Maybe Flowers is just kind of a baby. Seems to always be "hurt" but when it comes time to play he ends up playing.

Yeah, the fact that noone is saying what the injury is has me concerned.

The Chiefs will have to release whether or not Flowers is probable, questionable, doubtful, or out, 4 or 5 days before the game starts. And I highly doubt Flowers would play if he doesn't practice a week before the game starts.

I don't see how hiding this helps the Chiefs at all. All it does is make the injury seem more and more severe.

Better in coverage, better hands, better tackler, and better in run support... What am I missing? Aside from being injury prone..

I think you mean

"cassel sucks"

Gonzales did the same stuff.

Hopefully, it's just something minor that they dont want getting worse, so they are just shutting it down until next week.

peyton manning

It's situations like these that make people question the silent nature of the Chiefs front office BS.



I know it doesn't matter, but the fans deserve to know something.

I hear these myths all the time. Flowers was a better tackler. He was not as good in coverage. Carr was faster. Carr went against the #1s just as much as Flowers and they all move around nowadays. Flowers peaked long ago and Carr hasn't peaked yet. That's why he got so much money. After this year, I doubt there will even be an argument anymore. Flowers is a really good cornerback but he's not in the top 10. If you go back and read the play by plays, he gets targeted alot at the end of games.

Well, it's been 3 weeks of "shutting it down" which makes me think it's more serious than what's being reported. I really hope you're right though

If its something major, I tend to think they wouldn't have let him keep trying to practice.


But these are also the same people who ran EB back out after he tore his ACL.

Yep.

Patriot. ****ing. Way.

Nothing wrong with this.

Not really. How many games did Tony G miss???

You get great depth by drafting guys, not by signing old washed up hacks.

The Chiefs are drafting guys. Just be patient. Christ.

Who was the analyst that said basically the same exact thing? I think it was Trent Green (paraphrasing: “I chatted with the offensive coordinator of the other team and he assured me that they were NOT throwing to Carr’s side, they wanted to go after Flowers”)

Well I guess it's time to start looking at the 2013 draft and throw this season in the toilet already according to all the doom and gloomers around here....

Bronco's used to be the best at this

That couldn't possibly be because Flowers more often than is covering the other teams best WR could it? So at the end of games you eventually need to go to your best players to get a play made. Thus creating the illusion they are targeting Flowers but they are actually targeting their best WR.

Preseason? Couldn't tell you.

It is STILL preseason.

Lewis and Flowers will play week 1http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9176/kanyehappy.png

What did they ever say about Lewis? I've been busy the last couple days.

In fairness, how could they possibly know Berry tore his ACL when he 1st came off the field?
Players limp off the field all the time then go back in after a few plays.



I'll worry about Flowers next month if he's not in the opener.

No surgery and it's a different injury then what he had surgery on during the offseason.

It's for sure no surgery? How long are they thinking he will miss?




Would you guys kick the tires on Shawn Merriman?

If they have even an ounce of doubt in their mind that the knee is not sound, it is their job to keep him off the field.

Stop making excuses.

Awesome.....our 2 best players on defense (not counting DJ) prob won't suit up for week 1.

Gotta agree here. In these situations, it's not up to the player. If it's hurt, doesn't matter what he says.



If he tore it the first time, there is no excuse for him to be back on the field.

No Injured-Reserve For Kendrick Lewis

August 19, 2012 - Bob Gretz |

Romeo Crennel said Sunday evening that Kendrick Lewis is “going to be down for a little bit,” but the starting free safety is not a candidate to go on the injured-reserve list because of the shoulder injury he suffered Saturday night in St. Louis.

“He’ll probably be in a sling for a couple days and then we will start rehabbing and see how quickly he can come along,” Crennel told the media. “He is not an IR candidate.”

Crennel said that no surgery was required for the injury. It’s the same shoulder that he injured last season and underwent surgery once the season was over. The head coach confirmed it was the same shoulder, but a different injury than the one he dealt with last year.

“He has to rest the shoulder and have it immobilized for a little bit before we can start some movement and exercise,” said Crennel. “We will see how quickly we can get him back.”

Yes, I'm going to listen to someone who has an agenda...

Milkman debunked this bullshit anyway.

He hasn't been the same since he had to stop roiding up.

Gotta say, Clay might have been right on this one. If it's the same thing DMC had and LJ, he might miss the whole season.

If it is torn it is torn. Not like he was going to injure it more.

How would they know anything was tore initially?

Players get hurt, come off, then tweak again. That's it.

Stop fueling Clays dumbassery and acting like there is some kind of conspiracy.

This is exactly how it was with LJ.

At first it seemed very innocuous...oh, it's just a bruise...he'll be back soon....weeks started piling up....

:shake:

Then give him some sauce! He'll at least get a few games in before they nail him with another test. By then it won't matter because our regulars will be back.

There's no conspiracy.

It's just the way this regime does things.

They lie about injuries.

I read "if" and "might." There is nothing to indicate this is an injury that will even keep him out of the first game much less the whole season.

