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gblowfish 03-01-2012 04:10 PM

AHA!!!! Now we have some ammunition to draft a legit QB!!!

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BIG_DADDY 03-01-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8410726)
Grabbing a young piece of ass deserves jail time? 18 is 18.

Exactly

Fish 03-01-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8410360)
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She wanted to date me, but I'm not able to be brainwashed or controlled, so that wasn't gonna work out so it never really started. .
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LMAO...

Nzoner 03-01-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8410791)
AHA!!!! Now we have some ammunition to draft a legit QB!!!

http://i42.tinypic.com/2u7633l.gif

LMAO

RockChalk 03-01-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8410636)
Three way?

4-way for me.

seclark 03-01-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8410791)
AHA!!!! Now we have some ammunition to draft a legit QB!!!

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she needs to clean the spinach out of her teeth.
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RockChalk 03-01-2012 04:16 PM

You really can't beat a solid Columbia fleece

loochy 03-01-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 8410783)
WTF with the avatar LMAO

i believe it was inspired by the kardashian thread

vailpass 03-01-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 8410783)
WTF with the avatar LMAO

Its an NAFL fantasy football team of which I am a big fan.

Bambi 03-01-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8410791)
AHA!!!! Now we have some ammunition to draft a legit QB!!!

http://i42.tinypic.com/2u7633l.gif

bwahahaha

qabbaan 03-01-2012 04:24 PM

I'd bet pretty good money her father wasn't in the home. A 17 year old girl who is reasonably attractive and should have normal options doesn't do this without father issues.

RockChalk 03-01-2012 04:28 PM

Only one thing is for certain here: this girl will never have any sort of a "normal" life from this point on.

Frazod 03-01-2012 04:30 PM

This may be legal, but it is definitely ****ed up and deeply wrong. People like cops, coaches and teachers who have positions of authority over children and abuse them for their own sexual gratification should be held to a higher standard.

The standard I have in mind would leave them publicly twitching at the end of a rope.

loochy 03-01-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8410852)
This may be legal, but it is definitely ****ed up and deeply wrong. People like cops, coaches and teachers who have positions of authority over children and abuse them for their own sexual gratification should be held to a higher standard.

The standard I have in mind would leave them publicly twitching at the end of a rope.

I agree, but she's not a "children"

Frazod 03-01-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 8410858)
I agree, but she's not a "children"

Do you really believe he waited until she turned 18 to tap that shit? Really?

ShortRoundChief 03-01-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 8410843)
Only one thing is for certain here: this girl will never have any sort of a "normal" life from this point on.

Really? How did you arrive at that conclusion?

ShortRoundChief 03-01-2012 05:41 PM

I heard her father caught her posting some shit about him on Facebook. Afterwards, he made a video of him shooting her laptop.

Rain Man 03-01-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8410852)
This may be legal, but it is definitely ****ed up and deeply wrong. People like cops, coaches and teachers who have positions of authority over children and abuse them for their own sexual gratification should be held to a higher standard.

The standard I have in mind would leave them publicly twitching at the end of a rope.

I definitely agree in theory that you have to keep a distance, but I've always wondered about teachers' situations and how difficult it is over the course of a career. More so at the college level, but I guess at the upper high school level as well.

You're a teacher who teaches 3 courses, and there are 10 females in each course. You get to know them over the course of 16 weeks or so. Now multiply this by 3 semesters a year over the course of a 30-year teaching career.

You've now gotten the opportunity to meet and know almost 3,000 young women. If you ascribe to the theory that there's not just one woman in the world for every man and that (for example) 1 percent of women are good marriage material for you, the odds are pretty good that you'll see 30 women over the course of that career that you fall in love with during those 16 weeks. It doesn't seem infeasible that sparks could ignite.

The numbers are different for high school, but the theory's the same. I wonder how many high school teachers and college professors, if being completely honest, would tell you that they've had a crush on X number of students in their career, even if the majority never act on it.

In my grad school, two professors ended up marrying students in my class, plus or minus a year. It was minorly scandalous, particularly since one of them had been married, but life went on for them.

cdcox, what say you?

ChiefsHawk 03-01-2012 05:51 PM

snaggletooth....pass

Bump 03-01-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8410863)
Do you really believe he waited until she turned 18 to tap that shit? Really?

well this site eagerly anticipates when a hot celebrity chick is about to turn 18. Have you forgotten the threads like "Miley Cyrus is 3 months away from 18!!!!"

