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xztop12 10-17-2012 03:07 PM

JESUS FINALLY CHRIST.

Wow.

xztop12 10-17-2012 03:07 PM

Anyone that thinks we need to keep Bowe is an idiot, plain and simple. Also I'll fight you

the Talking Can 10-17-2012 03:08 PM

sorry, but can't spin a loser GM who deserves to be fired trading your best offensive player over 4 years as a positive

In58men 10-17-2012 03:08 PM

This organization is ****ing stupid.

We better get a ****ing first round pick. I don't want Matt Moore, who the **** is he?

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 9025273)
I don't think that is going to happen. We are looking at a 2nd.

If it's true, it's probably the second rounder that Miami received from the Indy trade for Vontae Davis.

If Clark Hunt allows this to happen, then he should be fired by his siblings.

Brock 10-17-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop12 (Post 9025283)
Anyone that thinks we need to keep Bowe is an idiot, plain and simple. Also I'll fight you

Kill yourself, idiot.

siberian khatru 10-17-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9025280)
Understood, Mr. J Diddy ...

But back up a step or two. Why is it that Bowe wants out so badly? That, my friend, is the question.

When you're bound to lose, you want to cut your losses. That's understandable. So, you get what you can for Bowe. Great. Makes sense.

We should be focused, however, on building a team of good, great, and better players ... not how we can maximize the return on failure.

FAX

Yep. Why are we in a situation where our best move is to trade one of our best players?

Fritz88 10-17-2012 03:08 PM

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Mr_Tomahawk 10-17-2012 03:09 PM

This is pioli trying to show he cares...trying to save his job.

Fml

acasas4 10-17-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9025275)
Pioli is the reason Bowe wont resign.

**** that mother****er. God damnit.

I bet if we bring in a new GM, coaching staff & promise Bowe we'll be drafting a QB in the 1st round, he might stay...

I agree.

Valiant 10-17-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 9025263)
meh
We already need a GM, HC, QB, and WR. We need more speed on the outside; Bowe has been franchised twice. Makes sense. Considering his production, we should be able to get a good pick or two for him. Now is the right time to pull the trigger.

Twice? When was the 2nd one?

BoneKrusher 10-17-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9025285)
This organization is ****ing stupid.

We better get a ****ing first round pick. I don't want Matt Moore, who the **** is he?

Matt Moore and a high Draft Pick.

DJ's left nut 10-17-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9025267)
it's a terrible ****ing idea

and the reason Bowe won't resign is Cassel and Pioli...they should be sent packing

but have fun with Cassel and McCluster

Well no shit it's a terrible idea. But Clark's not going to shitcan Pioli because he's spineless.

So given the fact that we're stuck with this asshole, said asshole has no choice but to trade Dwyane Bowe - the guy's not coming back of his own volition. I already told the story about him telling Donald Washington that he's not going to get himself killed for Matt Cassel and everyone knows how much venom has built up between him and the front office.

Of course the problem is Cassel and Pioli. But WTF do you want me to say? Fire Pioli? Kiss my ass - I was on that bandwagon before you or damn near anyone else here. Get rid of Cassel? I was blistering that ****er before we traded for him.

I have no interest in hearing what I already know, but given the shit sandwich we're stuck with here, WTF else is there?

Bring on the blackout, Chiefs fans - the franchise is ****ing dead.

The Franchise 10-17-2012 03:10 PM

ROFL......a caller on 610 is now ripping them again.

ChiefsCountry 10-17-2012 03:10 PM

If we have to trade him, which we probably will since Pioli is a ****, better get Miami's two second round picks for him. That would give us quite a bit ammo to go up in the draft. Hell we can trade back into the first really easy with 3 second round picks.

DaKCMan AP 10-17-2012 03:10 PM

Jason Cole is a NFL reporter & journalism professor at Florida.. so he must be legit.

Bwana 10-17-2012 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9025287)
If it's true, it's probably the second rounder that Miami received from the Indy trade for Vontae Davis.

If Clark Hunt allows this to happen, then he should be fired by his siblings.

Yes and yes.

Priest31kc 10-17-2012 03:10 PM

Josh Vernier ‏@JoshVernier
Jason Cole tells us that he is not reporting that DBowe is being shopped. Don't get too excited/down about the rumor. #Chiefs

L.A. Chieffan 10-17-2012 03:11 PM

Bowe has become the scapegoat

ToxSocks 10-17-2012 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9025303)
If we have to trade him, which we probably will since Pioli is a ****, better get Miami's two second round picks for him. That would give us quite a bit ammo to go up in the draft. Hell we can trade back into the first really easy with 3 second round picks.

