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Rasputin 03-18-2012 01:01 AM

**** no! He made us watch Cassel and then and then ****ING PALKO wtf.

BigMeatballDave 03-18-2012 02:14 AM

I'm so glad he finally addressed the QB...

DTLB58 03-18-2012 03:56 AM

NO.

I thought with all the fan fare the Chiefs would have been a much better team by now.

He whiffed on his first head coach hire.

No Franchise QB. Not even a decent freaking back-up at the games most
valuable position.

The Chiefs are still the laughing stock of the league in some circles. Playoff wins, Can't get Peyton to even come visit and that nasty article in the Star.

NO real NT in the 3-4 = Pathetic.

Fishpicker 03-18-2012 04:08 AM

He's better than Carl. He isn't trying to convert players from S to CB. And he's working within a budget. Wiretaps are pretty expensive without a court order or the NSA to back you.

Fritz88 03-18-2012 04:22 AM

True fans Unite
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Fritz88 03-18-2012 04:24 AM

Knomo's vote shouldn't be counted. He's an infidel.
Neither should Clay's because he redefines flip flopping.
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DTLB58 03-18-2012 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 8466527)
Its quite easy to point at any free agent QB and say we should've signed him. Its a whole nother thing to bring them in and convince him that out of all 32 NFL teams he could play for, ours is the best fit.

That's HIS job. Talent acquisition. He has said it time after time. If He fails to do said above, he won't have a job long. Why do you think the Winston thing drug on for so long when he had other visits scheduled? Pioli knew how important this acquisition was to not only the team but his job.

Fritz88 03-18-2012 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 8465929)
Roster 2009 --

Qb - Huard, Croyle, Thigpen, Gray
Rb - Johnson, Charles, Smith, Battle, Cox
Wr - Bowe, Darling, Bradley, Webb, Franklin, Robinson
Te - Gonzalez, Cottam, Merrit
Ot - Albert, McIntosh, Taylor, Richardson, Carnaham
Og - Waters, Smith, Jones, Washington
C - Niswanger
De - Hali, McBride, Babin, Gilberry, Studebaker
Dt - Dorsey, Tyler, Edwards, Boone, Lokey
Lb - DJ, Edwards, D. Williams, Pat Thomas, Boiman, Gatewood, Dacus
Cb - Surtain, Flowers, Carr, Legget, Macklin, Colclough
S - Pollard, Morgan
K - Barth
P - Colquit

Roster March 2012 --with draft looming.

Qb - Cassel, Quinn, Stanzi
Rb - Charles, Hillis
Wr - Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, McCluster, Copper
Te - Moeaki, Boss, Maneri
Ot - Albert, Winston, Mims
Og - Lilja, Asomoah, Harris
C - Hudson, Bruggeman
De - Dorsey, Jackson, Bailey, Blair, Patterson
Nt - Gordon, Powe, Toribio
Lb - Hali, DJ, Houston, Belcher, Studebaker, Greenwood, Sheffield, Miller
Cb - Flowers, Routt, Arenas, Brown
S - Berry, Lewis, Washington
K - Succup
P - Colquit


Upgrades across the board for me.

If this is not enough then I am pretty sure you've drunken OTWP's sperm.
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KCUnited 03-18-2012 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8466483)
3. we still don't know about his ability to hire a coach: Haley was a dumpster fire, and Crennel - while admired, and a great DC - has a history of failure as a HC

I think this is an important factor for me to grade Pioli properly. A while ago, Soren Petro did a historic record breakdown of teams that went from an iron fist coach (Haley) to a nice guy, player friendly coach (Romeo) and across the board the teams responded well in the first year and then took a complete shit the following years.

notorious 03-18-2012 07:42 AM

Matt Cassel.

****.

notorious 03-18-2012 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 8467352)
I think this is an important factor for me to grade Pioli properly. A while ago, Soren Petro did a historic record breakdown of teams that went from an iron fist coach (Haley) to a nice guy, player friendly coach (Romeo) and across the board the teams responded well in the first year and then took a complete shit the following years.

Player friendly coaches always fall apart.


This team is ****ed for 3 years, at the very least.

ThatRaceCardGuy 03-18-2012 08:14 AM

NO. If you still have Cassel as your starter with Brady Q backing him up you're failing

Shaid 03-18-2012 08:27 AM

We need a QB but you can't discount the improvement in the roster the past few years. We're slowly building a pretty strong team. Also, I'm pretty sure Pioli knows Cassel isn't getting it done and this is his put up or shut up year. If he doesn't perform and Pioli sticks with him again, I'm done with him.

chiefzilla1501 03-18-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 8467455)
We need a QB but you can't discount the improvement in the roster the past few years. We're slowly building a pretty strong team. Also, I'm pretty sure Pioli knows Cassel isn't getting it done and this is his put up or shut up year. If he doesn't perform and Pioli sticks with him again, I'm done with him.