RockChalk 03-01-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 8410995)
Really? How did you arrive at that conclusion?

Do you seriously believe that their relationship is going to work out? This guy has been "courting" her since she was 15. Now it may have started off as innocent, and she may very well initiated taking things to a more serious level, but it was all guided by an adult. A teacher at that. This girl has no clue what she wants, because in all likelihood, he may be all that she's ever had.

Things will end between them, and a messed up teenager will be all that is left.

saphojunkie 03-01-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8410852)
This may be legal, but it is definitely ****ed up and deeply wrong. People like cops, coaches and teachers who have positions of authority over children and abuse them for their own sexual gratification should be held to a higher standard.

The standard I have in mind would leave them publicly twitching at the end of a rope.

They ARE held to a higher standard, usually by school policy. If this happened in Texas, however, he could be sentenced to up to TWENTY YEARS in prison. Texas removed the age provision when passing anti-student/teacher relationship legislation about five years ago.

GloryDayz 03-01-2012 06:16 PM

They're of legal age.... Let's move along; nothing to see here!

Frosty 03-01-2012 06:49 PM

Something like this happened at my school when I was in high school. When I was a junior, my chemistry teacher married one of his former students a couple of months after she graduated. Rumors were that they married so quickly because she was pregnant. I don't know if that's true, though. He was single so didn't leave a wife for the student like this guy did.

He was teaching the next year, so nothing was done about it. Nothing was really even said about it. This was in 1981, though. Times change.

Kyle DeLexus 03-01-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8411125)
Something like this happened at my school when I was in high school. When I was a junior, my chemistry teacher married one of his former students a couple of months after she graduated. Rumors were that they married so quickly because she was pregnant. I don't know if that's true, though. He was single so didn't leave a wife for the student like this guy did.

He was teaching the next year, so nothing was done about it. Nothing was really even said about it. This was in 1981, though. Times change.

That same situation happened in the 90's in a neighboring town from where I grew up. Then when I was in school, one of the teachers decided he was going to leave at the end of the year and then knocked up a married teacher and a student. He ended up marrying the student.

T-post Tom 03-01-2012 11:37 PM

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T-post Tom 03-01-2012 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8411022)
I definitely agree in theory that you have to keep a distance, but I've always wondered about teachers' situations and how difficult it is over the course of a career. More so at the college level, but I guess at the upper high school level as well.

You're a teacher who teaches 3 courses, and there are 10 females in each course. You get to know them over the course of 16 weeks or so. Now multiply this by 3 semesters a year over the course of a 30-year teaching career.

You've now gotten the opportunity to meet and know almost 3,000 young women. If you ascribe to the theory that there's not just one woman in the world for every man and that (for example) 1 percent of women are good marriage material for you, the odds are pretty good that you'll see 30 women over the course of that career that you fall in love with during those 16 weeks. It doesn't seem infeasible that sparks could ignite.

The numbers are different for high school, but the theory's the same. I wonder how many high school teachers and college professors, if being completely honest, would tell you that they've had a crush on X number of students in their career, even if the majority never act on it.

In my grad school, two professors ended up marrying students in my class, plus or minus a year. It was minorly scandalous, particularly since one of them had been married, but life went on for them.

cdcox, what say you?

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listopencil 03-01-2012 11:56 PM

Still no FaceBook page? Do I have to go to 4Chan?

cdcox 03-02-2012 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8411022)

cdcox, what say you?

In terms of attraction, college professors are people, just like everyone else.

Personally, I'm not interested in a relationship or having sex with anyone other than my wife. If you're not looking, the screwy human biology stuff is manageable.

In general, faculty members tend to be logical thinkers that can consider options very carefully. In most cases, faculty members have a spouse, children, a house, a very secure and decent paying job, and a retirement plan. An affair with a student would put all of that at risk.

I know of a few cases of faculty members that have developed medium or long term relationships with students, but it's relatively rare. The divorce rate among my colleagues is far lower than the general population, and I can't think of a single case that I am familiar with where it was due to an affair with a student. My detection abilities aren't sensitive enough to pick up on one night stands, but I guess they happen. We're pretty boring, actually.

Disgruntled_Parent via SR's IP in GA 03-02-2012 01:16 AM

California Teacher, 41 resigns after leaving wife, kids for student, 18

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OH - MY - GOD!!!! This is exactly why i do home schooling. This is SICK!