**** that.

We need a 1st. Anything less and we're getting ****ed.

Bewbies 10-17-2012 03:11 PM

**** Pioli.

I love the idea of drafting a QB high and he has Midget and Baldwin to throw at.

FAX 10-17-2012 03:11 PM

Man. It takes a lot of pain to be a Chiefs fan in this day and age. A lot of pain.

FAX

kcxiv 10-17-2012 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9025304)
Jason Cole is a NFL reporter & journalism professor at Florida.. so he must be legit.

They told Cole that ESPN rumors were the CHiefs and the Fins were talking about a big trade. He said the only reasonable trade would be Bowe. At least for the FIns needs. So he said if its anyone and its true, its probably Bowe, but he said he hasnt heard anything.

DJ's left nut 10-17-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9025308)
Josh Vernier ‏@JoshVernier
Jason Cole tells us that he is not reporting that DBowe is being shopped. Don't get too excited/down about the rumor. #Chiefs

So just exactly what the **** is he reporting?

In58men 10-17-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 9025300)
Matt Moore and a high Draft Pick.

Not a chance in hell.

L.A. Chieffan 10-17-2012 03:13 PM

Trade worthless Jon Ballsonchin. Probably couldnt get a 6th rounder for that dude.

BoneKrusher 10-17-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9025313)
Man. It takes a lot of pain to be a Chiefs fan in this day and age. A lot of pain.

FAX

we could become oxy-morons..ROFL

DJ's left nut 10-17-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9025314)
They told Cole that ESPN rumors were the CHiefs and the Fins were talking about a big trade. He said the only reasonable trade would be Bowe. At least for the FIns needs. So he said if its anyone and its true, its probably Bowe, but he said he hasnt heard anything.

Oh.

So this is a whole lot of nothing, then. Just more irresponsible and reeruned speculation from a reporter.

Well folks - nothing to see here.

Priest31kc 10-17-2012 03:13 PM

Jason Cole ‏@JasonColeYahoo
Just to clarify something: I'm NOT reporting the KC and Miami are talki g trade over Bowe. Not yet, at least. Misunderstanding by someone

Fansy the Famous Bard 10-17-2012 03:14 PM

And with the first overall pick in the draft the Kansas City Chiefs select... Justin Hunter, Wide Receiver, Tennessee.

ToxSocks 10-17-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9025313)
Man. It takes a lot of pain to be a Chiefs fan in this day and age. A lot of pain.

FAX

The trick is.....Not minding that it hurts.

DaKCMan AP 10-17-2012 03:14 PM

I don't understand the Baldwin hate around here.

ToxSocks 10-17-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9025324)
Jason Cole ‏@JasonColeYahoo
Just to clarify something: I'm NOT reporting the KC and Miami are talki g trade over Bowe. Not yet, at least. Misunderstanding by someone

Hence the reason i said i didn't want to over react.

BoneKrusher 10-17-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9025314)
They told Cole that ESPN rumors were the CHiefs and the Fins were talking about a big trade. He said the only reasonable trade would be Bowe. At least for the FIns needs. So he said if its anyone and its true, its probably Bowe, but he said he hasnt heard anything.

i still say Pioli is trying to trade for Matt Moore.

FAX 10-17-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9025328)
I don't understand the Baldwin hate around here.

I don't either.

FAX

ShowtimeSBMVP 10-17-2012 03:15 PM

Pro Football Weekly ‏@ProFootballWkly

RT @JasonColeYahoo: Just to clarify something: I'm NOT reporting the KC and Miami are talking trade over Bowe. Not yet, at least.

mcaj22 10-17-2012 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9025328)
I don't understand the Baldwin hate around here.

awful pick/he sucks

ToxSocks 10-17-2012 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9025328)
I don't understand the Baldwin hate around here.

Might have something to do with his Bartee like ability to adjust to the ball in the air.

SDKCCHIEFS 10-17-2012 03:15 PM

bowe for tannehill

Hammock Parties 10-17-2012 03:16 PM

@JasonColeYahoo

Just to clarify something: I'm NOT reporting the KC and Miami are talki g trade over Bowe. Not yet, at least. Misunderstanding by someone

WV 10-17-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 9025331)
i still say Pioli is trying to trade for Matt Moore.

Egads....what a horrible band-aide.

