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Direckshun 03-04-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7466160)
Dude....not even close in comparisons.

And I'm not taking Peterson because the need and value don't match up for the Panthers.

I wouldn't select Peterson #1 overall anyway. But he's the best talent.

I would have gone Newton or Dareus.

The Franchise 03-04-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7466425)
I wouldn't select Peterson #1 overall anyway. But he's the best talent.

I would have gone Newton or Dareus.

I'm not taking a player that has one year of work.

Direckshun 03-04-2011 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7466430)
I'm not taking a player that has one year of work.

Right because that would be a poor use of your franchise's payroll, right? Unless making NFL history by selecting a WR without elite size or speed #1 overall.

The Franchise 03-04-2011 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7466435)
Right because that would be a poor use of your franchise's payroll, right? Unless making NFL history by selecting a WR without elite size or speed #1 overall.

Dude....where exactly are you getting this elite size and speed shit?

Height: 6-4. Weight: 211.
Combine 40 Time: 4.48.

Direckshun 03-04-2011 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7466455)
Dude....where exactly are you getting this elite size and speed shit?

Height: 6-4. Weight: 211.
Combine 40 Time: 4.48.

That's good size/speed. That ain't Calvin Johnson.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-04-2011 12:30 PM

You can have elite size without having CJ size. Green has that. Besides, it's not his size/speed that makes him a rare talent, it's his ability to control his body in space for his size.

DaKCMan AP 03-04-2011 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7466435)
Right because that would be a poor use of your franchise's payroll, right? Unless making NFL history by selecting a WR without elite size or speed #1 overall.

Give it up already.

Have you never heard of Keyshawn Johnson?

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-04-2011 12:37 PM

Anyone else find it funny that Hootie bitched out of the other mock?

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-04-2011 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7466500)
Give it up already.

Have you never heard of Keyshawn Johnson?

This.

I hate when these early picks turn into holy wars. The guy didn't draft Jon Baldwin #1 overall.

If you want to snipe on someone for a pick you thought was a reach, fine, but it doesn't need to go on endlessly.

Relative to the needs of the team and the talent on the board, it's a perfectly logical pick. In pads, the guy looks like the best player in the class. Stop making the draft a referendum on whether or not people followed your board.

The Franchise 03-04-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7466502)
Anyone else find it funny that Hootie bitched out of the other mock?

I found it hilarious.

Titty Meat 03-04-2011 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7466502)
Anyone else find it funny that Hootie bitched out of the other mock?

The dish washer quit this week now Hootie is a hybrid between bus boy and diswahser.

DeezNutz 03-04-2011 01:21 PM

Pick #11 is ****ing wrong.

doomy3 03-04-2011 01:34 PM

Son of a bitch.

I did not see the Peterson pick to the Bengals coming at all.

I thought for sure the way this was unfolding that the 49ers would have one of either Von Miller or Patrick Peterson on the board at 7. ****.

Titty Meat 03-04-2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7466618)
Son of a bitch.

I did not see the Peterson pick to the Bengals coming at all.

I thought for sure the way this was unfolding that the 49ers would have one of either Von Miller or Patrick Peterson on the board at 7. ****.

Just don't draft who I'm going to draft and you'll be good.

Direckshun 03-04-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7466508)
This.

I hate when these early picks turn into holy wars. The guy didn't draft Jon Baldwin #1 overall.

If you want to snipe on someone for a pick you thought was a reach, fine, but it doesn't need to go on endlessly.

Relative to the needs of the team and the talent on the board, it's a perfectly logical pick. In pads, the guy looks like the best player in the class. Stop making the draft a referendum on whether or not people followed your board.

One of the drafturbators accosting other discussants of the draft for being abrasive or aggressive. Hysterical.

It's a discussion, for shit's sakes. Set the rules so that we all golf clap after each selection, or accept that a dispute or two is going to break out in a mock draft.

DeezNutz 03-04-2011 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7466618)
Son of a bitch.

I did not see the Peterson pick to the Bengals coming at all.