If Matt Cassel plays like Aaron Rodgers we might win the Super Bowl

I doubt it's a sprain.

How long has he been hurt?

It's also noteworthy (in clays favor) that there was a report that BF was getting it checked out by multiple doctors to see why it hasn't healed.

I don't buy it for a second that the team doctors would miss something to the point where the player would feel compelled to get other opinions.

Sure does smell like the team is brushing something under the rug...

As I said, dumbassery.

LMAO

do not have a good feeling about this. at all.

Good deal.


I bet, (like I said 5 times in the game thread) it was a stinger or atleast thats what it sounds like.


I played SS in high school, was 6"2 185, thought I was a badass, loaded up in the box and took on a guy going about 5"10 230, playing fullback. Ended up with a stinger. Felt like my shoulder was a foot lower on the right than the left, hurt like hell.


After about a week, I was back to pretty much 100%. I know it's not the same level of play, but anyway


Stingers hurt like shit. Sounds like with the treatment they are giving it, thats what happened.

Well, they are trained to determine if it is a torn ligament, the first time.

So you're going to just ignore the fact that Bill Belichick has lied to everyone about injuries for years?

Or the fact that Brandon Flowers had a "bruise" and now suddenly he's in a walking boot?

Patriot. ****ing. Way.

It's the basis for everything that went on this offseason.

Romeo? PFW.

Daboll? PFW.

Carr? PFW.

Bowe? PFW.

This BS? PFW.

Thank you for sharing your amazing medical insight, O. Are you a doctor? Could you tell me the process for diagnosing a torn ACL?

Shut the **** up Wendler. Who gives a shit if they don't fully disclose about injuries? It provides a competitive advantage to the team. Pioli doesn't answer to the fans, he answers to Clark. He is under no obligation to disclose injury status to the fans.

And if it is torn they are going to tell the player to play as long as he can deal with the pain.

Actually, jackass, I am a doctor.



Just a teeth doctor.



But I do know from previous experience, that you can do mechanical manipulation of the knee to determine if there is any structural damage, but an MRI is used for these determinations.

Having lived in Ohio for 15 yrs, I've gotten to know several Bengals and Browns fans.

And NONE of them freak out about preseason like SO MANY do here.

Why would they do that and risk further injuries?

There are lots of tests they can do on the sideline to check for ligament damage...it's the medical staffs job to protect the players from themselves.

I have always thought that Berry had a sprained ACL from the SJ hit and fully tore it on the first play back.

If I'm right, the medical staff cost us half a season with Berry and that alone probably cost us the playoffs being we were a game out of winning the division.

I think all the Stanzi hate has officially turned Boss to the dark side.

Well Duh.

They ALREADY know they're gonna suck. No need to freak out if you have nothing to hope for in the first place.

You don't think a professional sports medical team was competent enough to conduct this mechanical manipulation?

Oh I'm sure they did.



I'm just stating that if there was any sign that he had a torn ligament, he shouldn't have been sent back onto the field.

I frankly doubt they would have. But it's all conjecture by anyone at this point.

I dunno why ppl are so worried about him being in a walking boot. It could turn out to be nothing. The 1st game is a long way away. Back in college I had classes with many football players who were in boots on Thursday and played Saturday. They pretty much put you in a boot for tons of minor injuries nowadays to help you heal faster.

Cmon man. Use your brain, not your heart.

There is no "rehab" for a stinger.

This is a real injury and I don't expect Lewis back till after the bye at the earliest.

actually, they are required to accurately report all injuries on the weekly injury reports.

BB has always cheated around that, though.

Has Nightfyre always been this angry? Or just when it comes to Clay? During the CP Mock Draft the dude was laughing and joking around with all of us.

Then again, draft season IS the best ****ing time of the year.

Exactly. The first thing you should do if you aren't healing in a joint is to immobilize it.

This.

I'm gonna wait until the week prior to the Falcons game before I start running and screaming.

I am sick of Clay. He is worse than worthless. His absence from this board would be addition by subtraction.

Actually, there is some rehab. Just heal for a little bit, then the "rehab" is mostly just getting range of motion back.

Nope.

I've been saying since the get go that "if this were serious, he would be in a walking boot"

Well....

I just don't understand why, if it is in fact that bad, you let him to back a try and practice day after day?

Absolutely correct.

:clap:

But what about his illegal gifs and videos?

:facepalm:

Wonder if Flowers is getting round the clock treatment?

You'll have to ask his girlfriend...

This is frustrating.

****!!!!

Shit happens. There is nothing to say he won't be ready come the start of the season. I think the boot is just a measure to help expedite his recover and keep pressure off the heel at all costs.

Has any reporter asked Romeo about this in a presser, within the last few days?

the good news: I don't think they would let Flowers be standing around, in a boot or otherwise if there was a serious, serious injury like a break

FML I love these trainers we have.

He will be fine. The heel isn't healing as fast as they would like so they are taking steps to get him ready for week 1. If he was that bad he wouldn't be standing on it let alone allowed to stand on it at practice.