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Hammock Parties 03-13-2012 01:18 AM

The point is the Donks don't have anyone like Jamaal Charles or Dwayne Bowe on their offense.

R8RFAN 03-13-2012 01:21 AM

If it's any consolation, I just want you all to know, I like you the way you are so don't go changin.

Hammock Parties 03-13-2012 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8447366)
If it's any consolation, I just want you all to know, I like you the way you are so don't go changin.

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xztop12 03-13-2012 03:37 AM

Look at it this way.

Pioli left the Pats organization to get out of the shadow of BB. (A matter of wanting credit and recognition as well as control.)

Why would he sign Peyton and then be back under a shadow, getting no credit if we have success in the years Peyton's playing, as well as handing over a level of control to PM?

Red Dawg 03-13-2012 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 8447175)
Did Clark really try though or did he just say that. How does peyton turn down a free offer to visit with a team? THATS HIS BEST ****ING OPTION!!! not to mention his baller agent ummmm played for the q ueefs for 10 years and had his business in kc so im sure condon is fully aware of what we have to offer. wtf.

The thought that Clark went on TV just to try and make his fan base happy is lunacy. He really wants to meet with Manning but he can't get a visit just like alot of other teams. Not him nor Scott is too blame. They don't have shitty reps in the NFL. Manning just doesn't want to be in KC.

So, fugg him. He's old and broke with one foot out the door. He's a two year player barring injury at best. He would have been exciting at least be he's no answer for us, just hides our problem for the next two years.

htismaqe 03-13-2012 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 8447394)
The thought that Clark went on TV just to try and make his fan base happy is lunacy. He really wants to meet with Manning but he can't get a visit just like alot of other teams. Not him nor Scott is too blame. They don't have shitty reps in the NFL. Manning just doesn't want to be in KC.

So, fugg him. He's old and broke with one foot out the door. He's a two year player barring injury at best. He would have been exciting at least be he's no answer for us, just hides our problem for the next two years.

That's why EVERYBODY, from EVERY TEAM, at the Senior Bowl was talking about the dysfunction in the Chiefs FO.

Get your head out of the sand.

Chiefnj2 03-13-2012 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8447518)
That's why EVERYBODY, from EVERY TEAM, at the Senior Bowl was talking about the dysfunction in the Chiefs FO.

Get your head out of the sand.

I'm sure having a new OC every single year isn't comforting. And then choosing Daboll.

Rausch 03-13-2012 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8447522)
I'm sure having a new OC every single year isn't comforting.

Top down dumb-assery...

whoman69 03-13-2012 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 8447349)
thats a good point. id say a tad above mediocre though. just so im not completely depressed

8-8= mediocre

Chiefs 7-9

Dr. Johnny Fever 03-13-2012 08:21 AM

And he doesn't give a damn about it....


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qabbaan 03-13-2012 08:22 AM

This - Peyton Manning not being willing to even visit with arguably the most talented team wishing to court him - this is the moment we realize that the front office is the problem.

Why wouldn't he want to play here? The roster is fine. It's the coaching staff upwards that don't look attractive to a QB.

Are we surprised that Peyton Manning doesn't want to play for a head coach that washed out of cleveland and an offensive coordinator that washed out of Miami, and GM that fired an offensive coordinator during camp and spent all last year undermining his head coach? Why would we be?

You can see Manning visiting KC and Denver and then deciding that Denver was a better fit for him. That wouldn't raise eyebrows. What raises eyebrows is that there is something about this team from the coaching staff up that makes a quality free agent dismiss Kansas City out of hand.

That is a huge problem.

Rausch 03-13-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8447585)

Are we surprised that Peyton Manning doesn't want to play for a head coach that washed out of cleveland and an offensive coordinator that washed out of Miami, and GM that fired an offensive coordinator during camp and spent all last year undermining his head coach? Why would we be?

I don't think the HC is the problem...

WhiteWhale 03-13-2012 08:25 AM

Boy this is one whiny group...

Molitoth 03-13-2012 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 8447312)
Yet they knocked off the defending champions while the Chiefs collectively shit down their own leg at home.

Any given sunday.

