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JoeyChuckles 11-28-2011 09:56 PM

Is Mark Mangino available?

hometeam 11-28-2011 10:05 PM

Why has noone mentioned Cowher. If we are playing fantasy coach, then why couldnt clark just pony up and lure him out of the booth?

-King- 11-28-2011 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 8152409)
Why has noone mentioned Cowher. If we are playing fantasy coach, then why couldnt clark just pony up and lure him out of the booth?

Cause he's a slightly upgraded version of Marty.

Chiefnj2 11-28-2011 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8152378)
Fisher is ****ing terrible. He's made the playoffs 6 times in his 20 year career. You're nuts if you'd rather have him than Haley.

+1.

I don't know why Fisher gets any respect. 6 of 20 yet Planet members want the guy. It figures.

BigMeatballDave 11-28-2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 8152409)
Why has noone mentioned Cowher. If we are playing fantasy coach, then why couldnt clark just pony up and lure him out of the booth?

No.

tk13 11-28-2011 10:19 PM

Dick Vermeil.

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8152378)
Fisher is ****ing terrible. He's made the playoffs 6 times in his 20 year career. You're nuts if you'd rather have him than Haley.

That's because he took over a complete shit team, and then his owner completely ****ed him over later in his career.

tk13 11-28-2011 10:23 PM

I don't know that Fisher would be my first choice, but it is fair to say he didn't always have it easy in Tennessee. Built a good team with a franchise QB, then had to gut it because they probably had the most cap trouble of any team in the salary cap era. Then his owner saddled him with a QB he didn't want, and he still ran a #1 seed playoff team out there with Kerry Collins.

CaliforniaChief 11-28-2011 10:28 PM

My list of worthwhile candidates would include:

Rob Ryan
Dom Capers
Brian Billick
Jon Gruden
Pepper Johnson

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 10:30 PM

What is Pepper Johnson doing these days...and hey, tree!

OnTheWarpath15 11-28-2011 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 8152473)
My list of worthwhile candidates would include:

Rob Ryan
Dom Capers
Brian Billick
Jon Gruden
Pepper Johnson

Good call on Rob Ryan. Won't happen though.

Pepper Johnson is someone we all better get comfortable with, considering his relationship with Pioli.

OnTheWarpath15 11-28-2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8152480)
What is Pepper Johnson doing these days...and hey, tree!

DL coach for NE.

CaliforniaChief 11-28-2011 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8152486)
Good call on Rob Ryan. Won't happen though.

Pepper Johnson is someone we all better get comfortable with, considering his relationship with Pioli.

You're probably right on Ryan...

I actually think there's a better than decent chance that Romeo gets promoted when Haley gets fired.

Brock 11-28-2011 10:43 PM

Fisher would be very popular in KC. He'd win all his home games.

ChiefsCountry 11-28-2011 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8152486)
Good call on Rob Ryan. Won't happen though.

He is part of the tree though.

Chiefs Pantalones 11-28-2011 10:52 PM

My choice would be Ryan. Although I'm curious as to what his offensive philosophy would be...

tk13 11-28-2011 10:55 PM

Rob Ryan is definitely part of the tree. I just don't know about that. Seems like a Chiefs thing to do... sign up the "other" Ryan brother.

tk13 11-28-2011 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8152583)
My choice would be Ryan. Although I'm curious as to what his offensive philosophy would be...

Punt. The best offense is a good defense.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-29-2011 01:04 AM

:hmmm: Bring Herm in for a look

Pasta Little Brioni 11-29-2011 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8152583)
My choice would be Ryan. Although I'm curious as to what his offensive philosophy would be...

:Lin:

Mk19 11-29-2011 01:10 AM

I'm to the point where I just can't ****ing stand Haley's face right now.

Imon Yourside 11-29-2011 01:18 AM

Fisher

007 11-29-2011 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8152541)
Fisher would be very popular in KC. He'd win all his home games.

8-8 here we come.

lcarus 11-29-2011 01:35 AM

OFFICIAL!

AustinChief 11-29-2011 01:54 AM

What about ...

Rob Chudzinski
Winston Moss
Perry Fewell
Dirk Koetter
Pat Fitzgerald

and in a few years Will Muschamp.

AustinChief 11-29-2011 01:56 AM

OH and let's not forget home town hero.. Chris Tabor!

