I never said that I love Dexter...but I dont think he is anywhere near as bad as you try to portray him, either.

If we draft Geno Smith (a quarterback that is not only accurate, but can also stretch the field) players like Dexter become far more valuable because of what they can do in space with their acceleration.

I don't know if you realize this but if you constantly leave your defense in bad situations via turnovers and leave them on the field the whole game because of your offensive ineptitude and inability to sustain drives (i.e. not going 3&out every drive ala Cassel) they will typically struggle.

By not leaving our defense on the field the whole ****ing game, they played better. Orton isn't the answer but he showed what even an average QB could do for this team.

Thats not too far off, actually.

I don't think he is "the shit" but I do think he can be a very effective player in the right circumstances.

You will owe me an authentic Jersey because of him after this year and Im sure we will make another wager next year when Geno is gonna help the kid exploit matchups in space.

He'll draft a LT(if Albert leaves) or a 3-4 DE with zero pass rushing ability.

God help us if he isn't fired by the end of the season.

I knew someone would post truth and that I didnt need to.

there is a clear reason that the team played with more energy with Orton at QB and anyone that has played the game at a high, organized level knows that when you have a QB, you give max effort because you know that you dont want to be the reason the team lost.

With a guy like Cassel, you don't have much hope of actually winning games and that takes away your field energy.

Fair enough although I look forward to the day when the legend of Orton the mediocre QB dies in KC.

Not on your life.

He has 276 receiving yards in 9 games.

He's gonna need to average 46 yards a game the rest of the year for me to lose.

He drops more passes than just about anyone, and turns the ball over a shit ton. And doesn't make big plays.

How much worse can he get?

I think most reasonable people know he is average and could have been a solid stop-gap at best.

I dont think anyone here wanted to sign Orton as the end all be all.

But, he would have been an optimum backup and a damn good stop gap.

With Orton, the receiving corps could be properly evaluated as could the other members of the team and the teams talent wouldnt be losing confidence like this year has done.

Cassel has a way of sucking not only on the field, but sucking the energy of his teammates.

Its beyond laughable that the guy was championed as some kind of great leader that had great intangibles.

the guy tries to absorb undue praise and deflects criticism...when a real leader deflects praise to his teammates and accepts the blame for its failures.

I think if you were to ask Clark Hunt about Scott Pioli right now, he would give you that exact answer.

He had a ****ed up elbow for 3 of those games and evidently, they want to give him more looks.

Its cool, bro.

You wont give a **** that you have to buy two Geno Smith jerseys.

He took the brace off Monday and was terrible dude.

Eventually you are going to see the light on this kid.

5-7, 4.6, no hands, acts like an MVP after 13-yard gains.

Shitty.

Clark Hunt isnt much more than a checkbook and a figurehead. He lets Pioli run the team as if he is the actual owner...Pioli is like the Jerry Jones of Kansas City..think about that for a little bit before you respond.

If he had a clue about what he should do, he wouldn't need to hire advisers.

I bet he doesnt need to hire advisers for his soccer teams.

Why do you care about his 40 time?

the more relevant time (in relevance to his position) was his shuttle time that was truly ELITE. that shows his short area burst and acceleration.

4.06 is ****ing ridiculous.

Because it's the reason he doesn't make big plays.

Linebackers can chase him down in the open field.

He's not explosive.

I can count the number of guys he's made miss this year on one hand.

I agree. Didn't Marty advise Clark to hire Pioli? Thought I heard that.

If so, I think Clark really thought he was getting a goldmine.

I really think Clark cares about this franchise. He just doesn't know what he's doing.

Im gonna wear that Geno Jersey 2 or 3 times a week.

Yes he does.

Pioli is toast.

ROFL

I bet he doesn't top 500 yards.

I'm gonna laugh if he gets to like 597.

I think that if Clark could just write a check for the Chiefs to win a superbowl, he wouldn't hesitate to write that check, regardless of the amount.

The trouble is, its not anywhere near that easy.

It takes work and he shouldnt need to hire an adviser if he was doing some of that work himself.

Then why not fire him now? He's shelling out a ton of money for Pioli to go on his scouting trips.

All Clark is doing is losing money.

Keep hoping that will happen.

Is our bet "at least 600" or "more than 600"?

Scouting trips in providence?

Don't worry about it. He won't get close to 600, barring some kind of outlandish Miles Austin career day.

Dude he has to pay him several million dollars when he fires him anyway.

A few scouting trips are a drop in the bucket.

Take a look at our schedule, dude. Evaluate the matchups.

I just hope they draft Geno Smith.

If they take Barkley, Wilson, Jones or somebody else, I might just want a Delaney jersey...that would be a tough one.

ROFL

The opponent is irrelevant.

We are going to be running 40 times a game anyway.

Dex is gonna have 20 yards a game from here on out.

You have much to learn and I have much to teach...by years end I will AGAIN be saying better luck next year.

Only thing saving you this year is the Mayans.

Okay guys, just curious. Do you think Clark will fire this clown in like 3 weeks when we are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs or on December 31st aka NFL axe day?

He'll take a lineman if he's still here. They'll need a 5-tech to replace Dorsey.

Dec. 31st is my birthday.

This is destiny.

