According to Football Outsiders, the Jags had the #2 ranked defense as far as efficiency coming into this week.

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

Never read that.

You missed it Fax. You were on one of you hiatuses. It was EPIC.
Hopefully someone will pull it up for you.
Dude brought a battering on himself to likes of which I have never seen, and then he disappeared.
Right before the 2010 season, he said his first move as GM would be to cut waste of space Hali.
And the hot chick he was bangin stuff belongs in the HOC.

You have watched the game right?

Jags D has 3 more sacks than the Chiefs D. Lets not pretend they have some all wordly pass rush. And they are down to what? 3rd string right now?

They have also given up the 5th fewest points/game and the 4th fewest yards/game.

I think they were recruiting off the street at half time.

Yeah, I've watched the whole game. They are getting dominated. Going into this game though, they have been a very good D.

Apples and oranges; if they were playing the game on paper then they would probably win hands down.

John Chick is actually a decent pass rusher and so is Jeremy Mincey.

Gaither played well.

I have no idea what this post is supposed to mean. I'm sorry that your initial post in this thread was reeruned. The Jaguars actually have a good defense, and the Chargers dismantled it tonight.

Muir's talent evaluations should have him fired immediately.

Who cuts a tackle late in the year? Good ****ing jesus.

Chalk this one up for the Gaithers.

I feel badly for that Gabbert guy, though. He looks a whole lot like one of our quarterbacks.

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They were missing 3 starters including 2 defensive ends
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Muir doesn't cut anyone.

Pioli is responsible for this.

You are boring now.

Muir mumbled some amazing crap about Gaither in some interview last week, though ... something about Gaither not being athletic enough. Then he nodded off for a minute.

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Now?

Don't worry though, Mr. jd1020. I cast fie upon him awhile ago, so now he's all covered with fie.

Plus, I've been giving his voodoo doll a major work-over. So, by this point, his groin area has to be causing him nine kinds of grief.

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like it wasn't already?LMAO

Are you mentally ill?

Truthfully, it's that kind of season.

NFL fans throughout the world are scratching their heads and killing kittens and making little statuettes out of mud that sit cross-legged and have giant breasts.

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What about that post do you disagree with?

Please point me in the direction of this brutality.

I admit, I overreacted about Gaither. He did have a few hold later on, but then again, his first start... Still upset, I bet he grades out well, and is 10x the tackle Richardson is...

Against the Jags 3rd string DE...
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All of which doesn't matter if hes a lazyass who refuses to play RT. There could have been a lot going on that we weren't aware of here. But please, everyone, assume whatever lens you view the world through is omniscient.

This may be the case, but do think that Richardson is a better option than Gaither? Do you think Mims or whoever that white tackle we have is is a better swing tackle than Gaither?

Eh. It's a wash. Gaither always seemed to **** up when he played. He only played a few plays, but he made a shit load of mistakes in them.
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Sawhorse > Richardson

Orange construction barrel > Richardson

Not this shit again

Albert is fine at LT. Albert should absolutely start over Gaither. And Albert should absolutely not play Guard.

Ok....

I'm just saying.... if we absolutely couldn't get luck or rg3, and Kalil fell to us, I would be willing to cave to the LT crew.

Albert isn't great but he's plenty good enough.

He was kicking Harrisons ass.

All I'm saying is he is decent. Period. He's not good, or great, he's decent. 5 sacks and 8 penalties through 12 games.

In not quite 4 yrs. he's given up 26.5 sacks and committed 26 penalties.

I agree, if Luck, Barkley and RG3 are gone by our pick, I'd go a different position altogether. I'm probably not going LT. More likely Trent Richardson, ILB, or NT.

Richardson will go in the top 10 also.
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Why would this team spend a top 12 pick on a RB?

Does it matter? The only reasonable explanation for Gaither not at least getting a shot at Richardson's snaps would be if he was a full blown cripple.

It's not like he needs to have the game of the century against the steel curtain to justify getting on the field in place of Richardson.

Seeing him able to play a complete game without completey shitting himself is enough to say our FO/coaches made an inexcusable mistake.

Hell, if the guy goes on IR tomorrow, he still did enough to make me think he should have seen time on the field as our RT.

If Charles' knee is ****ed, and it's BPA, why not?

