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'Hamas' Jenkins 11-06-2011 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 8088229)
So the talent has been coached up? They are better than they were before?

I'll take "Non-Sequiturs" for $600.

ArrowheadMagic 11-06-2011 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8088238)
I'll take "Non-Sequiturs" for $600.


it matters because you claim the core players were in place before the current regime. they have gotten better under the current regime. unless your claim is by being in the league longer automatically makes them better players.

BossChief 11-06-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 8088175)
Someone on the radio today brought up a good point; the Chiefs played the Bills in 91 in that huge Monday night game and won by 20 and then turned around that Sunday and demolished the Dolphins by 35 pts. That was a young team too.

No excuses for losing by 30 freaking points to an 0-7 team especially at home

Would that be the case if that team had lost Derron Cherry, Christian Okoye and Jesse Haynes before the year started... and were forced to play Mark Vlasic while having Deberg on the bench because Vlasic was on a big money contract?

That would make things different, wouldn't it?

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8088204)
You cannot honestly claim that this team was completely untalented when the majority of the impact players on this team were here before the current regime got here.

The only two players we had at the time that were producing were Flowers and Bowe.

Hali was an average to above average pass rusher, but was a total liability against the run. We broke the record in 08 for least sacks in the history of the NFL, even with Hali and Dorsey...some seem to forget that.
Carr was still making a lot of mistakes and wasn't very good at all.
Dorsey got washed out the majority of the time and was severely overweight when Haley got here (showing that he was undisciplined and lazy)
Bowe was always talented, but he was lazy and very inconsistent. He dropped a lot of passes and was unfocused....nobody can say those things
anymore.
DJ.....I dont even need to go into that.
Charles' average per attempt and amount of fumbles per carry have improved every year he has been here.

Like I said, Im not gonna overreact to this loss.

Buehler445 11-06-2011 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 8088236)
Sounds like they thought Miami was going to be a gimme.

Going out and getting plastered the night before a game is pretty stupid. After a night of getting hammered, I need at least 24-48 hours to recoup before Im good to go.


Sounds like Todd needs to get a grip on his team if thats the case.

Dude. If you were operating your body at peak performance, it would take longer than that. I never drank while I was playing sports. It will **** you up bad, for a long time.

Dave Lane 11-06-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8087871)
No ****ing shit.

We've had our asses completely handed to us three times this year.

That's Herm 2008 garbage.

But even Herm didn't get sandblasted as much as Haley has been in 2.5 years as Chiefs HC.

You're insane. Never mention that clowns name again.

4th and Long 11-06-2011 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8088205)
If you can't see the shit storm on the horizon, I feel sorry for you.

I have a bad feeling the next month is gonna be the worst part of Haley's tenure.

Ya think?

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Oh Snap 11-07-2011 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 8088244)
Dude. If you were operating your body at peak performance, it would take longer than that. I never drank while I was playing sports. It will **** you up bad, for a long time.

Well, I dont play sport today. However, I am 25 years old, and into bodybuilding. At 6'3 227lbs and 8% body fat, I think I have a pretty good idea.

When I go out and get hammered, my body isn't the same for at least 2-3 days. Maybe even a week for total recovery. Its a big reason why I dont go out and get hammered routinely. It affects my recovery time way too much. Gym sessions are never the same either. So I keep my drinking to a minimum.

Buehler445 11-07-2011 12:03 AM

George, you always have a way of putting it in perspective.

I'm glad to hear KC is doing right by the vets. I would expect nothing less.

It's truly amazing how up and down this team is. We looked like we were going to blast them out of the stadium the first drive, and then we did precisely NOTHING that was worth a flying feces after that.

Call it what you want to call it, a good team does not suffer losses like this. Good teams can have days where shit happens and nothing can go right ever. But this is different. This was tremendous lack of focus, intensity, and intelligence. And at least part of it has to go to scheme.

This is absolutely a team loss. There was no player, coach, waterboy, towel bitch anybody that had a satisfactory performance. All facets of the game need adjustment and improvement.

I just look at the great teams "bad losses" recently, and none of them seemed to be just piss poor performances. Some lacked focus. Some lacked intensity. Some made bonehead plays. I can't think of a one that did all of it. And I can't think of one that had such egrigious scheme deficiencies.

Buehler445 11-07-2011 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 8088255)
Well, I dont play sport today. However, I am 25 years old, and into bodybuilding. At 6'3 227lbs and 8% body fat, I think I have a pretty good idea.

