You know, we all joke around and stuff. But do people realize that the chances that we DON'T draft a QB with our first round pick are kind of up there? Depending on who is our GM, yes, but even with a new GM I could see us passing on selecting a QB with our pick, whether it's #1 overall or not.

If we have the #1 pick, we're gonna take a QB. To NOT take a QB would be like the 3rd time in the last 15 years that a team took something other than a QB with the #1 pick.

Whoever the GM is, he better try like hell to trade down if they do not want to take a QB #1.

Taking a DT or ILB #1 would piss me off to no end.

That's up to the Chiefs and their personnel people. What if they agree with the scouts, etc.? What if they think a QB this year being picked #1 is crazy?

Even at #2 or #3 and they don't pick one, what happens?

another wasted decade

it really is that simple

I'm not saying I think that drafting a QB high in the draft is stupid, I agree with drafting one. It should have been done decades ago. I'm just trying to be devil's advocate here. As Chiefs fans we all know that what is obvious doesn't always go hand in hand with our team.

Pretty much.

Pray.

Does anyone remember those draft commercials that showed the Texans without an offensive line or something like that. We need one without a QB...

I don't understand why everyone is so down on Geno. People were down on McNabb too, and I'd love to draft a player like that.

That's a brutal top 5 LMAO

Doesn't matter to me. I won't be a fan anymore.

We take anything at #1 that isn't a QB and I'm done.

Yep.

Yes it is conceivable that even a new GM wouldn’t take a QB with the pick. Pioli didn’t in 2009 and we needed one then too.

If Pioli is here next year, he trades for Alex Smith, and drafts Star or Teo #1.

True Fans ejaculate

He already traded for Cassel.

Pioli has proven to be an idiot.

Pioli addressed the QB situation before the 2009 draft, it just didn't work out.

Thats what i mean. A new GM could do the same thing.

That was the #3 pick, not the #1 pick.

If we would have had the #1 pick in 2009, Matthew Stafford would be our QB right now.

jesus ****ing christmas. " never will be elite" ? why the **** would we draft someone top 5 who doesnt have the possibility of being elite? & the fact weve drafted dl with our first pick for like the past 25 years. I cant take this. its like all these draft jerkoffs dont even research the chiefs when making a choice for us

There is nobody to trade for like 2009. In 2009, getting Cassel was a big deal, and we got him for a steal. That move and the contract that followed was a joke. There isn't a "Matt Cassel" out there this year. Where is the backup who is lighting the world on fire that would command a trade. Frankly if they want to sign Alex Smith to a two year deal I'm fine with that so long as we drafted a QB in the 1st round. Like it or not, this team needs multiple QBs.

And if we were not to draft a QB (which would be stupid IMO), I'd rather draft a CB or DE instead of a ILB, which isn't a big need. We can upgrade ILB in FA or in the middle of the draft.

There's isn't a CB or DE really worth the #1 overall pick either. MAYBE Damontre Moore at DE or Milliner at CB but that's about it.

Calm down. Don't be mad at Mcshay... all he is doing is looking at the previous Chiefs drafts and mocking what he sees is a pattern, which is passing on QB's and picking up Dline. I wouldn't be anymore surprised of it was an LSU player.
Take your frustration out on the reerun making the draft picks, not mocking them.

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Say hello to Sam Montgomery!

Looks like 2008 was the last time a QB did not go #1 overall.


IN retrospect, Matt Ryan should have been, because Miami selected Jake Long over him and where has that gotten them?

By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com


1. Kansas City: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

My take: We all know the Chiefs need a quarterback badly and we all know there are no great quarterback choices available at the top of the draft. So, this pick works. He would be another fine player on a potentially good defense. Perhaps the Chiefs could find a bridge veteran quarterback and take someone like North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon in the second round.



ESPN just trolling now.

Jones, Moore, or Milliner are definitely tempting. The true fan in me wants to trade back into first for QB

Yeah, it appears the guys at ESPN are trying to prop up Kiper and McShay's idea that there aren't any elite QBs in this draft.

Toeing the company line, so to speak.

So wish we sucked this bad last season.

We'd be sitting pretty w/ Andrew Luck right now.

Romeo and Daboll wouldn't be HC/OC.

