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Hammock Parties 11-10-2011 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8096674)

1 of those offseasons was cut short due to the late hiring of staff and personnel and another was cut short due to a lockout.
That's no excuse. Every other team in the league had the same issue. Pioli is supposed to be the best in that kind of situation.

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We look as bad as when he took over?

Really?
Yes.

Cassel is on pace to have a season almost identical to the one he had in 2009.

The Chiefs are horrible on offense (26th) and defense (26th) and are getting blown out with regularity.

And I think we can all agree it only gets more difficult from here on out.

This season is headed south. In a month people are going to hate this regime.

GordonGekko 11-10-2011 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096677)
...In a month people are going to hate this regime.
In a month? I instantly knew how shitty this regime was when they drafted TJax. The TJax pick says everything about the current state of the Chiefs organization, just like the Tebow pick for the Broncows and Russell for the Raiders. The TJax pick told me immediately that the people running the Chiefs have absolutely no idea what it takes to win, and win consistently in the League.

Okie_Apparition 11-10-2011 06:00 AM
Cassel & Gocheifs are the same age
The mental makeup & effort parallel

Hammock Parties 11-10-2011 07:40 AM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...86771261_n.jpg

Messier 11-10-2011 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096521)
Yeah, he only hired Haley and traded for Cassel.
You mean Haley, the guy you were comparing to Moses last week?

Easy 6 11-10-2011 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8096096)
The fraud is Matt Cassel. It's Pioli first and stupidest ****ing move and alot of us knew it the day it happened. Februay 28, 2009 is the darkest day in Chiefs history, bc we are actually building a championship roster with a shitty QB leading us.
This, all day long.

Hammock Parties 11-10-2011 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8096942)
You mean Haley, the guy you were comparing to Moses last week?
humor, how does it work

Messier 11-10-2011 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096951)
humor, how does it work
So you don't like Haley? Or you do.

Hammock Parties 11-10-2011 09:56 AM
I'm not particularly inclined to support him.

Easy 6 11-10-2011 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096613)
Pioli and Haley have had plenty of time.

They suck.
So, three years/drafts should be all it takes to turn around a club mired in shit for a solid 9, maybe 10 years? its just that simple huh?

And yeah, you're right, the usual suspects will be calling for their heads in a few weeks (many already are), as we face the toughest part of the schedule without the two guys needed most to have a good shot at those games, lashing out at something unnecessary just to show how smart and ahead of the curve they are.

Rausch 11-10-2011 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096964)
I'm not particularly inclined to support him.
I never did.

I'm still a believer in giving a HC 3 years.

Let the season play out and after 3 years look over the whole product and make a decision...

MahiMike 11-10-2011 10:26 AM
Haley is AWEsome!

Rausch 11-10-2011 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 8097026)
Haley is AWEsome!
I bet Tiger Woods couldn't do this well...

Messier 11-10-2011 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096964)
I'm not particularly inclined to support him.
You sang a different song before sunday, but you know that.

Hammock Parties 11-10-2011 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8098115)
You sang a different song before sunday, but you know that.
I did not.

MGRS13 11-10-2011 05:41 PM
ok we get it you hate Haley fine. Whats your answer then? Who do you want for a coach? And don't give some BS answer that isn't gonna happen. Who's it gonna be? I'd ask you who you want position to position but you all ready have a terrible past at backing players. Your fave WR/RB option from 4 years ago pointed that out.

Hammock Parties 11-10-2011 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 8098149)
ok we get it you hate Haley fine. Whats your answer then? Who do you want for a coach? And don't give some BS answer that isn't gonna happen. Who's it gonna be? I'd ask you who you want position to position but you all ready have a terrible past at backing players. Your fave WR/RB option from 4 years ago pointed that out.
Whiffed on LJ and Devard Darling but got the rest of them right.

Easy 6 11-10-2011 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 8098149)
ok we get it you hate Haley fine. Whats your answer then? Who do you want for a coach? And don't give some BS answer that isn't gonna happen. Who's it gonna be? I'd ask you who you want position to position but you all ready have a terrible past at backing players. Your fave WR/RB option from 4 years ago pointed that out.
You're asking that question to the 'Amoral Opportunist' straight from Central Casting.

Its all a game.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-10-2011 09:01 PM
Haley is somewhat like Cassel. Both are "just a guy"s Peter Principled up to their point of incompetence.

milkman 11-10-2011 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8098613)
Haley is somewhat like Cassel. Both are "just a guy"s Peter Principled up to their point of incompetence.
I don't believe that about Haley.

I don't believe he was ready for the position, and he's still learning every year, and every week.

And while I am one who adamantly argues that Haley, as the HC, is the boss, and these OCs need adjust to his philosophy, I do also believe that he needs mellow and bend some as well.

He needs to find coordinators he trusts, but in time, I still feel he has the tools to be an outstanding HC.