When I go out and get hammered, my body isn't the same for at least 2-3 days. Maybe even a week for total recovery. Its a big reason why I dont go out and get hammered routinely. It affects my recovery time way too much. Gym sessions are never the same either. So I keep my drinking to a minimum.

That's what I'm saying. 24 hours won't do it. I'd say a week is probably about what would get you back to where you were before you got hammered. That's if you're taking care of yourself. But that's just my experience. No science involved.

Oh Snap 11-07-2011 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 8088259)
That's what I'm saying. 24 hours won't do it. I'd say a week is probably about what would get you back to where you were before you got hammered. That's if you're taking care of yourself. But that's just my experience. No science involved.

This team is very undisciplined if that is the case.

go bo 11-07-2011 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 8088236)
Sounds like they thought Miami was going to be a gimme.

Going out and getting plastered the night before a game is pretty stupid. After a night of getting hammered, I need at least 24-48 hours to recoup before Im good to go.


Sounds like Todd needs to get a grip on his team if thats the case.

pussy! :p :p :p

Buehler445 11-07-2011 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 8088263)
This team is very undisciplined if that is the case.

Agree. It's bullshit if they're doing it.

Iconic 11-07-2011 12:10 AM

If the Tweet is veritably true... I have a few solid guesses as to who did the late night consuming.:rolleyes:

ArrowheadMagic 11-07-2011 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 8088259)
That's what I'm saying. 24 hours won't do it. I'd say a week is probably about what would get you back to where you were before you got hammered. That's if you're taking care of yourself. But that's just my experience. No science involved.

So in your professional opinion, no professional athlete has ever gotten drunk during a season and performed well? Or would it be safe to say, that not everyones bodies react the same? Since you admit, you have never played a sport professionally.

Oh Snap 11-07-2011 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by go bowe (Post 8088264)
pussy! :p :p :p


You haven't drank with me! ;)

ArrowheadMagic 11-07-2011 12:11 AM

LOL.. fandom is serious business.

Oh Snap 11-07-2011 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 8088271)
LOL.. fandom is serious business.

I'm german, we take alcohol very srsly.

ArrowheadMagic 11-07-2011 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 8088272)
I'm german, we take alcohol very srsly.

LOL.

4th and Long 11-07-2011 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap
Well, I dont play sport today. However, I am 25 years old, and into bodybuilding. At 6'3 227lbs and 8% body fat, I think I have a pretty good idea.

When I go out and get hammered, my body isn't the same for at least 2-3 days. Maybe even a week for total recovery. Its a big reason why I dont go out and get hammered routinely. It affects my recovery time way too much. Gym sessions are never the same either. So I keep my drinking to a minimum. .

That's a worthless stat.

I'm 47 years old, 175lbs and 97.5% body fat and I can tell you that I feel like crap for 2-3 days after getting hammered too. :p

BossChief 11-07-2011 12:17 AM

reason for optimism:

Pass rushing rank:

NE tied for 24th
PITT tied for 10th (also tied for 10th was Miami)
CHI tied for 24th
NYJ tied for 18th
GB are 17th

Reason for pessimism:

all of them will be ranked higher after playing us.

Buehler445 11-07-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 8088268)
So in your professional opinion, no professional athlete has ever gotten drunk during a season and performed well? Or would it be safe to say, that not everyones bodies react the same? Since you admit, you have never played a sport professionally.

I have no professional opinion.

I have never professionally played a sport.

However, athletes can go out and get drunk and still play, perhaps even play well. But it is nowhere near what they are capable of.

It affects reaction time, explosiveness, and focus. Players may react differently, but nobody is getting smashed the night before and playing their best at noon the next day.

jd1020 11-07-2011 12:22 AM

1 of them was Stanzi, for obvious reasons.

BossChief 11-07-2011 12:23 AM

Im not buying this story one bit, but I bet Nick Wrong has a 3 hour bit on it for tomorrows show.

Bugeater 11-07-2011 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8088243)

Like I said, Im not gonna overreact to this loss.

No one is saying you need to overreact to this loss on its own, but you damn well better acknowledge that it's the 3rd ****ing time this season this team has shown up not ready to play. You seem like you want to ignore that pesky little fact.

Hammock Parties 11-07-2011 12:26 AM

Just watched the first series for offense and defense.

We looked good. They came out with plenty of energy and effort.

We flat out were not prepared and did not adjust. Poor coaching and preparation.

ArrowheadMagic 11-07-2011 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 8088289)
I have no professional opinion.

I have never professionally played a sport.

