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O.city 10-09-2011 03:49 PM

There is no way Haley is gone after this season. He will last atleast until next year.

Rausch 10-09-2011 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 7981017)
There is no way Haley is gone after this season. He will last atleast until next year.

Yeah, that's what I said.







:spock:

O.city 10-09-2011 03:55 PM

I meant atleast until during next season.

Psyko Tek 10-09-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7979122)
Todd Haley will be fired within a month. Possibly before our next game.

are you really this stupid
or you just doing this for attention?

doubt you are this stupid from your gif work
but jebus,dude
get a life
or at least post more on the mane or a raiders board

Mr. Laz 10-09-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 7980732)
CoMo vs GoChiefs
the record must be close

:clap: :) ROFL LMAO

Mr. Laz 10-09-2011 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 7981017)
There is no way Haley is gone after this season. He will last atleast until next year.

He will if the team is the 2nd half Chiefs of today and not the 1st half.


Game of two teams ... i dunno why. :shrug:

O.city 10-09-2011 04:09 PM

If the 2nd half chiefs show up for the rest of the year, we might win 7 or 8 games. First half we might not score another td.

chasedude 10-09-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065 (Post 7981003)
Can we ban him for BS he thinks will get post?

With his reputation for disinformation? Lifetime Ban!

Reerun_KC 10-09-2011 06:07 PM

Thread is Mis-leading. He should be banned.

Rausch 10-09-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chasedude (Post 7981361)
With his reputation for disinformation? Lifetime Ban!

His dumbassery deserves it.

But a HC prediction?...

Hammock Parties 10-09-2011 06:24 PM

I stand by what I said.

Within a month.

Come at me, hos.

007 10-09-2011 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7981880)
I stand by what I said.

Within a month.

Come at me, hos.

I would be thrilled.

Marcellus 10-09-2011 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7981880)
I stand by what I said.

Within a month.

Come at me, hos.

Well that seals it. Good for the year at least.

BigMeatballDave 10-09-2011 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7981880)
I stand by what I said.

Within a month.

Come at me, hos.

Not happening.

Well, I suppose if the Chiefs are routed in Oakland and embarrassed on Monday night, then its a slight possibility.

O.city 10-09-2011 06:28 PM

GoChiefs, what would you do if this team went on to win 8 or 9 games and Haley wins coach of the year? Won't happen but if it did would you jump back on ship?

Hammock Parties 10-09-2011 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 7981898)
GoChiefs, what would you do if this team went on to win 8 or 9 games and Haley wins coach of the year? Won't happen but if it did would you jump back on ship?

No. This team is never winning a championship with beavis and butthead coaching and quarterbacking.

BigMeatballDave 10-09-2011 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7981889)
I would be thrilled.

yeah, he did a horrible job coaching the team to a comeback... :rolleyes:

Lets go back to a boring coach like Herm.

BigMeatballDave 10-09-2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7981902)
No. This team is never winning a championship with beavis and butthead coaching and quarterbacking.

You fail at trying to be a Draftabulator/Four Horseman

Marcellus 10-09-2011 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7981902)
No. This team is never winning a championship with beavis and butthead coaching and quarterbacking.

I agree, the QB sucks.

Reerun_KC 10-09-2011 06:34 PM

Post like this happen when you beat off to Whitlock columns everyday.

whoman69 10-09-2011 07:50 PM

The biggest downside to this team is the QB who can at times play well enough for the team to beat lesser teams. I don't see Check Down ever able to win a playoff game. Despite playing better he just doesn't have the physical tools or the skills of a top QB. I think everyone can see that, hopefully even the front office now. I think its also pretty clear that Haley has gotten several players to play up to their abilities whereas Herm never did.

Rausch 10-09-2011 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7981902)
No. This team is never winning a championship with beavis and butthead coaching and quarterbacking.

Do you really have an opinion of your own?...

O.city 10-09-2011 07:54 PM

I'd like to see Pioli hand Todd a franchise qb and see what he could do with all these weapons next year. And don't even have an OC. If Haley wants to do it just ****ing do it. Lots of head coaches are the OC. There is no point to all this bull.

chief52 10-09-2011 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7981012)
He's gone this offseason...

