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Chief Roundup 12-12-2011 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8194575)
As much as I hate it, Cowher is a very, very real option here.

At least from what I've been told.

Clark leans on Marty a lot. Apparently, Marty has been telling him for months that Haley is a garbage HC.

Hmm LaCanfora, Lombardi, and so on think that Cowher is not headed anywhere unless he has full control and the team has or is in a position to draft a franchise QB.
If Clark is talking to Marty that would tell me that Clark and Pioli are not on the same page either. JMO

Frankie 12-12-2011 12:18 PM

I'd like a young and coming assistant not named Josh McDaniels.

That said, I did not vote "other." The only one on the list polled I could accept is Ferentz. An this comes from a Cyclone fan.

The Bad Guy 12-12-2011 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8194640)
Hmm LaCanfora, Lombardi, and so on think that Cowher is not headed anywhere unless he has full control and the team has or is in a position to draft a franchise QB.
If Clark is talking to Marty that would tell me that Clark and Pioli are not on the same page either. JMO

Clark pretty much worships the ground Pioli walks on. But he's had a long-standing relationship with Marty. He has bounced things off him for a long, long time.

Cowher is also very close with the Hunt family. Do I think he'd end up here, not likely, but I think it's a very real option.

Chief Roundup 12-12-2011 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 8194618)
For those claiming this is a shitty list, you fukcing check "other" to opt out! That's, of course, after you're done doing the new jack swing from my nutz.

Of course a person could just make a more accurate list. Yeah your nuts might get a swing...at with a knife that is LOL

FloridaMan88 12-12-2011 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8194654)
I'd like a young and coming assistant not named Josh McDaniels.

That said, I did not vote "other." The only one on the list polled I could accept is Ferentz. An this comes from a Cyclone fan.

The Chiefs tried the "young and upcoming assistant" with Todd Haley... FAIL.

The Chiefs need someone with head coaching experience who can stand up to Fat Scott's brain dead personnel decisions.

There is needs to be a balance of power and a checks and balance system that wasn't there the past 3 years.

Someone who can stand up during the offseason and say... "We have cap room, Barry Richardson is shit... SIGN a right tackle".

Rausch 12-12-2011 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8194575)
As much as I hate it, Cowher is a very, very real option here.

At least from what I've been told.

Clark leans on Marty a lot. Apparently, Marty has been telling him for months that Haley is a garbage HC.

Cowher is the best option.

Not only can the guy evaluate talent but he can "coach up" a team.

That's where you take a bunch of guys and get them to play above their level...

htismaqe 12-12-2011 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 8194694)
The Chiefs tried the "young and upcoming assistant" with Todd Haley... FAIL.

The Chiefs need someone with head coaching experience who can stand up to Fat Scott's brain dead personnel decisions.

There is needs to be a balance of power and a checks and balance system that wasn't there the past 3 years.

Someone who can stand up during the offseason and say... "We have cap room, Barry Richardson is shit... SIGN a right tackle".

That's just not gonna happen.

Johnny Vegas 12-12-2011 12:59 PM

Can Pioli be an option?

gblowfish 12-12-2011 01:00 PM

Where's Craig T Nelson on this list?
Where's Gene Hackman?
Where's Al Pacino?
Where's Frank Caliendo???

Johnny Vegas 12-12-2011 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8194932)
Where's Craig T Nelson on this list?
Where's Gene Hackman?
Where's Al Pacino?
Where's Frank Caliendo???

Ray Liotta?

pr_capone 12-12-2011 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8194932)
Where's Craig T Nelson on this list?

Old college retread. If we are going for a Screamin' Eagle... we gotta go Dauber.

TEX 12-12-2011 01:06 PM

1. Cowher

2. Fisher

3. Gruden

DaveNull 12-12-2011 01:06 PM

Who are these people voting for Jeff Fisher? I'd rather bring Herm back.

Johnny Vegas 12-12-2011 01:07 PM

Romeo

Rain Man 12-12-2011 01:07 PM

I'm depressed.

TEX 12-12-2011 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 8194694)
The Chiefs tried the "young and upcoming assistant" with Todd Haley... FAIL.

The Chiefs need someone with head coaching experience who can stand up to Fat Scott's brain dead personnel decisions.

There is needs to be a balance of power and a checks and balance system that wasn't there the past 3 years.

Someone who can stand up during the offseason and say... "We have cap room, Barry Richardson is shit... SIGN a right tackle".

I said the same thing in another thread. Absolute power corrupts absolutely...

gblowfish 12-12-2011 01:08 PM

I'd seriously consider this guy:
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XBW7ysPcbT0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Dexter Manley 12-12-2011 01:08 PM

The ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

KC_Lee 12-12-2011 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8194654)
I'd like a young and coming assistant not named Josh McDaniels.

Brian Schottenheimer?


