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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-16-2013 11:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9408884)
Reid is great with QB's. Why not keep him around and see if he can turn it around?
i read a lot of dumb shit here. So, i must congratulate you on taking todays cake.
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NJChiefsFan 02-17-2013 01:02 AM
You have to be careful. As mentioned a while back, O.City is a bit of a sleeper troll when he gets annoyed.

Mother****erJones 02-17-2013 01:52 AM
You cant fix a shit QB. Cassel needs to be protected by a great line, great WRs, great coaching in order to do well. Ill take my chances with a QB out of this draft and my number 1 is Geno Smith

bevischief 02-17-2013 02:32 AM
JFC...

DaneMcCloud 02-17-2013 02:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9409483)
Turn what around?

He is what he is man. And that's a terrible quarterback.

What does he do well? Think about it.

He has no accuracy.
He has no arm.
He has a slow release.
He has no pocket presence.
He stares down receivers.
He doesn't go through his progressions, therefore he misses wide open receivers consistently.
He cant read defenses.
He crumbles under the slightest pressure.
He holds onto the ball too long.
Hes stupid.

He wouldn't even be a good backup. If he's back as our backup, what if our starter whoever it may be goes down in the preseason? You want another year of one of the worst QBs in the NFL? The season would be over before it started again.

Cut the giant failure and move on already. It's been long enough.
But if there's a fire at One Arrowhead Drive, you'll be happy he's around

Mother****erJones 02-17-2013 02:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9409893)
But if there's a fire at One Arrowhead Drive, you'll be happy he's around
Thats what the Fire Department is for :)

KCrockaholic 02-17-2013 02:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9408299)
Umm what? Take a pay cut or be cut?

They're actually considering keeping him!?!?

Wow. Between this & the other shit Dorsey said about the QBs in the draft, Im about already tired of him.

WHY the hell would we bring Casshole back? There is not one reason to bring him back.

WHY CANT WE GET RID OF HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????
Judge him by his actions. Not his words.

So far he's done a pretty good job IMO going out and signing a few guys and hoping one these pre-free agency bums will make the roster. No issues to report yet.

bevischief 02-17-2013 03:00 AM
Cassel is still on the team. Why is this still a story?

NJChiefsFan 02-17-2013 03:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9409893)
But if there's a fire at One Arrowhead Drive, you'll be happy he's around
Matt Cassel can't handle figurative fires. Literal ones he seems to do ok with.

Psyko Tek 02-17-2013 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 9407383)
I feel your pain bro, I live in ri, same shit 40 miles south.
so the east coast knows nothing about football?
always thought so

bigjosh 02-17-2013 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 9409971)
so the east coast knows nothing about football?
always thought so
Pretty much, especially patriots fans. They are the meg griffin of football fans.

milkman 02-17-2013 05:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9409893)
But if there's a fire at One Arrowhead Drive, you'll be happy he's around
If Cassel is still on the team, there's a good chance there will be a fire at Arrow head.

Mother****erJones 02-17-2013 06:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9409980)
If Cassel is still on the team, there's a good chance there will be a fire at Arrow head.
Did you hear that? (Strike match) GET DOWN!! (Arnold voice)

COchief 02-17-2013 08:23 AM
Matt, listen up buddy you do not have to take a pay cut! Stick to your guns, after all you graded out perfectly after your four years here. You deserve to be a starter in the NFL, I mean seriously 27-7 and a pro-bowl, who puts on a performance like that and then gets questioned? It doesn't matter that you have no talent or balls, what's important is that you work harder, being unable to throw a football doesn't matter if you stay longer at meetings and play catch in the offseason with your WRs.

BlackHelicopters 02-17-2013 08:31 AM
Just cut him.
Frank Boal, funny.

R8RFAN 02-17-2013 08:41 AM
Take the cut Matt, be a team player, lead this team back from the abyss and you will get your payday.

bevischief 02-17-2013 09:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9409980)
If Cassel is still on the team, there's a good chance there will be a fire at Arrow head.
This.

