It hasn't been so far. 32 peas in Goodell's NFL corporate pod backed fully by the US military. Salute those troops, fans & thank your god for those great NFL punts.

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I've already stated i'm not a Cowher fan, I would want a good Coach that was hungry if we're talking retreads.

Are there any more Harbaugh brothers? LMAO

We are the Browns or the Bengals...

We havent won anything in over 20 years....

We are not better than the dumpster NFL franchises, WE ARE A DUMPSTER FRANCHISE....

Exactly!!!

**** John Harbaugh.

Not only is he the maestro of one of the greatest sources of playoff misery for Chiefs fans but he's built EXACTLY THE TYPE OF TEAM THIS BB HATES.

HARBAUGH IS MARTYBALL...

HEY! We are not those teams, we're better than that.

I would consider Gruden or Billick

Just not Cowher or Marty.

And Marty never won a superbowl....

Homgren.

LMAO

They can suck it if molded after Jim.

Clark must have noticed my thread that was so thoroughly mocked here. Suck it haters :).

Proof?

Wish it was yesterday.

It's TV.

I highly doubt "Chucky" would fellate half the QB's he does on the air if they were his QB.

**** Marty.

Why he's even in this conversation is beyond me...

We don't sit back and enjoy the rape, look at all the meltdowns here.

Why would you WANT someone who has won a Super Bowl?

Do you use the lottery as your primary source of income, too?

Only because I want him here unless someone makes a valid argument for someone else of course. :)

:D

Except that they have a QB. And they're using him more and more as he comes into his own.

The defense isn't even that good.

They're not Martyball anymore.

Fine bring in forthmeal! At least KU will benefit.

It's the Chiefs way. Better than horrendous=good.

Meh, the Ravens almost lost to the Chiefs. If Catt Massel doesn't fumble the snap we probably beat them. No thANKS!

It is now fattyball.

Don't confuse a brief moment of inspired luck with consistent goodness.

I think it's doubtful that Pioli gets fired, BUT you really can't fire Crennel without firing Pioli. There will be either no changes or a complete purge.

(I don't count some BS move as making Gibbs DC in title only a change.)

Wow, all of that based on 1 game?

Exactly.

I want a cryogenic chamber.

Wake me when we're respectable again...

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Yep.

LMAO

LMAO

I really don't see Marty being hired as a head coach... but I could see the logic in him being considered as a G.M. candidate. He is passionate about winning, especially within the division. He may not have always made the best decisions, (Gannon), but he was always a good motivator. Just sayin.....

yep.
during the Marty days it was cool to be a Chiefs fan.

Marty was a consultant to Hunt when we hired pioli....


Why trust Martha again?

Maybe you guys will get lucky and pickup Denver reject Brian Xanders

THIS!!!!!

All i know is Pioli has been awfully quiet and Clark has been the only one to say anything.

Not looking good for Pioli.

lets hope buddy lets hope.

There is nothing Pioli can say at this point that would help.

The best thing he can do is keep his mouth shut...

Have you been watching the Ravens at all this season?

I think the best thing Marty can do for the Chiefs is just be Clark's consultant like he pretty much is already.

Sure I think most have entertained the Cowher thought as GM/HC but I just don't know if he has the want to/fire for the job anymore.

I think Billick and Gruden are the best choices but if Andy Reid comes available he should be seriously considered as well.

Whoever is the next HC, they will have extreme personnel powers I would bet.

As for firing Pioli now? Just promote Donovan to run things and Farmer to control personnel for the remainder of the season.

pioli is just a coward hiding from accountability...he loves the $$$ and hates anyone beneath him

At the time that happened, Pioli was the darling of the NFL. Bigger coup (supposedly) than any free agent player on the market. All the ability in the world doesn't always equate to success, but at the time he was a hot commodity. Peter principled. I only made those comments about Marty because there is a night and day difference in my mind about how the two interact with the fans, as a business decision I could definitely see Clark understanding how Marty would bring passion back to Arrowhead. BOTH ON THE FIELD AND IN THE STANDS.

When you need anything accomplished do you hire someone who's done that and done a good job or look for some young guy who's never done it and think " yeah, he looks like he could do this"?

in truth the whole damn team needs to pull their heads outt .. we dont look professional at all ..... clear outt the offices then clear outt the trash on the field .....

