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This team has talent, probably more than we've had since Vermeil was here. However still big holes in talent that other teams are taking advantage of. I think Haley's talent is in getting players to play up to their capabilities, except perhaps Cassel. Those holes are what is holding us back. The fact that the opposition is only occassionally able to take advantage of us is probably due to the team being coached up. I still don't like the schemes, but again that may be necessitated by the talent. Haley shouldn't be on the hotseat as much as Pioli and ownership.
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Mr. Laz is right. It's a tired, old argument.
Haley has his faults and his detractors focus on those. Cassel is ... well ... he might be from somewhere near the Pleiades and his alien parents dropped him off here from a great height and he landed on his head ... he has his faults, too, and his detractors will focus on those. The point of my original post is this; if Pioli has so, so, so much confidence in Haley and such a great working relationship and they are so committed to winning a Superbowl and all ... why in the name of Ms. RednFeisty's tight ass are we so far under the cap, invisible in free agency, and starting one of the worst quarterbacks in the history of the NFL? That doesn't sound like teamwork to me. Ergo and thus, I claim that Pioli is full of crap. FAX |
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This team is only two or three KEY players away from being damn good. |
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======================== At Florida, the former Kansas City Chiefs coordinator will get $765,000 this year, then $865,000 annually over the next two years, according to the Post. He also received a $100,000 signing bonus and gets a $10,000 supplement for wearing Nike apparel. http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foo...is-huge-salary ============================ |
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J. Baldwin Jerrry Urban that little dude Arizona cut that we brought in last year for a few games Lenny Pope Tony Becht was in Az. in '09 I would say Haley has some say so, not complete, but obviously Pioli is listening to him. |
After 0-3 stretch: "Pioli isn't talking to Haley. He should be fired within the next 2 weeks."
After 4-1 stretch: "Pioli praises Haley. Says young team and young coach are growing into their roles." |
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You're a ****ing idiot. Tell us all about these teams that are winning SBs with less than non franchise type QBs. |
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Every ****ing time Cassel sees pressure, he shits his pants. Every good team Cassel faces he shits his pants. He looked better last year because we played shitty teams. |
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If you have a boss who asks you to do somehting his way, you do it or get the **** out. Haley is the head coach. He's the boss. If he expects his underling, Charlie Weis to so something his way, Charlie Weis does that thing Haley's way. If he couldn't do that, he needs to get the **** out. |
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Then again, I once told an employee to get the hell out and he stayed. It was a tad confusing. FAX |
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You know, it makes sense (however) that Weis takes the job on account of Pioli with the idea that he would have more control over the offense than Haley was ultimately willing to provide. The Pioli-Weis connection has a lot more history than the Haley-Weis connection does, after all. So, Weis takes the job, then gets pissy because he can't have donuts delivered every half-hour. He then whines to Pioli who says (rightfully), "Haley's the boss. If he says no donuts, that's the way it is." Weis then gets even pissy-er and starts acting out in meetings. Friction escalates and Haley tells Weis to blow it out his ass. Weis cries to Mommy and they decide to bail. Either Weis shouldn't have taken the job in the first place or acknowledged Haley as his HC and "boss" and toed the line. Conclusion: Weis is a overly gorged, egotistical dipstick. That's my theory. FAX |
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Or this ...
Early in his NFL career, Haley is fetching coffee for Weis. Then, as the years pass, Weis fails miserably as a head coach and is fired from ND so he takes a job working for Haley. At first, it sounds like an okay idea, but eventually, Weis' ego freaks out on him and he simply can't handle being reminded of his utter failure so he convinces Cassel that throwing super high is the key to success in the league and splits town. How about that? FAX |
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Their offensive line is better than New Orleans. Their RBs are better than New Orleans (were a HELL of a lot better last year). Their defense is a HELL of a lot better than New Orleans. Their receivers are better than New Orleans. New Orleans has better tight ends, but that only started happening this year. What I just said goes also for New England. I would argue that our talent isn't even that far off from Green Bay. It's amazing what a great QB can do for this team. |
The playcalling fiasco... no excuse for that.
I always wondered if Haley would manage games differently with a different QB. Does he milk time at the end of first halves because of poor clock management, or does he just have that little faith in his QB to not make a pick-6? Did he take a ton of chances on 4th down in the past because he's arrogantly aggressive, or did he do that because he knew he couldn't win without a few lucky bounces? Is the offensive playcalling notoriously conservative? Or is it just because he's doing everything he can to take the ball out of Cassel's hands? The Cardinals had a sound offensive gameplan. You wonder what Haley's game plan / game management looks like under a very good QB. I just don't think you can fire him until you know this. |
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Or maybe ...
Weis shows up early for work after a late night trying to get out of his pants. He's slightly hungover, extremely groggy and has missed second breakfast. Hunger strikes and strikes hard. In his semi-conscious state, Weis mistakenly eats Haley's commemorative Super Bowl football. When Haley finds out what has happened, he kicks Weis in the gut causing his gall bladder to explode. Weis is rushed to surgery. Meanwhile, Haley trades two Arrowhead season tickets to the surgeon in exchange for leaving a scar on Weis' belly that reads, "I'm a stupid fat bastard." in cursive script. After leaving the hospital it takes Weis several weeks before he can lift his belly sufficiently high to read the surgeon's handwriting at which point Weis gets all pissy and decides to leave. How about that? FAX |
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He doesn't simply endorse Haley, he elaborates on it to an extent. That excludes it as a "Well, what the hell do you epect him to say" type of things. |
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Yes, the boss gets to decide what happens. Nobody is arguing that, you moron. I'll try and talk slow so your senile old ass can keep up. The ... issue ... isn't ... about ... who ... had ... authority ... about ... the ... offense. It's ... about ... making ... the ... right ... decisions. can you comprehend, you idiot,inbred POS? Haley decided to fire gailey ... his decision. But was it the right one? Haley and Weis couldn't co-exist so naturally Weis is the one that leaves. But is it the right decision. Cassel isn't a great QB but he was clearly better under weis. is Haley part of the problem or part of the solution? watching the offense now suggest that Haley made the wrong decisions because the offense now looks like it's coached by the 3 stooges. So the ultimate issue is about ... when we get a new/better quarterback, do we want an incompetent offensive coaching staff developing him? oh, and can somebody hold milkman's hand and try to keep that ****ing fool on topic since he can't seem to stay focused about it. |
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Todd Haley is the HC. Chan Gailey and Charlie Weis both worked for Todd Haley. I believe that it was a mistake to fire Gailey, and I think that dumbasses like you give Weis credit for something that is absolutely false specifically that he did anything that made Cassel look better. The weak teams on the schedule did that. I don't give a rat's ass that his useless ass is gone. Bottom line, however, is that they both worked for Haley and it was their responsibillity to adapt to Haley. Now, if you want to argue that Pioli should have fired Haley before he let Haley chase off either, that's an entirely different discussion. I'm absolutely on topic. You're just too ****ing stupid to recognize that. |
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