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I only mentioned Flynn because trading for backups seems to be Pioli's MO. |
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Just FYI. |
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I wouldn't mind signing Flynn as a backup or to start at the beginning of next year, but we obviously need to draft our own ****ing QB. And not in the 6th damn round, either. |
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If "ifs and buts" were candies and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.
I am so sick and tired of all these "what if" threads. |
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I know the FO would be ecstatic if the QBOTF is not there. That relieves them of the pressure of doing what they do not want to do and that is draft a 1st round QB. They can then go into the season with Cassel, Orton, and Stanzi and "hope" one of them is successful enough to quiet the fanbase.
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you can shove flynn up stanzi's ass and throw them both off a bridge...
anything that is not drafting a 1rd round QB next year is a complete and total ****ing disaster... |
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Granted, it was one game and it was the preseason, but I thought Flynn looked awful vs the Chiefs.
I expect we'll sign him. |
The Chiefs had better do whatever they have to do to make sure they come away with a QBOTF this coming year. The QB play has been so bad this year, they have no choice but to draft a legitimate replacement. We'll have a shot at Matt Barkley or RGIII. I'd be perfectly happy with either one.
If for some reason we don't draft a QB, we need a NTOTF. I haven't watched enough college football this year to know if there are any legit 1st round NT's worth taking. Also, drafting Trent Richardson sounds interesting. He would be a great compliment to Charles. If we end up trading down(which wouldn't surprise me at all), we could use another pass rushing OLB, a beastly MLB, or a starting guard/center/RT. |
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This team has to do everything possible to get a top QB prospect in the first round. Anything else will be unacceptable. This team also needs a nose tackle but with the return of Berry and if you put a decent QB on this team that can actually move the chains a bit to give some breaks to the defense, well a nose tackle as a top 10 pick is a NO NO. In the second round though, that would be perfect. |
Charles was only good because he played a easy schedule anyway/trolling
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Couple things.
Tannehill, Foles, or Jones. No thanks. Atleast not until round 2 or 3. I think Charles will eventually return to what he was. By the time next season starts it will pretty much be a year since he went down. With the technology and rehab they will go thru I think it will be fine. I like RGIII or Barkley. They both are football guys. However, I don't really care if they are good guys or boy scouts like this front office wants. These guys are professional athletes who play on the team I like. As long as they are throwing touchdowns and leading us to playoff wins and Sb contention I don't care if they are assholes. Just win baby. |
i would deal all 7 picks to get Luck or RG3. Seriously. Those other 6 picks are only going to get us 2 or 3 mid level scrubs anyway to play on a team that will continue to suck without a franchise QB for another decade
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We just need to suck the rest of this year.
Get RGIII or Barkley, draft true fan the rest of the way out. Get Berry, Charles and Mo back. Go from there. This roster isn't as bad as some on here wanna say. |
Trade.
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there is no what if, there will be, we cant even score a ****ing touch down. we will move down in the draft.
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We need depth. Can never have too much depth. Couple of our holes this year are on IR so hopefully they come back next year healthy. The rookies from this year and last years draft class continue to grow. There are a few older guys but overall this is a pretty young roster. |
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Who you endorsing for the pick, what is it Omega now?
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RGIII
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Barkley rg3 foles cousins Moore. Any of those 5 would do.
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I am anxious to see what happens if we are in a spot to draft RGIII. He actually seems to fit Pioli's profile for drafting a player.
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look a rookie qb is not coming in and giving u a winning season so everyone stop crying about drafting a qb
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WE have to draft a qb. Otherwise we are spinning our wheels. |
I am all for drafting a qb but it needs to be the right qb. I don't want to be like Minnesota last year and reach for a qb like ponder. Now this year they will be in position to grab Barkley but likely won't since they reached for ponder last year.
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We are talking about filling the most important position in team sports for 12 to 15 years. I bet those Colt fans are still pissed about that losing season in 1999. |
If we draft a qb in the first, he will be surrounded by a more talented team than any of the first rounders from last year are.
It's time. |
I am starting to see mock drafts with tannehill going in the mid first round. There could be a run on qb early. We really need to get ahead of Miami, washington, and Seattle
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It's wash and miami we need to win a few more games. The Seahawks should beat the Cardinals or Rams (sorry Rams fan, Rams are really banged up right now).
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Plain and simple, the Chiefs ALWAYS pass up a great opportunity to draft a superstar potential QB. They've passed on John Elway, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, and Brett Favre when each of them could have easily been snatched up in the first round of the drafts they were in by the Chiefs. Problem is, the Chiefs' ball club are extremely bull-headed in this area and refuse to kick the habit of signing career back ups that sucked with other squads. Matt Cassell is the 3rd "so-called" QBOTF on the Chiefs since 1998 to have failed to meet the team's standards of what they look for in a QB of the Future. Elvis Grbac and Trent Green were the other two failed QBOTF's.
