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Air Conditioning, Cable TV, and an Xbox: What is Poverty in the United States Today?
(https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=247301)
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Well if a person receives HUD or rents a subsidized apartment those things are required except for cable and or satellite. Cable and satellite TV being included is a way for landlords to get people to choose thier facility over others. If you don't have a kitchen how are you going to ever make any food or keep anything to eat in your home. Having a operable kitchen saves money and is healthier than eating out every meal. Of course they had adequate food they get food stamps. People on SS or disability don't pay for healthcare. The others just don't pay for the bills so sure they get adequate medical care. |
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Because most of those things are requirements before someone receiving HUD or subsidized assistance can even rent a place. |
a big pair of hairy balls that woman has.....
Gilbert Grapes' mama, as listed above just called me as soon as I walked in the door from work(in tow of 3 kids). She proceeded to introduce herself, told me that since the other guy who was there saturday unloaded their stuff and carried it upstairs, wondered if I'd just run over and carry a tv downstairs(it's one of the big heavy 42" older flatscreens).... "No, I'm busy".... "doing what"...... "my own stuff, working 22hrs the first 2 days of the week, watching my kids, making dinner, work, repairing my own home, community involvement, mowing our yards....." "well..when can you..who would come and do it" "don't know" "you're not going to tell me who could do it? Our daughter and my husband can't do it" "It's an old TV,and it's not my problem" "hrmffffffffff" Gilbert Grape's mother didn't either know, or acknowledge that I'd spent 2hrs in 100 degree heat unloading an F'ing Uhaul van truck and packing that shit upstairs. |
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I wouldn't eat it.
This past summer I've been "Switching weeks" mowing with one of the other neighbors, but I'm thinking very hard right now about being done. Charity is a good thing, but holy shit the nerve of some people. They are definitely testing every last fiber in my ability to not "go Iowanian" on them. I think the wrinkled old husband doesn't even know what he's like but deep down is getting by....maybe beaten down by that jabbathehutt, ungreatful bag of bacon grease. Sonna bitch. |
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I doubt she gets out of the chair to have the taxpayer funded food produced shit dug out of her ass by the poor, taxpayer funded CNA that is unfortunate enough to draw the short shovel at work, let alone cook.
I'm more pissed off the more I think about it....I was more shocked when she called, now I'm angry. The harder I try to not judge people and be a decent, charitable, helpful person, the harder people try to make me take a tomahawk to them. I could seriously go roll a hobo for sport right now. I'm fairly certain by looks that the offspring is "low functioning", but didn't get a good enough look while she laid on the bed, or gossiped with Mrs Grape while I was hefting boxes of books and stuffed animals and sofas and chest of drawers up steep ass, narrow stairways to the hovel where she'll masterb8 with a gold plated dildo. |
That fat would dull your tomahawk in no time.....
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I'd sharpen it on my granite hard cock due to the mental images. |
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Also people in prison have the same creature comforts minus a couple of things. |
There are lazy worthless non-workers that I have no sympathy for but to say if you have a house you rent and an xbox means you are too well off to be considered poor is absurd.
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I'm now doing maintenance work and one of my properties is income-based (translated: lazy asses that don't pay no rent). It's great listening to these people constantly bitch because we can't put brand new everything into the apartments that they're not paying for.