RockChalk 03-03-2012 01:02 PM

http://gma.yahoo.com/california-teen...-abc-news.html

NewChief 03-03-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 8411647)
In terms of attraction, college professors are people, just like everyone else.

Personally, I'm not interested in a relationship or having sex with anyone other than my wife. If you're not looking, the screwy human biology stuff is manageable.

This, this, and this. I'm not a 16-year old dumbass controlled by my dick and hormones any longer. It's fairly easy to just not let your mind go there and not allow yourself to get into any situations like this. I will say that, as a result of this sort of thing and the fact that I work with a lot of teenage girls, I'm probably move open and closer with my male students than my female (not that there aren't plenty of instances of same-sex scandal as well). But I'm just more comfortable being "friendly" with my male students than female, preferring to keep my female students at a greater distance. I feel sort of bad about that and wonder if they're missing out on something as a result, but it's just not worth it to me.

Lonewolf Ed 03-03-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8410324)
He'll die of a heart attack banging a 28 year old woman when he's 51.

That sure beats getting eaten by a grizzly or struck by lightning!

Chief3188 03-03-2012 02:58 PM

Yeah this will work out. By the time she is completely bored and wanting to go out and live her life he will be wanting to grab a movie from redbox and drink an ensure.

loochy 03-03-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Simpler Red (Post 8411651)
California Teacher, 41 resigns after leaving wife, kids for student, 18

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OH - MY - GOD!!!! This is exactly why i do home schooling. This is SICK!


Who ARE you?

loochy 03-03-2012 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Simpler Red (Post 8411651)
This is exactly why i do home schooling.

Why? So you can sleep with your own kid? Now THAT'S sick.

listopencil 03-03-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 8415071)
Why? So you can sleep with your own kid? Now THAT'S sick.

Why cross the street when you can go down the hallway?

loochy 03-03-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8415116)
Why cross the street when you can go down the hallway?

Because the hallway stinks from when I took a dump earlier.

alnorth 03-04-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Simpler Red (Post 8411651)
California Teacher, 41 resigns after leaving wife, kids for student, 18

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OH - MY - GOD!!!! This is exactly why i do home schooling. This is SICK!

This is not a reason to home school. If your local schools suck, you cant move to a better school district, and you've got a really good local home school network with other people who are knowledgeable about teaching subjects that you aren't, and you have access to after-school activities and sports, etc so the kids emotional growth isn't stunted, then that might be a good reason.

This incident is so incredibly rare, as in it happened in Modesto, CA and that becomes a big national story type of exceedingly rare, that you'd be better off being worried every day that your kids might get struck by lightning or eaten by sharks.

BIG_DADDY 03-04-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Simpler Red (Post 8411651)
California Teacher, 41 resigns after leaving wife, kids for student, 18

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OH - MY - GOD!!!! This is exactly why i do home schooling. This is SICK!

Um, ok.
If you haven't raised your child correctly by this point it's over anyway.

Chiefshrink 03-04-2012 02:14 PM

Just watch. If the parents are smart they will hire some PIs to find evidence this 41 y.o molester was involved not only emotionally but probably physically with her prior to her turning 18 and then prison will be his next sexcapade for life which is what he deserves. I assure at a minimum it was an emotional love interest prior to 18. And don't think for a moment with our whacked out court system that once she realizes the honeymoon is over and she got screwed not only physically but moreso taken advantage of emotionally and mentally she will go back and try to sue and lock this mofo up!!

DTLB58 03-04-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 8416268)
This is not a reason to home school. If your local schools suck, you cant move to a better school district, and you've got a really good local home school network with other people who are knowledgeable about teaching subjects that you aren't, and you have access to after-school activities and sports, etc so the kids emotional growth isn't stunted, then that might be a good reason.

This incident is so incredibly rare, as in it happened in Modesto, CA and that becomes a big national story type of exceedingly rare, that you'd be better off being worried every day that your kids might get struck by lightning or eaten by sharks.