Wait wait wait, we are getting ahead of ourselves. Let's not rule out Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU

According to cdcox's software we're already mathematically eliminated from the playoffs

I thought he said we can win out and still make the playoffs..shit I thought he said there were scenarios that show we could still make a wildcard spot with 1 more loss and end the year at 7-9.

Well, the chart I saw had our odds at 0.00% to make the playoffs, which probably just means that our chances lie beyond the hundredths of a percentile.

The chart says 0 percent because it knows we're not winning 8 games.

it's gonna be a crime if Pioli is still here come April.


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Pioli would draft Jarvis Jones or Te'o if we pick #1.

That was my thought...

ROFL

I went with Barkley. I figure if Pioli is here, he'll go safe.

We have to go 7-0 to finish 8-8. It is pretty reasonable to assume we are almost mathematically eliminated as of right now. About the only chance we have of making the playoffs will be to win the division. I just can't see a team led by Manning going 1-6 to finish the season.

Geno. F-it.
dude has a butt load of upside.


regardless, I'm confident we'll **** it up.

He would take whoever sucks the worst.

Can we draft Glenn Dorsey again?

well i may look really stupid in 5 years for saying this but there is no way i want Geno Smith as the chiefs qb. All i see in him is a child that either throws 4 td's or does absolutly nothing. I really think he will bust becuase he has not done anything against good teams. Give me Barkley. All said i have no opinion on wilson. Just dont like what i see from Geno

Barkley or Landry Jones

Pioli has shown that he prefers solid over potential


landry Jones seems a ton like Cassel ... shits the bed against pressure.


Geno Smith is going to take a team confident in their ability to DEVELOP his potential.

he didn't get either hen he traded for Cassel

This 1st paragraph seems realistic unfortunately. Except cassel doesn't get the whole year, only until the trade deadline or when the kc fightin chiefs are completely eliminated (whichever comes last). Eventually Cassel moves for a 5th and swap of 6ths.

As funny as that is, this team is dumb enough to pull it off!

Pioli will draft Tyler Bra (d) y

I've said it before but if the Chiefs have the #1 pick and Pioli is still here, he will trade down and take either a LT if Albert walks or a corner if not. Then he will draft a 2nd/3rd tier QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Same shit, different year

I think franchising Albert is the lock of the decade.... If he doesn't get a contract before March...

Poll fail. No 2 gap DE listed.

Look, I wouldn't be depressed if we picked up geno smith, but people need to stop acting like he's a matt ryan/RGIII hybrid. He's only 6'3, is estimated to run a 4.7 forty and has decent arm strength, not the vaunted john elway power. He's also been mediocre against good defenses.

a CB to replace Carr
no other option
unless LSU has another DL available

I heard Kiper say he really liked a LSU lineman or a ILB for us. Thats my pick of what dumb **** would do.

I don't know if Bray has the mental side of it. He seems a bit dumb, and he doesn't strike me as the type that will put in the hours it takes in the film room to dissect NFL defenses. But his arm is special.

(Tennessee fan)

Only a legitimate 6'3"?

Can only run a 40 in 4.7?

And can hit receivers from all over the field?

(And no one has Elway arm power. Not Stafford, not Vick, not Favre, not nobody. But Geno can and has hit guys in stride at 50 yards. There hasn't been a single Chiefs QB ever who can do that. Ever.)

Yeah, I'll take Geno all day long.

Geno is clearly the most physically talented QB coming out.

You're blind if you don't see that.

He also happens to have 3 years of starting experience and 25 wins. Even Parcells would like him.

Geno fills all the Parcells criteria for a first round qb, doesn't he?

Close. He's not a 4-year starter. He didn't start every game his first year.

That's not one of his 4 requirements. Geno Smith meets all 4


He must be a senior, because you need time and maturity to develop into a good professional quarterback.
He must be a graduate, because you want someone who takes his responsibilities seriously.
He must be a three-year starter, because you need to make sure his success wasn’t ephemeral and that he has lived as “the guy” for some period of time.
He must have at least 23 wins, because the big passing numbers must come in the context of winning games.

It's 3-year starter then. Killer.

Killer, indeed.

Ben Roethlisberger went to Miami, OH. Whenever his team faced against a BCS team, he got clobbered. He looked ****ing terrible.

Now West Virginia isn't Miami, OH, but Geno's team is clearly outmatched by the competition in the Big XII. He has zero offensive line help, no defense, and his coach is a reerun. And he's going up against some REALLY good defenses with that.

He hasn't been perfect, but I'll gladly take "pretty damn good" instead when perfection isn't available.

Man, behind Kansas City's offensive line with all kinds of protection? Chucking 50 yarders to Dwayne Bowe after Jamaal Charles just skull-****ed the defense and made them double down on stopping the run? The Chiefs haven't had a QB who can make defenses pay for their aggressiveness since... well, ever. Trent Green was excellent, but he didn't have Geno Smith's arm or his WRs.

Very quickly, teams are going to see exactly what Chiefs fans were talking about when they said, "If we only had a real QB." Geno Smith is that "real QB." You'll get a pretty good idea of what that means as early as his rookie year.

Maybe? But, he's not that talented imo and that's the problem.

I think pioli would get mcCarron to declare and draft him.

I do too. In addition to a first round QB.

I agree with your stance. I'd love to have Geno Smith and I'll be happy if he becomes ''just'' a top 15 QB in this league.

Same here.