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Rausch 12-13-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8199988)
He had Haley targeted from the start.

I find very little comfort in that...

DaWolf 12-13-2011 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8199800)
Are you saying that Romeo keeps the job for a year or so and then McDaniels?

I'm saying Pioli might think that McD cannot be sold as a head coach right now, but is salvageable as an OC even after this disaster that is the Rams. And Romeo probably doesn't have more than 3 years left in him anyway with his age and hip. But he's been through the trials of being a HC before, and is one of those guys who probably just wants to oversee the defense and hand over the offense to whoever and get out of the way. So Pioli looks at that and says great, we can have defensive continuity, hand over the entire offense to McD, and if after two to three years our offense is playing at a proficient level and winning us games, then it becomes an easier sell to say my buddy McD deserves a second shot.

Now, in no way do I endorse this plan, but I would not be shocked to see it happen. And if it does happen, I would be surprised to see any of this regime last for three more years unless they find themselves a franchise QB...

Discuss Thrower 12-13-2011 01:48 PM

What about Zorn as OC?

Frosty 12-13-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8199920)
I think he did.

FAX

I guess he wasn't very memorable, then, because I don't remember when it happened.

durtyrute 12-13-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 8200049)
What about Zorn as OC?

There is no way in hell he could call a worse game than the shit we have been seeing.

MoreLemonPledge 12-13-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 8200049)
What about Zorn as OC?

**** no. I still have no idea why everybody's been on Zorn's jock. He hasn't done shit.

jd1020 12-13-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 8200067)
**** no. I still have no idea why everybody's been on Zorn's jock. He hasn't done shit.

No one is good enough for CP.

"How about [insert name] for [insert position]?"

...

"**** NO!!!!! I have no idea why not or no idea who else, but... **** NO!!!!!"

Titty Meat 12-13-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8199988)
Pioli had no desire to hire McD, if he did he would have been hired on in 2009.

He had Haley targeted from the start.

Pioli wasn't even hired when McDaniels was hired.

KC_Lee 12-13-2011 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 8200067)
**** no. I still have no idea why everybody's been on Zorn's jock. He hasn't done shit.

Beacuse he's not Bill "Grampa Simpson" Muir.

DaWolf 12-13-2011 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 8200142)
Beacuse he's not Bill "Grampa Simpson" Muir.

He's not, but he also wasn't so hot in Washington either. He's one of the rare coaches who got playcalling publicly stripped from him midway through a season.

Come to think of it, between Muir, Zorn, and Carthon, we're probably employing three of the worst playcallers in NFL history...

TRR 12-13-2011 02:15 PM

For the record, Crennel is my coach of choice. He has been around the league and he knows what a shitty situation (Cleveland) looks like...and this isn't it. The defensive players rave about him and they seem to always play hard.

In the NFL, consistency wins. Crennel is a way to stay consistent from a scheme standpoint and he brings instant credibility to the team. If they want McD as an O-Coordinator than so be it....but Crennel has seen it and done it.
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Titty Meat 12-13-2011 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 8200183)
For the record, Crennel is my coach of choice. He has been around the league and he knows what a shitty situation (Cleveland) looks like...and this isn't it. The defensive players rave about him and they seem to always play hard.

In the NFL, consistency wins. Crennel is a way to stay consistent from a scheme standpoint and he brings instant credibility to the team. If they want McD as an O-Coordinator than so be it....but Crennel has seen it and done it.
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Crennel was consistently bad in Cleveland. I compared the situation in Kansas City to the situation in Cleveland when Savage/Crennel were running things.

Rausch 12-13-2011 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 8200049)
What about Zorn as OC?

No...

BigMeatballDave 12-13-2011 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8200112)
Pioli wasn't even hired when McDaniels was hired.

Yep. According to Wikipedia, Pioli was hired 2 days after Denver hired McDumbass.

BigMeatballDave 12-13-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8200205)
No...

Why not? I dont care really.

BigMeatballDave 12-13-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 8200183)
For the record, Crennel is my coach of choice. He has been around the league and he knows what a shitty situation (Cleveland) looks like...and this isn't it. The defensive players rave about him and they seem to always play hard.

In the NFL, consistency wins. Crennel is a way to stay consistent from a scheme standpoint and he brings instant credibility to the team. If they want McD as an O-Coordinator than so be it....but Crennel has seen it and done it.
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Puke. Kill yourself

Rausch 12-13-2011 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8200197)
Crennel was consistently bad in Cleveland. I compared the situation in Kansas City to the situation in Cleveland when Savage/Crennel were running things.