The Chiefs need a head coach that has the leadership of a guy like Bill Cowher or Don Shula, and an Offensive Coordinator that has multiple offensive strategies in case the first couple of strategies end up failing the team. And, they need a GM that has the enthusiasm of Carl Peterson, but is bold enough to think outside the box and give younger players at core offensive positions (QB, WR, RB) a fighting chance for longer than a year. |
We dont need a Cowher as coach, not at all, we need a front office and a Head Coach that want to TRY to draft that franchise qb. Once that is filled (yes, i know its not easy) or at least take a shot at filling it, the rest will fall into place.
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TBH, Pioli has yet to be given the opportunity to draft a QB with what people would say has franchise potential.
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Cowher did take a chance on Ben Rothlisberger. Even though he has yet to win a Superbowl MVP honor, he did help the Steelers get to 2 Superbowls, the first with Cowher as Head Coach.
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You may think Trent Green was "failed", but he was more than good enough to get us to a SB. |
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Its too bad we had Cassel....I bet we called and he LOLd. BTW to those that aren't aware of Clements history in KC... Clements was a quarterback for us awhile ago and was actually a coach for us not too long ago. QB coach in 2000 So, he has history with the organization. |
WHAT WE NEED IS CLARK TO SELL THE TEAM TO A GUY WITH BALLS.OTHER WISE ITS GOING TO BE THE SAME WALMART MENTALITY .REAL TALK
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Cassel is Pioli's pet. |
You do what you have to do to get RGIII. After Luck and Griffin, it's a bunch of average, Barkley included.
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Shit, just about every single one of these guys' pets have been EPIC FAILS
Mike Brown Tyler Palko Mike Vrabel Leonard Pope Anthony Becht Matt Cassel Jereme Urban |
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We passed on John Elway. I didn't know that we drafted ahead of the first overall pick. |
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Also in 1979 we maneuvered to get ahead of the 49ers to get Clemson QB Steve Fuller whom they coveted. The had to settle in the 3rd round (the end of 3rd actually) for this QB named Joe Montana. Not quite a 6th rounder like Brady, but many teams passed on Montana. |
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Well, except for the fact that you're are an illiterate who posts dumbassery. But other than that, no reason at all. |
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Like it takes some ****ing rocket scientist to develop a franchise QB. You really think that Mike Mularkey developed Matt Ryan? You probably couldn't name the QB coaches that Drew Brees, or Aaron Rodgers have had either. |
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To the older fans on here: What was the fan reaction when the Chiefs selected Todd Blackledge? Were the hopes generally high? Were there people speculating that he would be a major bust? How did people feel about the pick before Blackledge blacked out?
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I wanted nothing to do with Blackledge. With no chance at Elway I wanted Jim Kelly or Tony Eason. Marino had a bad senior season so it was a red flag for me. Madden's mock predicted the Chiefs to pick Blackledge and I get a feeling that was good enough for the Chiefs front office. I'm still hurting about that pick, bypassing Kelly, Eason, and (in retrospect) Marino. |
Really there is no other position to even consider where we are picking. Although I wouldn't be upset if Kalil slipped to us, even though I'm fine with Albert at LT. Also I'm very high on Trent Richardson. I think he will surpass AP's career. Burfict may of been in the conversation in Belchers spot but I think its safe to say hes ****ed that up this season.
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Its just time to take a chance. If we do and it fails, then maybe we get really lucky and Stanzi or even Orton works out. We can't afford to take that chance. To me its a much bigger gamble to pass on a QB or not trade up and let Orton/Stanzi/Cassel lead the group of players we have locked up. To me the question of which is a bigger gamble isn't even close. |
I have spent a lot of time watching videos of Luck, Barkley and RG3 lately. I have watched Luck all year and watched Barkley in the Stanford vs. USC game. Not to mention, an array of youtube vids. Anyways, I may be in the minority here, but the one who impresses me the most out of all three of them is RG3. Luck is dynamite for sure as well... I don't think anyone in the right mind would question that, but Barkley.... he seems to be slow on his feet, have a slow release and overthrow his receivers a lot. I watched Landry Jones vs. Texas, in which OU killed them, but to be honest.... something about the guy reminded me a lot of Cassel so I didn't want to watch him for the remainder of the year. I'd be very upset if the Chiefs ended up with him.
I am calling hype on Barkley and Jones and yes I am aware of Barkley's 39/7 TD/Int... due to the eye test, I'm still not convinced. |
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Barkley has sold me a lot more as of late. To me its really close right now and I would be happy with either one of them. Reality is, that even if the schedule plays out in our favor across the league, we may be taking the 3rd QB in this draft. Not only can a few teams that need a QB finish ahead of us, but a trade is always an option for teams like MIA or WAS. I doubt Pioli trades up for a QB. We can't even be sure we take one at all. Even if we do want a QB the choice may be made for us. I just hope we have a shot at one of them. |
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Charles = Priest Same deal. We need other players. |
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Trent Green wasn't a failed QB for us. He was actually very good. It was the horseshit defense that ****ed us. And Bill Cowher? Get the **** outta here. 1 SB ring in 15 ****ing years.... No coaches get 15 years anymore, and they shouldn't. |
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