:clap:

Hey, Back in 1957 my dad was 27, mom was 17. For that time, it was probably a horrible thing. But the truth of the matter was, my grandma was dirt poor, the kids in the house had been being abused by men that would come and go and my dad gave her a clean, safe home to live. He worked 2-3 jobs so they could have a better life. They were married 43 years until he passed. I'm sure many thought he was a cradle robber. Sometimes, it's not always about just sex.

alnorth 03-04-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 8416459)
Just watch. If the parents are smart they will hire some PIs to find evidence this 41 y.o molester was involved not only emotionally but probably physically with her prior to her turning 18 and then prison will be his next sexcapade for life which is what he deserves. I assure at a minimum it was an emotional love interest prior to 18. And don't think for a moment with our whacked out court system that once she realizes the honeymoon is over and she got screwed not only physically but moreso taken advantage of emotionally and mentally she will go back and try to sue and lock this mofo up!!

I wish her mom good luck. I really do mean it, I don't necessarily have a problem with the age difference, but I am morally repulsed by the teacher's abuse of his position of authority.

However, I doubt anything will come of it, because I don't know what a PI can do here. Unless there's a sex tape somewhere, the only way anyone's ever going to get evidence is if one of those two start talking, and they aren't that stupid.

Iowanian 03-04-2012 04:20 PM

1.Legal or not,Her daddy should have mtg teach him how to punch his spleen out.

2. Home School kids are weird. If you want your kid to be socially awkward, home school them.


Also, the photoshop isn't complete. Scott Pioli is a nice touch but the girl is 18....Peyton Manning is 18. Thereby, I demand that his face be included to improve the aforementioned image to suit today's reality.

alnorth 03-04-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8416789)
1.Legal or not,Her daddy should have mtg teach him how to punch his spleen out.

2. Home School kids are weird. If you want your kid to be socially awkward, home school them.


Also, the photoshop isn't complete. Scott Pioli is a nice touch but the girl is 18....Peyton Manning is 18. Thereby, I demand that his face be included to improve the aforementioned image to suit today's reality.

did a quick search, looks like there is no daddy. The father died in 2001.

Iowanian 03-04-2012 04:23 PM

So the sonnabitch groomed a girl with no father figure.

MTG should just go punch the guy's spleen out his no-no hole in honor of the father's memory.

alnorth 03-04-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8416803)
So the sonnabitch groomed a girl with no father figure.

MTG should just go punch the guy's spleen out his no-no hole in honor of the father's memory.

yep, sad. Likely too late for her to not be emotionally screwed-up and have any kind of normal life too, that teacher has probably been balls-deep in her every other day since she turned 17.

vailpass 03-06-2012 12:02 PM

Of course there isn't a dad. That is where strippers and girls like this come from: homes where there was something lacking in the daddy department.

Rain Man 03-06-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8421813)
Of course there isn't a dad. That is where strippers and girls like this come from: homes where there was something lacking in the daddy department.

What a societal conundrum. Do you promote having more fathers in households, or do you promote having more strippers? I can see good arguments both ways.

vailpass 03-06-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8421819)
What a societal conundrum. Do you promote having more fathers in households, or do you promote having more strippers? I can see good arguments both ways.

LMAO

Deberg_1990 04-07-2012 09:23 AM

update. Dude just got arrested yesterday for a previous underage relationship from 14 years ago.




http://www.modbee.com/2012/04/06/214...ex-enochs.html



A former Modesto high school teacher who attracted national media attention when he left his family and quit his job to move in with his 18-year-old student was arrested Friday. The charge involves alleged sexual misconduct with another teenage girl about 14 years ago.

James Hooker, 41, of Modesto was booked at the Stanislaus County Jail on one count of committing oral copulation of a person under 18, according to a criminal complaint filed Friday in Stanislaus County Superior Court.

The charge stems from an incident that occurred in August 1998, when Hooker was a teacher at Davis High School in Modesto, according to authorities.

Hooker befriended the alleged victim, a 17-year-old girl, and developed a romantic relationship with her, said police Lt. Rick Armendariz. During that relationship, Armendariz said, Hooker sexually abused the girl.

Hooker first came under scrutiny in February when his romantic relationship with Jordan Powers, an 18-year-old former Enochs High student, became public. She moved in with Hooker — her former business teacher — on Feb. 22, the day he resigned from Modesto City Schools.

The relationship became public after Powers' mother, Tammie Powers, began castigating Hooker on her Facebook page. National interest quickly took hold. Hooker and Jordan Powers appeared on ABC's "Good Morning America" and the nationally syndicated "Dr. Phil Show," and Tammie Powers went on "Nancy Grace."

On her Facebook page Friday afternoon, Tammie Powers wrote: "Yes, confirmed James Hooker is in custudy(sic). I am with my daughter as I post this."

