks like you had a busy day today, DJ Jazzy Ginger.

Saul Good 12-13-2010 06:47 PM

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I guess the gym must have been closed today just like it was last week.

the Talking Can 12-13-2010 06:48 PM

auburn had a top 3 recruiting class this year, i think.....they pay a lot of people

DaKCMan AP 12-14-2010 06:19 PM

Muschamp just had his introductory press conference. Very exciting to listen to, an intense speaker, high energy, and gets you pumped up.

Said Florida will run a pro-style O and pro-style D.. so the spread option is likely gone. Wants to hire an OC that has both pro & college experience.

Said as long as Will Muschamp is the head coach at Florida, Urban Meyer will be involved with this program. He's not worried about perception, only worried about the players and winning.

DaKCMan AP 01-03-2011 07:01 PM

Very satisfied with the staff Muschamp has hired.

Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks - Charlie Weis
Running backs - Stan Drayton
Wide receivers - Aubrey Hill
Tight ends - Brian White
Offensive line - Frank Verducci

Defensive Coordinator/Defensive line - Dan Quinn
Linebackers/special teams - D.J. Durkin
Defensive backs - Travaris Robinson

Strength & Conditioning - Mickey Marotti

The Bad Guy 01-03-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7318890)
Very satisfied with the staff Muschamp has hired.

Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks - Charlie Weis
Running backs - Stan Drayton
Wide receivers - Aubrey Hill
Tight ends - Brian White
Offensive line - Frank Verducci

Defensive Coordinator/Defensive line - Dan Quinn
Linebackers/special teams - D.J. Durkin
Defensive backs - Travaris Robinson

Strength & Conditioning - Mickey Marotti

I'm glad the Chiefs didn't let Chaz Bono raid our offensive staff.

The Bad Guy 01-03-2011 07:02 PM

Question, if you had to chose between Weis staying with the Chiefs, or going to Florida, which do you side with?

SAUTO 01-03-2011 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7318894)
Question, if you had to chose between Weis staying with the Chiefs, or going to Florida, which do you side with?

Lol.
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siberian khatru 01-03-2011 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7318894)
Question, if you had to chose between Weis staying with the Chiefs, or going to Florida, which do you side with?

I don't think the guy's a Chiefs fan, is he? He never discusses Chiefs football.

Gators, college football, NBA ... but how many Chiefs posts?

Ebolapox 01-03-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 7318915)
I don't think the guy's a Chiefs fan, is he? He never discusses Chiefs football.

Gators, college football, NBA ... but how many Chiefs posts?

oh, and (either marlins or rays when they're winning) baseball.

DaKCMan AP 01-03-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7318894)
Question, if you had to chose between Weis staying with the Chiefs, or going to Florida, which do you side with?

Tough call which I thankfully don't have to make. I think Florida needs Weis more than the Chiefs do, mainly because Muschamp is a defensive minded coach where Haley is an offensive minded coach.

Reaper16 01-03-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 7318915)
I don't think the guy's a Chiefs fan, is he? He never discusses Chiefs football.

Gators, college football, NBA ... but how many Chiefs posts?

He's totally a Chiefs fan. He went to Canton for DT's HoF enshrinement. Dude's legit.

siberian khatru 01-03-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7318946)
He's totally a Chiefs fan. He went to Canton for DT's HoF enshrinement. Dude's legit.

kay. Just don't recall him discussing the team. To each his own.

DaKCMan AP 01-14-2011 01:34 PM

The final member of Muschamp's staff is DLine coach Bryant Young. Yes, that Bryant Young who won a Super Bowl and went to Pro Bowls for the 49ers and was on the 1990 All-Decade Team. Awesome :)


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