BigRock 11-29-2011 02:00 AM

There are only 4 scenarios.

1) Haley stays.
1) Haley's fired, replaced by Josh McDaniels.
2) Haley's fired, some team comes sniffing around Romeo, he gets promoted to HC, maybe McDaniels is hired as assistant head coach or some shit.
3) Haley's fired, replaced by some random geek from the Patriots tree whose first duty each morning will be to make Pioli breakfast.

Anything else involves Pioli telling Clark "I know you want the team to have stability and everything, but you see, Mr. Hunt, I am a giant ****up and we need to start over."

007 11-29-2011 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 8152868)
There are only 4 scenarios.

1) Haley stays.
1) Haley's fired, replaced by Josh McDaniels.
2) Haley's fired, some team comes sniffing around Romeo, he gets promoted to HC, maybe McDaniels is hired as assistant head coach or some shit.
3) Haley's fired, replaced by some random geek from the Patriots tree whose first duty each morning will be to make Pioli breakfast.

Anything else involves Pioli telling Clark "I know you want the team to have stability and everything, but you see, Mr. Hunt, I am a giant ****up and we need to start over."

Bring the hammer down.

DeezNutz 11-29-2011 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8152604)
Seems like a Chiefs thing to do... sign up the "other" Ryan brother.

Exactly what I was thinking.

ShortRoundChief 11-29-2011 07:01 AM

5) Haley stays

KC_Lee 11-29-2011 07:40 AM

A few items;

1) No coach that has taken won a Super Bowl with one team has ever gone to another team and won a Super Bowl with the second team. Parcells won two with the Giants and only made to one Super Bowl with the Pats. Consider that before hoping for a retread (John Gruden & Bill Cowher) head coach.

2) Having lived in Nashville for the past 8 years has given me some perspective on Jeff Fisher. People we do not want him as our coach. Other than the fact that he is Marty 2.0, he won't play certian player unless they can do everything. For example, Fisher would only play Jarred Cook on occasion and now that Fisher is gone Cook is quietly turning into a valuable weapon in the mold of Tony G. Seriously, Fisher is hot garbage and should be avoided like the plauge.

Bump 11-29-2011 07:42 AM

I'll take Andy Reid

durtyrute 11-29-2011 08:03 AM

We don't need a coach, we need an OC

BoneKrusher 11-29-2011 08:20 AM

Goldie Hawn
She's not on your list but i thought she did an awesome job with the Wild Cats.

BigRichard 11-29-2011 08:47 AM

I hear Jack Del Rio will be available.

Nightfyre 11-29-2011 11:32 AM

Nightfyre's off-season prediction #1:
1) Haley will stay
2) Bill Muir will be fired as OC, Zorn will be promoted to his position
3) Haley will call the plays on game-day
4) Haley will delegate offensive gameplanning to Zorn and his QB. However, he will still have a hand in the process.

What everyone fails to realize, imo, is that Haley is doing his job as head coach. Yes, he makes questionable game management decisions, but this is a skill he can develop over time.
A head coaches job is to provide motivation, provide oversight over the program, and take the heat for everyone in the organization. He is, in my opinion, effectively accomplishing these objectives.
The offensive gameplanning is the responsibility of the offensive coordinator and Muir should pay for his ineptitude with his job. However, Haley and Zorn seem to get along very well and seem like-minded. Zorn will make an excellent OC/QB coach for Haley, imo.

bevischief 11-29-2011 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8153539)
Nightfyre's off-season prediction #1:
1) Haley will stay
2) Bill Muir will be fired as OC, Zorn will be promoted to his position
3) Haley will call the plays on game-day
4) Haley will delegate offensive gameplanning to Zorn and his QB. However, he will still have a hand in the process.

What everyone fails to realize, imo, is that Haley is doing his job as head coach. Yes, he makes questionable game management decisions, but this is a skill he can develop over time.
A head coaches job is to provide motivation, provide oversight over the program, and take the heat for everyone in the organization. He is, in my opinion, effectively accomplishing these objectives.
The offensive gameplanning is the responsibility of the offensive coordinator and Muir should pay for his ineptitude with his job. However, Haley and Zorn seem to get along very well and seem like-minded. Zorn will make an excellent OC/QB coach for Haley, imo.

