I never said I wanted him to leave; I said there are a shit-ton of WRs who are more consistant TODAY, regardless of QB.

WHEN THE BALL HITS YOU IN THE HANDS, A 'STAR' WR SHOULD CATCH THE ****ING BALL, NO???

So, because I haven't spent my days posting in the CP, I'm a 'n00b'??

**** you, you ignorant elitist pricks.

Dwayne Bowe, as a #1 'star' reciever is NOT in the class off Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, etc. Fitzgerald has about as shitty of a QB situation as Bowe, yet doesn't drop easy passes, nor does he point to the back of his jersey after making a routine catch in garbage time of a game that his team is getting blown out in. He's immature and inconsistant at a point in his career when he should be anything BUT.

Sorry to break the illusion of your precious D-Bowe, but um, since we're being honest about this team, let's look at REALITY.

The problem was obviously NOT Todd Haley, because we are WORSE without him. The problems run deep.

To all you dipshits who called me an 'idiot'; you all are sticking up for a #1 WR on a 1-5 team who doesn't catch balls that hit him in the hands.

LMAO

We are sticking up for him because he is a 1,400-yard WR with a good QB under center.

So **** off.

You are on ****ing drugs!!! Jeez, I hate this place sometimes.

I successfully removed the reerun from your post.

I accidentally poz repped this squirrel, someone make it right.

Turn that wheel to the right whilst driving head first into an AIDS forest

I would take them over D-Bowe; way higher ceiling (all are younger) and I would LOVE a graphic of how much of D. Bowes yardage has come in garbage time (like that huge game he had in Denver - long after the outcome had been decided)

D. Bowe doesn't step up and take over games, he disappears at the most inopportune times - seriously, the only thing that makes him 'great' are his numbers. We haven't had a QB that makes him better than he already is...and he surely doesn't make any QBs better. Fitzgerald and Johnson catch 10 balls for over 100 yds and a TD no matter WHO their QB is - BECAUSE THEY GET OPEN, AND THEY CATCH THE ****ING BALL, NO MATTER WHO THROWS IT.

Those who scoff and go, 'oh Dwayne Bowe is a STAR, you don't know what you're talking about.' Yeah, Larry Fitzgerald had Max Hall, Kevin Kolb and John Skelton throwing him the ball. That's arguably worse than cASShoLLLLLe, Orton and Palko. Or cASShoLLLLLe and Quinn.

THAT'S my point. As a '#1', he makes a great #2 possession receiver. No way I consider him a true number #1.

Flame away, ladies.

This HAS to be that douche that was banned not to long ago that stated the same shit. HAS to be. Black Blob?

Yes.

lol

Time to take out the trash again mods

He doesn't make QBs better? ROFL

Imagine Cassel without Bowe.

No - you all are idiots who obviously spend too much time on the internet. My name isn't 'Black Bob'; and I say what I see.

Find out how many interceptions have come off Bowe's hands, what percentage of his career yards have come in garbage time.

I dare ya.

But no, the mods have checked me out to the point that they know my milk in the fridge is expired. You guys are both paranoid and ignorant.

So, you really think Bowe belongs in the same class if WR as a Calvin Johnson or a Larry Fitzgerald?? You think he should get that kind of $$?? You really in your heart of hearts think he should get paid like a top 5 receiver??

Because I don't. I think he's the WR version of Larry Johnson.

If you are not him, then the disease is contagious and needs to be stopped before it turns us all into drooling reeruns.

BlackBob has returned, I presume?

On the waiver wire.

It would be a good thing.

I'm not saying cut him, jeez, you all act like I'm saying he's not worthy of a roster spot, and I'm not - I'm just saying paying him and treating like a #1 when he doesn't produce like one is not a great idea.

maybe my list last night at 4 am was the product of bit of backlash - I'm as pissed off as anyone about the state of this franchise. I want my team back. D. Bowe is selfish, immature and inconsistent. I don't what you say, those are the facts. He's a 'team leader' - no wonder this team is in such dire straights.

No - explain exactly HOW I'm wrong.

Enlighten me. I'm a 'n00b', after all; why is it, exactly, that D Bowe often disappears during the course of a game?? Why does he make such spectacular catches seem routine...but often DROPS the routine catches??