However, athletes can go out and get drunk and still play, perhaps even play well. But it is nowhere near what they are capable of.

It affects reaction time, explosiveness, and focus. Players may react differently, but nobody is getting smashed the night before and playing their best at noon the next day.

Granted they wont be at their best but to claim they cant recover within 48 hrs with proper hydration is redonkulous. But I guess its not CP without something to bitch about. So pardon my interruption... Continue bitching.

Titty Meat 11-07-2011 12:27 AM

Mac isn't a bullshitter.

Hammock Parties 11-07-2011 12:37 AM

4-man rush was stoned on the first big play for Miami on their 2nd drive.

Romeo absolutely has to start blitzing turds like Matt Moore.

BossChief 11-07-2011 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8088298)
No one is saying you need to overreact to this loss on its own, but you damn well better acknowledge that it's the 3rd ****ing time this season this team has shown up not ready to play. You seem like you want to ignore that pesky little fact.

We are a young team without a quarterback and missing three of our best players, man.

Going from Berry to McGraw was a huge dropoff and going from McGraw to Washington seemed to give us major issues in terms of communication in the secondary. Arenas not playing intensified the problem and lead to a lot of breakdowns in coverage.

That coupled with us not being able to finish big plays lost us this game.

Baldwin was wide open on two occasions this game that would have gone for touchdowns....Breaston was wide open on one 35 yard pass and was wide open across the middle when Cassel overthrew him on another...Kendrick Lewis just missed intercepting an early pass. Jon Baldwin getting called for pushing off on his touchdown.

Stuff like that happens and its tough to win.

Hammock Parties 11-07-2011 12:40 AM

Is it also tough to not get blown out by 4 TDs?

I can excuse losing because the Dolphins have been close with good teams.

I can't excuse this utterly embarrassing garbage.

ArrowheadMagic 11-07-2011 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8088334)
Is it also tough to not get blown out by 4 TDs?

I can excuse losing because the Dolphins have been close with good teams.

I can't excuse this utterly embarrassing garbage.


Yes it was a disturbing loss. What are you going to do about it? Surely you have the press credentials to get to the bottom of the story.

Hammock Parties 11-07-2011 12:45 AM

You don't need press credentials to see our franchise leadership is a bag of shite.

ArrowheadMagic 11-07-2011 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8088342)
You don't need press credentials to see our franchise leadership is a bag of shite.

Yes, this is a talentless team. No one has been coached up... No talent has been acquired.

BossChief 11-07-2011 12:48 AM

highs and lows

one week we go into Oakland and dominate them....a few weeks later we get stomped at home against Miami

Hammock Parties 11-07-2011 12:50 AM

Cassel really screws up the 3rd drive.

1. Poor throw

2. Gets spooked and doesn't see a wide open Jackie Battle for a dumpoff. 0-yard scramble.

3. Throws past the LOS.

Bad.

Titty Meat 11-07-2011 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8088347)
highs and lows

one week we go into Oakland and dominate them....a few weeks later we get stomped at home against Miami

Yup no big deal because every year the division is this bad.....

It's not like players getting hammered 10 hours before a game is a big deal.....

We'll just put in a future journey man QB in Ricky Stanzi and be ok.....

ArrowheadMagic 11-07-2011 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8088347)
highs and lows

one week we go into Oakland and dominate them....a few weeks later we get stomped at home against Miami

Good teams have let downs.... but are we really as good team? See how we rebound against the Tebow's. But it wouldnt be this place unless people overreacted to everything.

ArrowheadMagic 11-07-2011 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8088349)
Cassel really screws up the 3rd drive.

1. Poor throw

2. Gets spooked and doesn't see a wide open Jackie Battle for a dumpoff. 0-yard scramble.

3. Throws past the LOS.

Bad.

Breaking news, probably deserves it own thread. Dont let that get buried in this thread.

BossChief 11-07-2011 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8088350)
Yup no big deal because every year the division is this bad.....

It's not like players getting hammered 10 hours before a game is a big deal.....

We'll just put in a future journey man QB in Ricky Stanzi and be ok.....

If what it ****ing takes is a few more games like this to show that Cassel needs replaced along with a few others, sign me up.

Honestly, I dont care if thats with Stanzi or somebody else but Stanzi should get a shot this year so that we know how much a priority the position should be in the next draft.

We absolutely know what we have in Cassel and its the same old song and dance. Pressure him and he shits the bed.

For me, the next step is to move on from a few players and make some choices that need made.