This isn't True Fan. Not anywhere close. Actually, it's being very aggressive, but there isn't a talent after the top 2 guys to justify this type of play.

Worst-case scenario: draft Barkley.
Likely scenario: we draft Smith or Wilson .

Next move: profit.

You have to have a partner and it appears this is a weaker draft with players that no one truly "covets"

If the scouts aren't hot on Geno Smith or this Glennon guy (haven't watched him play at all this year - never really even heard of him before today actually)

And if they think they will both drop to 2nd round, then you take them in the 2nd rd.

What I don't want to happen...is that we take a QB #1 just because we have the #1 overall pick. Yes it is the most important position and we BADLY need one, but there isn't a RGIII or a Andrew Luck coming out of this draft.

I don't know if there really is a clear #1 pick at this point. There are a lot of guys are IMO are in the 5-10 range, but nothing that warrants a #1 overall pick IMO. Just like 2009, IMO it's going to hard as **** to trade down and KC is going to end up reaching again.

Wait, is he wanting to move back in the draft, or trade back into the first for a QB? I thought the latter and responded in kind.

Yeah, it sure would suck to pick a guy 8-10 slots too high and HAVE a QB vs. not taking one, trading down, or otherwise take a chance that we get NOBODY AND HAVE NO QB going into next year.

JFC. :rolleyes:

Just sitting, and waiting, and hoping, and praying...

I want to draft Jones/Moore/Milliner and pass on Smith but trade into first round for Wilson or Barkley at some reasonable point.

And if that plan fails?

You end up without a QB.

No ****ing way.

I love how all the true fans glossed over that he had RG3 going 11th and Tannehill out of the top 25 this time last year.

So? Who else are you going to take? What position?

Does anyone here really think the new GM will pass on a QB ? He's not gonna piss off the fan base that early.

Fair enough. The browns did it last year though by passing on Tannehill. They did the same with Quinn too I think. Makes me almost want to rethink the strategy.

Anybody who says that we should get another 5 tech who cannot rush the passer and pass up on a QB should be fired immediately.

I'll never read anything by him ever, ever again.

Yep, after the Senior Bowl and the combine and the workouts, there will be a QB in the #1 pick discussions. It's inevitable.

I can totally see Pioli doing this because he wants to "outsmart" everyone by taking a QB in the 2nd round.

Please Clark, save this franchise. Get rid of this clown.

IF THE SCOUTS SAY SO THEY MUST BE RIGHT AMIRITE

JFC. Get Andrew Luck out of your ****ing head. That shit ****ing NEVER EVER GODDAMN HAPPENS.

The talent we see here is NORMAL. In fact, it's above average. It's not a gimme slam dunk, but it doesn't ****ing have to be as long as the potential for true greatness is there.

And it is.

So draft the ****ing QB at #1 overall. Why? Because it's ****ing worth it.

Who's the valuable can't miss player we need to consider drafting instead of a QB?

No Von Millers. No elite CBs. Even the LTs ****ing suck if we wanted to go full true fan. No Calvin Johnsons or AJ Greens. No Trent Richardsons.

There's a pretty good DT, but I've been told even by the draft value tards that Star is not an option.

So what? What is it? What do we ****ing do if we don't draft a QB?

And if people say "trade down" I will burn a humane society to the ground. Have you not learned anything from the 2009 draft that if YOU don't want any of the players available at the top, then odds are nobody else does either?

****.

Why do you guys read these?

There have been 3 non-QBs picked #1 in the past 14 years. All 3 could easily be seen as mistakes.

Jake Long over Matt Ryan
Mario Williams over Young/Cutler
Courtney Brown over... well no one, really. Chad Pennington was the only QB taken in the first 2 rounds. Although there was a Brady hiding in the 6th.

For a team that's decent everywhere with one ridiculous gaping hole at one position in the roster, I have to believe even Pioli will take a QB if KC is picking at #1.

so apparently the world will end if we draft a QB at #1 even though McYamsucker says he is only #9?


we've waited 30 years for a QB and the only thing people care about is whether or not we draft for 'value'...because why? you care about clark's money more than a QB?

you care about mythical things - 'value' - more than a qb?

what is this sickness?

Jarvis Jones is a BAMF and Luke Joekel is one of the better LT's to come out in the last few year.