I agree with this. I have a feeling that this is what is going to end happening

CaliforniaChief 11-29-2011 01:13 PM

Speaking of Herm Edwards, I see no bad scenario for him taking the UCLA job.

Predarat 11-29-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8152229)
He wanted Cutler IIRC

vINTe was 3rd on his list.

BigCatDaddy 11-29-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8152865)
OH and let's not forget home town hero.. Chris Tabor!

Nice.

BigMeatballDave 11-29-2011 01:34 PM

That list keeps getting shittier. Do not want.

Larry Coyer is available....

whoman69 11-29-2011 01:36 PM

Frank Gansz Jr

Chiefs Pantalones 11-29-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8152607)
Punt. The best offense is a good defense.

Ugh. Nevermind then. I want a head coach that takes the QB position seriously, would install an attacking, balanced offense and an attacking defense. Who fits the bill?

vailpass 11-29-2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8153883)
That list keeps getting shittier. Do not want.

Larry Coyer is available....

Bring in McKid as HC and Coyer as DC then start Orton at QB. When you guys are done with our sloppy seconds you can do our dishes.

BigMeatballDave 11-29-2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8153539)
Nightfyre's off-season prediction #1:
1) Haley will stay
2) Bill Muir will be fired as OC, Zorn will be promoted to his position
3) Haley will call the plays on game-day
4) Haley will delegate offensive gameplanning to Zorn and his QB. However, he will still have a hand in the process.

What everyone fails to realize, imo, is that Haley is doing his job as head coach. Yes, he makes questionable game management decisions, but this is a skill he can develop over time.
A head coaches job is to provide motivation, provide oversight over the program, and take the heat for everyone in the organization. He is, in my opinion, effectively accomplishing these objectives.
The offensive gameplanning is the responsibility of the offensive coordinator and Muir should pay for his ineptitude with his job. However, Haley and Zorn seem to get along very well and seem like-minded. Zorn will make an excellent OC/QB coach for Haley, imo.

HALEY CANT GET ALONG WITH COACHES! /chiefnj2, Laz and other Planet morons

BigMeatballDave 11-29-2011 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8153898)
Bring in McKid as HC and Coyer as DC then start Orton at QB. When you guys are done with our sloppy seconds you can do our dishes.

LMAO

seaofred 11-29-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8152102)
Here's a suggestion: Antifreeze

I didn't say it was a good name...

The Iron Chief 11-29-2011 02:50 PM

Jeff Fisher: His fires been put out
Kirk Ferentz: Not a good coach
Josh McDaniels: Sucks
Marty Schottenheimer: Personally if he got us to the playoffs and lost a game my heart just couldnt take it.
Regis Philbin: Loud Fiery bring Excitement to the team and he just Wouldn't Take It Anymore!

AustinChief 11-29-2011 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8152863)
What about ...

Rob Chudzinski
Winston Moss
Perry Fewell
Dirk Koetter
Pat Fitzgerald

I actually think some of these would be decent choices... I'd love to see us give Pat Fitzgerald a shot. I can't think of a YOUNG coach in college who has done more with less.

bevischief 11-29-2011 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8152863)
What about ...

Rob Chudzinski
Winston Moss
Perry Fewell
Dirk Koetter
Pat Fitzgerald

and in a few years Will Muschamp.

I would like to hear more about these guys.

AustinChief 11-29-2011 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8154736)
I would like to hear more about these guys.

Jeez! Make me work at it....

Rob Chudzinski - AMAZING TEs coach who was also OC at Miami (Hurricanes not Dolphins) and Cleveland and now Panthers

Winston Moss - Green Bay assistant head coach/inside linebackers talked about a lot but very unproven

Perry Fewell - DC of the Giants, interim head coach of the Bills at one point... also talked about a lot... I'm not sold on him at this point... but he is definitely someone to be considered

Dirk Koetter - OC of the Jags. Former head coach at Boise St and Arizona St. He has done really well in Jacksonville given what he has had to work with.

Pat Fitzgerald - Head coach at Northwestern. YOUNG (37) Routinely gets great production out of some of the WORST recruiting classes in the Big 10 (not his fault.. NW has very high academic standards and is in Chicago.. who the hell would want to go there.. it's a good school but you couldn't have PAID me to go there) His teams out perform their talent level and he has put a number of players into the NFL.