1 loss nor 1 win does justifies a crown.

Messier 03-13-2012 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 8447591)
Boy this is one whiny group...

You would be to if your team hadn't won a playoff game in 18 years, and you had the cheapest owner in the leauge.

- Normal CP responce

Setsuna 03-13-2012 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8447125)
pioli did nothing wrong. we're going to be fine without that broke dick qb

But if you landed him, you'd be saying "Superbowl!" STFU. ROFL

suds79 03-13-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8447600)
But if you landed him, you'd be saying "Superbowl!" STFU. ROFL

Yep. Some fans will always spin it to be positive towards their point of view.

We get Peyton? "SB bound."

We don't? "He's done anyways."

Radar Chief 03-13-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8447585)
This - Peyton Manning not being willing to even visit with arguably the most talented team wishing to court him - this is the moment we realize that the front office is the problem.

Why wouldn't he want to play here? The roster is fine. It's the coaching staff upwards that don't look attractive to a QB.

Are we surprised that Peyton Manning doesn't want to play for a head coach that washed out of cleveland and an offensive coordinator that washed out of Miami, and GM that fired an offensive coordinator during camp and spent all last year undermining his head coach? Why would we be?

You can see Manning visiting KC and Denver and then deciding that Denver was a better fit for him. That wouldn't raise eyebrows. What raises eyebrows is that there is something about this team from the coaching staff up that makes a quality free agent dismiss Kansas City out of hand.

That is a huge problem.

Ever think that maybe it’s because the fans suck? :Poke:

boogblaster 03-13-2012 08:36 AM

yea poligrip sucks the big-one .....

htismaqe 03-13-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 8447613)
Ever think that maybe it’s because the fans suck? :Poke:

ROFL

That's why the call-in shows are STILL talking about Manning days after we've been reportedly eliminated, right?

htismaqe 03-13-2012 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8447599)
You would be to if your team hadn't won a playoff game in 18 years, and you had the cheapest owner in the leauge.

- Normal CP responce

Is that not a legitimate beef?

There's one SURE way to eliminate that response and make sure it never appears again.

Guess what that is?

Oh yeah, WIN A PLAYOFF GAME.

htismaqe 03-13-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8447522)
I'm sure having a new OC every single year isn't comforting. And then choosing Daboll.

I'm not sure why it would matter since Manning is essentially his own offensive coordinator.

But yeah, the front office here is a mess.

gblowfish 03-13-2012 08:45 AM

Talks pretty much fell through when Pioli insisted on bugging Manning's cell phone.

Radar Chief 03-13-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8447619)
ROFL

That's why the call-in shows are STILL talking about Manning days after we've been reportedly eliminated, right?

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BoneKrusher 03-13-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 8447129)
He can go **** a jar of grape jelly
then shove his purple cock in a lightsocket
If he sticks with Cassel another year

i second this

Rausch 03-13-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 8447642)

LMAO

L.A. Chieffan 03-13-2012 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8447600)
But if you landed him, you'd be saying "Superbowl!" STFU. ROFL

i say that already. we dont need some broke dick has been

htismaqe 03-13-2012 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8447677)
i say that already. we dont need some broke dick has been

We've got Matt Cassel!

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L.A. Chieffan 03-13-2012 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8447691)
We've got Matt Cassel!

straight up. at only 5mil and one year removed from probowl and all those weapons returning... watch out!

lcarus 03-13-2012 09:23 AM

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Radar Chief 03-13-2012 09:36 AM

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CoMoChief 03-13-2012 10:04 AM

Nick Wright was reporting that main reason why we didn't get a meeting w/ Manning is because Tom Condon has a beef w/ Pioli because of him low balling his clients. Now the Chiefs are desperate and are sending in Len Dawson to change his mind I guess.

Who on the Chiefs currently is represented by Condon?



And if this is true.....I can't be surprised by this at all. I've said all along that the reason why we wouldn't get Manning was because of the incompetence of our GM/front office...including Hunt.