He's a great DC.

So are Dom Capers, the living legend in Pitt, and any number of others.

I'm happy with Romeo as a short-term-fill-in.

He's a career coordinator. A damned good one, but it is what it is...

durtyrute 12-13-2011 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 8200183)
For the record, Crennel is my coach of choice. He has been around the league and he knows what a shitty situation (Cleveland) looks like...and this isn't it. The defensive players rave about him and they seem to always play hard.

In the NFL, consistency wins. Crennel is a way to stay consistent from a scheme standpoint and he brings instant credibility to the team. If they want McD as an O-Coordinator than so be it....but Crennel has seen it and done it.
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I'd take Crennel, but McD can go McDie

BigMeatballDave 12-13-2011 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 8200067)
**** no. I still have no idea why everybody's been on Zorn's jock. He hasn't done shit.

Well, to be fair, our QBs are shit.

suds79 12-13-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 8200183)
For the record, Crennel is my coach of choice. He has been around the league and he knows what a shitty situation (Cleveland) looks like...and this isn't it. The defensive players rave about him and they seem to always play hard.

Listening to parts of Romeo's comments today. It's refreshing to hear a coach actually answer questions.

I guess Scott hasn't trained him just yet. ;)

He's not my first choice but if that D-bag Scott Pioli is persistent in hiring one of his old buddies, I'd prefer it be Romeo.

And keep McD away from KC as much as possible. No as the HC. No as a OC.

BossChief 12-13-2011 02:47 PM

Crennel had as much to do with all the blowouts as everyone else.

IMO, he has coached about 4 good games this season....no mistake those are the games he decided to turn the heat up a couple notches.

...

Romeo will be the HC
Pleasant will be promoted to DC
Zorn will get promoted to OC
Sirianni will be promoted to QB coach

Orton will be re-signed
We won't draft a quarterback until the third day

The fan base will continue to distance itself from the team.

jd1020 12-13-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200317)
Orton will be re-signed
We won't draft a quarterback until the third day

Is Cassel cut or something? Or are we gonna roll with 4 QBs when we already have 1 too many for game day?

FAX 12-13-2011 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8200327)
Is Cassel cut or something? Or are we gonna roll with 4 QBs when we already have 1 too many for game day?

They'll cut Palko, for sure. Orton doesn't even have a deal for next year, I don't think.

So ... Cassel, Stanzi, 7th rounder.

FAX

Dave Lane 12-13-2011 03:30 PM

JoshLooneyJosh Looney

Pioli has not decided on a starting quarterback for Sunday vs. GB. #Chiefs

FAX 12-13-2011 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8200511)
JoshLooneyJosh Looney

Pioli has not decided on a starting quarterback for Sunday vs. GB. #Chiefs

What?

FAX

jd1020 12-13-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8200506)
They'll cut Palko, for sure. Orton doesn't even have a deal for next year, I don't think.

So ... Cassel, Stanzi, 7th rounder.

FAX

Palko and Orton are FA's after this season.

But, he said we'd re-sign Orton and draft a QB on the 3rd day.

So it would be Cassel, Orton, Stanzi, and ???

BossChief 12-13-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8200511)
JoshLooneyJosh Looney

Pioli has not decided on a starting quarterback for Sunday vs. GB. #Chiefs

HMOG

Please, tell me you altered that.

FAX 12-13-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200573)
HMOG

Please, tell me you altered that.

I pray that he did. Otherwise, we are already a-swirl mid-flush.

FAX

Discuss Thrower 12-13-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200573)
HMOG

Please, tell me you altered that.

@JoshLooney
Josh Looney
Crennel has not decided on a starting quarterback for Sunday vs. GB. #Chiefs
4 hours ago via TweetDeck

... ?

rocknrolla 12-13-2011 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8199545)
Stanzi

Powe

Hudson

Need to play.

THIS! There is no excuse for them not to. What's there to loose? Oh yea, I forgot Clark says we are still mathematically in the playoff race. What a douche.

-King- 12-13-2011 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200573)
HMOG

Please, tell me you altered that.

He did. It was really

JoshLooneyJosh Looney

Hunt has not decided on a starting quarterback for Sunday vs. GB. #Chiefs
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BossChief 12-13-2011 04:18 PM

I posted this a few weeks back, but feel it should get a new life in this here thread thinggy.