Explain that, please.

I'm all eyes.

When has anyone anywhere ever said that?

The WR version of Larry Johnson?

You are a ****ing reerun, please cease & desist breathing.

We've been through all this before "Black Bob". No reason to rehash the same thing again.

So, you're saying you don't have an argument???

Deflection is tactic of those who have no other recourse.

well I'm saying Bowe isn't a true #1, he doesn't produce like one, which is TRUE, and I'm getting flamed like I said they need to bring Marc Vlasic out of retirement.

He certainly isn't as great as you all are trying to make him seem to be. And I'm getting flamed like I said 'he should be cut.'

He drops easy passes, points at the back of his jersey after making catches during games his team is in the process of getting blown out of, and disappears during key points of games

I mean, if he had REAL qb and a REAL wr opposite him (like, say, STEVE BREASTON) he would be much more effective. But that is all relative to who is lining up across from him.

Hate to keep bringing up Johnson or Fitz, but those guys don't even a SEMBLANCE of the beginnings of a running game, much less the ground attack KC does, and Fitz doesn't even have any help from other WRs or TEs - you KNOW he's gonna get the ball, THEY know he's gonna get the ball, but he still gets open and catches it anyway. And that's what #1 receivers do.
Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

But I'm not.

speaking of reeruns...I had your mom moaning like one last night.

Zing!

No seriously - wait until he gets a big contract.

Either he gets paid big $$ here and fades into obscurity, or signs somewhere else and maybe fulfills his potential.

No, we're saying that because of you, you ****ing twat, that we've already had several threads that go into great detail about how you're a ****ing moron on this subject and are frankly not willing to do it again.

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You are a ****ing idiot.

Yes, you're a ****ing idiot.

Here's some of the other WRs that had a higher drop percentage than Bowe last year (hint, Bowe wasn't even in the bottom TWENTY):

Donald Driver
Eric Decker
Brandon Marshall
Demaryius Thomas
DeSean Jackson
Devin Hester
Mario Manningham
Santana Moss
Roddy White

Here's some of the other WRs that had a similar drop percentage to Bowe from 2008-2010:

Santana Moss
Brandon Marshall
Nate Washington
Marques Colston
Pierre Garcon
DeSean Jackson
Randy Moss
Terrell Owens
Braylon Edwards

Yep, it's Black Bob.

you all are ****ing insane. I'm not this 'Black Bob' character. Sorry I saw the same things he did.

All I see is the ball hitting the WR in the hands, and it flying up in the air and getting picked.

Sorry you guys have went over all this with Black Bart or whatever, but it obviously isn't an isolated viewpoint.

I'll just quit posting here, so you guys can all agree with other people who think like you.

Go back to your circle jerk, homos.

Yep.....It's Spongeblack Bobtard.

Well.....bye.

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These guys just can't quit us.

It wouldn't be hitting them in the hands if they weren't 6'3" with a 40" vertical.

Blaming the WRs for not catching every ball thrown FIVE FEET above their heads is beyond moronic.

Not isolated at all. You and Black Bob and...and...well...and...you and Black Bob. LMAO

We have lots of disagreements here. The idea that this is "group think" is ridiculously silly.

You just have to realize that when you attack one of the few players on this team that's WORTH A SHIT and you attack him with meaningless garbage that couldn't matter less, you're gonna get beat down.

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lost

Bowe will be gone next year anyway. His last two perfermances were bad and he got $600,000 for each of those games. He's not that good and the fact that he's our "star" player should say something to everyone. I hear you Driving Wheel.

Hey look.....Black Bob started a 3rd account.

Another ****ing idiot.

I didn't 'attack' him - he IS our best WR; I'm not sold on him even being amongst the top 10 of his position in the NFL. He would be BETTER with Breaston.

My ultimate point, is that he isn't elite. He has the ability and the potential, but we've been talking about his potential for 5 or 6 years now. Dude should be in his prime.

THAT was my point. Didn't know I would get flamed for speaking the ****ing truth.