And even better is that I not only get to help pay for the juice and pop and potato chips and candy bars for the kids, I also get to pick up the empty juice packets and pop cans and potato chip bags and candy bar wrappers that they leave all over the grounds since their parents can't seem to find the time to teach them to pick up after themselves. And then they have the gall to bitch when shit doesn't get fixed fast enough...well gee...if I wasn't spending 2-3 hours every week picking up after your kids and cleaning around the dumpsters that your ignorant lazy asses can't seem to get your trash into, perhaps I could get to these things in a timely manner? Wait, no, I can't say that because they'd slap a fair housing lawsuit on us. On the flip side, I also take care of another property that is elderly and disabled, mostly poor ones that don't have anywhere else to go. And with a few exceptions, they are truly in need of the help and are very nice people to whom I'd do anything for. |
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I used to live in the River Market and would see the same rotation on the I35/Broadway Bridge stop light. Looked like an Italian wedding with cash being handed out by dumbasses every time the light changed. |
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You've done your good deed for far too long....your best recourse now is to stop or chuck a molotav cocktail on the front porch. |
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Hand these fuggers at the street corners a business card that reads:
GET A ****ING JOB! |
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In general, I help people because it's the right thing to do, not because I'm looking for something, but it's so easy once you become known as someone who will show up and work on a community project, volunteer, contribute and do things for people to get to the point where it's about all you do, and you don't have time for your own projects or your own family. I'm there now, and have been making a conscious effort to draw that down to reasonable......it just gets hard to say no, when you're so used to saying yes. For some reason the more you do, the more people expect. Many people sincerely appreciate it.....but it's amazing how often you end up treated like a hwy flagman for your time and effort. |
You're a good dude, Iowanian. But you have to properly vet the recipients of your kindness or you're going to grown so bitter that more deserving people will not benefit from your kindness in the future. Don't do the work and bite your tongue... just walk away. When you've evaluated that the person doesn't actually need your help, walk. You think when you need help reaching something on the top shelf that one of those tall fat broads is going to come over and put you on her shoulders? No, she's not. Just walk.
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This type of stuff makes me glad that normal people typically have no use for my services. I very seldom have a neighbor come over and say, "Hey, Rain Man, can you build me a mathematical demand model? And get the opinions of 384 people around the country for me?" |
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We're starting to wonder why Iowanian keeps going back... This won't be pretty...
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Or he's growing wacky weed in their back yard
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Hey, I only asked because you have a truck. |
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In fact, every person on any form of government assistance should be writing a thank you check to a tax paying citizen every quarter of the calendar year. Dicks. |
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I ran home at lunch for a minute, 3 missed calls, 1 message on machine. "hi, this is your neighbor, Husbandofgilbertgrape'smama, and we thought our daughters were going to be able to mow the yard and they can't, so you've been doing it a lot of times over the past few years and it's getting a little tall and we're still going to need you to do that, mow our yard. Thanks" How in the hell does one respond to that without being the biggest prick on earth? |
you had a gout attack. cant help em.
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I was thinking about telling them you had some money under the seat of your truck.]
It would be much easier to be a prick about it if he weren't 200 years old, and being ridden to his deathbed by the 3 meanest, ugliest wenches in the county. |
How about access to employment or basic medical oversight (much less procedures), you ****in' dilznick?
I would be really, really ****ing curious to know how the National ****ing Review describes "adequate medical care." Prediction: access to an ER, which only treats immediately life-threatening issues and doesn't really cut it when you need, I dunno, CHEMOTHERAPY or a LUNG TRANSPLANT any other procedure that requires up-front payment. but oh man, CELL PHONES. COLOR TVs. A REFRIGERATOR. In a consumer-based society that's been awash in those things for decades. What a glorious life those not-really-so-poor folks like my mother (at least she has her healt--oh) lead. |
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Honestly, I think you just say no. "I've been glad to help you out, but in the long term you need to figure out how to get this stuff done on your own." |
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I just adore the logic that says the costs of minor luxuries like TVs or phones or video game systems compare in any way to the constant sucking hole that is food and housing and medical care, not to mention how tiny a percentage of a poor person's budget buying an Xbox would be compared to the insane expenses people in the middle class rack up when buying a home or going on a trip or going out to eat nightly or, in a lot of cases, commuting to work.
But it's easier to blame those lazy, good-for-nothing poors for your own ever-increasing problems as the world turns more and more to shit, I guess, instead of acknowledging the system is slanted against and squeezing the poors and yourself and, if you're reading ChiefsPlanet, most likely everyone else you know. Keep on truckin'. |
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I know most of it is TIC, but I wouldn't want to trade a job, education and 40 hours a week for staying at home watching The Price is Right every day and living off the government, even if I do get creature comforts like an X-Box. It's still not living and I agree, it is a tough hole to climb out of, especially when many of them were raised to think that is the normal way of living. It as cut and dry as "GIT A JOB", but the system certainly has room for improvement. |
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And even then it's this hilariously skewed view that ignores our crumbling infrastructure and a completely gutted safety net that leaves huge swaths of this country disconnected and helpless with zero chance to advance or even have the hope of holding a job anymore. Economic mobility in America is worse than any other "developed" nation except the UK, which -- hello, underclass being ignored and mistreated for a long time. How's that working out? Corporations are happy to starve us as other countries pick up the purchasing slack. It's cheaper for them, really. But that's REALLY DEPRESSING, and you might be labeled a socialist loon for admitting it, so? **** those poors and their GRIPIN'. You don't see me complaining! |
Someone is taking too many estrogen pills.