My hope is that Clark Hunt (after any of these embarrassments of games) storms into Piolis office...says "get this team a quarterback" and closes the door behind him with nothing else needing said.

That would be straight up GOLD.

O.city 12-13-2011 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200686)
I posted this a few weeks back, but feel it should get a new life in this here thread thinggy.

My hope is that Clark Hunt (after any of these embarrassments of games) storms into Piolis office...says "get this team a quarterback" and closes the door behind him with nothing else needing said.

That would be straight up GOLD.

I think / hope that already happened. Maybe right before that news thing.

Tribal Warfare 12-13-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200686)
I posted this a few weeks back, but feel it should get a new life in this here thread thinggy.

My hope is that Clark Hunt (after any of these embarrassments of games) storms into Piolis office...says "get this team a quarterback" and closes the door behind him with nothing else needing said.

That would be straight up GOLD.

It'll have to happen that way IMO

chop 12-13-2011 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8199699)
All this Stanzi fapping is funny. If Orton can grip and throw the ball, it's going to be him under center.

I agree that they are just probably waiting to see if Orton is good to go but I think this is the best time to see what they have in Stanzi.

chop 12-13-2011 05:04 PM

The biggest reason that Pioli and Hunt gave for letting Haley go was the team was inconsistant. If that's the case, Cassel should not start another game for the Chiefs.

Psyko Tek 12-13-2011 05:05 PM

Start Arenas as QB
car and flowers as wide receivers ( at least they want to catch the ball)
Hali as fullback
and DJ as TE ( he might learn how to cover one that way)

I mean **** it if the D is gonna be on the field most of the game let them play it all
at least they want to win

crossbow 12-13-2011 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 8199589)
A ball hawk opportunistic, that has played an ass load of high powered offenses.

Well they haven't faced the confusing and pile driving offense of the vaulted Kansas City Chiefs yet so we will find out just how good they realy are or if they are indeed frauds.

FloridaMan88 12-13-2011 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8200686)
I posted this a few weeks back, but feel it should get a new life in this here thread thinggy.

My hope is that Clark Hunt (after any of these embarrassments of games) storms into Piolis office...says "get this team a quarterback" and closes the door behind him with nothing else needing said.

That would be straight up GOLD.

Clark doesn't give a shit.

FAX 12-13-2011 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 8200788)
Start Arenas as QB
car and flowers as wide receivers ( at least they want to catch the ball)
Hali as fullback
and DJ as TE ( he might learn how to cover one that way)

I mean **** it if the D is gonna be on the field most of the game let them play it all
at least they want to win

I like this plan.

FAX

Rasputin 12-13-2011 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rocknrolla (Post 8200598)
THIS! There is no excuse for them not to. What's there to loose? Oh yea, I forgot Clark says we are still mathematically in the playoff race. What a douche.

Just another one of my pet peeves this season is Casey Wiggworm. I thought when he left for dungver he was gone for good. I thought the last year he played for the Chiefs he pretty much sucked eggs. I thought he was part of the problem with the O-line the last year of Herm Edwards after all the good years have passed him. The man is 38 years old. 16 years in the league. Just what is going on here with the youth movement?? WTF???

BigMeatballDave 12-14-2011 12:08 AM

I'd be surprised if Orton doesn't start. Crennel wants to win. Orton gives them the best chance. Provided his finger is OK.

I really hope Palko is inactive.

jspchief 12-14-2011 12:21 AM

I don't get how everyone has determined that Palko playing was 100% Haley.

I've always felt the most likely explanation was Pioli having some grand plan to groom Stanzi that involved him taking the Aaron Rodgers approach to his first few years. And Pioli being so married to that plan that even in the face of this year's QB trainwreck, he refused to deviate.

It's even plausible to me that Haley reached his limit on trotting out Failco, and said Stanzi plays or I go, and that's what resulted in him being fired now vs at seasons end.

Of course that's just as speculative as the opinion that Haley actually liked Failco. Unless there's info I missed confirming that?

Chief Roundup 12-14-2011 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8201936)
I don't get how everyone has determined that Palko playing was 100% Haley.

I've always felt the most likely explanation was Pioli having some grand plan to groom Stanzi that involved him taking the Aaron Rodgers approach to his first few years. And Pioli being so married to that plan that even in the face of this year's QB trainwreck, he refused to deviate.

