Oh - good point.

JLC article. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...und-the-league

No chance.

But it'd stack our receivers a ridiculous amount.

It would also speak volumes about Bowe....

I don't see it either. No way. No how.

If we draft Floyd......say bye to Bowe.

A HOF'er is a HOF'er?

Great. You take Jan Stenerud. I'll take Joe Montana.

Yup.

Drafting Floyd would piss me off.

I have to think they'll trade down if Floyd is on the board at 1.11.

too cheap to sign bowe...draft floyd...

I'm hopeful we'll get to see Michael Irvin all hopped up on some sort of drug tonight

Bobby Bioucher at #11. Maybe trade down a few spots and he's still available. Maybe.

Bill Williamson's latest mock for the Chiefs.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...y-mock-draft-3

Holy garbage. I would be ok with three of his picks.

Round Pick Player Position School
1 11 David DeCastro OG Stanford
2 44 Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State
3 74 Josh Chapman DT Alabama
4 107 Audie Cole LB North Carolina State
5 146 Juron Criner WR Arizona
6 182 Cyrus Gray RB Texas A&M
7 218 Danny Coale WR Virginia Tech
7 238 Sean Cattouse S California

How many hot dogs could Williamson eat in one sitting?

If they keep Bowe and draft Floyd.........****.

Bowe, Baldwin and Floyd? **** Breaston.

I wouldn't mind Chapman and Criner. Don't know much about 6-7th guys.

I would be good with picks 11, 44 and 182

I'd say that there is a 75% chance that we trade down.

I agree. I think we trade down into the 16-20 range and still take DeCastro

Ugh. Cousins in the 2nd?

If I never hear the name DeCastro again after tonight, I will die a happy man.

****ing this.

**** DeCastro.
**** Kuechly.
**** Cousins.

What if we draft him and he makes it to 13 pro bowls and wins 5 superbowls and he becomes the greatest lineman in the history of the game?

What would be so bad having a potential ALL Pro OG lining up for us for the next 8-10 years?

Matt Cassel sucks.

Then I give you permission to send me through the spanking machine.

The only one I'd be upset with our #1 pick would be Poe.

McShay just was asked if we would possibly trade and he said "No, the Chiefs like Barron"....wut?

I dont get the DeCastro hate.

Hey, Direckshun. You mean to tell me you'd draft a 5-tech at 11, but not an All-Pro G. WTF?

That's what I'd tell you.

5T is an incredibly important position on a 3-4 defense.

Guard is... not that important of a position. And even then, surrounded with good talent, Lilja was part of the offensive line that led the NFL in rushing.

Lilja can be upgraded, but it's not pressing, and the upgrade there doesn't warrant #11.

I'm lukewarm on Brockers, but there's no doubt he's a perfect fit for this defense in ways Dorsey simply can't be. And won't be, in 2013.

EST....Starts at 3am for me

Do you really expect the Chiefs to give Dorsey another top 5 type salary?

Do you expect Dorsey to say 'i was overdrafted, pay me like a 2nd rounder'?

one or the other has to happen or he's gone

Juliette Lewis is one ugly bitch.

I'm not opposed to Brockers. I'd just be really really underwhelmed, that's all.

If Tannehill is already off the board and no other big-time player from the top 10 has fallen to 11 (like Kalil) then if that's what the Chiefs have to do, I guess that's what they have to do.

I just hope they use the rest of the draft to get some really awesome players in depth positions of need: S, OLB, TE, OT, and RB to be precise.

Brockers plus maybe Trumaine Johnson, DeAngelo Peterson, Robert Turbin, Andrew Datko, an OLB somewhere... I'd be satisfied.

Dumbass.

McShay is an idiot. If Pioli can get something good to trade down, he's doing it.

She lookes good in your sig, but how old it that?

She doesnt look good today.

10 Top Drafts, 2008 - 2010

3. Kansas City Chiefs (2008)

Starters Found: Glenn Dorsey (DE), Branden Albert (T), Brandon Flowers (CB), Jamaal Charles (RB), Brandon Carr (CB) and Barry Richardson (T)

Contributions From: Brad Cottam (TE) and Will Franklin (WR)

Best Pick: Jamaal Charles

Summary: Wow. Six starters, most of whom have been so since Day 1. Finding one cornerback in a draft is rare, but to land two starters is near impossible. That alone makes the draft successful, but factor in landing a franchise left tackle and perhaps the most dangerous running back in the league? It makes you look past how Barry Richardson has played, and gets you looking at Dorsey for what he is: a player who may have been over-drafted but has become a seriously important part of their base package.

5. Kansas City Chiefs (2010)

Starters Found: Eric Berry (S), Jon Asamoah (G), Tony Moeaki (TE) and Kendrick Lewis (S)

Contributions From: Dexter McCluster (WR) and Javier Arenas (CB)

Best Pick: Eric Berry

Summary: Something of an asterisk on this class, because arguably the two best players have played one year’s worth of football in the NFL. Still enough was seen of Berry and Moeaki to back them, while the Chiefs also found late round starters in Asamoah and Lewis, both of whom have looked extremely comfortable on the field. Throw in Dexter McCluster and the excellent Javier Arenas (not just a fine punt returner but solid slot cornerback) and you’ve got a draft class that significantly upgraded the roster.