Get back to me with the survival rates in other countries....and why so many people from nations with free healthcare, come here for treatment. Cancer is a muther****er and it kills rich and poor, tall and short, young and old. |
My mom's dying of cancer and is unable to afford treatment which would be covered for anyone, regardless of ability to pay, in any other developed nation and a number of developing ones. Sorry if your (and others') scorn and disregard for the poor in the United States of America, by people whose interests align very closely with the poor yet have been fooled into believing the myth that they're bootstrappin' frontier heroes, has made me a mite hysterical.
This is a place where medical bankruptcies and people choosing to die in lieu of saddling their families with debt are an everyday thing, but nothing is seriously amiss here? Being poor is easy? **** you. |
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You should probably just tell them the absolute truth of why you don't want to do it anymore. |
I'm sorry your mother ill.
That said, I put my money and my time where my mouth is when it comes to helping poor people and have for decades, so pardon me if I disregard your misdirected jibjab. |
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Somebody needs to seek an alternate method of grief counseling.
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and cancer kills everybody, yes, but you are a ****ing muleheaded dick either way for implying the rich are on even ground with the poor. |
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Of course the rich aren't on even ground with the poor. That's why they are classified as RICH and POOR. |
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This is your easy out. Use that tone or a #umber in a word again directed at me and I'll make a lamp shade out of your hide. |
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:sigh: Peering toward DC.
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And I'm still trying to figure out what in the hell this has to do with the topic. |
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2 Nights ago my wife and I are sitting together... kids in bed... Watching True grit (the new one) for the first time. Its about 11pm and my doorbell rings - I walk to the door that my nice big scary looking black dog is already barking at... and I see who it is... and its this African American man in his 40's i would guess asking to use my phone to call 911 for his wife - he is my next door neighbor and this is the first time I have met him, now grant you I just moved to the Chicago area less than 30 days ago I felt compelled to come outside and let him use my phone - He did just like he said called 911 and the EMTs took her away He then told me his 4 yr old grand daughter was with him and asked if I could give them a ride to the Hospital.. So i did... He asked I had change for a 50 and I didnt take his money even thought I was low on gas... I saw him touch my wifes rosary in the car and I saw him praying / having a connection with it so I said **** it and told him he could have it. Instead of dropping him off he asks me to come in and he thinks its going to be real quick and I know its not but I come in say hi to his wife in the ER room and have a cup of coffee with him - by that time i tell him I gotta go and He finally realized it was not going to be a fast thing. So I drive home low on Gas. FF to yesterday about 7:30pm - his wife is at the door saying thank you and asking for one last favor - to drive them "about 15min away" to go get a car so they can stop asking for help. That sounds awesome to me. but only it didn't go quite so simple We went to the 'hood of Chicago - not the REAL bad hood of Chicago, I've been there before too (thats a story for another time) - but the part that any white kid from JoCo would roll up their windows lock their doors and avoid eye contact. any way i digress we bounce from house to house - street corner to street corner - looking for his cousin - we find his uncle and they go all around and guess what - she left and there aint no car. I tell them we really need some gas - cuz ya know the $6 you put in just aint cutting it no more. He puts $2 more in and we head home.. he said he has $20 that he can give me once we get back to the house.. UGH!!! Fine!! i'm thinking... I dont get home until 10/10:30 that night and I almost ran out of gas, I wait for him to come back out and he doesn't... Lesson learned.. really... my wife was laughing at me cuz i was taken for the proverbial ride... TODAY!!!! Wife is home alone with the kids and guess what - she hears a knock on the door... She doesn't answer it - I love her - shes so much smarter than me LOL Nothing else from him this evening anyway.. I just had to vent and it seemed to go along with the other stories here. Now back to whatever the hell else was in this trehad |
QUOTE=Iowanian;7756827]I've said for years that in the United States, being poor is "too easy".