Well, I sure do not think so. They are going to "hold the course". Haley will be here until at least the end of the 2012 season. Just the way the Chiefs roll IMO.

I actually hope he gets at least another season. Give him a fair shot.

Extra Point 10-09-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 7982218)
I'd like to see Pioli hand Todd a franchise qb and see what he could do with all these weapons next year. And don't even have an OC. If Haley wants to do it just ****ing do it. Lots of head coaches are the OC. There is no point to all this bull.

Nothing is "handed" to the coach. This is a business-first, ideology-further-down-the-road affair. Did the controller take a pay cut, this year, too? Borrowing from Star Trek: "I ...kind of ...doubt it."

Rausch 10-09-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chief52 (Post 7982239)
I actually hope he gets at least another season. Give him a fair shot.

Herm got a fair shot and so did Haley.

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chic...io/WellBye.jpg

threebag 10-09-2011 08:06 PM

I really like the Moxie Haley displays. I would rather see Piolli go and take Cassel with him.

BigMeatballDave 10-09-2011 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7982247)
Herm got a fair shot and so did Haley.

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chic...io/WellBye.jpg

Stupid. Herm went from 9-7 to 4-12 to 2-14.

Haley was 10-6 last season and now losing 3 key players. Firing him after this is not giving him a fair shot.

007 10-09-2011 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 7981903)
yeah, he did a horrible job coaching the team to a comeback... :rolleyes:

Lets go back to a boring coach like Herm.

Sorry but I never wanted him here and I still don't.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-09-2011 08:24 PM

Pioli has a decision to make. He's either gotta extend Haley or FAs (and his own players) won't play here next year. No one is gonna come in and play for a lame duck head coach. Pioli has to decide if he wants Haley around longer and if he sees Haley as the answer at coach for our Chiefs for now and the future, or if there's someone else he'd rather give the job to. I would think and hope he's evalutating this as we speak. It's a big decision.

jd1020 10-09-2011 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7982323)
Pioli has a decision to make. He's either gotta extend Haley or FAs (and his own players) won't play here next year. No one is gonna come in and play for a lame duck head coach. Pioli has to decide if he wants Haley around longer and if he sees Haley as the answer at coach for our Chiefs for now and the future, or if there's someone else he'd rather give the job to. I would think and hope he's evalutating this as we speak. It's a big decision.

Is that why the Chiefs have locked up nearly every one of the key players on this team? To say people don't want to play for Haley is stupid.

Dave Lane 10-09-2011 08:41 PM

He's definitely been the nom nom boy of late...

Dave Lane 10-09-2011 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 7982260)
I really like the Moxie Haley displays. I would rather see Piolli go and take Cassel with him.

THIS

in caps even

Chiefs Pantalones 10-09-2011 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7982341)
Is that why the Chiefs have locked up nearly every one of the key players on this team? To say people don't want to play for Haley is stupid.

He's locked them all up because that's part of his job. That's to keep the core players of this franchise, no matter who's head coach. That's not saying Haley doesn't have a say but the ones that Pioli has been extending or re-signing have been no-brainers.

Marcellus 10-09-2011 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7982318)
Sorry but I never wanted him here and I still don't.

At least we know you dont have an agenda.

Marcellus 10-09-2011 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7982394)
He's locked them all up because that's part of his job. That's to keep the core players of this franchise, no matter who's head coach. That's not saying Haley doesn't have a say but the ones that Pioli has been extending or re-signing have been no-brainers.

So you don't think who they are playing for has an impact on their decision?

Not to mention nobody broke the bank to stay.

Keep your head in the sand.

Reerun_KC 10-09-2011 08:49 PM

Since I became a fan in 87. Haley is by far the best coac Lu with crypa vermiel in second place. The other three can burn in a bucketful of flaming aids.

Reerun_KC 10-09-2011 08:49 PM

Since I became a fan in 87. Haley is by far the best coach with crypa vermiel in second place. The other three can burn in a bucketful of flaming aids.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-09-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7982405)
So you don't think who they are playing for has an impact on their decision?

Nope. Money talks. This isn't 1960. Players want da dough lol. They'll play for Charlie Brown if you pay them. You don't know and I don't know what their demands were.