MahiMike 02-17-2013 10:10 AM
I've said for some time now that Cassel would be a great backup. Interesting thing, as much as he's sucked, he still has leverage. If I were him, I'd tell them no.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-17-2013 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9410062)
Take the cut Matt, be a team player, lead this team back from the abyss and you will get your payday.
I've heard rumblings that Oakland is interested.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-17-2013 10:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9410184)
I've heard rumblings that Oakland is interested.
omg that would almost make up for passing on a qb...
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NWTF 02-17-2013 11:29 AM
Cassell should decline and let them cut him. He needs to leave the Chiefs and the Chiefs need to move on. He will get another shot at his rightful position with another team. Clipboard holder.

Why he would accept a pay cut to stay and compete, for the team he shit the bed on is makes no sense.

threebag 02-17-2013 11:38 AM
All Pro Quarterback Matt God Damn Cassel and his Mother****ing K Swiss Tubes just ****ed you up dawg

NJChiefsFan 02-17-2013 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 9409971)
so the east coast knows nothing about football?
always thought so
Depends. Giant fans are pretty knowledgeable but they aren't motivated by jealousy. Chiefs fans have shown there is stupidity everywhere.

Direckshun 02-17-2013 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9410184)
I've heard rumblings that Oakland is interested.
Link that shit. Now.

ptlyon 02-17-2013 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9410761)
Link that shit. Now.
It was only gas

Mr_Tomahawk 02-17-2013 04:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9410184)
I've heard rumblings that Oakland is interested.
Link or gtfo

threebag 02-17-2013 04:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9410184)
I've heard rumblings that Oakland is interested.
Worked well for them once before.

Nightfyre 02-17-2013 05:15 PM
What do you think Oakland, two firsts and a second for Cassel?

NJChiefsFan 02-17-2013 05:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9410929)
What do you think Oakland, two firsts and a second for Cassel?
And they can make it two firsts if they make it to the AFCC Game.

Dunerdr 02-17-2013 08:03 PM
If oakland would trade a mcdouble for cassle its a win! And id be okay with passing on a first round qb in the event that we get to stick one in oaklands ass and break it off!

OrtonsPiercedTaint 02-17-2013 08:11 PM
Let us see if Cassel is a GM killer.

ILChief 02-17-2013 08:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9410184)
I've heard rumblings that Oakland is interested.
Then they can have Palmer, Leinart, and Cassel

Priest31kc 02-18-2013 11:45 AM
JFC...

Ben Fennell ‏@TheXOsOfLife
Matt Cassels 2012 was less than stellar-but after watching all 1035 snaps (296 passing downs)..He deserves chance to keep job. Big offseason

Dayze 02-18-2013 11:47 AM
Ben Fennell has been huffing poop out of a bag.

Rausch 02-18-2013 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9407287)
Chiefs to Cassel: take pay cut or be cut.
...

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Sofa King 02-18-2013 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9412315)
JFC...

Ben Fennell ‏@TheXOsOfLife
Matt Cassels 2012 was less than stellar-but after watching all 1035 snaps (296 passing downs)..He deserves chance to keep job. Big offseason
:spock:

Dayze 02-18-2013 11:54 AM
what he deserves it to be punched in the face for wasting 4 years of Hali/DJ/JC/B-Flo's careers.

bowener 02-18-2013 11:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9412315)
JFC...

Ben Fennell ‏@TheXOsOfLife
Matt Cassels 2012 was less than stellar-but after watching all 1035 snaps (296 passing downs)..He deserves chance to keep job. Big offseason
Find this man. Ridicule him until he cries turds.

Dayze 02-18-2013 12:00 PM
that guy couldn't evaluate talent even if he was asked by the girl at the bar who can swallow a banana to take her home.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-18-2013 08:05 PM
is it any wonder that such a large percentage of the fan base rides the short yellow and red bus? ****...
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bigjosh 02-18-2013 08:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9412315)
JFC...

Ben Fennell ‏@TheXOsOfLife
Matt Cassels 2012 was less than stellar-but after watching all 1035 snaps (296 passing downs)..He deserves chance to keep job. Big offseason
**** that ass hat.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps73ec99eb.png

Sorter 02-18-2013 08:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 9413819)
LMAO

rep for lexicon use.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 02-18-2013 08:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9412315)
JFC...