Are you pretty sure of that? Because last time I checked, he dumped Kyle Orton even though he was cheaper than Cassel. He promised us competition, instead he went hard after a backup. There was never any talk of being interested in Matt Flynn. Never any talk of the Chiefs being interested in RGIII. There was talk of interest in Henne, but never any mention of him considering a visit wit the Chiefs.

Let's be real here. The Chiefs seem to think that the only thing that would take the job away from Matt Cassel is a player as good as Peyton Manning.

chiefzilla1501 03-18-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8467385)
Player friendly coaches always fall apart.


This team is ****ed for 3 years, at the very least.

This is why I hate hate hate the Romeo hire.

Scott Pioli is building the New England Patriots and he's doing it admirably. Somewhere, he became convinced that the Patriots could be the Patriots without Brady or Bellichick.

L.A. Chieffan 03-18-2012 08:44 AM

A++ all the way.

There's really nothing that he could've done better.

-King- 03-18-2012 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8467488)
This is why I hate hate hate the Romeo hire.

Scott Pioli is building the New England Patriots and he's doing it admirably. Somewhere, he became convinced that the Patriots could be the Patriots without Brady or Bellichick.

The Patriots have NEVER had the talent we have.
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carlos3652 03-18-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8467487)
Are you pretty sure of that? Because last time I checked, he dumped Kyle Orton even though he was cheaper than Cassel.

lol wut?

Orton is more expensive than Casell in 2012? And Casell contract is up in 2013 and Orton is up in 2017. :hmmm:

Simplicity 03-18-2012 09:01 AM

Wished he woulda waited to see how the Alex Smith issue goes down and not be so trigger happy on Brady Quitter. BUT I do like that he saw the holes at the RB spot and OT spot and filled them with quality/elite players. I'm gonna say he is going on the right track. But what I don't understand is having 3 qbs when we only activate 2 a game two of them are below average and one who hasn't gotten a chance to play yet. I do have to say that I am excited(bad or good) to see how Matt Cassel/Stanzi/Quinn play and I do hope all them, depening who starts, plays very well.

chiefzilla1501 03-18-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8467492)
A++ all the way.

There's really nothing that he could've done better.

They should have signed Orton and cut Cassel.
In a year where they had tons of cap space, they chose to go cheap on an inferior, older CB. Stanford Routt has probably 3 years left in his legs. Routt will be 29 in July. Carr will be 26 in May. And Carr didn't even break the bank. He was paid a reasonable contract.
And the fact that the Chiefs whiffed on the Peyton Manning sweepstakes despite being interested, yes, that's a very big problem.
They completely whiffed on Paul Solilai. So we STILL don't have a Nose Tackle.

I can't believe how much excitement there is over the Chiefs upgrading with a backup RB and a Right Tackle. Those are two definite Super Bowl positions for sure.

The Chiefs get a C purely on the QB situation. They get a D when you factor everything else.

loochy 03-18-2012 09:23 AM

Why isn't there a "kinda" vote?

I'm mostly good with him except for the giant WTF situation that is QB. I also hate his stupid secret CIA dumbassery and I think he was the instigator in the Haley situation.

L.A. Chieffan 03-18-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8467528)
They should have signed Orton and cut Cassel.
In a year where they had tons of cap space, they chose to go cheap on an inferior, older CB. Stanford Routt has probably 3 years left in his legs. Routt will be 29 in July. Carr will be 26 in May. And Carr didn't even break the bank. He was paid a reasonable contract.
And the fact that the Chiefs whiffed on the Peyton Manning sweepstakes despite being interested, yes, that's a very big problem.
They completely whiffed on Paul Solilai. So we STILL don't have a Nose Tackle.

I can't believe how much excitement there is over the Chiefs upgrading with a backup RB and a Right Tackle. Those are two definite Super Bowl positions for sure.

The Chiefs get a C purely on the QB situation. They get a D when you factor everything else.


Youre a troll. GTFO

L.A. Chieffan 03-18-2012 09:29 AM

Carr getting 10 million as opposed to Routt getting 6? I guarantee Routt will put up better numbers than Carr. Manning is a bust. Solilai resigned with his own team and to be honest hes pretty overrated. Wipe out the sand

Shox 03-18-2012 09:45 AM

I don't know how anyone can say Pioli/Hunt are not doing a good job. They have steadily made this team better, with the exception of the first draft which was not very good. But you have to give them a pass because they got a very late start.