Hudson for Weigmann
Gaither for Richardson
Stanzi for Palko

That should bolster the line and give somebody to take some garbage time if we continue to lose games in that fashion.

And FFS run McClain or Battle inside the 5 yard line...not a midget.

Hammock Parties 11-07-2011 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 8088356)
Breaking news, probably deserves it own thread. Dont let that get buried in this thread.

You sure are being a bitch tonight.

ArrowheadMagic 11-07-2011 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8088363)
You sure are being a bitch tonight.


lol... your crying is rubbing me wrong tonight sister. It'll pass.

Hammock Parties 11-07-2011 01:09 AM

What will pass? You really think things are going to improve?

Titty Meat 11-07-2011 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8088362)
If what it ****ing takes is a few more games like this to show that Cassel needs replaced along with a few others, sign me up.

Honestly, I dont care if thats with Stanzi or somebody else but Stanzi should get a shot this year so that we know how much a priority the position should be in the next draft.

We absolutely know what we have in Cassel and its the same old song and dance. Pressure him and he shits the bed.

For me, the next step is to move on from a few players and make some choices that need made.

Hudson for Weigmann
Gaither for Richardson
Stanzi for Palko

That should bolster the line and give somebody to take some garbage time if we continue to lose games in that fashion.

And FFS run McClain or Battle inside the 5 yard line...not a midget.

Thing is this is more than just a Cassel problem bro people need to be held accountable.

Titty Meat 11-07-2011 01:26 AM

Pisscatili should be released we need to carry an extra running back that can run faster than 4.7.

BossChief 11-07-2011 01:39 AM

I'd also cut Sabby...but I'd take it a step further. I'd outright cut Jones, too.

Replace them with the best safety and running back from another teams practice squad.

Neither player helps this team on Sunday's.

Buehler445 11-07-2011 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 8088307)
Granted they wont be at their best but to claim they cant recover within 48 hrs with proper hydration is redonkulous. But I guess its not CP without something to bitch about. So pardon my interruption... Continue bitching.

Heh. Are you dense or are you stirring shit?

Look, if you were getting absolute peak performance out of your body, in terms of reaction time, explosiveness, and stamina. And you got obliterated, you wouldn't be back operating at peak performance after 48 hours. These chuckleheads could probably go out and play pretty well, but they wouldn't be getting the best performance out of their bodies they could.

But **** it. None of that matters. It wasn't 48 hours, it was 10. If players that were active were out getting ****ed up at 2AM and they played at noon, that would have an effect on their performance. If it is Stanzi, Powe, and the practice squad, who cares.

I'm not overreacting. My hair is not on fire. I'm not freaking out in my little hole out here in no man's land. But if the report is true (who knows, it is twitter, it may have been Kendal Gammon or some douche with a chiefs hat on), it is pretty troubling.

Deberg_1990 11-07-2011 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8088203)
No way shape or form am I going to defend today's performance. No doubt about that.

But I don't have a problem waiting to see how the season plays out before delivering a verdict on Haley. The possibility still exists that this team could win the division two of his first three years.

Of course, there's the possibility this team could go down the tube like we did the year under Herm where we came off the playoff berth, started 4-3, got beat down two weeks in a row at home and lost out.

Same for me. Ill hold judgement on Haley until the season is over. I already mentioned 3 coaches names as to why im thinking the Chiefs hold on to Haley. Sometimes teams prefer a young coach to grow into the job rather than dismiss him and keep the coaching carosel spinning.

KCUnited 11-07-2011 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 8087872)
Earlier Saturday; Haley was seen at Ray's Play-Pen w/ Andre Rison and Richard Gere's pet gerbil.

The Pen's been closed for a bit. :(

Freakin' laundromat now.

Otter 11-07-2011 08:42 AM

I was kinda waiting for the Chiefs to lay an egg this game but after watching the 1st drive my hopes soared only to be beaten down brutally. I certainly wasn't expecting a beating like that either way.

We're still miles away from ever competing with a team like the Steelers, Ravens or Packers.

Frosty 11-07-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 8088526)
I was kinda waiting for the Chiefs to lay an egg this game but after watching the 1st drive my hopes soared only to be beaten down brutally. I certainly wasn't expecting a beating like that either way.

We're still miles away from ever competing with a team like the Steelers, Ravens or Packers.

I watched part of the Giants - Pats game yesterday. Those TE's of NE are going to eat the Chiefs alive. :shake:

aturnis 11-07-2011 09:00 AM

The Saints just lost to the Rams. The only reason that game wasn't a blowout was b/c the Saints have Drew Brees and not Matt Cassel. Stop overreacting.