Having said that, I want a QB at 1 and nothing else. But those guys listed above are arguably the top talent in the class overall.

How on earth have we picked DL twice in the top 5 and once at 11 since 08 and we still need d linemen? Not to mention we run a 3-4 which only plays three linemen at a time

Yeah, I think JJ might be a little better prospect coming out the Aldon Smith who isn't doing too badly. There is some talent there, but those guys are for teams that don't have QB needs like we do.

because we suck hard

JJ Watt at #11

we get poe

etc...

I hope they re-sign Dorsey if it keeps them from drafting DL. He may not be great but I'd rather have Dorsey at de and geno at QB then star whatever at de and Alex smith at qb

Taking Star in the top 3 would be an even bigger reach than Jackson. Star is a big body but he doesn't really make a lot of plays (when the Beavers played Utah this year, we had our true Freshman center on him one and one and Star had one solo tackle). To take him in the top 3 means you think he is on par with Suh. I don't think he is even as good a DT as Stephen Paea was a couple of years ago and Paea went in the second round.

Chiefs fans say we should not reach on a QB that is not the best overall prospect but I'd take a Flacco, Freeman, Cutler prospect anyday over whatever defensive or offensive player in this draft.

Look at Big Ben, he probably wasn't a top 3 overall prospect in the 2004 draft but the guy fulfilled his potential and he's way more valuable than any position player drafted before him.

You take Geno Smith, if he fulfills his potential, he might make the Chiefs a perennial contender. If he fails, the team is probably not much worse if at all than if we had picked Lotulelei or whomever, and we just try again with another QB prospect with potential.

I'm amazed at how many people still don't see how much impact the QB has in today's game and also how much finding a future elite QB in round 2 and beyond is not only quite rare but also lucky.

You almost have to laugh.

This kind of incompetency is beyond laughable.

When you are the Chiefs, there is no such thing as a reach, unless you decide to NOT pick a ****ing 1st round QB.

No, he most certainly is not.

I'd rather have Kalil or even Tyron Smith than Joeckel.

And Jarvis Jones is a one-trick guy. His run defense is terrible. Not saying a pass rusher has to be COMPLETELY well-rounded, but his problem is that he's a sore liability. Teams that run at him WILL find success.

If Geno Smith shouldn't be drafted because he's not Andrew Luck, then Jarvis Jones is a far worse case of not being Von Miller.

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I think in the NFL today, just having a dominant pass rusher is key since stopping the pass is so important.

IMO Jarvis Jones is a guy who can get 15 sacks consistently. I know I'd take that if I was a team like the Jags.

Silk ones feel really nice, thongs not so much.


what's it like when Sorter sticks his tongue up your ass at night?

If you take Jarvis jones, where you playing him? Tampa coming off the field? Houston?

We won't take him and I don't want to, but man oh man can you imagine playing a 2-3-6 with Tamba, Houston and Jarvis in the stand up position on the line of scrimmage rushing the QB on 3rd down?

Holy shit that would be so insane.

I thin star is the right pick. Let's be honest, pioli isn't going to start this thing all over and overdraft a QB when there will be good experienced QB's like Alex Smith and Michael Vick available who can step in day one and help this team. This team needs to shore up its run D more than anything and star would help that. Excellent pick.

Either a bad troll or a reeruned true fan, you make the call.

What is this Jones, a whole team or city? :Poke:

Well Pioli is not going to be here so your whole argument is invalid.

I think he will. I think once quinn or cassel are in daboll's system for another year, you will see a much better team. People need to be patient. It takes time to get all the talent on the same page.

Quinn to Baldwin could be a great combo for KC over the next several years, just takes time to gel.

Pioli's dick in your asshole is a good combo, especially with some gel.

People need to realize that we aren't going to draft a QB. There isn't one to draft and more and more draft people are realizing this. Just deal with it, we can find one in the later rounds or in free agency. There will be some good options there.

One LAChieffan is enough.

Pioli knows what he's going. You aren't executive of the year three years in a row for no reason.

It looks like Laz is doing what he does best... bitch. We need to take a... (gasp) risk and take a QB. ****ing deal with it.

Any fan that does not want a QB at #1 needs to do us a favor and belcher themselves. This fanbase seriously needs an idiot cleansing.