It's even plausible to me that Haley reached his limit on trotting out Failco, and said Stanzi plays or I go, and that's what resulted in him being fired now vs at seasons end.

Of course that's just as speculative as the opinion that Haley actually liked Failco. Unless there's info I missed confirming that?

Todd and Palko were on the AZ Cardinals together.

007 12-14-2011 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 8200067)
**** no. I still have no idea why everybody's been on Zorn's jock. He hasn't done shit.

But.... he's left handed.

BigMeatballDave 12-14-2011 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8201936)
I don't get how everyone has determined that Palko playing was 100% Haley.

I've always felt the most likely explanation was Pioli having some grand plan to groom Stanzi that involved him taking the Aaron Rodgers approach to his first few years. And Pioli being so married to that plan that even in the face of this year's QB trainwreck, he refused to deviate.

It's even plausible to me that Haley reached his limit on trotting out Failco, and said Stanzi plays or I go, and that's what resulted in him being fired now vs at seasons end.

Of course that's just as speculative as the opinion that Haley actually liked Failco. Unless there's info I missed confirming that?

Palko was in Arizona with Haley. Doesn't take a genious to figure that one out.

jd1020 12-14-2011 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8201944)
Doesn't take a genious to figure that one out.

True.

jspchief 12-14-2011 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8201940)
Todd and Palko were on the AZ Cardinals together.

And that's enough to assume he'd choose Palko as the weapon with which he commits career suicide?

I mean, its a link. It just seems like an extremely weak one.

jspchief 12-14-2011 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 8200067)
**** no. I still have no idea why everybody's been on Zorn's jock. He hasn't done shit.

This fanbase's infatuation with Zorn has confused me from day one. The guy has done literally nothing as a coach. Anywhere.

Rasputin 12-14-2011 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8201936)
I don't get how everyone has determined that Palko playing was 100% Haley.

I've always felt the most likely explanation was Pioli having some grand plan to groom Stanzi that involved him taking the Aaron Rodgers approach to his first few years. And Pioli being so married to that plan that even in the face of this year's QB trainwreck, he refused to deviate.

It's even plausible to me that Haley reached his limit on trotting out Failco, and said Stanzi plays or I go, and that's what resulted in him being fired now vs at seasons end.

Of course that's just as speculative as the opinion that Haley actually liked Failco. Unless there's info I missed confirming that?

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Hammock Parties 12-14-2011 12:40 AM

Trust me, Haley was in love with Tyler Palko.

Bordered on insanity.

BigMeatballDave 12-14-2011 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8201957)
And that's enough to assume he'd choose Palko as the weapon with which he commits career suicide?

I mean, its a link. It just seems like an extremely weak one.

Todd already knew he was gone. He just gave his boy his 15mins...

HMc 12-14-2011 03:13 AM

it's possible that Stanzi is absolutely diabolical when at practice, and they dare not put him in as he is just_that_bad.

I feel a bit sorry for Haley. He was expected to win with a mediocre QB and a team worth 30 million less that most of them. He may be a dickhead aswell but he was ****ed from the start, IMO.

jd1020 12-14-2011 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HMc (Post 8202152)
it's possible that Stanzi is absolutely diabolical when at practice, and they dare not put him in as he is just_that_bad.

I feel a bit sorry for Haley. He was expected to win with a mediocre QB and a team worth 30 million less that most of them. He may be a dickhead aswell but he was ****ed from the start, IMO.

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BossChief 12-14-2011 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by HMc (Post 8202152)
it's possible that Stanzi is absolutely diabolical when at practice, and they dare not put him in as he is just_that_bad.

I feel a bit sorry for Haley. He was expected to win with a mediocre QB and a team worth 30 million less that most of them. He may be a dickhead aswell but he was ****ed from the start, IMO.

4 yards in the first half...

1 legit touchdown pass (that Bowe dropped)

13+ legit interception balls thrown (5 or 6 dropped)

I dont care how bad the next guy looks in practice...he gets a chance because Palko was that bad.

HMc 12-14-2011 03:24 AM

What's your theory JD?

BossChief 12-14-2011 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8201964)
Trust me, Haley was in love with Tyler Palko.

Bordered on insanity.

All I can say about that is he also seemed to like Lance Long, but he was shown the door..same goes for a lot of guys Haley brought in that didnt work out.

Its the GMs job to bring in the players, not Haleys.

