Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 8158987)

"Super Bowl" no

NFL Championship(which is what the Super Bowl is), yes

Don Shula did accomplish this.

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 8158627)

And to expand, only two coaches (Vermiel and Parcells) have ever taken two different teams to the Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8159631)

You're forgetting Mike Holmgren (GB and Sea) and Don Shula (Colts and Mia).

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8158343)

Rivers isn't Ben Roethlisberger. Actually not even close. Ben has ice in his veins.

Rivers has vinegar and water in his...

Marty didn't work in SD so they bring in his clone. Good idea.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8158276)

This is a rumor that I heard on the radio (XX1090) this morning. Supposedly this rumor has some merit. The key points that I picked up on:

1. Cowher is interested in the taking over the Chargers as long as AJ Smith is fired along with Turner.

2. He wants full control and wants to bring in his own personnel men (obviously, right?)

3. He wants to go to SD because they have a legit QB, something other teams that made him offers didn't have.

4. Apparently he liked Rivers coming out of the draft more than Ruthlessraper.


Basically, Rivers is a huge draw for Cowher.

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 8159924)

I'd tell Cowher the fug off about AJ Smith. That dude can draft talent. Otherwise I'd tell Cowher he can hire his own staff and that Smith will have no say in the coaching staff.

otherwise, piss off mug face.

Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 8159932)

Tired of seeing this. AJ Smith is an average drafter at best.

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 8159945)

When did AJ Smith take over as GM, anyone know?

Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 8159987)

2003.

He has the #1 pick in the '04 draft, and takes the obvious Eli Manning and gets a kings ransom for him.
'05- Shawne "roidman" Merriman... Good for 2-3 years before he gets busted for roids. Hasn't done anything since
'06- Antonio Cromartie... Turned out to be a decent corner. Left the team after 4 years
'07- Craig "Buster" Davis... nickname suits him well
'08- Antoine Cason... another decent corner... we got Flowers in the second round who is much better.
'09- Larry English.. Bust
'10- Ryan Mathews.. Not looking good
'11 Liegeut (sp?) Too early to tell.

Sure he has found some gems like Michael Turner and Antonio Gates, but overall he is really overrated.

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 8160030)

his 2004 and 2005 drafts were exceptional. 2004 got Rivers and Turner and some other solid players. 2005 was really good with Merrimam, Castillo, Jackson and Sproles.

The rest have been nothing special but not complete crap. He drafted Whitehurst and then turned around and traded him for a 2nd. He drafted Weddle and Naana who are solid. He drafted Cromartie who has talent but just doesnt apply himself, Cason is a starting CB for the too. Other players who have contributed are English, Vasquez, Mathews, Butler...

IMHO he's by far the best GM in the AFCW when it comes to drafting talent.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8160041)

Not even close.

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 8160054)

this coming from a kc fan. Oh the irony.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8160066)

The reason SD is where they are now is because he hasn't drafted any difference makers in the last 4 or 5 years and the ones he had before are old and run down.

IMO as much shit as he got for some of it, the Raiders have drafted really well the last few.

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 8160107)

Or, Norv Turner just sucks? True, he hasn't scored big like in 2004-5 but still, he's done a pretty good job.

The faiders have sucked bad and have been drafting way higher. Hell, even a blind squirrel finds and nut once in a while.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8159235)

I don't think he want's a big stage.

I think he likes taking the "little guy" up to the big stage. He's a Pitt/Cleveland guy.

He's an underdog fan and quit in his prime "for family."

I could see him taking a KC/Titans/Bucs type gig. Perhaps even a Chicago.

I don't think he want's any part of dealing with what being in the NY/NE area media means...

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8158276)

This is a rumor that I heard on the radio (XX1090) this morning. Supposedly this rumor has some merit. The key points that I picked up on:

1. Cowher is interested in the taking over the Chargers as long as AJ Smith is fired along with Turner.

2. He wants full control and wants to bring in his own personnel men (obviously, right?)

3. He wants to go to SD because they have a legit QB, something other teams that made him offers didn't have.

4. Apparently he liked Rivers coming out of the draft more than Ruthlessraper.


Basically, Rivers is a huge draw for Cowher.

But we have Tyler Palko, Bill.

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 8160107)

Or, Norv Turner just sucks? True, he hasn't scored big like in 2004-5 but still, he's done a pretty good job.

The faiders have sucked bad and have been drafting way higher. Hell, even a blind squirrel finds and nut once in a while.

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 8160030)

his 2004 and 2005 drafts were exceptional. 2004 got Rivers and Turner and some other solid players. 2005 was really good with Merrimam, Castillo, Jackson and Sproles.

The rest have been nothing special but not complete crap. He drafted Whitehurst and then turned around and traded him for a 2nd. He drafted Weddle and Naana who are solid. He drafted Cromartie who has talent but just doesnt apply himself, Cason is a starting CB for the too. Other players who have contributed are Vasquez, Mathews, Butler...

IMHO he's by far the best GM in the AFCW when it comes to drafting talent.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8160196)

Are you kidding me? AJ's drafts post Marty Era have been ****ing terrible. I would argue that they have been the worst in the AFCW.

BUSTer Davis.....1st rnd draft pick

Larry English....Another Bust of a 1st Rnd Draft pick

Ryan Mathews.....Shaping up to be ANOTHER 1st rnd bust.

Even Guys like Eric Weddle have been underachievers.

The guy has done nothing in the last 3-4 years, and it's finally caught up to the team.


Actually, you just don't know what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8158286)

Maybe it will take him 15 years in San Diego to win a super bowl as well.

Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 8160624)

Except Cohwer already has a franchise qb. He learned late in his career that was the real way to do it.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8160895)

Rivers isn't a franchise QB. .

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8160901)

Amazing how 1 bad year changes someone's perception of a player.

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8158420)

Rivers is still head and shoulders above any other QB in this division. He's just having a down year.

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8160424)

This thread reminds me that it's a very good idea to avoid blind squirrels whenever possible.

FAX

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8158276)

4. Apparently he liked Rivers coming out of the draft more than Ruthlessraper.


Basically, Rivers is a huge draw for Cowher.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8161020)

To be fair, I've always thought this of him. I've never thought he was a franchise QB and took quite a bit of heat for that opinion over the years...

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 8161119)

I agree too, he has talent (which is obvious) but he's never had the "it" factor that closes the deal. He's got tons of talent around him and that helps cloud the fact that he's just a meat head.

I wouldn't want River's on this team if he payed the chiefs to play.

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8161168)

Really? Cassel vs Rivers and you're taking Cassel?

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8161168)

Really? Cassel vs Rivers and you're taking Cassel?

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8161168)

Really? Cassel vs Rivers and you're taking Cassel?