Chiefnj2 03-13-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 8447831)
Nick Wright was reporting that main reason why we didn't get a meeting w/ Manning is because Tom Condon has a beef w/ Pioli because of him low balling his clients. Now the Chiefs are desperate and are sending in Len Dawson to change his mind I guess.

Who on the Chiefs currently is represented by Condon?



And if this is true.....I can't be surprised by this at all. I've said all along that the reason why we wouldn't get Manning was because of the incompetence of our GM/front office...including Hunt.

Isn't Cassel represented by Condon's firm?

Setsuna 03-13-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8447677)
i say that already. we dont need some broke dick has been

So when he was released, from day ONE you said this?

CoMoChief 03-13-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8447889)
Isn't Cassel represented by Condon's firm?

dunno, if so thats prob the exception to the rule. Cassel is from NE and at the time I'd be willing to bet no one would have given Cassel that kinda coin.

htismaqe 03-13-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8447889)
Isn't Cassel represented by Condon's firm?

No, somebody responded to me earlier that the report from last week was wrong. Cassel is represented by Athlete's First.

gblowfish 03-13-2012 10:32 AM

Scott don't give a damn bout his bad reputation.....

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L.A. Chieffan 03-13-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8447916)
So when he was released, from day ONE you said this?

your a clown, cassel is the only qb we need. all we have to do is upgrade our line, add a couple of pieces to defense and we're set

Chiefnj2 03-13-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 8447831)
Nick Wright was reporting that main reason why we didn't get a meeting w/ Manning is because Tom Condon has a beef w/ Pioli because of him low balling his clients. Now the Chiefs are desperate and are sending in Len Dawson to change his mind I guess.

Complete BS when you think about it. Condon isn't doing crap. Manning is deciding who, what and where. If Manning wanted KC, there isn't anything Condon could do about it.

Radar Chief 03-13-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8447929)
Scott don't give a damn bout his bad reputation.....

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lcarus 03-13-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8447931)
your a clown, cassel is the only qb we need. all we have to do is upgrade our line, add a couple of pieces to defense and we're set

After all this time, I STILL don't know if you're serious or not.

Okie_Apparition 03-13-2012 10:38 AM

Don't be ****ing silly
If you don't think they'd be buyer's remorse if they signed Peyton
You DO NOT know this board

Dr. Gigglepants 03-13-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8447949)
After all this time, I STILL don't know if you're serious or not.

At first it was a display of trolling brilliance, now I think he's trolled himself into believing it. If he goes on much further I'm afraid it will be too late to save him.
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CoMoChief 03-13-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8447940)
Complete BS when you think about it. Condon isn't doing crap. Manning is deciding who, what and where. If Manning wanted KC, there isn't anything Condon could do about it.

One would like to think this but I think you might be forgetting a couple things.

Condon is based in KC. Hell, he was a former Chief, and one would have to think he kinda has some knowledge as to how this organization operates from a front office standpoint.

Secondly, this is the first time that Manning's had to deal with FA. You would think that Manning ultimately calls the shots, as do all players theoretically, but you can't say that his agent doesn't have any input at all.

Chiefnj2 03-13-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 8448116)

Condon is based in KC. Hell, he was a former Chief, and one would have to think he kinda has some knowledge as to how this organization operates from a front office standpoint.

Condon didn't play with Pioli or Clark.

CoMoChief 03-13-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8448123)
Condon didn't play with Pioli or Clark.

doesn't matter. there's an obvious connection there w/ the organization. hell he's stayed in KC all of these years has he not? This is a guy that's probably known Clark since he was a teenager.

Epic Fail 007 03-13-2012 11:34 AM

He only has a a bad rep to those of you who are immature bastards and don`t understand a damn thing. Or to those of you who just want to bitch to bitch. Your right small minds are not going to like or understand him like alot of you. Yes cassels a big mistake & haley but beyond that nothing to cry about.

BoneKrusher 03-13-2012 11:46 AM

was listening to Colin on the Herd earlier and a Chiefs fan called in on the Manning Sweepstakes saying "he thought Manning was a better fit in KC" and he didnt understand Peyton leaning towards Denver.
Colin replied with but KC dont have an Elway.

he also said the Todd Haley situation didnt help the Chiefs chances either.


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