She reunited with Jordan Powers and shortly after noon packed her daughter's things at Hooker's Modesto apartment. She told The Bee she was taking her daughter to catch a flight to an undisclosed location Friday afternoon.

Hooker appeared briefly in court Friday for his arraignment. He wore an orange-and-white jail jumpsuit and shackles on his wrists and ankles.

The hearing lasted several minutes. Several courthouse officials and attorneys gathered in the courtroom to watch. It appeared that nobody showed up to support Hooker.


Public defender


The defendant told Judge Thomas Zeff that he could not afford to hire an attorney, so the judge appointed the public defender's office to represent Hooker. He remained in custody at the jail Friday evening; his bail was set at $50,000.

Stanislaus County sheriff's officials said Hooker was in protective custody at the jail because of the nature of his criminal charge. Inmates accused of sex crimes typically are housed separately.

The Bee attempted to speak to Hooker in jail Friday afternoon, but officials said he declined news media requests to be interviewed.

Hooker appeared in court without an attorney, so he was allowed to read the criminal complaint to himself. He told the judge his bail amount was too much for "something that happened 14 years ago. It seems like an extreme amount."

Zeff entered a not guilty plea on Hooker's behalf and scheduled a pretrial hearing Tuesday. The judge will review Hooker's bail amount then and determine whether to decrease it.

Monte Vista Chapel pastor Ken Van Vliet, who has acted as spokesman for the Hooker family, said Friday afternoon the family had no comment regarding Hooker's arrest. Hooker abandoned his wife and three children to move in with Powers.

Detectives initially began to investigate Hooker after Tammie Powers reported an inappropriate relationship between her daughter and Hooker.

Read more here: http://www.modbee.com/2012/04/06/214...#storylink=cpy

Stewie 04-07-2012 09:35 AM

Isn't there a statute of limitations, or does it not apply in these types of cases?

MTG#10 04-07-2012 09:36 AM

So some chick is claiming he did this to her 14 years ago? Why is she just now coming forward?

Msmith 04-07-2012 10:15 AM

This guy is in the Self-destruction mode.

DJay23 04-07-2012 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8411022)
I definitely agree in theory that you have to keep a distance, but I've always wondered about teachers' situations and how difficult it is over the course of a career. More so at the college level, but I guess at the upper high school level as well.

You're a teacher who teaches 3 courses, and there are 10 females in each course. You get to know them over the course of 16 weeks or so. Now multiply this by 3 semesters a year over the course of a 30-year teaching career.

You've now gotten the opportunity to meet and know almost 3,000 young women. If you ascribe to the theory that there's not just one woman in the world for every man and that (for example) 1 percent of women are good marriage material for you, the odds are pretty good that you'll see 30 women over the course of that career that you fall in love with during those 16 weeks. It doesn't seem infeasible that sparks could ignite.

The numbers are different for high school, but the theory's the same. I wonder how many high school teachers and college professors, if being completely honest, would tell you that they've had a crush on X number of students in their career, even if the majority never act on it.

In my grad school, two professors ended up marrying students in my class, plus or minus a year. It was minorly scandalous, particularly since one of them had been married, but life went on for them.

cdcox, what say you?

The guy I took over for when I got my teaching job married one of his former students...middle school students. I had found a letter when I was cleaning out his desk drawers (he retired suddenly due to health issues before I got the job) from her concerning his divorce from his first wife and how she had always been fond of him. I'm certain everything was legal and their contact was well after she got out of high school because people would have said something if there was inappropriateness. The concensus was that he was pretty creepy. A colleague of mine had him as a teacher when she went to school there and she told me once that the girls all wore skirts or low cut shirts on test days so they would get a good grade.

jAZ 04-07-2012 10:31 AM

This is the least concerned I've ever found myself when reading one of these stories.

I think it's because the guy is so non-defensive about it.

If you are going to do something like this, this sounds like the most well handled case I've ever heard about.

If it were my daughter, I'd be super pissed. But just reading the story, it sounds potentially legit. It would really depend on the mental/emotional state of the girl and how he treats her.

Predarat 04-07-2012 11:05 AM

Where were these horny 18 year old female students when I was a teacher?

Deberg_1990 04-07-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 8523595)
So some chick is claiming he did this to her 14 years ago? Why is she just now coming forward?