Cassel, on the other hand, is just a useless piece of shit.

evenfall 11-10-2011 09:52 PM
you are really upset with them for breaking your prediction, mmm?

MGRS13 11-11-2011 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8098175)
Whiffed on LJ and Devard Darling but got the rest of them right.
Thats what i thought you are a pussy. You want to whine and bitch about Haley(always after the fact of course) You are just a whiner. Either poop or get off the pot. If you don't have answers stop your crying. DD and LJ were not the only things you were wrong about any ways. You want a new coach you tell me who will be better. Be a man... well i guess that isnt possible at least be an adult(who lives in your moms basement)

MGRS13 11-11-2011 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8098175)
Whiffed on LJ and Devard Darling but got the rest of them right.
So im gonna go ahead and keep bumpinmg this until clay stands up like a man(or as close as his mom will let him be to a man) and tells us who it is he wants a coach. Stop being a giant vagina and make a call, i mean u got all the answers right?

Brianfo 11-11-2011 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8095941)
Yep, these guys have a penchant for getting dominated. Let's review:

2009

Ravens 38, Chiefs 24 - A "close game," but the Chiefs get outgained 501-188. Total domination by the Ravens.

Eagles 34, Chiefs 14 - Outgained 420-196. Cassel has a 124.5 QB rating, cus he's awesome.

Giants 27, Chiefs 16 - The Chiefs score two garbage time TDs that makes the score appear closer than it really was. 429-212.

Chargers 37, Chiefs 7 - Pitiful. 403-203.

Chargers 43, Chiefs 13 - Disgusting. 426-284.

Broncos 44, Chiefs 13 - Appalling. 413-222.


2010

Broncos 49, Chiefs 29 - Suddenly, smart fans realize Pioli and Haley are huge frauds.

Chargers 31, Chiefs 0 - 426-67. Brodie Croyle, you say? I say, look at the first game of 2009. No excuses for this.

Raiders 31, Chiefs 10 - 344-201

Ravens 30, Chiefs 7 - Hey, look! 32 games into the Pioli era and the Chiefs are still getting their asses kicked by the Baltimore Ravens! 390-161.


2011

Bills 41, Chiefs 7 - 364-213

Lions 48, Chiefs 3 - 411-267

Dolphins 31, Chiefs 3 - 351-343. I didn't even realize it was possible to match an opponent yard for yard and lose by 28 with NO TURNOVERS.


Summary:

Haley is 18-23 counting the 2010 Baltimore Ravens playoff scrimmage. In 13 of his 23 losses the team has been outright dominated. And THE MAJORITY of those blowouts have come in the last two years when the Chiefs were supposedly "getting better."

Seven of those losses have come at home, meaning that at least twice a year, Arrowhead Stadium season ticket holders can count on witnessing a complete embarrassment. That's 25% of their gameday experiences for the year. One quarter of the time, Haley and Pioli embarrass Arrowhead Stadium.

Future potential blowouts:

@ New England
Pittsburgh
@Chicago
@New York
Green Bay
Oakland
What is your point penis puffer? If you want to root for another team do it. You are in the dictionary right next to attention whore!!

Hey, if you have issues with your personal life there are people that can help you. BwaHaaHaa.

Hope you don't have to sleep alone again tonight. Foregone conclusion!!

O.city 11-11-2011 10:06 PM
I can see the 2009 season. Not much talent on the roster then.


The fact that we are still getting blown out, to me, is solely on the fact that someone thought Matt Cassel could come in a be a franchise qb.

NJChiefsFan 11-11-2011 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8098130)
I did not.
Bullshit you were just playing around and actually hated Haley as of this time last week. How are you freaking kidding.

That being said, I enjoyed that picture of Haley doing the "Most Intersting Man" pose and phrase.

MGRS13 11-13-2011 11:22 AM
So this is just Clays daily Vag check. You ready to stand up today? Or just going to do your normal bitching and whinning?

Hammock Parties 11-13-2011 11:31 AM
Rooting for the Chiefs, as always.

I want to taste Tebow's blood.

Won't be shocked if we lose.

BossChief 11-13-2011 11:46 AM
I hate to say it but I have a bad feeling about the game today.

Hammock Parties 11-13-2011 12:23 PM
Broncos just pulled their ass-kicking boots on.

MGRS13 11-13-2011 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8103980)
Broncos just pulled their ass-kicking boots on.
U still haven't answered the question if not Haley then who?

Hammock Parties 11-13-2011 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 8104712)
U still haven't answered the question if not Haley then who?
Not my decision to make, and I don't have a good answer.

MGRS13 11-13-2011 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8103980)
Broncos just pulled their ass-kicking boots on.
U still haven't answered the question if not Haley then who?

Deberg_1990 11-13-2011 01:22 PM
IM getting really close to being done with Haley. Time and time again, he is unable to get his team prepared to play. The problems with this team extend beyond just Cassel.

Hammock Parties 11-13-2011 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 8104819)
U still haven't answered the question if not Haley then who?
I can't answer the question, sorry.