Dave Lane 10-09-2011 08:57 PM

I'll call it. I think Haley is gonna be a hell of a head coach. I hope it's here.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-09-2011 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7982455)
I'll call it. I think Haley is gonna be a hell of a head coach. I hope it's here.

I do too actually. Hopefully Pioli agrees.

BigMeatballDave 10-09-2011 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7982318)
Sorry but I never wanted him here and I still don't.

Who did you want them to hire?

Smed1065 10-09-2011 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7979122)
Todd Haley will be fired within a month. Possibly before our next game.

I am calling it and you are a whore, Let me be clear an attention whore. You suck more than JW and do not realize it. OK you do realize it but what do you have to lose? He gets attention with no knowledge as well.

007 10-09-2011 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 7982926)
Who did you want them to hire?

Does it matter? I just didn't want Haley. I think the guy was a fine OC at Arizona with Warner at the helm but I didn't see head coach in him at all. Look at how many ****ing OCs he has gone through here at KC. The guy has to find somebody he can trust but he can't because none of them are him.

ChiefAshhole20 10-09-2011 11:30 PM

Hey, if continuing to only beat the teams that were worse than us allowed Haley to keep his job last year, why wouldn't he keep it this year? Add that with the injuries KC has been hit with, I believe that should equal at least another year for Pioli to see what he's capable of.

aturnis 10-09-2011 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7982973)
Does it matter? I just didn't want Haley. I think the guy was a fine OC at Arizona with Warner at the helm but I didn't see head coach in him at all. Look at how many ****ing OCs he has gone through here at KC. The guy has to find somebody he can trust but he can't because none of them are him.

What?! He got rid of Chan b/c the two of them had different visions for what the direction of the offense should be. Haley decided keeping him on, would only set the eventual direction of the offense back a year, so he installed the new offense two weeks before the start of his first season, so as to not lose any time.

Next, Pioli hired Weis and forced him on Haley. Haley wanted no part in Weis, it's been documented. Haley was VERY displeased with the offensive playcalling in the playoff game, and possibly wanted to take playcalling away from him at the half, but didn't. The two of them never meshed, and when the season came to an end, Weis found an easy out, and went to coach with his son.

Bill Muir is the only OC Haley has had any part in, unless you count Haley himself. Hell, he may have just given Muir the job to give himself a scapegoat and buy himself another year, who knows. If this team gets a QB though, I'd expect to see either Haley or Zorn calling plays next year.

aturnis 10-09-2011 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7982973)
Does it matter? I just didn't want Haley. I think the guy was a fine OC at Arizona with Warner at the helm but I didn't see head coach in him at all. Look at how many ****ing OCs he has gone through here at KC. The guy has to find somebody he can trust but he can't because none of them are him.

Was in McDaniels? Did you want Josh McDaniels? You can tell us....

BigMeatballDave 10-09-2011 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 7983020)
Was in McDaniels? Did you want Josh McDaniels? You can tell us....

Heh, no one would ever admit to that.

crazycoffey 10-10-2011 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 7983040)
Heh, no one could ever admit to that.

fyp

threebag 10-10-2011 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC (Post 7982418)
Since I became a fan in 87. Haley is by far the best coach with crypa vermiel in second place. The other three can burn in a bucketful of flaming aids.

R

Nightfyre 10-10-2011 06:29 PM

So wait, has haley been fired yet?

SAUTO 10-10-2011 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7982455)
I'll call it. I think Haley is gonna be a hell of a head coach. I hope it's here.

I agree
Posted via Mobile Device

Nightfyre 10-10-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7984648)
I agree
Posted via Mobile Device

Motion seconded and carried.

kysirsoze 10-10-2011 07:08 PM

2 best players out for the year, mediocre QB hand picked by the GM, short offseason, months removed from a division championship... 2-3

:facepalm:

BossChief 10-10-2011 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 7984555)
So wait, has haley been fired yet?

yup

Reerun_KC 10-10-2011 07:37 PM

More typical GoFraud crap....

His motto is "Licking the Taint of Whitlock."

Nightfyre 10-10-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7984755)
yup

So... what happens if the colts get Haley?

mdchiefsfan 10-10-2011 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 7983017)
What?! He got rid of Chan b/c the two of them had different visions for what the direction of the offense should be. Haley decided keeping him on, would only set the eventual direction of the offense back a year, so he installed the new offense two weeks before the start of his first season, so as to not lose any time.