I thought for sure the way this was unfolding that the 49ers would have one of either Von Miller or Patrick Peterson on the board at 7. ****.

You've talked pretty highly about Newton to go the Peterson/Von Miller route, even if they were on the board.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-04-2011 01:42 PM

I almost regret leaving, just so I could beat Direckshun in the draft again.

Direckshun 03-04-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 7466639)
I almost regret leaving, just so I could beat Direckshun in the draft again.

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'Hamas' Jenkins 03-04-2011 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7466633)
One of the drafturbators accosting other discussants of the draft for being abrasive or aggressive. Hysterical.

It's a discussion, for shit's sakes. Set the rules so that we all golf clap after each selection, or accept that a dispute or two is going to break out in a mock draft.

Yay, more straw men.

There's a difference between an active discussion and a Hootification of the draft that seems to happen with these early picks almost every year.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-04-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7466618)
Son of a bitch.

I did not see the Peterson pick to the Bengals coming at all.

I thought for sure the way this was unfolding that the 49ers would have one of either Von Miller or Patrick Peterson on the board at 7. ****.

Sorry, mang. Just didn't trust Fairley, Dareus, or Newton enough.

The Franchise 03-04-2011 02:04 PM

I'm sure I royally screwed up everyone's boards by taking AJ Green at #1.

doomy3 03-04-2011 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7466637)
You've talked pretty highly about Newton to go the Peterson/Von Miller route, even if they were on the board.

Yeah, I love Newton. I love him in a vertical offense.

Not sure I love him so much in Harbaugh's West Coast Offense that places such a value on accuracy.

I would have taken him if I had the Cardinals though. And he is one of 3 I am now looking at for the 7 pick.

doomy3 03-04-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7466700)
Sorry, mang. Just didn't trust Fairley, Dareus, or Newton enough.

No, I don't blame you for that. Just didn't see it coming, since one of the strengths of the Bengals is their CB play.

Direckshun 03-04-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7466695)
Yay, more straw men.

There's a difference between an active discussion and a Hootification of the draft that seems to happen with these early picks almost every year.

What would an active discussion entail? Perhaps a critique of the player selected? Perhaps a requisite mention of whom the critiquer would have preferred? Perhaps comparing the draft to previous drafts?

You're right, I should have considered doing any of those things.

Direckshun 03-04-2011 02:50 PM

The Browns really need to boost the shit out of their front seven.

I think this pick is a no-brainer.

The Franchise 03-04-2011 03:03 PM

Cam Newton is the next Lebron James. :D

Chiefnj2 03-04-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7466813)
The Browns really need to boost the shit out of their front seven.

I think this pick is a no-brainer.

They also desperately need a receiver. Quinn, Dareus or Jones.

Titty Meat 03-04-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7466633)
One of the drafturbators accosting other discussants of the draft for being abrasive or aggressive. Hysterical.

It's a discussion, for shit's sakes. Set the rules so that we all golf clap after each selection, or accept that a dispute or two is going to break out in a mock draft.

This is funny. When I was discussing Peterson you basically told me to stop.

Direckshun 03-04-2011 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 7466900)
This is funny. When I was discussing Peterson you basically told me to stop.

I basically told you you were stupid.

Direckshun 03-04-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7466840)
Cam Newton is the next Lebron James. :D

He actually could be in terms of PR, assuming he ends up as a pretty good QB.

That alone should drive the Bills or Jags to get him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7466859)
They also desperately need a receiver. Quinn, Dareus or Jones.

Wouldn't shock me if they went with Jones.

Am I alone in thinking Cleveland should be in the market for a QB? I seem to be. No way Colt McCoy is anything but a flash in the pan.

Titty Meat 03-04-2011 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7466930)
I basically told you you were stupid.

What a constructive conversation and yet nearly everyone in here agreed with me that Pest made a good pick. You sir are a hypocrite.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-04-2011 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7466722)
What would an active discussion entail? Perhaps a critique of the player selected? Perhaps a requisite mention of whom the critiquer would have preferred? Perhaps comparing the draft to previous drafts?

You're right, I should have considered doing any of those things.