It was probably something the girls mother dug up, ans convinced the girl to come forward somehow.
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philfree 04-07-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8523678)
It was probably something the girls mother dug up, ans convinced the girl to come forward somehow.
Posted via Mobile Device

This guys messed up but I wonder how much this chick is getting paid by the other girls mom?

KCrockaholic 04-07-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Predarat (Post 8523665)
Where were these horny 18 year old female students when I was a teacher?

I knew it. Teachers fantasize about their students.

qabbaan 04-07-2012 11:33 AM

This guy is going to die alone, a sad lonely old man who drove his family away. I hope the high school tang in his forties was worth it

Predarat 04-07-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 8523688)
I knew it. Teachers fantasize about their students.

Only the 18 yr olds.

alnorth 04-07-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 8523594)
Isn't there a statute of limitations, or does it not apply in these types of cases?

I was wondering the same thing, this isn't murder or something that can be punishable by life in prison, and the woman is now 31 years old, how could the statute of limitations have possibly not run out?

I was bored enough to look through the huge California penal code to first find the exact law he violated (since she was 17 and not either 16, or 14 or younger, it looks like the most he can get is 1 year, but it'll put him on the sex offender registry), and then to find the time allowed for a criminal complaint for that particular law. It looks to me like this guy is going to get nailed because of the priest sex abuse cases.

Apparently, they recently amended the CA statute of limitations to give victims of various sex crimes while they were minors (e.g. priests molesting boys years ago who are now adults) another shot at it. For this particular crime, before they amended it, the statute should have run out 3 years ago at the absolute latest, but the priest sex abuse laws give the DA one year to prosecute after a victim reports the sexual abuse to the cops if the statute had run out and if a small list of other requirements are met, which have probably all been met in this case.

I'm guessing this woman decided to go to the cops after seeing this guy in the news. He would have probably gotten away with it if he had stayed with his family and kept a low profile for the rest of his life.

Valiant 04-07-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 8523739)
I was wondering the same thing, this isn't murder or something that can be punishable by life in prison, and the woman is now 31 years old, how could the statute of limitations have possibly not run out?

I was bored enough to look through the huge California penal code to first find the exact law he violated (since she was 17 and not either 16, or 14 or younger, it looks like the most he can get is 1 year, but it'll put him on the sex offender registry), and then to find the time allowed for a criminal complaint for that particular law. It looks to me like this guy is going to get nailed because of the priest sex abuse cases.

Apparently, they recently amended the CA statute of limitations to give victims of various sex crimes while they were minors (e.g. priests molesting boys years ago who are now adults) another shot at it. For this particular crime, before they amended it, the statute should have run out 3 years ago at the absolute latest, but the priest sex abuse laws give the DA one year to prosecute after a victim reports the sexual abuse to the cops if the statute had run out and if a small list of other requirements are met, which have probably all been met in this case.

I'm guessing this woman decided to go to the cops after seeing this guy in the news. He would have probably gotten away with it if he had stayed with his family and kept a low profile for the rest of his life.

But now they have to prove it, isnt it done to he said she said?

Brock 04-07-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 8523624)
This is the least concerned I've ever found myself when reading one of these stories.

I think it's because the guy is so non-defensive about it.

If you are going to do something like this, this sounds like the most well handled case I've ever heard about.

If it were my daughter, I'd be super pissed. But just reading the story, it sounds potentially legit. It would really depend on the mental/emotional state of the girl and how he treats her.

Yeah, this is really a romance for the ages. ROFL

alnorth 04-07-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 8523753)
But now they have to prove it, isnt it done to he said she said?

Well sure, but that would have been the case if she was 18 and it happened last year.

Maybe she'll have some kind of love letter written by him, and if she gives a good convincing testimony in court, that could do it. Rapists also get convicted despite claiming it was consensual, it all depends on if the jury believes someone beyond a reasonable doubt.

-King- 04-07-2012 02:10 PM

Isn't 17 the age of consent in most States?

And I cant believe they arrested him 14 years later. That's pretty weak seeing as how the girl was 17.
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Deberg_1990 04-08-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8523757)
Yeah, this is really a romance for the ages. ROFL

Indeed. Shes already left him. ROFL



http://www.modbee.com/2012/04/07/214...ex-enochs.html


MODESTO -- It's over, says Jordan Powers, the 18-year-old high school student who quit school to move in with her teacher.

The 41-year-old James Hooker was arrested by Modesto police Friday on charges of sexually assaulting another teenage girl 14 years ago.