Ben Fennell ‏@TheXOsOfLife
Matt Cassels 2012 was less than stellar-but after watching all 1035 snaps (296 passing downs)..He deserves chance to keep job. Big offseason
After four years Mitch Holtus didn't give him a nickname. He's already practicing on some for the top 4 2013 QB draft prospects.

Hammock Parties 02-18-2013 08:27 PM
Guys like Ben Fennell are why you should never put any stock into most opinions from national media.

Sure, maybe he watched every 2012 snap.

Our opinions have been formed because we've seen his suck over a 4-year period.

He was total shit in 2009 and total shit in 2012.

Big waste of our ****ing time and to extend that would be TRUE LUNACY!!!!

bigjosh 02-18-2013 08:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9413824)
LMAO

rep for lexicon use.
well returned rep for all the awesome gifs you share.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...psfe06736f.gif

OrtonsPiercedTaint 02-18-2013 08:31 PM
After looking at that signature I wonder if Andy Reid and Teddy Roosevelt have been seen in the same room together? Probably not.

O.city 02-18-2013 08:33 PM
BJ Kissel ‏@bkissel7
#Chiefs have $14 million in cap roll-over from '12. Currently at $106 mill w/ that included for 2013. Cassel, TJax frees another $20.8 mill
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So we can potentially have how much space total by cutting Tyson and Cassel in combined with the roll over?

Dayze 02-18-2013 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 9413819)
ROFL

Need a Moran, and genious reference to complete the tri-fecta

crazycoffey 02-18-2013 09:16 PM
If casshole stays and starts, I just won't know how to react. But IF he does, and IF he ends up successful, I'm sure gonna get a lot of giggles with the threads like this one....

Sorter 02-18-2013 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 9414023)
If casshole stays and starts, I just won't know how to react. But IF he does, and IF he ends up successful, I'm sure gonna get a lot of giggles with the threads like this one....
ROFL

crazycoffey 02-18-2013 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9414031)
ROFL
Laugh it up fuzzball. /solo

Sorter 02-18-2013 09:35 PM
Wookie is a derogatory term /Lando

Hammock Parties 02-18-2013 09:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 9414023)
If casshole stays and starts, I just won't know how to react. But IF he does, and IF he ends up successful, I'm sure gonna get a lot of giggles with the threads like this one....
I am trying to understand this post.

Are you saying that somewhere in that pea brain of yours, you're rooting for Matt Cassel to be our QB? That you believe he can be a good NFL QB?

crazycoffey 02-18-2013 09:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9414094)
Wookie is a derogatory term /Lando
Arrrrrwrrrrrronnkkk raarrh

Sorter 02-18-2013 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9414100)
I am trying to understand this post.

Are you saying that somewhere in that pea brain of yours, you're rooting for Matt Cassel to be our QB? That you believe he can be a good NFL QB?
I saw Cassel and successful in the same sentence with no negative and kinda shut down mentally. :)

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-18-2013 09:43 PM
You will bring Chocolate Penii and the Wookie to me...
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crazycoffey 02-18-2013 09:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9414100)
I am trying to understand this post.

Are you saying that somewhere in that pea brain of yours, you're rooting for Matt Cassel to be our QB? That you believe he can be a good NFL QB?
I'm saying, I'm more of a realist than you. I don't care to see him wear red and gold ever again, even if it was at McDonalds. But I also don't pretend to know if Matt casshole could salvage his career or not, here, someplace else or as a bag boy for save-a-lot. All I'm saying is it would be funny/ entertaining to me. Nothing more, nothing less.

Sorter 02-18-2013 09:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 9414134)
I'm saying, I'm more of a realist than you. I don't care to see him wear red and gold ever again, even if it was at McDonalds. But I also don't pretend to know if Matt casshole could salvage his career or not, here, someplace else or as a bag boy for save-a-lot. All I'm saying is it would be funny/ entertaining to me. Nothing more, nothing less.
There is no way Cassel salvages what little career he's had. His poor pocket presence, inability to complete throws under pressure, lack of accuracy, poor throwing mechanics + slow release, and inability to complete throws down the field are so significant that at his age it is literally impossible.

