The thing that makes it really invalid is that we're only 2 games in. I'm sure by the midway point, Campbell will slip, and Rivers and Vick will go up. Heck Rivers should jump up quite a bit after tomorrow's game. :deevee:

I personally apologize to Mr. Campbell, his heirs and kin.

Do not believe the stats.. Those same stats had Cassel being a pro bowler last year..

THIS

Campbell is the worst by far. - Deberg_1990

Jason Campbell and it's not even close. - MoreLemonPledge

Some of you dumbasses actually think Cassel is worse than Campbell???? Jesus..... - Sofa King

Orton is a little better than Cassel. Campbell sucks. - Icarus

Campbell is the only option. - Sam Hall

Matt Cassel sucks.

I was right about something on the internet!

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I still say he is hurt worse then they on....

Cassel is going to come on strong midway through the season and have another excellent Pro Bowl season.

I still stand by the fact that Campbell sucks.

He is. How many Pro Bowls has Campbell been to?

Not as many as Cassel

How many 3500+ yards and 20+ TD seasons does he have?

Not as many as Orton.

Study carefully these ESPN Season QB Ratings. You'll see the same thing on NFL.com & FoxSports. After contemplating the relative positions of the AFCW QBs, then ask yourself if Campbell is the worst:

Season QB Ratings 2011
#10__ Jason Campbell
#14__ Philip Rivers
#18__ Kyle Orton
#31__ Matt Cassel

I'd like to change my vote.

Does it really matter?

Kill Yourself

Keep on sucking the Al Davis cock fallfart

I don't believe that there is any way that anyone can create a standard measure to truly rate a QB.

There's no way hell that Campbell is a better QB than Rivers.

The fact is, the only QB in this division that is worth a damn is Rivers.

The rest is just black hole suckage.

Everybody agrees - so much so that Rivers wasn't even listed as a possibility. The poll in this thread is "Who is the worst AFCW QB?"

4% said Orton
28% said Cassel
67% said Campbell

It appears that the majority who picked Campbell as the worst AFCW QB were wrong....

Split hairs, much?

Hey - I'm not the only one saying you guys were wrong in the assessment that Campbell is the worst QB in the west...

ESPN Bill Williamson: Campbell takes over division QBR lead

Jason Campbell, Oakland... Season NFL ranking: 9
Comment: If Campbell can keep this up, the Raiders are going to win a lot of games.

Philip Rivers, San Diego... Season NFL ranking: 11
Comment: Rivers is good as always, but he has some key mistakes.

Kyle Orton, Denver
Comment: Orton has to improve if the Broncos are going to win consistently.

Matt Cassel, Kansas City
Comment: A lot is going wrong in Kansas City and Cassel isn’t helping matters.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...ision-qbr-lead

Agree with BW. He'll be there today.

Like Milkman said, any measure that grades out Campbell higher than Rivers is flawed and pretty much useless.

Don't start sucking each other's dicks just yet.

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After watching the Buffalo game, the Faid are well on thier way to a 2-8 record outside the division yet again.

That's kind of what I was thinking.


Just like we are overeacting about how bad we are, they are overeacting about how good they are.

Experts picks 'em even at 12-12

ESPN: 5-3 Raiders over Jets
NFL.com: 3-1 Jets over Raiders
CBS: 4-1 Raiders over Jets
USA Today: 6-2 Jets over Raiders

Smoke em if you got em. The Raiders smell like Bill Callahan and Al Davis depends.

They should reset the poll and let us vote again. I mean, I voted for Cassel the first time through and I will again, but I think it would be Cassel pretty overwhelmingly if everyone voted again.

NFL.com Season QB Rating through Week 3:

#10 -Jason Campbell
#23 - Phillip Rivers
#25 - Kyle Orton
#31 - Matt Cassel

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta..._PASSER_RATING

Yep

:LOL:

Cassel is just best at sucking!

Knowmo never lets me down! LMAO

NFL.com ranks the Raider O-line at #2. You are wrong about the Raider O-line. Campbell's two "sacks" were when he tripped on McFadden's foot & fell and also when he took too long on a kneeldown. His lone INT was a hail mary. Campbell finally has time to throw the ball & enjoys the #10 QB rating. Veldeer & Wiznewski are playing very well.

NFL Stats: by Team Category

You were wrong about the Raiders getting worse. You were wrong about the Chiefs getting "a LOT better." Its OK - I've been wrong before, too. At least, I think I have.....

Give this man a cookie.

You kids and your new math. No wonder I can't help my grandkids with homework.

ESPN Insider sez Campbell is NOT the worst AFCW QB:

It is clear this team is not the same old Raiders. In fact, it looks like a bona fide playoff contender. The obvious place to start is to note the play of Darren McFadden. He has always been a dominant player (he was every bit as good as Jamaal Charles on a per-game basis the past three years) but his early MVP-like start is finally getting him the acclaim he deserves as one of the NFL's best running backs. But space may be opening for McFadden because of the progress quarterback Jason Campbell has made in his second year in coach Hue Jackson's system. Campbell ranks in the top 10 in the league in both Total QBR and in passer rating. Campbell has also made zero bad decisions (defined as when a quarterback makes a mistake with the ball that leads either to a turnover or a near turnover (such as a dropped interception or fumble recovered by the offense) this season, so it isn't as if his numbers are the result of luck.

He's not just throwing a bunch of safe passes, either -- 31 percent of his throws have been of the vertical variety (vertical being defined as aerials thrown 11 or more yards downfield). That Campbell is gaining 11.8 yards per attempt (YPA) on those vertical throws is impressive enough (only five quarterbacks last year finished the season with a vertical YPA that high), but what makes it even more notable is that it has been largely achieved without the services of Louis Murphy, Jacoby Ford and Kevin Boss. All three have missed significant time because of injury and yet Campbell and the offense have continued to thrive.

One reason Campbell is having success on downfield passes is the superb job the Raiders' blocking wall has done in protecting him. Oakland has allowed only two sacks this season (a total that is tied for the lowest in the NFL) and one of those occurred on a fluke play when McFadden tripped Campbell while trying to make a block. That Oakland has achieved this total while having a second-year player (Jared Veldheer) at left tackle and a rookie (Stefen Wisniewski) at left guard speaks volumes for how well this group has been coached.

For the 2011 Raiders, that formula could mean as many as 10 wins and a spot in the playoffs.

Yeah, I'd change my vote.

Orton only got 8 votes

campbell was pretty productive