BossChief 11-29-2011 07:56 PM

I wonder what the chances are that Ken Wisenhunt gets the axe in Arizona?

Extra Point 11-29-2011 07:59 PM

"Pound that rock!" /Chuckie

Though we couldn't afford him, that's my pick. With Norv as OC, and Zorn as the QB coach. Crenell keeps his job. **** the cap! Lay it down with management!

Titty Meat 11-29-2011 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8154780)
Jeez! Make me work at it....

Rob Chudzinski - AMAZING TEs coach who was also OC at Miami (Hurricanes not Dolphins) and Cleveland and now Panthers

Winston Moss - Green Bay assistant head coach/inside linebackers talked about a lot but very unproven

Perry Fewell - DC of the Giants, interim head coach of the Bills at one point... also talked about a lot... I'm not sold on him at this point... but he is definitely someone to be considered

Dirk Koetter - OC of the Jags. Former head coach at Boise St and Arizona St. He has done really well in Jacksonville given what he has had to work with.

Pat Fitzgerald - Head coach at Northwestern. YOUNG (37) Routinely gets great production out of some of the WORST recruiting classes in the Big 10 (not his fault.. NW has very high academic standards and is in Chicago.. who the hell would want to go there.. it's a good school but you couldn't have PAID me to go there) His teams out perform their talent level and he has put a number of players into the NFL.

Chudzinski and maybe Moss.

Fewell no thanks.

Koetter sucked at ASU

Fitzgerald I don't think his team is even bowl eligible.

RustShack 11-29-2011 08:15 PM

How about Todd Haley. But it will probably be Pioli's other boy McDaniels(If Haley does get the axe).

But you know what, if McDaniels can do with Orton here like he did in Denver, our offense would be legit. Especially considering he has a lot more here to work with on offense.

AustinChief 11-29-2011 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8154804)
Chudzinski and maybe Moss.

Fewell no thanks.

Koetter sucked at ASU

Fitzgerald I don't think his team is even bowl eligible.

Did you even read what I wrote? MOST people who follow college coaching closely will agree that Fitzgerald is one of the best there is right now. He has ZERO to work with, yet gets production out of them... THAT is what makes a great coach. He's like a young Bill Snyder. You aren't going to win a national championship with the talent you get at Northwestern.

I'm guessing that this is your first year to pay any attention to the Big Ten at all. Those of us who follow it closely know how good Pat Fitzgerald is.

Oh and didn't Pat take a MUCH less talented Wildcat team to Lincoln and beat your boys?

You can't say he isn't a great coach just because he has Div II talent but has to play in the Big 10.

O.city 11-29-2011 08:31 PM

I want Mack Brown. Or Bob Stoops.


Maybe Bobby Petrino?

AustinChief 11-29-2011 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8154851)
I want Mack Brown. Or Bob Stoops.


Maybe Bobby Petrino?

MACK BROWN???? He is a complete hack whose only talent is in recruiting. He is one of the WORST game day coaches ever to have a job at ANY level.

Petrino? meh

Stoops is a disciple of Snyder's and someone who I couldn't complain about. There is also talk that he may be ready to make the leap.

RustShack 11-29-2011 08:51 PM

How about someone good like Bill Parcells, Dick Vermiel, or Vince Lombardi.

O.city 11-29-2011 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8154857)
MACK BROWN???? He is a complete hack whose only talent is in recruiting. He is one of the WORST game day coaches ever to have a job at ANY level.

Petrino? meh

Stoops is a disciple of Snyder's and someone who I couldn't complain about. There is also talk that he may be ready to make the leap.

Sense the sarcasm. No way I want any of those ****ers.

AustinChief 11-29-2011 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8154927)
Sense the sarcasm. No way I want any of those ****ers.

my bad.. at first I thought it was sarcasm.. but then I saw Stoops.. I don't see him as a half bad candidate at all actually... at that point in your post I got confused!

keg in kc 11-29-2011 09:13 PM

Martyocre Schottenheimer.

In 2011.

Christ.

Hammock Parties 11-29-2011 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8154937)
Martyocre Schottenheimer.

In 2011.

Christ.

o:-)

Put that in there just to troll you people.