Pioli allowed the team to go into 2 NFL seasons with Palko on the 53 man roster.

THink about that for a second...especially after knowing everything about the Cassel situation.

HMc 12-14-2011 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8202168)
4 yards in the first half...

1 legit touchdown pass (that Bowe dropped)

13+ legit interception balls thrown (5 or 6 dropped)

I dont care how bad the next guy looks in practice...he gets a chance because Palko was that bad.

It's possible that there are semi decent reasons for leaving Stanzi on the bench, is all I am saying.

FAX 12-14-2011 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HMc (Post 8202177)
It's possible that there are semi decent reasons for leaving Stanzi on the bench, is all I am saying.

I can think of several very good and rational reasons to keep Stanzi out of action.

People just want something that represents hope, I think. Desperation sets in and you just need something to cling to like a squeezy tittah in a violent storm. I call it, "Tempestuous Tittah Syndrome" and all Chiefs fans suffer from it from time to time.

FAX

JCharles1981 12-14-2011 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chop (Post 8200785)
The biggest reason that Pioli and Hunt gave for letting Haley go was the team was inconsistant. If that's the case, Cassel should not start another game for the Chiefs.

To my understanding, the main reason Haley was let go was so that Pioli would have a shot at choosing between three guys to be the new Head Coach for next year. I am guessing Josh McDaniels might be one of the prospects, but I hope he isn't picked.

htismaqe 12-14-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HMc (Post 8202177)
It's possible that there are semi decent reasons for leaving Stanzi on the bench, is all I am saying.

Tyler Palko teetered on the brink of NFL INFAMY.

There aren't any decent reasons for leaving anybody on the bench. Unless you don't care about winning.

Todd Haley is a liar.

htismaqe 12-14-2011 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8201936)
I don't get how everyone has determined that Palko playing was 100% Haley.

I've always felt the most likely explanation was Pioli having some grand plan to groom Stanzi that involved him taking the Aaron Rodgers approach to his first few years. And Pioli being so married to that plan that even in the face of this year's QB trainwreck, he refused to deviate.

It's even plausible to me that Haley reached his limit on trotting out Failco, and said Stanzi plays or I go, and that's what resulted in him being fired now vs at seasons end.

Of course that's just as speculative as the opinion that Haley actually liked Failco. Unless there's info I missed confirming that?

Good post.

Chiefnj2 12-14-2011 08:56 AM

Haley knew he was getting fired. He didn't have anything to lose pulling Palko and putting Stanzi in. At worse, Stanzi looks like crap, but at least Haley tried. At best, Stanzi plays well and Haley and Pioli look good for drafting and developing him.

Haley's love of Palko goes back to preseason. Palko got to run with the first team. When Cassel hurt is ribs in the final game, it was Palko who got to play the ENTIRE game. 4th preseason game always equals play the scrubs. Haley chose to play Palko. They have a small connection back to Pitt.

I understand it is the "in" thing to kick Pioli now that Haley is gone. Pioli certainly deserves blame, but to think Haley couldn't have pulled Palko in the 3rd or 4th quarter is a joke.

suds79 12-14-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8202378)
Haley knew he was getting fired. He didn't have anything to lose pulling Palko and putting Stanzi in. At worse, Stanzi looks like crap, but at least Haley tried. At best, Stanzi plays well and Haley and Pioli look good for drafting and developing him.

Haley's love of Palko goes back to preseason. Palko got to run with the first team. When Cassel hurt is ribs in the final game, it was Palko who got to play the ENTIRE game. 4th preseason game always equals play the scrubs. Haley chose to play Palko. They have a small connection back to Pitt.

I understand it is the "in" thing to kick Pioli now that Haley is gone. Pioli certainly deserves blame, but to think Haley couldn't have pulled Palko in the 3rd or 4th quarter is a joke.

With the whole Palko vs Stanzi thing, I think it boils down to one of two options.

A - You believe Todd Hailey legitimately believe Palko was better and therefore was crazy.

B - It was a big F U to Scott Pioli. Todd knew he was getting fired a long time ago. So he wouldn't even play Scott's draft pick or play the guy they just blew 6 mil on.

notorious 12-14-2011 09:00 AM

Translation: Pick up GB defense on your fantasy league.

LOCOChief 12-14-2011 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8201964)
Trust me, Haley was in love with Tyler Palko.

Bordered on insanity.