Why go work in the heat like an idiot when you can stay home in the ac, play xbox in your govt funded home eating your taxpayer funded doritos...[/QUOT If you truly believe that then go try it for just 6 months and then come back and report. Being poor is not easy it is hard as hell. Just be glad poor peole find some other mechanism beside murdering you and I. Never make a comment like that until you have walked in a poor persons shoes. |
Yeah, we should all thank the poor people for not murdering those of us who support them.
THANKS POOR PEOPLE!!! |
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Look there are a number of people that struggle no matter how hard they try and THOSE folks deserve our extra assistance. However for the ones who don't even try and who complain about what they are 'entitled' to **** them. The only the universe ever entitles anyone is death. You can spend your life blaming someone else for your problems or you can get off your ass and fix the problem yourself. |
I grew up broke as shit, in the poorest county in my state. I've gone to school with duct tape holding the soles on my shoes and my glasses taped together. I was working for other people at 8-9 years old, working on the farm, working on other farms when I was 12, and started traveling in summers throwing iron and tires for an auto salvage company and have paid taxes every year since I was 14. My dad had as many as 3 jobs outside of our farm. I worked construction and odd jobs that would make most others puke to get through college and spent the first year after sleeping on a blow up mattress.
Want to know why I'm not poor now? I guarantee you I could start today in a new city, with $500 and no job, and by the end of the week have work. By the end of the year, I won't be poor. It's because I'm not a lazy douche-bag with twisted priorities. My area has plenty of people who are perfectly happy to sponge off of working Americans. I'll never have respect for the lazy. I've been in the shoes of the poor, and I know what I had to do to wear the ones I have now, which are much more comfortable. I've earned the right to have the opinion I do. I don't give a rats ass if you think so and I feel perfectly informed to hold the opinions I have. Quote:
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Heh why flash mob when you can flash rob!
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Ironically enough, the same people who were unable to assist me unloading a single box from their uhaul....have hauled a dump truck load of junk from their house to the curb each of the last 3 weeks, including one today....and one of the helpless bullfrog twins is manning a hedge trimmer as I type. Also interesting of note, I've yet to get a wave, nod or look in the eye since I stopped mowing their yard.(another sucker is taking care of that now. |
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Tough Love works! |
Teach a man to fish......
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So, I haven't heard from the above mentioned people since the above incident. Since then, the daughter has sat on a chair in the yard behind the old man, who must pray nightly for a quick death in his sleep, doing everything short of beating him with a cane as he works. They've hauled loads and loads of crap out, cut the bushes and briars out and in general having the place looking better than I'd guess it has in years. So, the end of last week, I have a message on the answering machine(always introducing themselves by name, where they live and location to my home, because I'd never remember that by now).....furnace is being repaired and not working and could I bring them a heater so they won't get cold. My first instinct is "seriously?" and then the voice on my shoulder says You can't let that old shit freeze. I've got an older electric heater I'm not using, so I take it over and say "I don't need it any longer, just keep it and use it in emergencies"....and am thanked kindly. The next night, I get home and brideowanian is laughing in the kitchen, encouraging me to join her. She's not laughing because it's funny, she's laughing at my pending reaction to the 2 messages on the answering machine. In short "this is your neighbor, gilbert grape's mama, wife of Mr praysfordeath, across the street. I used your heater last night and it was smelling the house up and made me so sick and I almost puked and it stunk and ......................................................................................2 minutes...................more words...and I know you said it was a gift but we don't want it and don't want to pay for getting rid of it so it's on the porch and you need to come and get it. click. Message 2. Hi, this is gilbert grape's mama and I called an hour ago and you still haven't come to get your heater....I tried to use it but it smoked and stunk up the house and made me so sick...I was coughing and can't breath and almost barfed and .......4 minute rant.....more words and words......and you need to come and get it............silence.....and we thank you and appreciate you tried to help.....but it made me so sick and I'm feeling terrible........but thanks.....but it made me sick, come and get it. click. I walked over and got it, plugged it in the garage to see.....the dust was burning off of the coils. That's it. I'll learn someday. I don't know how mr Praysfordeath will survive the winter locked up with that herd of fat, mean, nagging hens without impaling himself on a butter knife. I feel sorry for the old sonnabitch, I don't think he's ungreatful, I think he's just beaten to the ground by that mean old sow. |
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