Next, Pioli hired Weis and forced him on Haley. Haley wanted no part in Weis, it's been documented. Haley was VERY displeased with the offensive playcalling in the playoff game, and possibly wanted to take playcalling away from him at the half, but didn't. The two of them never meshed, and when the season came to an end, Weis found an easy out, and went to coach with his son.

Bill Muir is the only OC Haley has had any part in, unless you count Haley himself. Hell, he may have just given Muir the job to give himself a scapegoat and buy himself another year, who knows. If this team gets a QB though, I'd expect to see either Haley or Zorn calling plays next year.

The feeling seems mutual

http://www.cmstudiosmusic.com/SeniorB.jpg

Messier 10-10-2011 08:01 PM

So many grass is greener fans.

Everyone calling for Pioli's head are just buying into what has been a media driven campaign since he made an enemy of media favorite Waters, and shut out the media that was use to being somewhat buddy buddy with Peterson. Petro, Whitlock, Wright, and others have been anti Pioli from near the start. The Jackson pick was awful, in fact that whole draft sucked, but it was his first, without his own personnel people. The last two drafts have been very good. Maybe lots of people dispute this, but I looked back at the draft threads, and universally the last two drafts were loved at the time.

Hammock Parties 10-10-2011 08:03 PM

No one cares about the media's perception of Pioli.

It has more to do with his performance in acquiring personnel.

FAX 10-10-2011 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 7984932)
So many grass is greener fans.

Everyone calling for Pioli's head are just buying into what has been a media driven campaign since he made an enemy of media favorite Waters, and shut out the media that was use to being somewhat buddy buddy with Peterson. Petro, Whitlock, Wright, and others have been anti Pioli from near the start. The Jackson pick was awful, in fact that whole draft sucked, but it was his first, without his own personnel people. The last two drafts have been very good. Maybe lots of people dispute this, but I looked back at the draft threads, and universally the last two drafts were loved at the time.

Much truthism in this post thing, Mr. Messier.

It's funny how often myths are generated that have so much staying power. The Chiefs are awash in crazy stories that gained traction and stuck like a power sander in an ass crack.

FAX

Ming the Merciless 10-10-2011 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7984940)
No one cares about the media's perception of Pioli.

It has more to do with his performance in acquiring personnel.

Yes because turning around literally a franchise that was the WORST it had been in history is something he should be fired for...

LOL...

I am drunk but seriously are you arguing for Pioli to be fired too or just Haley

you are too much man

Nightfyre 10-10-2011 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 7984981)
Yes because turning around literally a franchise that was the WORST it had been in history is something he should be fired for...

LOL...

I am drunk but seriously are you arguing for Pioli to be fired too or just Haley

you are too much man

I disagree with Pawnmower about much, but I must agree here. I'm sorry he can't turnover 45 roster spots in 2 drafts. (excusing the 2009 atrocity.)

kysirsoze 10-10-2011 08:12 PM

IMO Haley has outperformed Pioli. The fact is, though, that GMs aren't held to the same standards. I think firing Haley would be ill advised, but it could happen. You don't get a lot of time as a HC before you're on the hot seat. Pioli will absolutely not be fired for years to come unless he feels up Clark's wife in a bar or something.

kysirsoze 10-10-2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 7984990)
I disagree with Pawnmower about much, but I must agree here. I'm sorry he can't turnover 45 roster spots in 2 drafts. (excusing the 2009 atrocity.)

You are? I'm not.

Not that I'm done with Pioli, but that is still a huge strike against him. He has a ways to go to make up for it especially considering how the 2010 second round has panned out.

durtyrute 10-10-2011 08:15 PM

This thread is horrible and should just go away.

Ming the Merciless 10-10-2011 08:17 PM

Ima go ahead and call it..

You will die alone

Messier 10-10-2011 08:18 PM

I also love how the fact that most of the talent on the team was acquired before Pioli was here is a weakness. As if that's somehow a negative on Pioli.

Nightfyre 10-10-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7985001)
You are? I'm not.

Not that I'm done with Pioli, but that is still a huge strike against him. He has a ways to go to make up for it especially considering how the 2010 second round has panned out.

