FACTS about Tamba Hali

According to advanced stat sites such as PFF, if you add pressures and sacks together...Hali has been the best pass rusher in the league the last 2 or 3 years. This while getting held on EVERY SINGLE PLAY that he doesn't get a pressure or sack

He used to get beat in the run game, but no longer. The guy is very much improved as a run stuffer.

He is the player that sets the tone for the defense. No question.

It's awesome when I can contend that Brandon Flowers is the fourth best player on our defense.

Willis, Suggs, Ware, Williams , Suh.
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So believing that he's great but not top 5 is Tamba hate?
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No it isn't hate, it's just incorrect.

Dude willis has 15 CAREER sacks, career

Yeah I'm not one to neg rep anyone here, but god damn I want to for him spewing that stupid shit.

If I remember rightly, and PFF pointed out that Matthews run or pass defense, can't remember which, leaves a lot to be desired.

Hali is probably going to retire as 2nd all time in team history for fumbles, behind you-know-who.

Four more solid years and he'll be 2nd behind DT in sacks, too. He's 40 sacks behind Neil Smith.

http://i54.tinypic.com/96ao9u.jpg

I don't really give a shit about any other aspects of his game. He's a pass rusher lol. He's not so bad that he's a liability in run coverage, so who cares.

Hali was a below average run defender (-4.0) last year, but he did have 32 stops, which is pretty good.

This year he's holding at +1.1, which is good.

His pressures are down this year, but his pass rush grade is still 2nd in the league behind Ware.

U Mecca??

Hali is playing at an All-Pro level.

Does that include yesterday's game? Because I could have sworn he had a zillion pressures in that game.

Yes.

I don't see how he is overrated. He is generally considered to be a top 5 pass rusher by most pro analysts. I'd like to see what he can do in the playoffs in really really big games.

Hali sure is a great player but he is no Demarcus Ware. Did you guys ever see that missed tackle on Fred Jackson?? It was brutal brutal... that was juste one play but I cannot imagine guys like Ware and Harrison EVER looking that bad on a running play.

Not only did Hali have a grade 10 points higher than Ware last year, he played more snaps, had more sacks, fewer penalties, more pressures and more QB hits.

And he played in a front 7 that was far less talented.

I'm not the one to insult like so many posters on this forum but your post is a terrible FAIL. First, who cares about grades? More snaps??? Are you serious, completely irrelevant as both players played full time for 16 games.

Hali had more sacks?? There's a reason I said your post is a terrible fail.

Fewer penalties for a single year is a marginal argument.

Anyways, I get it you guys love Hali and think he is the best. I also love Hali, our defense would be much worse without him, but you clearly are biased if you think Hali is better than a player who is arguably the top defensive player in the NFL. Not saying he is, but he's in the same boat as guys like Revis, Willis, Polamalu, Reed, Ngata...

17 vs 15 according to PFF.

Ware is probably a better player but Hali is in his league.

LOL... you wish you never said that :)

Why not? Those are the facts.

For you to sit there and say "Hali is no Demarcus Ware" is a slap in the face when the guy was more productive as a pass rusher by every measurable.

He doesn't have Ware's speed so he isn't as "flashy". He gets the job done and that's all that matters. He just isn't all that versatile he basically should never drop in coverage and Houston really shouldn't either and when Crennel wants to play this 3-4 cover 2 that's a bit hamstringing.

Out of nowhere.

Yea back for a bit, did you miss me?

I dont know you, but I missed you

He got one sack less than Ware and would have gotten more if he wasn't blatantly held on every play. Ware gets held too, but not as much as Hali. I live in Tulsa. They show every Dallas game down here so unfortunately I've watched quite a few of them. So to say he is no Demarcus Ware is wrong. He's at least in the same class as Ware. Obviously I was exaggerating when I said it "wasn't even close" that Hali was the best.

He did manage to get a couple OWI's.

Echo everything you said. Tamba reminds me a lot of DT.

If there was a redraft, I dont think Hali would be any higher than the 3rd OLB drafted behind Ware and Matthews.

What in the blue **** am I reading right now?

Read This then Re-Read it again jesus:banghead:

Brandon Flowers has had a pretty shitty year...

DJ's INT statline should literally be like 20+ if he didnt have brick hands

I'm sorry if you are too dumb to understand my opinion. You might disagree with my opinion but if you can't understand or think those 3 sentences do not make sense... yeah you're probably retarted.

I meant to say he is one of the good OLBs in the league but not top 5... do I need to write it in ten different ways for you to understand??

You are an idiot.

Last season NO ONE had more pressures than Hali in the entire NFL. Not just outside linebackers, but defensive ends, too.

He had PFF's highest grade for any defender at any position. The closest guys were Trent Cole and Charles Johnson, who are elite pass rushers in their own right.

The thing about Hali is that he doesn't have that alpha 2 sack artist to help him out getting to the QB. DT had Neil Smith for his most productive years devastating opposing QB's in the backfield. Hali has no one, which makes his contributions even more impressive. Would love if Allen were still around, Hali would probably be a 20+ sack guy, but our dipsh*t front office is too amazing to allow for that kind of awesome.

I agree he would def. benefit from having another threat like DT had, but if Allen never left, I seriously wonder if Hali would have turned out the same... Not for lack on his part, but he may not have been given the same opportunities if the coaches initially felt they had no one else to rely on, not because I think any of them had a clue on how successful he would pan out after a couple position changes. All the credit goes to Hali for living up to his draft profile as a nonstop motor 100% effort every down player- which often is cliche or code for lacks elite physical skills but trys really hard! See: Rudy. Tamba may not be as flashy but I never have questioned his commitment & work ethic. He never complained even when he was being shifted around and around and did whatever was asked to the betterment of the team. Luckily he has taken off and he deserves it. The more I reflect on it all, the more I think he may be one of my favorite Chiefs throughout the years. Glad the club stepped up and rewarded him with a new deal & didn't let it get any further in creating bad blood between him & the front office...

Thanks Mecca, that all but ensure he now makes the pro-bowl.

Now talk smack on Car, DJ, Houston, and Dorsey and then tell us all how great Cassel is going to be.

TIA.

Pretty talented for a caveman.

Buckweath is on his way to being one of the most cluesless sumbitches on this site. Tough honor to obtain, but he's sure on the right track.

:hmmm: I think I summoned him with post 93. That or he really is Buckweath.

Flowers was off to a rocky start, but he was lock down against the Vikes. I don't think anyone even caught a ball on him.

Wow OK because I consider Hali the between the 5th to 7th best OLB in the NFL I'm clueless...

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post...fl-linebackers


And I'm just laughing at all of your insults. Generally, people who feel the need to insult others who have a different opinion are not particularly the most brilliant.

Lamarr Woodley being ranked ahead of Tamba makes that list pretty ****ing stupid.

You didn't watch Sunday didja?

That would be TheGayrdian.
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So shitty that he shut down Vincent Jackson and allowed 0 catches against Minnesota, sigh, we should have paid the other Brandon.

He's not doing all that bad, considering that the coaching staff took away his ACLs in fear that he would tear one.

FAX

ROFL Rep Mr. FAX!! :thumb:

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If allen were still around dipshit crennel would probably be dropping samba into coverage...

Everything you post is fist ****ed. Maybe because that's happened to you so much?

Your eye test? ROFL

Holy shit.....the Colts are actually favorited to win the game?

If Minnesota came into Arrowhead as 2.5 point favorites...we should be headed to Indy as 2.5 point favorites.

i agree.