All the QBs might be gone.

I'd do it if the big 3 QBs are gone.
Even if Charles comes back like he was, that would be a great duo.

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Running backs are a dime a dozen.

Chris Polk or Montee Ball will be ballers and be there in round 2/3

That explains us trotting out Jones, McLackluster, and Battle.

I would trade down in that case.
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Or a DL from LSU. We've never done that...

Yep
exactly and if the chiefs drafted our OBOTF he would ride the pine and Haley would still play Palko.

agree......... Ravens didn't want him, Raiders didn't want him, did nothng for the Chiefs and got cut. He is working the last 5 games for a pay check.
He was playing against a pretty weak defense last night.
I don't care about Gaither

FYP.

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You think it was Muir's call? Muir is still trying to find the on/off switch on his head set that he was given in preseason game 1. He's not the guy cutting players.

Seriously. Who gives a half a **** about an unmotivated lazy turd been cut all over?

I don't get this. Shouldn't Cassel going to the IR list opened up a roster spot? Or did we fill that with someone else?

this is very simple. He didn't fit Haley and Piolis "way". Same as Bernard Pollard. That is my biggest beef with this front office and head coach, is that they will jettison a player if they don't think his attitude meshes completely with what they want, regardless of talent. It is the same model that Pitt has. Look at the players up there. If they don't give 100% all the time to the team "way", they aren't there.

He was cut from Baltimore. He was passed on by Oakland. They didn't cut him.

The Chiefs had him. The Chiefs offensive line SUCKS. They cut him and he is starting and playing well in SD 7 days after he was cut.

Given that Haley has continued to support and talk up Palko. Given that Haley let JC ride the bench and started LJ.

Then, we have Waters and Haley getting into it when he first arrived. Waters was let go this year.

Gaither is just another example of a player who is clearly more talented than a starter that was not given a chance.

Was he even cut by Baltimore? I thought they just let him walk in free agency. I'm thinking we're the only team that has actually cut him. But, not every team can be as set along the offensive line as we are.

and this has happened a lot since Haley's been here.
another example of why he's not qualified to be a HC.

Gaither has always been known to be a bit of a slacker and not the hardest worker in practice. A few years ago he was a very good tackle for the Ravens, but they grew tired of his work habits and constant "injuries".

He's kind of like Haynesworth, a player with natural talent to play well, but a guy who doesn't really love the game and all that comes with it.

I can't really fault KC for cutting a guy who has a known history of being really lazy and missing lots of practice time. Is he better than Richardson, yes - when he wants to be. This season is a waste anyway, so move on and don't reward a non-team player that might have a negative effect on Hudson or some other younger guys.

Running backs also have some of the most volatile levels of production and some of the shortest shelf-lives in the NFL. Coupled with the fact that there are almost always some sleepers deeper in the draft, it doesn't make sense from a value perspective to draft a runningback really anywhere in the top 20 in my mind.

Overreaction Planet again.

Yeah, but Pollard sucks.
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It has? Like when?
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three that come to mind:

starting LJ over Charles.

starting T Jones over Charles

starting Palko over Stanzi

Starting Cassell over [Insert Name]

Those are the only 3 that come to mind? Three instances (well 2 because the 2nd one is BS) constitutes as ” happening too much”?
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the OLine, i know there has to be better linemen on the Roster than BR

There isn't.


Who knew that all you had to do to get chiefs planet to cream their shorts was to have an above average game against a 3rd stringer.
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then there's a problem.

Yeah and Gaither wasn't the solution to that problem.
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based on his play with the Chargers last night i beg to differ.

...against a 3rd string DE.
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I would say a DL from Alabama since they actually play a 3-4.

It did which was filled by Orton. Gaither's spot was filled by Mims.

ROFL You've got to be shitting me. You guys are nuts getting bent out of shape over his play last night.

What about Colbert, someone said he was released to make room for someone else.

i'm just saying Haley should have shuffled to OLine to get the best talent on the field.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it practice Tuesday through Friday.

and Practice helps BR?

Right Tackle is not a position worth acting like toddlers over.

Yeah, we've got a shitty one, but it's not like it's a difficult position to fill.

i agree but before the Chiefs get a Real QB under center it needs to be filled.