Titty Meat 11-29-2011 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8154848)
Did you even read what I wrote? MOST people who follow college coaching closely will agree that Fitzgerald is one of the best there is right now. He has ZERO to work with, yet gets production out of them... THAT is what makes a great coach. He's like a young Bill Snyder. You aren't going to win a national championship with the talent you get at Northwestern.

I'm guessing that this is your first year to pay any attention to the Big Ten at all. Those of us who follow it closely know how good Pat Fitzgerald is.

Oh and didn't Pat take a MUCH less talented Wildcat team to Lincoln and beat your boys?

You can't say he isn't a great coach just because he has Div II talent but has to play in the Big 10.

ROFL Young Bill Snyder

Because I don't agree with you must mean I didn't follow Big Ten football til this year *dismissive jerk off motion*. Gary Barnett didn't have much at Northwestern and took them to the Rose Bowl. Sure as **** didn't mean he was an NFL coach neither is Fitzgerald.

Northwestern beating Nebraska had nothing to do with Fitzgearld you must not have followed them until the last few weeks. Persa wasn't doing much got injured and then Cain Coulter came in and moved the ball but it wasn't like Nebraska was playing inspired.

Might as well put Paul Rhodes on your list then too.

O.city 11-29-2011 09:22 PM

Mike McCarthy?

AustinChief 11-29-2011 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8154944)
ROFL Young Bill Snyder

Because I don't agree with you must mean I didn't follow Big Ten football til this year *dismissive jerk off motion*. Gary Barnett didn't have much at Northwestern and took them to the Rose Bowl. Sure as **** didn't mean he was an NFL coach neither is Fitzgerald.

Northwestern beating Nebraska had nothing to do with Fitzgearld you must not have followed them until the last few weeks. Persa wasn't doing much got injured and then Cain Coulter came in and moved the ball but it wasn't like Nebraska was playing inspired.

Might as well put Paul Rhodes on your list then too.

Wow, I am normally not so dismissive.. but you REALLY don't know jack shit about this. I can find you dozens of articles talking about how great a coach Pat Fitz is. Your example of Barnett is a piss poor stupid one.. Barnett WAS considered a great NFL coaching candidate until all the scandal.

You really are talking out of your ass on this one...

Also, I'm not sure what you are laughing at with the young Bill Snyder reference.. are you saying that reference is unfounded or are you claiming Snyder isn't a great coach and someone to which you hold other people up to for comparisons?

Paul Rhodes may eventually be on that level... he is currently a big ? BUT he has an advantage over Fitz... he can recruit morons... the academic standards at ISU are not even in the same BALLPARK as NW.

You are failing to realize how amazingly hard it is to make a team like NW competitive... you may as well try to get Dartmouth or Cornell to be relevant.

Titty Meat 11-29-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8154980)
Wow, I am normally not so dismissive.. but you REALLY don't know jack shit about this. I can find you dozens of articles talking about how great a coach Pat Fitz is. Your example of Barnett is a piss poor stupid one.. Barnett WAS considered a great NFL coaching candidate until all the scandal.

You really are talking out of your ass on this one...

Also, I'm not sure what you are laughing at with the young Bill Snyder reference.. are you saying that reference is unfounded or are you claiming Snyder isn't a great coach and someone to which you hold other people up to for comparisons?

Paul Rhodes may eventually be on that level... he is currently a big ? BUT he has an advantage over Fitz... he can recruit morons... the academic standards at ISU are not even in the same BALLPARK as NW.

You are failing to realize how amazingly hard it is to make a team like NW competitive... you may as well try to get Dartmouth or Cornell to be relevant.

We're talking about the coach that lost 5 games in a row this year and hasn't won a bowl game right? Yeah I'd love to see an NFL team hire Pat Fitzgerald.

AustinChief 11-29-2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8154985)
We're talking about the coach that lost 5 games in a row this year and hasn't won a bowl game right? Yeah I'd love to see an NFL team hire Pat Fitzgerald.

Thank god people like you don't get hired to run NFL teams... or evaluate talent. You lack the ability to see the big picture and understand subtleties.

Luckily, there are plenty of people who do appreciate talent like Fitz .. one reason he was given an extension to 2020 at NW.