And perhaps that could be done across two posts, rather than twenty.

Chiefnj2 03-04-2011 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7466943)

Am I alone in thinking Cleveland should be in the market for a QB? I seem to be. No way Colt McCoy is anything but a flash in the pan.

He held his own against a brutal schedule with no offensive weapons. He'll fit the WCO that Holmgren wants to run.

The Franchise 03-04-2011 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7466999)
He held his own against a brutal schedule with no offensive weapons. He'll fit the WCO that Holmgren wants to run.

This.

McCoy is the perfect QB for Holmgren's team.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-04-2011 04:26 PM

Colt McHasselbeck.

Rams Fan 03-04-2011 04:53 PM

Shurmur will do wonders for McCoy.

Chiefnj2 03-04-2011 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7467024)
This.

McCoy is the perfect QB for Holmgren's team.

I think J. Jones would be perfect as well.

The Franchise 03-04-2011 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7467137)
I think J. Jones would be perfect as well.

Oh I agree. McCoy needs another weapon.

Direckshun 03-04-2011 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 7466950)
What a constructive conversation and yet nearly everyone in here agreed with me that Pest made a good pick. You sir are a hypocrite.

I'm not terribly concerned with how many people agree or disagree with me. This isn't a democracy.

I'm also not terribly concerned with your anal herpes.

Direckshun 03-04-2011 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7466965)
And perhaps that could be done across two posts, rather than twenty.

Quibbles. :D

Direckshun 03-04-2011 11:45 PM

I feel my pick coming. Can't wait.

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Sfeihc 03-05-2011 06:46 AM

5 picks in two days. Yikes!

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2011 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 7467832)
5 picks in two days. Yikes!

No shit.

Who's directing this ****ing trainwreck?

:p

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2011 08:26 AM

Little under 3.5 hours to go.

WTF, Boss?

BossChief 03-05-2011 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 7467832)
5 picks in two days. Yikes!

yeah that kinda caught me off guard...sorry guys for holding this up a bit.

Ill shoot the reasoning behind the pick this afternoon but I want to get my pick in so:

With the 6th pick in the 2011 NFL draft the Cleveland Browns select:

Julio Jones WR Alabama

You ****ers are lucky I left ClaybornFairley on the board!

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2011 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7467875)
yeah that kinda caught me off guard...sorry guys for holding this up a bit.

Ill shoot the reasoning behind the pick this afternoon but I want to get my pick in so:

With the 6th pick in the 2011 NFL draft the Cleveland Browns select:

Julio Jones WR Alabama

You ****ers are lucky I left ClaybornFairley on the board!

Make sure to PM the next owner.

BossChief 03-05-2011 08:50 AM

did it as soon as I made my pick, playa

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2011 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7467881)
did it as soon as I made my pick, playa

Duh, winning.

doomy3 03-05-2011 08:54 AM

I feel like the 49ers are in a weird spot. I love Cam Newton, and should probably just pick him here because I think he'll be a hell of a quarterback, but I just don't think he fits Harbaugh's scheme. So, I'll go with the best player available.

With the 7th pick, the 49ers select Marcell Dareus. This is a guy who is very versatile, and could likely man the nose or end in the 3-4. For the 49ers, it gives them one of the best defensive lines in football with Franklin on the nose and Justin Smith and Dareus on the ends.

Really wanted this pick to be Peterson or Miller, but Dareus is a nice get here.

doomy3 03-05-2011 08:55 AM

I'm on my phone, so can someone PM whoever is up next please?

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2011 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7467887)
I'm on my phone, so can someone PM whoever is up next please?

Done.

KurtCobain 03-05-2011 12:33 PM

I think the Titans should pick Ponder here.

Titty Meat 03-05-2011 01:44 PM

Titans have a few major needs defensive tackle being one of them and Fairley is still on the board. I was hoping Doomy would pick Newton so I wouldn't have to make this decision because the Titans badly need a QB. Newton has a lot of tools and even though I think the guy is an asshole......