Bullshit.

htismaqe 12-14-2011 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8202378)
Haley knew he was getting fired. He didn't have anything to lose pulling Palko and putting Stanzi in. At worse, Stanzi looks like crap, but at least Haley tried. At best, Stanzi plays well and Haley and Pioli look good for drafting and developing him.

Haley's love of Palko goes back to preseason. Palko got to run with the first team. When Cassel hurt is ribs in the final game, it was Palko who got to play the ENTIRE game. 4th preseason game always equals play the scrubs. Haley chose to play Palko. They have a small connection back to Pitt.

I understand it is the "in" thing to kick Pioli now that Haley is gone. Pioli certainly deserves blame, but to think Haley couldn't have pulled Palko in the 3rd or 4th quarter is a joke.

Another very good post.

BigRock 12-14-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8201940)
Todd and Palko were on the AZ Cardinals together.

For a month.

While Palko was on a future's contract and Haley was coaching in the playoffs and Super Bowl.

One can only imagine all the quality time they spent together.

milkman 12-14-2011 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JCharles1981 (Post 8202183)
To my understanding, the main reason Haley was let go was so that Pioli would have a shot at choosing between three guys to be the new Head Coach for next year. I am guessing Josh McDaniels might be one of the prospects, but I hope he isn't picked.

You don't fire a guy with 3 games remaining because you want to have a shot at specific coaches.

You can't talk to anyone on another staff until season's end, and any respectable former coach is not going to talk to you unless their position is completely vacant, meaning that there isn't even an interim coach in place.

If you want your choice of candidates, you fire your head coach the second the final whistle blows in the final game.

RUSH 12-14-2011 10:29 AM

Nick just tweeted that Orton is likely to start Sunday.

loochy 12-14-2011 10:33 AM

JoshLooneyJosh Looney

I make up lots of random crap and post it even though it means nothing. #Chiefs




kentbabbKent Babb

Josh, you too? I thought I was the only one that did that.

htismaqe 12-14-2011 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RUSH (Post 8202696)
Nick just tweeted that Orton is likely to start Sunday.

Petro just said basically the same thing. Romeo is auditioning for the HC job and won't put Stanzi out there to jeopardize that.

Of course, I'm not convinced that Petro is Sensible...he started to get giddy talking about Romeo and McDaniels with either Cassel or Orton at QB next year.

Toadkiller 12-14-2011 10:51 AM

JoshLooney Josh Looney
Kyle Orton will start if healthy. If not, it's Ricky Stanzi #Chiefs

Discuss Thrower 12-14-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8202676)
You don't fire a guy with 3 games remaining because you want to have a shot at specific coaches.

You can't talk to anyone on another staff until season's end, and any respectable former coach is not going to talk to you unless their position is completely vacant, meaning that there isn't even an interim coach in place.

If you want your choice of candidates, you fire your head coach the second the final whistle blows in the final game.

So what gives with Jacksonville and Miami doing the same thing?

loochy 12-14-2011 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toadkiller (Post 8202755)
JoshLooney Josh Looney
Kyle Orton will start if healthy. If not, it's Ricky Stanzi #Chiefs

Quick! Someone go smash orton's hand with a hammer. Pull a Tonya Harding on him.

Chiefnj2 12-14-2011 10:53 AM

You can't blame Romeo for starting Orton this week. Orton already played GB once this year, so he has some familiarity with them. He put up 270+ yards and 3 TDs (3INTs also), which would be KC's greatest offensive achievement this year next to the Colts game.

htismaqe 12-14-2011 10:53 AM

Romeo just told the media at Arrowhead that Orton will start if he can.

DJ's left nut 12-14-2011 10:54 AM

THANK YOU ROMEO!!!!

Oh, and double **** you, Haley.

Confirmed by Crennel that Orton to start, Stanzi to backup. Failco to 3rd.

ILChief 12-14-2011 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toadkiller (Post 8202755)
JoshLooney Josh Looney
Kyle Orton will start if healthy. If not, it's Ricky Stanzi #Chiefs

Let's hope Orton isn't healthy. At least the palko disaster is over

htismaqe 12-14-2011 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8202761)
You can't blame Romeo for starting Orton this week. Orton already played GB once this year, so he has some familiarity with them. He put up 270+ yards and 3 TDs (3INTs also), which would be KC's greatest offensive achievement this year next to the Colts game.

I don't blame him at all. Orton is his best chance to win the HC gig.

It was Haley who should have played Stanzi.


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