BoneKrusher 10-17-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9025335)
awful pick/he sucks

i need to see him play with a real QB before i decide.

Tribal Warfare 10-17-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 9025331)
i still say Pioli is trying to trade for Matt Moore.

Nope he still paying his lovechild Matt Cassel and he won't admit that he made a mistake.

In58men 10-17-2012 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDKCCHIEFS (Post 9025338)
bowe for tannehill

In a heart beat.

Bwana 10-17-2012 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9025313)
Man. It takes a lot of pain to be a Chiefs fan in this day and age. A lot of pain.

FAX


Indeed Mr. FAX. Being a Chiefs fan these days is like sitting in the Lazy boy, drinking straight habanera hot sauce and continually punching oneself the balls.

TEX 10-17-2012 03:17 PM

Great - just another draft pick Pioli will blow. This guy becomes more Matt Millenesque every day...:shake:

DaKCMan AP 10-17-2012 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9025335)
awful pick/he sucks

He was a badass in college and has had very limited opportunity here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9025336)
Might have something to do with his Bartee like ability to adjust to the ball in the air.

Most of the Cassel wobbles that come his way require ridiculous circus catches.

L.A. Chieffan 10-17-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9025328)
I don't understand the Baldwin hate around here.

Hes been tearing it up so far

Buehler445 10-17-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9025216)
If Bowe gets traded and Pioli/Cassel are here next year......I'm done with this team.

This. I'm barely watching games as it is.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9025260)
Not really sure what to say.

I don't want to be over reactionary.....but damn.....

Not really how i could support this team anymore if that happens. The only way i could be slightly ok with it is if we get a first for him, but there is no way that happens.

**** a first, unless it is first overall and we can get Geno.

If we use a first round pick on a WR, we get Baldwin, who has been targeted about 10 times in 6 goddamned mother ****ing abortions we call games.

BlackHelicopters 10-17-2012 03:18 PM

Nothing surprises me. This was close.

ToxSocks 10-17-2012 03:18 PM

You know....instead of Bowe.....it Could be Breaston.

TEX 10-17-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 9025331)
i still say Pioli is trying to trade for Matt Moore.

Shit - just trade Cassel for him and keep Bowe...:)

The Franchise 10-17-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9025351)
You know....instead of Bowe.....it Could be Breaston.

Possibly.

DJ's left nut 10-17-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9025351)
You know....instead of Bowe.....it Could be Breaston.

Breaston for Moore is exactly the kind of 'save his ass' move that I could see Pioli making.

Bring in Moore and try to milk 3 or 4 wins out of this shit-heap, announce the extension you've already signed coming off your 'resurgent' second half and all is well. QBOTF in hand, you're ready to draft another D-Lineman.

ToxSocks 10-17-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9025349)
This. I'm barely watching games as it is.




**** a first, unless it is first overall and we can get Geno.

If we use a first round pick on a WR, we get Baldwin, who has been targeted about 10 times in 6 goddamned mother ****ing abortions we call games.

Huh?

The fins are going to be picking somewhere between 10-18, so their 1st is pretty damn valuable, especially if you're trying to move up to take Geno.

royr17 10-17-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9025303)
If we have to trade him, which we probably will since Pioli is a ****, better get Miami's two second round picks for him. That would give us quite a bit ammo to go up in the draft. Hell we can trade back into the first really easy with 3 second round picks.

Im against trading Bowe period, he is the best WR we have had in a long time, but Pioli is doin it the patriot way, he feels that Bowe can probably be easily replaced and trade him and get what he can out of it.

If Bowe gets traded, Baldwin is your # 1 WR and Breaston will step in at # 2. McCluster will stay in the slot.

notorious 10-17-2012 03:20 PM

If it's Bowe and Cassel for a first and second, I would be alright with that.


Ya, right.:facepalm:

In58men 10-17-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9025355)
Breaston for Moore is exactly the kind of 'save his ass' move that I could see Pioli making.

Bring in Moore and try to milk 3 or 4 wins out of this shit-heap, announce the extension you've already signed coming off your 'resurgent' second half and all is well. QBOTF in hand, you're ready to draft another D-Lineman.

ROFL

rico 10-17-2012 03:20 PM

If we did end up with Moore, first off, I hope we don't sign him to some stupid extensive contract for it would be nice to commit ourselves to that 1st round QB that everyone has been craving for years. Secondly, which QB do we cut? Quinn's contract is only for a year...Stanzi we have for another 2 and a half years and is cheap.... Would it be....Cassel?