"He called me from jail and yes, I told him that we're done," Powers told ABC News on Saturday morning. "I lost everything for this guy. I lost my senior year. I gave up all my friends at high school because they didn't agree with me."

Hooker posted $50,000 bail about 5 a.m. Saturday and was released from the Stanislaus County Jail, sheriff's officials said. He avoided reporters who spotted him riding a bicycle in a park and in his apartment complex.

Until February, Powers was a student at Enochs High School and Hooker was a business teacher and adviser to several campus clubs. The former couple has said their student-teacher relationship became romantic last fall, after Powers turned 18.

The Modesto City Schools District suspended Hooker on Feb. 3 during an initial investigation. He left his wife and three daughters two weeks later and moved into an apartment in Modesto. He moved Powers out of her mother's house and into the apartment days later. He resigned his teaching position the same day and remains unemployed.

Powers' mother, Tammie Powers, vigorously opposed the relationship, using her Facebook account to berate Hooker and accuse him of wooing her daughter before she turned 18. Tammie Powers said she discovered an estimated 8,000 text messages between the two dating to last summer.

Modesto police began their own investigation, even as Hooker and Jordan Powers became overnight media celebrities. After The Bee published a story about their relationship, they appeared on ABC's "Good Morning America" and the syndicated "Dr. Phil" show to defend themselves.

Tammie Powers kept up her social media campaign, appeared opposite them on "Dr. Phil" and worked with Modesto Assemblywoman Kristin Olsen on legislation that would make such student-teacher relationships a crime in California, even if the student is 18.

Hooker's arrest Friday had nothing to do with his involvement with Jordan Powers. Police say they have developed evidence that he was involved with a 17-year-old girl in 1998 while a teacher at Davis High School in Modesto. Police say the alleged victim was attending a local high school but was not a Davis student.

Hooker appeared briefly in court Friday afternoon. He is charged with one count of oral copulation with a minor.

"He told me that he met her online and he hung out with her just as friends and then he went to her house and she came out of the bathroom naked and he only touched her boobs and her legs," Jordan Powers told ABC. "He was freaked out so he left and went home. He said nothing else happened, but all of that was a lie."

Jordan Powers has always maintained that her romance with Hooker did not begin until after her 18th birthday in September. She said in late February he was getting a divorce but that they had no plans to marry. She was working to finish her classes through independent study and had been accepted to Modesto Junior College, hoping to become a nurse.

His confession to her from jail about a prior affair was devastating.

"He did not deny it. My heart dropped. I felt betrayed," she said. "I just have a gut feeling that there's other girls."

"How could he lie to me for all these months and look me in the eye and tell me he loves me?" she told ABC. "I don't know how someone could have such a cold heart."

Read more here: http://www.modbee.com/2012/04/07/214...#storylink=cpy

ToxSocks 04-08-2012 03:25 PM

Lol.

Al Bundy 04-08-2012 03:39 PM

It didn't last??? Color me shocked.

Al Bundy 04-08-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 8523595)
So some chick is claiming he did this to her 14 years ago? Why is she just now coming forward?

Bitch gotta strike while the Lifetime Movie iron is still hot.

Setsuna 04-08-2012 09:51 PM

"How could he lie to me for all these months and look me in the eye and tell me he loves me?" she told ABC. "I don't know how someone could have such a cold heart."

Sorry sweetheart, I think looking into your eyes while your mouth is full and telling you he loves you doesn't count.

Oh and instead of walking with all her friends she gets to take her test to get her GED! Then somehow go to a college with a professor population age less than 35.

baitism 04-08-2012 10:51 PM

I didn't realize Bobby Petrino was a teacher.

Msmith 04-18-2012 11:52 AM

They get back together again. Love is known no bound.

Valiant 04-18-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Msmith (Post 8551217)
They get back together again. Love is known no bound.

Link?

Predarat 04-18-2012 12:18 PM

A sweet story with a happy ending. Best wishes to them, do I hear wedding bells?

Crush 04-18-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 8551258)
Link?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...ex-charge.html

Gonzo 04-18-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 8551258)
Link?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...ex-charge.html

Valiant 04-18-2012 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 8551306)

Thanks.

Msmith 04-18-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Predarat (Post 8551295)
A sweet story with a happy ending. Best wishes to them, do I hear wedding bells?

Somehow I sense a bit of sarcasm in your wish. The reality is that they will probably receive bits for interview in national networks, a book deal or even a movie being made for their story.


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