Of course, to you... all of these writers are idiots like me, right?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...llege-football

http://www.toledoblade.com/College/2...-football.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...llege-football

AustinChief 11-29-2011 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8154985)
We're talking about the coach that lost 5 games in a row this year and hasn't won a bowl game right? Yeah I'd love to see an NFL team hire Pat Fitzgerald.

yes and 3 of those 5 were top 25 teams... and two of his bowl game losses were in OT to tough teams.. Missouri and Auburn...

He is a consensus top 10 coach among college coaches... combine that with his youth and he makes for a very enticing NFL candidate.

Mecca 11-29-2011 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8155040)
yes and 3 of those 5 were top 25 teams... and two of his bowl game losses were in OT to tough teams.. Missouri and Auburn...

He is a consensus top 10 coach among college coaches... combine that with his youth and he makes for a very enticing NFL candidate.

Also not like he's working with elite talents at Northwestern. If Haley is fired I'm pretty sure Pioli will try to get Kirk Ferentz, but I'm sure that's been mentioned before I just didn't read the entire thread.

Titty Meat 11-29-2011 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8155026)
Thank god people like you don't get hired to run NFL teams... or evaluate talent. You lack the ability to see the big picture and understand subtleties.

Luckily, there are plenty of people who do appreciate talent like Fitz .. one reason he was given an extension to 2020 at NW.

Of course, to you... all of these writers are idiots like me, right?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...llege-football

http://www.toledoblade.com/College/2...-football.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...llege-football

ROFL The Bleacher Report?

I never once called you an idiot. Sure he might be a good college coach somewhere else but he's nowhere near NFL ready.

Chief_For_Life58 11-29-2011 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8155040)
yes and 3 of those 5 were top 25 teams... and two of his bowl game losses were in OT to tough teams.. Missouri and Auburn...

He is a consensus top 10 coach among college coaches... combine that with his youth and he makes for a very enticing NFL candidate.

However he might be a good coach, I want one of these guys that already has a SHIT ton of nfl head coach experience.

AustinChief 11-29-2011 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8155054)
ROFL The Bleacher Report?

I never once called you an idiot. Sure he might be a good college coach somewhere else but he's nowhere near NFL ready.

yes two of those are from Bleacher Report.. which is less then reputable... but I just grabbed the first 3 I saw without wanting to take anymore time on an argument that seems to be going nowhere.

He is more than a GOOD college coach.. he is top 10 and I think he is worth giving a shot on the NFL level... although I could see him trying his hand as a DC somewhere first.. but I really think he will be a better head coach then a coordinator.

AustinChief 11-29-2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 8155065)
However he might be a good coach, I want one of these guys that already has a SHIT ton of nfl head coach experience.

And that is a valid argument... if you want a young coach with a huge upside but a huge risk... go with someone like Fitz.. but yeah if that isn't what you want then I can see why he wouldn't be on your radar.

Mecca 11-29-2011 10:18 PM

If the coach is told he has to have Cassel you aren't getting a coach with NFL head coaching experience.

Chief_For_Life58 11-29-2011 10:23 PM

anyone who has a brain knows cassel cannot play nfl qb at the top level. He is a shitty nfl qb and average at best. Either way hes gonna be on our roster next year..hopefully he isnt starting

Okie_Apparition 11-29-2011 10:44 PM

NFL Live did a hot seat segment
Norv, Reid, Spags, Sparano, Caldwell, Morris got a mention
No Haley

BryanBusby 11-29-2011 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8154780)
Rob Chudzinski - AMAZING TEs coach who was also OC at Miami (Hurricanes not Dolphins) and Cleveland and now Panthers

Chudzinski is a interesting candidate, but I'd rather not. He needs more time to season as a coordinator, and I'd rather them not pluck another one year wonder offensive dude.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 8151712)
I like him but he's not been consistent like Rex or Schwartz as DCs. I could be wrong.

You are very wrong. Compare the talent he has worked with to Rex or Schwartz, and also consider he's been getting very good results in a difficult division. Unlike Haley, this dude is ready to be a leader.

Another plus, he already has experience dealing with a cheap ass owner. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8153539)
2) Bill Muir will be fired as OC, Zorn will be promoted to his position
3) Haley will call the plays on game-day
4) Haley will delegate offensive gameplanning to Zorn and his QB. However, he will still have a hand in the process.

If this is actually Todds plan, he needs to be ****ing fired the moment they return from Denver.

Rausch 11-30-2011 02:14 AM

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Bill Muir


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