You're right, he probably should have used the scouting staff that was scouting for a power-blocking running offensive scheme and a 4-3 defensive scheme.

While the draft was awful, I would contend the majority of the blame lies with Clark for that one. Further, 2009 was amongst the weakest draft classes in recent history.

Further, how you can pass a verdict on the 2010 second round is beyond me. I was very critical of McCluster and Arenas as second round picks. However, even I will give them three years before declaring them busts.

Hammock Parties 10-10-2011 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 7985010)
This thread is horrible and should just go away.

This thread doesn't leave until a month is up.

Keep hope alive.

kysirsoze 10-10-2011 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 7985029)
I also love how the fact that most of the talent on the team was acquired before Pioli was here is a weakness. As if that's somehow a negative on Pioli.

The negative part is he hasn't continued to add to that talent at a rate that can make us competitive for a playoff win much less a Superbowl. If it wasn't for Eric Berry being a completely no doubt, obvious pick at 5, Pioli would look REALLY shitty right now.

kysirsoze 10-10-2011 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 7985038)
You're right, he probably should have used the scouting staff that was scouting for a power-blocking running offensive scheme and a 4-3 defensive scheme.

While the draft was awful, I would contend the majority of the blame lies with Clark for that one. Further, 2009 was amongst the weakest draft classes in recent history.

Further, how you can pass a verdict on the 2010 second round is beyond me. I was very critical of McCluster and Arenas as second round picks. However, even I will give them three years before declaring them busts.

Not calling them busts, but they are not looking good. So far, it looks like we got one solid return guy out of those two 2nds, one of which was so high it was practically a 1st.

Also, Everybody was floored at the Tyson Jackson pick. I didn't need a crew of scouts to tell me that was an outrageous reach. That was common knowledge as soon as it came out of Goodell's mouth. As it turned out it was even worse than we thought, but even by just common sense standards, that was bad. As for the 2nd pick that year that he spent on Cassel, how much more scouting time did he need for that one? This scouting team BS is a cop out. If he had a mediocre 09 draft or even pretty bad, that would be one thing. He had a collossal failure of a draft. Again, not saying I'm done with Pioli, but I'm not going to excuse that shit.

Messier 10-10-2011 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7985047)
The negative part is he hasn't continued to add to that talent at a rate that can make us competitive for a playoff win much less a Superbowl. If it wasn't for Eric Berry being a completely no doubt, obvious pick at 5, Pioli would look REALLY shitty right now.

So you don't like any other draft pick?

kysirsoze 10-10-2011 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 7985064)
So you don't like any other draft pick?

I'm not saying that. I'm saying as a whole Pioli has had a pretty weak draft record here. Some good picks, one fantastic but obvious pick and some uses of draft picks that have seriously set back a franchise that was weak to begin with. I'm hoping Baldwin makes him look good, and I have high hopes for that, but we'll see.

rocknrolla 10-10-2011 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7982455)
I'll call it. I think Haley is gonna be a hell of a head coach. I hope it's here.

I completely agree. So he made a bad decision how to deal with the shorted off season. I think Pioli will keep him around.

Hammock Parties 10-10-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocknrolla (Post 7985263)
I completely agree. So he made a bad decision how to deal with the shorted off season. I think Pioli will keep him around.

So we're going to extend a coach who had two horrible losing seasons in three years?

No.

O.city 10-10-2011 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7985289)
So we're going to extend a coach who had two horrible losing seasons in three years?

No.

Yep we are. And this isn't going to be a horrible losing season. :)

-King- 10-10-2011 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7985289)
So we're going to extend a coach who had two horrible losing seasons in three years?

No.

You expected a winning season in 2009?

kysirsoze 10-10-2011 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7985289)
So we're going to extend a coach who had two horrible losing seasons in three years?

No.

As much as I am for us getting Luck, it's a little early to call this a "horrible losing season." If Pioli looks at a 2-3 record and fires his coach because he considers this a losing season, then he is serious dumb****.

Hammock Parties 10-10-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7985322)
As much as I am for us getting Luck, it's a little early to call this a "horrible losing season." If Pioli looks at a 2-3 record and fires his coach because he considers this a losing season, then he is serious dumb****.

This is going to be a horrible losing season. Make no mistake. We can't play winless losers every week.


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