1. Drafts have been good (not great).
2. FA have been very, very good. Quality players without way over paying and killing the cap sitaution.
3. Coaches, an error was made with Haley, but again it was a late start to the process. And they did not hang on for 3,4,5 years hoping things got better. They recognized Haley did not have the right personality and moved on. They have not been shy about bringing in quality coaches and I think Romeo was the right guy for the job given the situaiton.
4. By far the biggest critisim is the QB situation. Assuming they do not give Cassel a free pass this season, I don't see how you can really complain about it either. Name one QB they have passed on in the draft you can say was a huge error; 2009 Shanchez looks to be nothing more than an average QB at best; 2010 everyone was begging for Clasen which turned out to be a very good pass on the Chiefs part. There is not any QB you can look at today and say they should have taken. Stafford and Bradford where #1 picks the Chiefs were never going be able to trade up for.

What about FA? Again I don't see a single FA QB you can point to and say the Chiefs should have went and got. The fact is franchise QB are very, very hard to find. Reaching for one you don't think is going to be that kind of guy (and history says he won't) only sets back the franchise. You are much better off building a great roster and then finding the diamond in the rough.....a Big Ben or Tom Brady.

Pioli may be arrogant just like King Carl, but he knows how to build a football team. And for all of the complaints about Clark being a tight ass I totally disagree. Yes, he probably does look for value in contracts, but I don't think that is a bad thing. You must manage the cap in the NFL or you just waste your draft picks when you have to let them walk away. Clark has spent money on some big name coaches and he is spending some on some great FA.

All of you critics need to come forward and confess you were wrong. Give a little love for the roster Pioli/Hunt are building, and most of all quit the complaining about absolutely every thing that happens.

Direckshun 03-18-2012 10:32 AM

Drafts have been very good? Not great?

Pioli has been a Top 5 drafter since arriving in Kansas City. And that's including the 2009 draft.

whoman69 03-18-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8467492)
A++ all the way.

There's really nothing that he could've done better.

Your schtick is getting old.

whoman69 03-18-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8467560)
I'm a troll. GTFO

FYP

L.A. Chieffan 03-18-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8467781)
FYP

Owning fools since 2006 baby

whoman69 03-18-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8467568)
Carr getting 10 million as opposed to Routt getting 6? I guarantee Routt will put up better numbers than Carr. Manning is a bust. Solilai resigned with his own team and to be honest hes pretty overrated. Wipe out the sand

Routt will put up bigger numbers...for penalties, TDs given up. With all that cap room, Pioli wants to take a downgrade over 3% of our salary cap.

Manning will have a bust in Canton. You stating definitively that he will fail is a total joke.

You can't know much about Soliai if you can't even spell his name right. Is he better than Gordon? Right now that is our starter.

L.A. Chieffan 03-18-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8467796)
Routt will put up bigger numbers...for penalties, TDs given up. With all that cap room, Pioli wants to take a downgrade over 3% of our salary cap.

Manning will have a bust in Canton. You stating definitively that he will fail is a total joke.

You can't know much about Soliai if you can't even spell his name right. Is he better than Gordon? Right now that is our starter.

Routt has consistently been in the top of CBs in the league. You dont know what the **** you're talking about. I hope I dont make you cry into your Captain Piccard life size plushy.

RealSNR 03-18-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8467560)
Youre a troll. GTFO

Genius. Masterful. Inspiring.

It's beautiful!

L.A. Chieffan 03-18-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8467913)
Genius. Masterful. Inspiring.

It's beautiful!

Bansky aint got nothin on me

Fairplay 03-18-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8465815)
Are you waiting on a second and third receiver? yes
An elite run game? yes
A good offensive line? yes
A top ten defense? yes
A great pair of bookend passrushers? yes
An elite secondary? yes

I'm waiting on a NT and QB too.

But let's get ****ing real here.

I want it all.

BoneKrusher 03-18-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 8467935)
I want it all.

yep.
and i want it now! :p

Fritz88 03-18-2012 11:30 AM

Haters ganna hate.
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notorious 03-18-2012 11:34 AM

Pioli aced the multiple choice part of the test, but when he got to the Essay question he doodled pictures of airplanes crashing into the ground.

Okie_Apparition 03-18-2012 12:22 PM

Everyone wants a franchise QB & that QB is going to take close to 1/5 of your cap space
Pioli slowly is proving he can manage that tight wire act
PeytonManning you're an idiot

Rausch 03-18-2012 12:24 PM

I'd say he's earned a C+.

It's clear that he was able to bring in talent but he hired a ****ing chimp to paint the Mona Lisa...

whoman69 03-18-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8467923)
Bansky aint got nothin on me

Especially not self congratulations and ego.


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