Muir needs to be replaced. The line suffers mentally as much as it suffers physically. When was the last time this team picked up a blitz flawlessly? They aren't coached well enough to know their assignments. Hell, Albert and Richardson still have plays where they don't know who to block and this is the third year they've been in this system.

I would welcome Sparano as our new oline coach.

I also would lean towards Le'Ron McClain as the Saturday night partier. His twitter account leads me to believe he wants desperately to be a part of a rappers social circle, a la LJ. He is friends with more rappers, strippers, and port stars than any dedicated athlete should be. He's also best friends with Gaither, who happens to be besties with Albert. I wonder if Albert is a follower or a leader?

Old Dog 11-07-2011 09:21 AM

Nicely done George.

I think the whole daylight saving time screwed them. Instead of setting their clocks back one hour, they just set them back to week one. Time travel may be the only plausible explanation.

PhillyChiefFan 11-07-2011 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 8088526)
I was kinda waiting for the Chiefs to lay an egg this game but after watching the 1st drive my hopes soared only to be beaten down brutally. I certainly wasn't expecting a beating like that either way.

We're still miles away from ever competing with a team like the Steelers, Ravens or Packers.

That was the most disheartening thing about yesterday. They aren't just losses, they are BEAT DOWNS. In 3 of the 4 losses, the Chiefs have been outscored 120-13.

boogblaster 11-07-2011 10:38 AM

good read ...

OnTheWarpath15 11-07-2011 10:47 AM

Anyone on KC radio brought up the Mac Lethal tweet yet?

Sofa King 11-07-2011 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8088836)
Anyone on KC radio brought up the Mac Lethal tweet yet?

Nick Wright will after seeing this thread.

Hydrae 11-07-2011 10:59 AM

Nice Andy Rooney take.

Otherwise, I refuse to discuss this TEAM loss.

gblowfish 11-07-2011 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8088843)
Nick Wright will after seeing this thread.

If reading threads on the CP is part of his show prep, that's pretty weak.

FAX 11-07-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8088962)
If reading threads on the CP is part of his show prep, that's pretty weak.

Well it's two things, really.

One is reading threads on CP and the other is getting drunk and throwing chicken bones on the lid of a 50 gallon drum.

FAX

MahiMike 11-07-2011 03:12 PM

"6. Was the defense the worst of the two? I can make a case for that too. What happened to Tamba Hali? I'll tell you what happened, Jake Long happened. Dude showed why he was the very first pick in the 2008 NFL draft. He stoned Hali. Just stoned him. The times Hali did manage to clear Long's block, the Fish had a back in protection to double team him. "

I said the same thing to my Dolphins buddy. He said Long has been a weak spot all year. But he looked 100 lbs bigger than Hali. If they moved Hali around or started both him and Houston from same side, I didn't see it. He had all day.

Miami matched up well against us, outplayed us and schemed us better. Definitely took advantage of our safeties and threw it at will over the middle.

Easy 6 11-07-2011 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8087860)
Sounds like Todd really changed the culture here.

Goddamn, you just cant help yourself can you?

scho63 11-07-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8087673)
Ten Things About Today's Game

10.If you ever needed a textbook definition of the term "Trap Game," today would be it. The whole rhythm of the day seemed off. Maybe it was the hangover from Monday Night Football. Maybe it was the time change. Maybe it was knowing the team coming in to Arrowhead was a big donut hole for seven on the season. In any event, the Chiefs looked like the winless team today, and Miami looked like they had everything to play for. The Fish hustled, hit big plays, didn't make a lot of stupid mistakes, played well in all phases; in short, they deserved to win. Congrats to them on a game well played and for getting off the donut.

9.-2. Omitted

1. Despite how maddening and frustrating this day was, all is not lost. The Faiders and Bolts both lost, and since Denver won today, maybe they'll not be as focused for KC next week. Hopefully the team will get it's collective act together and have a little "Come to Jesus" meeting in store for Tim Tebow. Things will not get easier with the Pack, Bears, Jets and Steelers looming on the horizon, so we have to make hay while we can. One last thing. It was Veterans Appreciation Day at Arrowhead. At halftime they had a beautiful surprise family reunion for an Iraq vet. It was very touching. They also showed a tribute in pictures to many of the men and women from Missouri and Kansas that have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. The dead came from everywhere we come from: KC, Columbia, St. Joe, Topeka, Manhattan, Wichita, on and on and on. There were dozens of them. After watching that, it made the second half of the game seem pretty meaningless, or at least it put into perspective what truly is a life and death matter. War is a life and death matter, football is not.