Sorry, just had too.

Dexter Manley 12-12-2011 01:10 PM

I know I know...

drum roll...

Carl WEATHERS!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like a GREAT COACH in those beer ads...

Johnny Vegas 12-12-2011 01:12 PM

why not just have Romeo as the HC and Zorn as OC?

Imon Yourside 12-12-2011 01:12 PM

No thanks to Cowher, he wouldn't come back here anyways.

The Bad Guy 12-12-2011 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 8194984)
1. Cowher

2. Fisher

3. Gruden

If you want Cowher, then I guess I should firmly plant myself in the anyone but Cowher camp.

Imon Yourside 12-12-2011 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 8195025)
why not just have Romeo as the HC and Zorn as OC?

LMAO

Dayze 12-12-2011 01:13 PM

they should bring in Terry the Office Linebacker.

Johnny Vegas 12-12-2011 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8195031)
LMAO

cereally then we can get RG69 to wine and dine us to destiny.

Imon Yourside 12-12-2011 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveNull (Post 8194985)
Who are these people voting for Jeff Fisher? I'd rather bring Herm back.

He's a great coach and isn't a knowitall, given everything since birth control freak who could get along great with Pioli.
As an organization we need a coach who will quickly rectify his mistakes and move on. I see Fisher as that guy.

Dexter Manley 12-12-2011 01:16 PM

Why isn't Jerry Glanville listed??

Johnny Vegas 12-12-2011 01:17 PM

Fisher would make JC #1 in yards next year.

Dexter Manley 12-12-2011 01:20 PM

Also, Neon Deion Primetime Sanders has expressed interest in head coaching positions before, and hence cannot be ruled out. When was the last time the Chiefs had a great hi-stepper?

lewdog 12-12-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8194088)
BTW, what a shitty list. I don't want any of them.

I see tons of people always saying no to everything. What would you suggest as a coach then?

-King- 12-12-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 8194984)
1. Cowher

2. Fisher

3. Gruden

I'd rather have someone drill into my eyes with a 3 inch drill bit.
Posted via Mobile Device

Thig Lyfe 12-12-2011 02:33 PM

Peyton Manning at HC, Trent Green at OC.

whoman69 12-12-2011 02:35 PM

Ferentz- no chance he moves at this point in his career
Spurrier- already proven a fail in the NFL
Dungy- no longer has the drive, just wants an easy network job and his volunteering
Crennel- not sure is healthy enough, overwhelmed in Cleveland
Fisher- been in too long to have any drive to start again
Stoops- no NFL experience or track record
Saban- NFL fail, quit on his last NFL team
Schottenheimer- he's almost 70
Cowher- he's retired in his mind
Gruden- no coach has ever won SB with 2 teams
McDaniels- not a hard enough fail in Denver?
Del Rio- he hates KC and we hate him

whoman69 12-12-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog_5 (Post 8195346)
I see tons of people always saying no to everything. What would you suggest as a coach then?

Best coaches are hungry coordinators or coaches not given a fail shot in their last job. You really see this list as the only options?

Thig Lyfe 12-12-2011 02:37 PM

How about Joe Paterno?

KC_Lee 12-12-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8195693)
Ferentz- no chance he moves at this point in his career
Spurrier- already proven a fail in the NFL
Dungy- no longer has the drive, just wants an easy network job and his volunteering
Crennel- not sure is healthy enough, overwhelmed in Cleveland
Fisher- been in too long to have any drive to start again
Stoops- no NFL experience or track record
Saban- NFL fail, quit on his last NFL team
Schottenheimer- he's almost 70
Cowher- he's retired in his mind
Gruden- no coach has ever won SB with 2 teams
McDaniels- not a hard enough fail in Denver?
Del Rio- he hates KC and we hate him


Spot on!!

ChiefFripp 12-12-2011 02:41 PM

Tony Dungy.

BigMeatballDave 12-12-2011 02:45 PM

Look at all the ****ing morons voting for Cowher.

VAChief 12-12-2011 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8194932)
Where's Craig T Nelson on this list?
Where's Gene Hackman?
Where's Al Pacino?
Where's Frank Caliendo???

Goldie Hawn?

Beef Supreme 12-12-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbie (Post 8195075)
Also, Neon Deion Primetime Sanders has expressed interest in head coaching positions before, and hence cannot be ruled out. When was the last time the Chiefs had a great hi-stepper?

Can he play safety?

lewdog 12-12-2011 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8195707)
Best coaches are hungry coordinators or coaches not given a fail shot in their last job. You really see this list as the only options?

Oh not at all. I just see people saying no all the time but never providing any other names.

Thig Lyfe 12-12-2011 02:58 PM

No Turner Gill option?

htismaqe 12-12-2011 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8195707)
Best coaches are hungry coordinators or coaches not given a fail shot in their last job. You really see this list as the only options?