There's a long list of coaches that have won Super Bowl's with 2 teams. They're listed below:

I thought you were talking about the 49'ers...

There's a longer list of those that have never won a single one...

I have hired a lot of managers in my time. I generally assess the business first, and look for the right fit to the business, regardless of their background. Certainly, they have to be a qualified candidate, but they don't have to have previous experience in a like job. I'm generally looking for qualities that will make a good fit to the organization.

Marty was one of the people that told Clark to hire Pioli. Just FYI.

So you wouldn't disqualify a person due to the fact they'd previously run a successful business in the same field?

Does the absolute reeruned nature of that question stand out at all to you?...

It depends on what I need accomplished.

If history tells me that, despite his track record, the guy that has done it before won't ever do it again, I won't hire him. Period.

:rolleyes: Yeah right.

Lets demote crennel and hire stanzi as hc

You missed the point. Entirely. LMAO

Hindsight is always a perfect 20/20. Based upon the information available at the time, Pioli was a very solid choice. I don't think you can blame Marty for not knowing that Pioli would turn out to be such a train wreck. EVERYBODY supported the hire at the time.

Bringing Marty back in some role would be the best thing this screwed up team could do. Marty has ALWAYS turned shit teams into solid winning teams. ALWAYS.

Is he too old to be a head coach again? Probably. Expecting him to come back at his advanced age and instantly turn the team into a winner would be like expecting Bill Snyder to be able to do that at K-State. It's impossible.

I figured that out about the same time as I posted that. :thumb:

I was talking about JOHN Harbaugh. I appreciate what Jim as done in SF but I like John as a HC much more...

We've all made mistakes.

When you fail take a long hard look at why and move on.

Don't repeat them.

Bill Cowher has made a living trotting mediocre QB's on the field until he drafted Big Ben.

He is a hard nosed defense/running game guy that took 14 years?? to win a Superbowl in Pit.

No thanks.

:rolleyes:

LMAOLMAO

Are you going to pick up a spent shell casing, load it in your gun, and attempt to fire it again, even though you KNOW it doesn't have a bullet in it?

He would be the best coach the Chifs have had in a long time, if hired. I'd take him in a second.

All the more reason to not have anything to do with Marty. Very little evidence to suggest he's actively learning from his mistakes.

Why?

No, I certainly would not disqualify anybody that has had a track record of proven success in a like position. You'd be foolish to at least not interview that candidate. The real question is: Given their success, do they still have the same drive and passion to replicate their efforts on a start up business (Chiefs Organization).

JOHN has taken a defensive team and tried his best to infuse some offense into the franchise.

Jim has taken an offensive franchise and tried to sell them on Martyball...

This is what I want from our new GM, if you make a mistake recognize it post haste and move on. Carl and Pioli were both horrible in that respect.

I agree.

Like I said, I appreciate what Jim has done in SF. But I'm a big John Harbaugh fan.

Gonna combine two takes in my answer here. First, you're right about Marty not changing. However, Cowher did. I'd only want Cowher as a HC, not GM and NOT in a combined capacity.

That would be a start.

Of course not, it flies in the face of logic.

I rest my case.

I don't like either of them.

NO HC has EVER won the Super Bowl with 2 different teams.

ZERO. ZILCH. NADA.

If you want to talk about coaches who are winners and have been CLOSE (Jeff Fisher comes to mind) then let's talk.

But if you want to talk about an argument that flies in the face of logic, it's the argument that a team should hire Cowher, Billick, or Gruden.

I was all for Fisher, most here hated the idea. He's certainly hungry and has some great experiences.

Marty and the whole NFL world thought Pioli was the hottest thing since sliced bread. To blame Marty for approving is short sighted and wrong.

John appears to have that perfect balance of fire and calm.

It's his personality the team responds to.

He appears to be the "speak softly but carry a big stick" type of guy...

I agree.

There it is, without question. The same problem with developing a QB, no patience.

Brady Quinn played that game yesterday with hand cuffs on, but he sucks!

Draft a first round Rookie, we will be patient then, promise.