Thank you to all the veterans, past and current, for having our backs.


:thumb:

You should be writing for the KC Star

seamonster 11-07-2011 05:57 PM

I'm really lost with this team. I want to say they need a pass rush probably a little more than they need a quarterback, and half the reason they keep getting choke slammed and blown out by random teams is there's no rush to disrupt the other teams rhythem, which then puts pressure on one of the least compossed quarterbacks in the NFL to move the ball. Seems to be a vicous cycle and if they could pick up a Kerrigan-type player in the draft this year, to go a long with a non-crippled berry, they could start wrecking sht. I actually think Haley's done a good job holding the team together and handling the season though, people should't be jumping to conclusions there...

Micjones 11-07-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 8090132)
I'm really lost with this team. I want to say they need a pass rush probably a little more than they need a quarterback, and half the reason they keep getting choke slammed and blown out by random teams is there's no rush to disrupt the other teams rhythem, which then puts pressure on one of the least compossed quarterbacks in the NFL to move the ball. Seems to be a vicous cycle and if they could pick up a Kerrigan-type player in the draft this year, to go a long with a non-crippled berry, they could start wrecking sht. I actually think Haley's done a good job holding the team together and handling the season though, people should't be jumping to conclusions there...

You keep wondering when Bailey or Houston are going to stand up and be counted. I'm always wondering what the difference has been with Gilberry. Maybe the added weight has hurt his ability to close?

petegz28 11-07-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 8090132)
I'm really lost with this team. I want to say they need a pass rush probably a little more than they need a quarterback, and half the reason they keep getting choke slammed and blown out by random teams is there's no rush to disrupt the other teams rhythem, which then puts pressure on one of the least compossed quarterbacks in the NFL to move the ball. Seems to be a vicous cycle and if they could pick up a Kerrigan-type player in the draft this year, to go a long with a non-crippled berry, they could start wrecking sht. I actually think Haley's done a good job holding the team together and handling the season though, people should't be jumping to conclusions there...

I agree, we have to focus on our pass rush more so than I thought we did at the end of the season last year. Taking TJ and putting him into a 3-4 was a mistake. Dorsey is barley making it. Gregg was the stop gap for Powe but Powe never sees the field. We could have had the guy that went to Baltimore last year but NOOOOOOO! Instead we fell in love with "playmakers". Berry and Baldwin were probably good picks but Dex and Arenas? I like Javier but seriously, I think we had more needs in the trenches than we did for undersized guys.

Easy 6 11-07-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 8089750)
Goddamn, you just cant help yourself can you?

Todd Haley, rookie head coach, came into KC and took this team to a division title in his second year, his second... far bigger coaching names have taken a lot longer to claim as much, with a team in such a longstanding, abysmal shithole.

Not to mention that he did it with a bevy of picks & signings that have sometimes been less than stellar, as you are keen to point out, dont equate some jersey shore rejects dumb move with Haley not being a positive force for this team, warts & all... c'mon, you cant truthfully say that he hasnt changed the culture in a positive way.

aturnis 11-07-2011 10:06 PM

Tyson Jackson consistently gets more pressure on the QB than Dorsey ever does. Dorsey usually gets pretty well stoned at the POA and TJ pushes his guy clear back to the QB quite often. It's like he doesn't really try to get off of the block and go after the QB though. Just pushes him back and puts his hands in the air. Has a few batted passes to his name though.

texaschiefsfan 11-09-2011 08:32 AM

I would like to thank all of the players for the Kansas City Chiefs who left me with horrible memories from my return trip to Arrowhead. I hadn't been to a game there since 1987 and I drove 1,000 miles to see their "effort". Thanks again!

On the bright side, I did enjoy meeting Keith Cash. My favorite Chiefs memory is of him spiking the ball on that huge picture of Buddy Ryan's face in the endzone in Houston.

FAX 11-09-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by texaschiefsfan (Post 8094164)
I would like to thank all of the players for the Kansas City Chiefs who left me with horrible memories from my return trip to Arrowhead. I hadn't been to a game there since 1987 and I drove 1,000 miles to see their "effort". Thanks again!

On the bright side, I did enjoy meeting Keith Cash. My favorite Chiefs memory is of him spiking the ball on that huge picture of Buddy Ryan's face in the endzone in Houston.



That was a great sports moment, to be sure.

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