Todd Haley! ROFL

lewdog 12-12-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8196074)
Todd Haley! ROFL

Yea hiring a "hungry" OC really worked out well for us.

Rams Fan 12-12-2011 03:32 PM

Why on earth are people voting for Gruden and Cowher? :facepalm:

No HC has won a Superbowl for 2 different teams.

Sofa King 12-12-2011 03:32 PM

What's the deal with Joe Philbin. GB's O cord.

He looks like a dumbass but perhaps he's what we need. Won't be able to interview him until after he wins another superbowl though.

http://prod.static.packers.clubs.nfl...hilbin_Joe.jpg

Rams Fan 12-12-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8196142)
What's the deal with Joe Philbin. GB's O cord.

He looks like a dumbass but perhaps he's what we need. Won't be able to interview him until after he wins another superbowl though.

http://prod.static.packers.clubs.nfl...hilbin_Joe.jpg

Philbin doesn't call plays on O, I think.

Sofa King 12-12-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 8196160)
Philbin doesn't call plays on O, I think.

Oh that's right. McCarthy does. Good call. That explains why his name never comes up.

Thig Lyfe 12-12-2011 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8196182)
Oh that's right. McCarthy does. Good call. That explains why his name never comes up.

Who's coaching at Baker University now? Maybe we can find the next McCarthy.

whoman69 12-12-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog_5 (Post 8196119)
Yea hiring a "hungry" OC really worked out well for us.

Mike McCarthy OC of the 49ers before hire
Sean Peyton OC of the NYG (SB XXXV) and de facto OC for the Cowboys
Mike Tomlin DC of the Vikings
Tony Dungy former coordinator couldn't get over the top with the Bucs
Bill Cowher DC of the Chiefs before hire
Bill Belichick former DC who could not get over the top with Browns
Brian Billick former OC of the Vikings
Jon Gruden former OC who could not get over top with Raiders
Mike Shanahan former OC who could not take the Raiders anywhere
Mike Holmgren OC of the 49ers

So, what's the connection? All former coordinators. The only Super Bowl winning coaches that were not coordinators were Tom Coughlin who was HC at BC and Dick Vermeil who was HC for UCLA. That's going back 15 year in Super Bowl history. Seiffert was a coordinator as were Walsh, Gibbs, Parcelles, Flores, Noll, Landry, Lombardi. Get the idea?

BigCatDaddy 12-12-2011 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8196449)
Mike McCarthy OC of the 49ers before hire
Sean Peyton OC of the NYG (SB XXXV) and de facto OC for the Cowboys
Mike Tomlin DC of the Vikings
Tony Dungy former coordinator couldn't get over the top with the Bucs
Bill Cowher DC of the Chiefs before hire
Bill Belichick former DC who could not get over the top with Browns
Brian Billick former OC of the Vikings
Jon Gruden former OC who could not get over top with Raiders
Mike Shanahan former OC who could not take the Raiders anywhere
Mike Holmgren OC of the 49ers

So, what's the connection? All former coordinators. The only Super Bowl winning coaches that were not coordinators were Tom Coughlin who was HC at BC and Dick Vermeil who was HC for UCLA. That's going back 15 year in Super Bowl history. Seiffert was a coordinator as were Walsh, Gibbs, Parcelles, Flores, Noll, Landry, Lombardi. Get the idea?


Mike Martz it is!

Bane 12-12-2011 04:34 PM

Chuck Pagano.

melbar 12-12-2011 04:36 PM

Where is BRIAN Schottenheimer on this list? Rob Ryan?

Dexter Manley 12-12-2011 04:50 PM

Phil Fulmer, won a professional football championship at the "university" of TN

JCharles1981 12-12-2011 04:55 PM

I picked John Gruden, but given that possibly the only reason he coached the Bucs was to give a big f**k you to the Raiders when he led the Bucs to a Superbowl win over them makes me suspicious of him saying yes to coaching the Chiefs. Afterall, Gruden did coach the Raiders prior to that year and was less than successful with them. I would say Tony Dungy, but the last time we hired a former Superbowl winning coach (Dick Vermeil), we didn't go any further than the second round of the playoffs during his 5 years with us. You know why? Because we had a d-bag for a defensive coordinator, and only brought Gunther C. back in when it was too late.

BoneKrusher 12-12-2011 05:44 PM

Since Romeo will be HC for the next three weeks will he see what Stanzi has or continue with Failco?

KCBOSS1 12-12-2011 05:48 PM

What about Al Sanders? No chance I know, but when he was our OC our offense was really brilliant.

Titty Meat 12-12-2011 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8194151)
Mike Zimmer

This.

Backwards Masking 12-12-2011 05:57 PM

Not sure who I want but I know this:

I don't want Fischer, and I don't want Cowher. Not in today's NFL, where playing defense gets you fined and suspended. I'd bet money Vermeil would take us to a Super Bowl before either of them with Flag Football Goodell running the show (i know, flame away).