Because it IS the truth, D Bowe is NOT an elite receiver. He could be...but he's not. There's a bunch of reasons why he's not...but he's not. Get him a QB worth a shit and I'd love to find out.

yep.

I'm not drinking ANY kool-aid served up by the Chiefs.

He's NOT an elite receiver. And he should NOT be paid like one.

It's a simple concept, really...

Hey no fair, you said you were going to stop posting here.

Do you think he should be paid like Desean Jackson?

It's not just the QB, the HC, and GM guys. There is alot of suck out there.

Do you contribute anything to a single thread, or do you have 14,000 posts of one-liners telling people how stupid they are???

There's gotta be more to do down at the Lake...

Did DeSean sign a new contract or is he still playing for $900k??

Sorry, I lied.

Do you not ****ing pay attention?

5 years, $51 million.

It doesn't matter. I'm just asking if you think Bowe is comparable to Jackson in terms of value.

Edit... Pen gave it away. Jackson makes about 10 Mil a year. Do you think Bowe should be paid that?

neg rep this dude and harass him until he leaves planet.

Jeez, I manage and play in my own band who is making a record and plays between 8-15 shows a month, have a four-year-old daughter, go to school full-time, AND have a part-time job.

Must've missed DeSean's payday (been working on my own)

No, Bowe isn't worth that. But I don't think DeSean is, either - both have some maturity issues, both are inconsistent...so, I guess that is apparently the 'fair market value' for inconsistent, immature WRs.

Well that's the going rate for the production you get from a top 15 WR which Bowe is. Nobody is saying 18-20 mil per year like a Megatron or Fitzgerald, but 10-12 if perfectly reasonable.

You got flamed because you brought out the stupid shit, like him pointing to the back of his jersey. Who the **** cares when the team is THIS bad?

Bowe is the LAST thing you should be worried about.

are you in Jr. High???

I don't ****ing care if you 'neg rep' me, you ****ing little girl. Do you think that will hurt me or somehow make my day worse!!???


Bwhahahahahahaha!!!! You are ****ing LAUGHABLE. Bring it, pussywillow.

You guys are fucking amateurs.

Hay guys I sell bath salts during the day, have sexual relations with my couch during the night and eat hot pockets.

WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I HAVE TIME TO BE INFORMED ABOUT SOMETHING IM ARGUING OVER?!?

It is emblematic of the bigger problem, and this IS a thread about WR play, specifically Steve Breaston. I am so so sorry I dared called out any inadeqecies in anyone other than P-holey and CrenneLLLLL.

I promise, if I play by the rules and bash the right people, will you like me and be my friend and 'pos rep' me???

pffffffttttt...

Somehow we didn't have the money to resign Brandon Carr but we did have the money to pay a BACKUP WR $5 million a year to play about 2 sets a game.

What a joke

I'm not reading this shit fest.

I just have one question:

What would Bowe haters do with Bowe?

Hire a hard-ass prick coach known for taking no bullshit and getting the most out of prima donna receivers...

oh wait.

No, it isn't emblematic of the bigger problem. Primarily because there isn't a "bigger problem".

Dwayne Bowe has trouble catching the ball with his hands, likely a bad habit he's had EVER SINCE he started playing organized football.

And he's never played in the NFL with a REAL QB.

Did you look at those lists I provided? Would you be bitching about Jordy Nelson too?

GTFO.

there isn't a bigger problem?? such as lack of leadership, organization, and direction for the entire franchise???


now THAT statement proves my point entirely.

And I would LOVE it if he would. A REAL QB wouldn't put up with that BS. Dan Marino would've ripped his braids out the back of his helmet.

no. Jordy Nelson doesn't repeatedly flip the ball into the air to get it picked.

I'm not arguing this point anymore; the guys you listed, don't constantly flip the ball up into the air as it bounces off their hands. That is a fact, for some reason is the way he goes for the ball.

And you admitted yourself that he has had trouble catching the ball.

How the hell you gonna have a #1 top-tier NFL WR who, according to YOUR OWN WORDS, 'has trouble catching the ball with his hands'??

This.

How has the garbage not been taken out yet?

I believe Pioli knows he's done. It's just stupidity and sabotage from here on out.