With the 8th pick in the Chiefsplanet Mock Draft Titans Select QB Cam Newton

KurtCobain 03-05-2011 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 7468468)
Titans have a few major needs defensive tackle being one of them and Fairley is still on the board. I was hoping Doomy would pick Newton so I wouldn't have to make this decision because the Titans badly need a QB. Newton has a lot of tools and even though I think the guy is an asshole......

With the 8th pick in the Chiefsplanet Mock Draft Titans Select QB Cam Newton

Probably will happen, but bad idea. Christian Ponder is a good idea.

Titty Meat 03-05-2011 01:53 PM

I like Ponder but not at 8 not even sure he's a first round pick and I know he wouldn't be there by the time I pick again.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-05-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 7468468)
Titans have a few major needs defensive tackle being one of them and Fairley is still on the board. I was hoping Doomy would pick Newton so I wouldn't have to make this decision because the Titans badly need a QB. Newton has a lot of tools and even though I think the guy is an asshole......

With the 8th pick in the Chiefsplanet Mock Draft Titans Select QB Cam Newton

Not that it matters, but I sure figured we'd be on the same page for this pick. I don't think Cam is going to be a franchise QB. I would've taken your boy Prince had it been me picking here. Great need for TN, and awesome value. Time will tell though.

KurtCobain 03-05-2011 02:58 PM

I don't see why not Ponder at eight. It's not that bad of a reach and like you said, he won't be there next time you're up. So you take him. Newton isn't a guy you want leading your team. Ponder is.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-05-2011 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 7468709)
I don't see why not Ponder at eight. It's not that bad of a reach and like you said, he won't be there next time you're up. So you take him. Newton isn't a guy you want leading your team. Ponder is.

Because I would've drafted Jake Locker in the 2nd and listened to everyone laugh at me. :D

DeezNutz 03-05-2011 03:04 PM

Titans take the QB who draws a lot of comparisons to the one they just dumped, after he dumped on them. Irony.

Not saying it's the wrong pick, but this is probably the one team who is scared as hell of having to make that selection.

RealSNR 03-05-2011 03:14 PM

Vikings need a QB. Does it have to be between those two? Ugh.

Titty Meat 03-05-2011 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 7468652)
Not that it matters, but I sure figured we'd be on the same page for this pick. I don't think Cam is going to be a franchise QB. I would've taken your boy Prince had it been me picking here. Great need for TN, and awesome value. Time will tell though.

I thought about Prince too he was option #3. However I don't think he'd help the team win right away and like I said I felt if I didn't draft a QB now I likely wouldn't get one by the time I picked in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Titty Meat 03-05-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7468737)
Titans take the QB who draws a lot of comparisons to the one they just dumped, after he dumped on them. Irony.

Not saying it's the wrong pick, but this is probably the one team who is scared as hell of having to make that selection.

If I recall Young was somewhat lazy and suicidal. Newton is more Jim Jones than the village followers so I think he'll be ok in that aspect. The only thing that could lead to his downfall is his cockiness. I think he's a better passer than Young was and you can't go into the season with Rusty Smith as your QB. Yea it was a ballsy pick Chiefsplanet should love me for picking a QB :)

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2011 03:47 PM

CC PM'd me his pick this morning, and I just walked back in the door.

The Cowboys select:

Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska


Marco Polo has been PM'd.

KurtCobain 03-05-2011 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7468902)
CC PM'd me his pick this morning, and I just walked back in the door.

The Cowboys select:

Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska


Marco Polo has been PM'd.

Typical.

DeezNutz 03-05-2011 03:53 PM

I think the next pick is clear for Washington, and the Rat would probably JIHP if the draft fell this way.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-05-2011 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 7468821)
I thought about Prince too he was option #3. However I don't think he'd help the team win right away and like I said I felt if I didn't draft a QB now I likely wouldn't get one by the time I picked in the 2nd or 3rd round.

If you're sold on Cam being a franchise QB, this was a money pick.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-05-2011 10:53 PM

Sorry, I haven't been able to check in over the last 30 hours. Nonetheless, I'm back and good to go.