It's Arena League now, how bout an Arena Coach?

KCBOSS1 12-12-2011 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 8197002)
Not sure who I want but I know this:

I don't want Fischer, and I don't want Cowher. Not in today's NFL, where playing defense gets you fined and suspended. I'd bet money Vermeil would take us to a Super Bowl before either of them with Flag Football Goodell running the show (i know, flame away).

It's Arena League now, how bout an Arena Coach?

Love the Vermeil idea

Thig Lyfe 12-12-2011 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCBOSS1 (Post 8197025)
Love the Vermeil idea

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/not%...d/87582072.gif

notorious 12-12-2011 06:03 PM

Does anyone realize how average to below average Fisher is?

Backwards Masking 12-12-2011 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8197043)
Does anyone realize how average to below average Fisher is?

I do, there's a bunch of others around here that don't though.

McNair made Fischer, not the other way around. Dude only had one good season without him, and that was thanks to the defense, which gets neutered more and more every week.

fuck hiring Fischer.

munkey 12-12-2011 06:06 PM

Why would ANYONE want Marty? Really? Norv Turner is the second coming of MS and you want him back???? WOW

munkey 12-12-2011 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCBOSS1 (Post 8196942)
What about Al Sanders? No chance I know, but when he was our OC our offense was really brilliant.

He had a shot...He blew it.

Backwards Masking 12-12-2011 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munkey (Post 8197071)
Why would ANYONE want Marty? Really? Norv Turner is the second coming of MS and you want him back???? WOW

Now now now, Marty could at least win in the Regular Season.

seaofred 12-12-2011 06:10 PM

Brian Billick?

Titty Meat 12-12-2011 06:14 PM

Who's Fischer? Part of the Cassell Weiss tree?

whoman69 12-12-2011 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melbar (Post 8196500)
Where is BRIAN Schottenheimer on this list? Rob Ryan?

Separate list for idiots you would never trust with this franchise.

whoman69 12-12-2011 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 8196463)
Mike Martz it is!

I wouldn't hire anyone who chooses to run Marshall Faulk 9 times in a Super Bowl.

Predarat 12-12-2011 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 8197103)
Brian Billick?

He does have a ring, and a good record.

whoman69 12-12-2011 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predarat (Post 8197449)
He does have a ring, and a good record.

Which if you go by history he won't be able to do it again.

Frankie 12-12-2011 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 8194694)
The Chiefs tried the "young and upcoming assistant" with Todd Haley... FAIL.

The Chiefs need someone with head coaching experience who can stand up to Fat Scott's brain dead personnel decisions.

But the problem is we have tried the "established" coach method too and that failed. If we are to repeat one of the two methods that we failed in I's stay with the YaCA approach hoping to find the next Payton.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 8194694)
There is needs to be a balance of power and a checks and balance system that wasn't there the past 3 years.

Someone who can stand up during the offseason and say... "We have cap room, Barry Richardson is shit... SIGN a right tackle".

It increasingly appears that this will not happen in a Pioli dictatorship. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 8194984)
1. Cowher

2. Fisher

3. Gruden

1. No

2. No

3. No

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 8194991)
Romeo

And NO.

whoman69 12-12-2011 07:45 PM

I'll take a shot.

HC- Joe Philbin, current OC of the Packers, said to be in line to get the job at Tulane

DC- Mike Nolan currently with the Dolphins, has them playing well right now

melbar 12-12-2011 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munkey (Post 8197071)
Why would ANYONE want Marty? Really? Norv Turner is the second coming of MS and you want him back???? WOW

Marty is past his time, and I dont want him now, but he could build a team. Norv coasted on the tails of the Team Marty created. Not even in the same league.

el borracho 12-12-2011 08:02 PM

Is Cam Cameron on anybody's list? I admired his work as OC in San Diego and (from my remote view) he seems to be doing a decent job as OC in Baltimore. His one year with the Dolphins was a disaster but the Dolphins have sucked pretty consistently since Marino retired and one year isn't a whole lot of time.

notorious 12-12-2011 08:05 PM

I have no good ideas for a head coach.


Give me a dart board without Fisher and Crennel on it, and hope for the best.

Chief Roundup 12-12-2011 08:20 PM

Just playing around here but some combination of the following makes the most sense.

HC: Zimmer, Mangini, Crennel
OC: McDaniels, don't know many other OC from the tree, McDaniels has made Cassel successful. If Pioli's future is tied to Cassel this would be the move for Pioli to make to attempt to save his career.
DC: Crennel, Mangini don't think Zimmer would make lateral move

Shogun 12-12-2011 08:22 PM

Either Marty

or Dick Vermiel with Norv as OC and Romeo as DC


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