If you're referring to me... i actually haven't done anything wrong, and totally proved my point with my last post in this thread.

In case you haven't been paying attention...

Oh, so now Dwayne Bowe pointing to the back of his jersey is somehow part of the grand organizational dysfunction brought here by Pioli and Crennel? LMAO

Dwayne Bowe pointing to the back of his jersey is a NON-ISSUE. Unless you're one of those pussies like Romeo that think being a "good guy" are more important the WINNING.

LMAO

A half dozen drops a season negates the 90 balls and 1100 yards he gets year in and year out. He led the LEAGUE in TDs in 2010.

Your point is stupid.

Yeah, because Matt Ryan is totally pissed at Roddy White. He shouldn't put up with that!

Because Aaron Rodgers' passes aren't consitently 4-5 feet above Nelson's head.

Because Bowe is the ONLY one that has tipped passes. It's not like McCluster, or Moeaki, or Baldwin, or Maneri have done it. There's a REASON he goes for the ball the way he does. :rolleyes:

"Mugsy aka Bob", you didn't prove anything other than posting a bunch of jibberish about Bowe yet again for the 1000th time.

Driving Wheel True Fan is True Fan.

Sure - someone needs to, whether be in a meeting or on the field right there, grab him and tell him to be aware of where he is and the context of the situation. And to quit acting like a buffoon - that shit is "D-Bowe" of 2008-09. **** THAT guy.

Well, guess what!!?? THEY AREN'T WINNING!!!! DON'T KNOW IF YOU HADN'T HEARD. So, if Dwayne Bowe is gonna be a ****ing dumbass while his team is getting the bejeezus knocked out of it, I'm gonna call him on it.




2010 was a fluke...in more ways than one. He caught like 3 or 4 TDs in that garbage time game in Denver, the "handshake" game. Unlike you, I remember the context in which those numbers were posted. SKEWED.


Dwayne Bowe has NEVER caught 90 balls in a season one time, much less "year in and year out". You are literally pulling shit out your ass.

Again, they are winning games. It's all about context.

I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN THE BALL HITS HIM SQUARE IN THE ****ING HANDS. HE DROPS IT OR FLIPS IT INTO THE AIR!!!

He MAKES the circus catches; ****s up the easy ones - you know you've seen it.

I'm not denying he has had shitty qb play...but he also has problems with taking in balls between the numbers - YOU SAID SO YOURSELF :
Dwayne Bowe has trouble catching the ball with his hands, likely a bad habit he's had EVER SINCE he started playing organized football.
"Dwayne Bowe has trouble catching the ball with his hands, likely a bad habit he's had EVER SINCE he started playing organized football."

BAM - YOUR words.

END OF DISCUSSION.

see above reply

Just a word of advice, go ahead and type the word ****, and the filter will take care of it. It is a violation of the rules the way you typed it, and some of the people around here might give you a vacation.

carry on

I posted fact.

Tyler Thigpen, Damon Huard, Brodie Croyle, Matt Cassel, Brady Quinn.

Definitely Black Bob.

Definitely.

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Dude, he said Bowe catches 90 balls "year in and year out" - I was proving him wrong with the fact that Bowe has NEVER ONCE caught 90 passes, much less done it "year in and year out" - regardless of WHY that happened, he was just pulling shit out his ass.

I called him on it, and it shows.

Are you all just gang- attacking me out of spite, or have you been actually reading what has been posted??

Yep. Didn't even try to hide his identity. We sniffed him out in a matter of minutes.

you guys are definitely idiots.

Definitely.

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don't quit your day job to be a ****ing detective, Columbo.

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It's worse than I thought then there are 2 people like that....Wow, the virus is spreading.

Bobtard strikes again!

no, you guys are a couple of brainless twits engaging in mass hubris together :

"Dwayne Bowe catches 90 balls a year for 1100 yds year in and year out"

No he doesn't.

"but he has always had trouble catching the ball"

that's my point

"but he's never had a good qb"

even the sh*tty ones hit him in the hands occasionally; ironically, those are the passes he usually drops.

"shut up Black Bart - let's neg rep him"

I'm not Black Bart.

"Shut up, Black Bart"

Dumbasses.