Bugeater 11-13-2011 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 8104819)
U still haven't answered the question if not Haley then who?
He's not the one who is getting paid millions of dollars to know who dumbass.

Hammock Parties 11-13-2011 01:25 PM
Dexter McCluster has touched the ball more than anyone today.

Baldwin, Bowe and Breaston have combined for about six targets...

Just pathetic.

BossChief 11-13-2011 01:28 PM
Its really not hard to narrow the field.

Take the top ten offenses and defenses and take a deeper look into their coordinators.

Did they get their team to overplay their talent?

Do they fit what we want to do (since its obvious that isnt gonna change)

Do they already have a connection to Pioli or Parcells?

Are they a good fit for our young locker room?

I bet I could spend a couple hours and narrow it down to about 5 guys that would make sense.

Deberg_1990 11-13-2011 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8104906)
Its really not hard to narrow the field.

Take the top ten offenses and defenses and take a deeper look into their coordinators.

Did they get their team to overplay their talent?

Do they fit what we want to do (since its obvious that isnt gonna change)

Do they already have a connection to Pioli or Parcells?

Are they a good fit for our young locker room?

I bet I could spend a couple hours and narrow it down to about 5 guys that would make sense.
Josh McDaniels?

Okie_Apparition 11-13-2011 01:33 PM
If they don't make some halftime adjustments that work
The coffin nails will need to be readied

beach tribe 11-13-2011 02:20 PM
So Haley is not Moses anymore huh?

You're hilarious.

beach tribe 11-13-2011 02:21 PM
It also looks as if The Pats level of talent is falling the **** off since Pioli left.

Hammock Parties 11-13-2011 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 8105626)
So Haley is not Moses anymore huh?

You're hilarious.
Humor, how does it work.

Hammock Parties 11-13-2011 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 8105646)
It also looks as if The Pats level of talent is falling the **** off since Pioli left.
It was falling off before he left.

Hammock Parties 11-21-2011 10:34 PM
34-3

Blowout #4 of 2011

14 blowouts in 25 losses

It's a process.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leqrbq75hD1qcnp9p.gif

L.A. Chieffan 11-21-2011 10:38 PM
This is bullshit. If you don't like the chiefs then be a cowboys fan already, gtfo

Hammock Parties 11-21-2011 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8131371)
This is bullshit. If you don't like the chiefs then be a cowboys fan already, gtfo
I love the Chiefs, and that is why I hate Scott Pioli, Todd Haley and Matt Cassel.

L.A. Chieffan 11-21-2011 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8131385)
I love the Chiefs, and that is why I hate Scott Pioli, Todd Haley and Matt Cassel.
If you loved the chiefs you would support them no matter who was their GM, coach, or qb. Gocowboys would be a good name for you.

chiefzilla1501 11-21-2011 10:46 PM
**** Pioli.

Still okay with Haley.

Isn't it clear that a good QB keeps us in this game?

Hammock Parties 11-21-2011 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8131419)
If you loved the chiefs you would support them no matter who was their GM, coach, or qb.
LMAO

Heil Pioli.

Bugeater 11-21-2011 10:47 PM
This thread should be stickied.

BryanBusby 11-21-2011 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8131435)
**** Pioli.

Still okay with Haley.

Isn't it clear that a good QB keeps us in this game?
**** them both

Bewbies 11-21-2011 10:49 PM
I'll tell you this, I'm tired of watching us get our asses kicked.

Chiefnj2 11-21-2011 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8131435)
Isn't it clear that a good QB keeps us in this game?
No. The team sucks. No discipline. Poor playcalling.

Hammock Parties 11-21-2011 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8131469)
I'll tell you this, I'm tired of watching us get our asses kicked.
Just have to wait for Clark to get tired of it.

chiefzilla1501 11-21-2011 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8131482)
No. The team sucks. No discipline. Poor playcalling.
Our playcalling had our shitty ass QB putting the team in scoring range on the majority of the first half drives. And when Palko began winning it to the other team, it was over.

What are you supposed to do as a coach when you have to throw away every single play in your playbook over 20 yards?

Chiefnj2 11-21-2011 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8131518)
Our playcalling had our shitty ass QB putting the team in scoring range on the majority of the first half drives. And when Palko began winning it to the other team, it was over.

What are you supposed to do as a coach when you have to throw away every single play in your playbook over 20 yards?
Don't punt on 4th and inches in Pat territory and then go for an onside kick. Haley sucks.

chiefzilla1501 11-21-2011 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8131540)
Don't punt on 4th and inches in Pat territory and then go for an onside kick. Haley sucks.
JFC. So we lost this game because of one calculated risk and one situational 50/50 call? Not because of Leonard Pope and Tyler Palko and Donald Washington?

Hammock Parties 12-11-2011 02:28 PM
Blowout #5 of 2011

15 blowouts in 46 games.

It's a process.


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