ILChief 10-17-2012 03:20 PM

Why trade him when we can let him walk and get nothing and replace him with a Stanford Routt level player?

BoneKrusher 10-17-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WV (Post 9025340)
Egads....what a horrible band-aide.

that band-aide could save his job, at least thats what he's probably hoping.

DaKCMan AP 10-17-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9025348)
Hes been tearing it up so far

No WR is tearing it up on a team that attempts the 2nd fewest passes per game in the NFL and barely completes 60% of them.

Bwana 10-17-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9025336)
Might have something to do with his Bartee like ability to adjust to the ball in the air.

LMAO

Ouch

ILChief 10-17-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9025361)
If it's Bowe and Cassel for a first and second, I would be alright with that.


Ya, right.:facepalm:

I'd give them a second to take Cassel

Bwana 10-17-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDKCCHIEFS (Post 9025338)
bowe for tannehill

Yeah, I'm sure that's it.

L.A. Chieffan 10-17-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9025367)
No WR is tearing it up on a team that attempts the 2nd fewest passes per game in the NFL and barely completes 60% of them.

He has the tainted smell of Pioli fail all over him.

MIAdragon 10-17-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9025328)
I don't understand the Baldwin hate around here.

He needs to learn to catch the ball with TWO damn hands.

BossChief 10-17-2012 03:23 PM

Whatever it takes to get this team a franchise quarterback is fine with me.

Losing Bowe GUARANTEES that this team will have its pick of quarterbacks in this upcoming draft and it will also probably give us another first or 2 second rounders to use as ammo if we want to move back into the first round for another premium player or two.

ShowtimeSBMVP 10-17-2012 03:23 PM

Bowe doesn't wanna play for Pioli. Get a new GM Tag Bowe again not that hard.

Agent V 10-17-2012 03:23 PM

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsyqreJ4pD1qck8j0.gif

BadNewz 10-17-2012 03:23 PM

Colquitt will be next. Pioli gutting the team before he leaves

RealSNR 10-17-2012 03:23 PM

Chocolate penis don't go!

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9025355)
Breaston for Moore is exactly the kind of 'save his ass' move that I could see Pioli making.

Bring in Moore and try to milk 3 or 4 wins out of this shit-heap, announce the extension you've already signed coming off your 'resurgent' second half and all is well. QBOTF in hand, you're ready to draft another D-Lineman.

If they trade Matt Moore, Miami won't have a legit backup QB on the roster. They're 3-3 and in the middle of a division title hunt.

I'll be surprised if they dump Moore but then again, Jeff Ireland is trying to save his ass as well.

L.A. Chieffan 10-17-2012 03:24 PM

Jamaal Charles might want to keep his phone on

Pitt Gorilla 10-17-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9025185)
I'll be honest. It needs to happen. No way we resign him next year.

I agree. I'll love it if we get a first out of the deal.

1) He's gone after this season. Period.
2) We need to lose this year. Less talent=more likely to lose.
3) He was consistently inconsistent. Some of that was QB play, a lot of it was on him.

I'm not sure I'd do it for a 2nd, but I'd jump at a first.

Bane 10-17-2012 03:24 PM

I'll show you a fire Pioli Banner you sumbitches /Pisoli

BossChief 10-17-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9025358)
Huh?

The fins are going to be picking somewhere between 10-18, so their 1st is pretty damn valuable, especially if you're trying to move up to take Geno.

Dude, if we lose Bowe to trade, we wont have to move up for ANYBODY.

We would be a LOCK for the top pick.

Valiant 10-17-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9025349)
This. I'm barely watching games as it is.




**** a first, unless it is first overall and we can get Geno.

If we use a first round pick on a WR, we get Baldwin, who has been targeted about 10 times in 6 goddamned mother ****ing abortions we call games.

He has 13catches out of 23 targets.

Problem is cassel does not progress through reads to get to him.

DJ's left nut 10-17-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9025381)
If they trade Matt Moore, Miami won't have a legit backup QB on the roster. They're 3-3 and in the middle of a division title hunt.

I'll be surprised if they dump Moore but then again, Jeff Ireland is trying to save his ass as well.

I know how we can get a backup QB included in that deal for 'em...

DaKCMan AP 10-17-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9025374)
He has the tainted smell of Pioli fail all over him.

He was a ****ing stud at Pitt whose strength was catching the ball down the field. I'll reserve judgment until we have a real QB on the field and until we actually call routes longer than 5 yards.


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