6. Oakland Raiders (2010)

Starters Found: Rolando McClain (LB), Lamarr Houston (DE) and Jared Veldheer (T)

Contributions From: Jacoby Ford (WR) and Stevie Brown (S)

Best Pick: Jared Veldheer

Summary: McClain hasn’t always impressed Raider Nation, but he’s performed well enough to be a success without having the kind of impact you might want from a Top 10 overall pick. The real stars of this class come later: Veldheer proving an absolute steal in the third and Houston being a constant producer since Day 1. While Brown wasn’t a stud and was eventually released, Ford has brought with him playmaking on special teams and offense that has made a real difference.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...fts-2008-2010/

You can get a solid 5-tech in later rounds, just as you can a G.

That maybe so I don't care, she looks good in my sig like you said. She has looked good in the videos I posted of her rocking out in the random music thread too.

5tech in a 2-gap 3-4 defense IS THE GUARD of the defense


ROFL

POE

You're wrong.

The defensive line faces systemic disadvantages in the 3-4 that no other position on a defense faces, with the possible exception of corner.

You're outnumbered, out-sized, and responsible for more space than your 4-3 counterparts. You have the size of a defensive tackle but you're not taking on smaller, less athletic, less talented guards and centers, you're taking on extremely athletic and more powerful tackles. And unlike the nose tackle, a great DE can stay in all three downs.

If anything, it's like the left tackle of the defense.

For the record, I much prefer the all day Saturday and Sunday drafts. This new format sucks.

+1

I agree ****ing bull shit how they have it now. They keep ****ing things up for us.

What a load this is.

5 tech's and DT's are basically interchangable parts.

It seems the Chiefs are the only ones who believe in investing top 10 picks in a position most other 3-4 teams fill later in the draft.

Couldn't agree more.

This is so stupid. The first round ends tonight and everyone is all pumped up ready to keep going and the freaking thing ends!

I don't see it ever going back.

The ratings for Thursday night are expected to top 50 million viewers.

This x infinity.

HATE the current format.

yep, which means you get the same results from all but UBER players.

unless you are getting reggie white you might as well just get blue collar workhouse type guy in the middle rounds.

constantly flushing 1st round picks down the sinkhole 5tech position trying to find a guy that can overcome the inherent disadvantage that the scheme causes is just a waste.

we will get better bang for our bucks filling up other positions until we get lucky in the mid rounds or Reggie White falls into our laps.

Yale thing?

Us and the bastard franchise that sent our GM to us.

All my buddies would get together on Saturday and play poker while the draft was on and make fun of each others teams shitty draft picks and get sloshed. Good times. **** goddel

On what planet?

It means if you don't have really good players there, you get your ass handed to you.

we disagree ... completely

right now Pioli is going after the 5-tech position like most teams go after quarterbacks. He's dumping money,picks etc into the position like it's gold while he ignores nose tackle and Quarterback.

I hate it

in 10 years we will have four top 10,1st rd 5techs on our roster while still having tyler palko's son at QB.

it's dam stupid

Yep. It's like the 2nd-most viewed NFL telecast after the Super Bowl or some crazy shit...

Thursday is the most watched tv night of the week outside of Sunday evening. Its a ratings machine for the NFL.

Well you're shifting the argument.

I was debating whether 3-4 DEs are very important. So were you, until just now when you shifted to "should we spend our picks there rather than NT or QB."

The Steelers, Jets, Patriots... many 3-4 teams flush 1st round picks at the DE position, because it's incredibly important.

not trying to shift anything

All positions are important but it's also position relative.

Why take a 5tech in the 1st round and maybe improve your defense a fraction when you could take another position where you could improve your TEAM a bunch?

when shooting for the moon i would rather draft 5tech in the 2nd/3rd round and hope we hit instead of flushing first round picks and huge money down the drain hoping we find reggie white.

Yes!!!

one hundred and forty-seventh!!!!

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Handful of teams actively doing last-minute work last on Baylor WR Kendall Wright, trying to figure out where they need to be to take him.

interesting to see where Wright goes

i've seen him projected as high/low as mid 1st to 3rd rd

Well, you're not getting it. I've explained it a few times why the 5T is important, and instead of refuting any of my points, you just reassert your conclusion without backing it up.

The length of this conversation has officially exceeded my interest in it.

oh, i understand

we just disagree

Are we going to wait until our pick is made to freak out, or should we just go ahead start our meltdown now?

I'd go ahead and commence with the shitting of the pants.

But, but, but I had them taking Joe Schmo in my homemade mock draft :deevee:!!!!!!!!

Would you trade our pick for new England's 27 and 31st picks? They're reportedly interested in trading up for Barron.
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only if they take Cassel back

And throw in Mallett.

They'd need to throw in their #1 for next year.

Hai guys!

HAY GUYZ WE DRAFT DAT GUARD YET?!?