It also appears that the ownership in Carolina is doing everything they can for Cam, much like Tennessee did for Vince Young. An experienced coach may not want that albatross around their neck.

I see I'm not alone here.

I would counter that both Cleveland and Carolina will be choosing Top Five in the draft and therefore any new GM/Coach combo could move on from the incumbents rather easily.

Cleveland has a built-in audience, a solid offensive line, and two burgeoning stars in Richardson and Gordon. They're not that far away from competing, especially since the Bengals and Ravens can never seem to get over the hump.

As for Carolina, they have running backs to trade as well as Newton. It could potentially be a clean slate for the newcomers with a solid defense in place and a division undergoing transformation.

As for San Diego, what could be better than living in San Diego, having both offensive and defensive talent with the possibility of moving to one of the hottest spots in the country in Los Angeles?

Also Cleveland is a ****ing shithole

I wonder if Cleveland being in the same division as the Steelers would be a plus or a minus for Cowher? He seems proud of his Steelers legacy, so I don't know if he would want to be "the enemy" to the Steeler faithful.

That's a good point.

Why is Cleveland an undesirable spot? Their defense is ascending, they have a terrific running game and great offensive line. They're just a maturing QB and 1-2 WRs away from being serious contenders.

Plus, they're going to be run by Joe Banner, who knows a thing or two about football. Then again, I bet that means Andy Reid is a favorite to go there.

Ravens and Steelers are pretty big obstacles for Cleveland. While I like Richardson, I'm not banking on a RB.

Carolina would be fine, but many thought he might have already gone there if there was true interest on his part. Again, home isn't always the best landing spot for an NFL coach.

SD is OK, but I'm not impressed with their roster. Injured RB, sub-par WRs, regressing QB, OK defensive talent. Pretty "meh" in my view, but living in SD could be worse, for sure.

KC, has much potential on the roster, and the fan base/atmosphere is second-to-none when things are up and running. I honestly believe that a coach might look at KC's roster and think it's a QB away. That might be a bit optimistic in reality, but it's really not that far from true, either.

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Like Marty coaching for the Chargers? Or Parcells coaching the Jets, Patriots and running the Dolphins?

Seriously, I don't think it matters. Cowher, IF he chooses to coach again, will go wherever he feels he has the best and quickest chance to win and win big.

I wish people would stop pumping up Cowher here.

He's going to want to coach for a team that gives him say in personnel. And I haven't seen many examples of that ending well for anyone. It's the main reason you stay away from retreads.

If you're a guy like Cowher that basically has his pick of the litter, if he decides to return to NFL coaching, quality of life has to be a consideration.

With that in mind, Carolina and San Diego make the most sense for him.

What are you basing this on?

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He's not wrong, Brady can manage to lose the game as well as anyone

Another thing to consider in regards to Cleveland is the Rooney's may tell Cowher that Jimmy Haslam is the bomb. He's 81 years old and wants to win quickly.

There are all kinds of factors at play, although the biggest is that Cowher hasn't indicated that he's even interested in returning to the NFL.

Have you ever been there?

Yes.

Well, Marty didn't really accomplish anything with the Chiefs and Parcells to the Cowboys would be a better example since he won the SB with the Giants.

However, if you watch the CBS pregame show, you can tell that Cowher still identifies strongly with the Steelers, which is why I mentioned it. Other coaches may not care about stuff like that.

It comes up every time he is in a head coach search. And it comes from plenty of good sources.

Except for Cowher himself, of course, when he won the power struggle in Pitts.

Other than Marv Levy, The Hoodie, and Parcells...

Another wild card could be the Cowboys. No way Garrett keeps his job if they miss the playoffs.

Okay, fair point. But I still hate the idea. Remember that Cowher refused to coach anywhere unless he brought the Steelers' GM with him. That Steelers' GM has been pretty questionable the last few years.

I don't want a head coach who is going to demand who his boss is.

When?

I've been to so many cities and really they are basically the same.

Well, except for Detroit. That place is scary.

3 or 4 years ago when I helped my friend move from Akron.

Wow, interesting. I find most cities to be quite a bit different, especially if you're comparing coastal cities to midwestern cities.

Hey, you should have stopped by and said HI.

I was in the Akron area then. :)

IMO, all these cities are about the same. They all have their bad areas and good areas.

I don't think a head coach cares about the city he works in. You're old enough to not care if you're surrounded by bright lights and you're working 24 hours a day anyway. And I think his kids are old enough that they won't care either.

For a player, yes. For a coach, I doubt it matters much at all.

Not familiar with coastal cities.

I'm just comparing appearance.

It wasn't much different than here but the weather off the lake ****ing sucks

Ah

Yeah, I do not miss lake-effect snow.

In that regard, yes, Cleveland is a shithole.

I don't think Cleveland is bad, its just forgettable. No redeeming qualities. That goes for all Ohio cities, now that I think about it.

Cleveland, Akron, Dayton, Toledo, Cincinnati... yes. Columbus is different. Whether you like the Buckeyes or not, football weekend at Ohio State is a very interesting experience.