Marco Polo 03-06-2011 09:05 AM

Brian Orakpo was the only Washington player to record more than 2.5 sacks in 2010. The Redskins select North Carolina DE/OLB Robert Quinn.

doomy3 03-06-2011 11:42 AM

This has to be the slowest start to the CP mock draft since its inception, right?

OnTheWarpath15 03-06-2011 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7469991)
This has to be the slowest start to the CP mock draft since its inception, right?

I think we should blame the assclowns running it.

:p

doomy3 03-06-2011 11:47 AM

I'm not going to be on much next Saturday, so if we don't make it to #23 in the next week, I'll PM my picks to someone.

The Franchise 03-06-2011 12:33 PM

Usually the first round flies by.

RealSNR 03-06-2011 12:37 PM

Come on, Direckshun. I've got an awesome draft-winning pick to make and I can't do it until you shit your pants like you usually do

OnTheWarpath15 03-06-2011 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7470026)
Come on, Direckshun. I've got an awesome draft-winning pick to make and I can't do it until you shit your pants like you usually do

LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-06-2011 01:47 PM

This isn't surprising. People just aren't as in to the draft this year. We aren't picking nearly as high, so interest wanes. We didn't expand to 7 rounds until 2008 which was the year in which we also had a top 5 pick for the first time since the 80s. Now that we're picking in the 20's again, the entire tenor of the board is less focused on the draft. Far fewer posts in the combine thread, almost no draft debates out in the main forum.

People think we are on the verge of competing rather than rebuilding and the talk of acquiring a QB through the draft has all but been given up or deemed not necessary.

doomy3 03-06-2011 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7470105)
This isn't surprising. People just aren't as in to the draft this year. We aren't picking nearly as high, so interest wanes. We didn't expand to 7 rounds until 2008 which was the year in which we also had a top 5 pick for the first time since the 80s. Now that we're picking in the 20's again, the entire tenor of the board is less focused on the draft. Far fewer posts in the combine thread, almost no draft debates out in the main forum.

People think we are on the verge of competing rather than rebuilding and the talk of acquiring a QB through the draft has all but been given up or deemed not necessary.

There is definitely a lot of truth to this post. Part of it also probably has to do with the difficulty of projecting who will be available in the 20s. When you're drafting in the top 5 like we have been, people spend so much time on what if scenarios for those first few picks.

And certainly the QB debates created much of the draft discussion the past couple years.

Titty Meat 03-06-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7470105)
This isn't surprising. People just aren't as in to the draft this year. We aren't picking nearly as high, so interest wanes. We didn't expand to 7 rounds until 2008 which was the year in which we also had a top 5 pick for the first time since the 80s. Now that we're picking in the 20's again, the entire tenor of the board is less focused on the draft. Far fewer posts in the combine thread, almost no draft debates out in the main forum.

People think we are on the verge of competing rather than rebuilding and the talk of acquiring a QB through the draft has all but been given up or deemed not necessary.

I'm interested in the draft as always but I think the looming lockout has put a damper on things. I also think the overall talent in this draft class sucks compared to others.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-06-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 7470222)
I'm interested in the draft as always but I think the looming lockout has put a damper on things. I also think the overall talent in this draft class sucks compared to others.

2009 was a worse class than this.

If anything, a potential lockout would get you more interested in the potential football-related things that actually still will happen.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-06-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7470423)
2009 was a worse class than this.

If anything, a potential lockout would get you more interested in the potential football-related things that actually still will happen.

I agree. The 09 class was garbage. Worst ****ing year to have a top 3 pick. Well, it was after we made a certain trade anyways.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-06-2011 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 7470549)
I agree. The 09 class was garbage. Worst ****ing year to have a top 3 pick. Well, it was after we made a certain trade anyways.

No, it was still a perfectly fine year for a top 3 pick even if we weren't going to take a QB. We just picked the wrong guy at the wrong position. There are several guys who would have lived up to that pick.

Where that class really suffered was in the middle rounds. That's where you can always tell good drafts ('10, '08) from bad ones ('09, '11).


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