RealSNR 02-18-2013 09:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9413865)
Guys like Ben Fennell are why you should never put any stock into most opinions from national media.

Sure, maybe he watched every 2012 snap.

Our opinions have been formed because we've seen his suck over a 4-year period.

He was total shit in 2009 and total shit in 2012.

Big waste of our ****ing time and to extend that would be TRUE LUNACY!!!!
I never trust bald guys with beards.

One reason why I'm always a little leery of this place.

Bowser 02-18-2013 09:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9414145)
There is no way Cassel salvages what little career he's had. His poor pocket presence, inability to complete throws under pressure, lack of accuracy, poor throwing mechanics + slow release, and inability to complete throws down the field are so significant that at his age it is literally impossible.
BUT HE WAS A PRO BOWLER IN 2010!!

crazycoffey 02-18-2013 09:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9414145)
There is no way Cassel salvages what little career he's had. His poor pocket presence, inability to complete throws under pressure, lack of accuracy, poor throwing mechanics + slow release, and inability to complete throws down the field are so significant that at his age it is literally impossible.
And many thought there was literally no way Hali would ever be successful in the 3-4. Again I say, you just don't know. Weis got production out if him. Again, to reiterate for the mouth breathers, I am not saying I want him to stay.

crazycoffey 02-18-2013 09:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 9414159)
And many thought there was literally no way Hali would ever be successful in the 3-4. Again I say, you just don't know. Weis got production out if him. Again, to reiterate for the mouth breathers, I am not saying I want him to stay.
And many thought priest wouldn't even make the team after his injury, again I said, you never know. Now in priest's and Hali's cases I WAS rooting for them.

Hammock Parties 02-18-2013 10:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 9414134)
I also don't pretend to know if Matt casshole could salvage his career or not.
LMAO

Guys like Matt Cassel don't have good NFL careers.

It's like asking if Gus Frerotte could salvage his career.

You say you're a realist...why ignore the reality of every other shitty QB that has come through the league?

Cassel isn't suddenly going to develop pocket presence, accuracy or non-shitty Qb traits at 31.

He's done.

O.city 02-18-2013 10:04 PM
If we do in fact cut him, would he gain any interest from another team?

Hammock Parties 02-18-2013 10:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 9414163)
And many thought priest wouldn't even make the team after his injury, again I said, you never know. Now in priest's and Hali's cases I WAS rooting for them.
Priest and Hali had ACTUAL TALENT.

And in Priest's case, most people thought he wouldn't regain his old form, and he never did. It was an embarrassingly pathetic "comeback."

BossChief 02-18-2013 10:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9413890)
BJ Kissel ‏@bkissel7
#Chiefs have $14 million in cap roll-over from '12. Currently at $106 mill w/ that included for 2013. Cassel, TJax frees another $20.8 mill
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So we can potentially have how much space total by cutting Tyson and Cassel in combined with the roll over?
106-21= 85

The cap should be set at 121 million.

121
-85
---------
36 million

BossChief 02-18-2013 10:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9414206)
If we do in fact cut him, would he gain any interest from another team?
Bill Muir
Brian Daboll

crazycoffey 02-18-2013 10:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9414206)
If we do in fact cut him, would he gain any interest from another team?
No clue, stanzi is still on our roster, Vick just resigned, tebow is still on a team. Would you really rather have Vick, stanzi, and tebow over casshole?

BossChief 02-18-2013 10:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9414220)
106-21= 85

The cap should be set at 121 million.

121
-85
---------
36 million
Bowe - 10
Albert - 10
Colquit 3?
Dorsey 3?
Jackson 4?

O.city 02-18-2013 10:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9414220)
106-21= 85

The cap should be set at 121 million.

121
-85
---------
36 million
I'd say that woudl give us enough to re up our own free agents.

Hammock Parties 02-18-2013 10:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9414229)
Bowe - 10
Albert - 10
Colquit 3?
Dorsey 3?
Jackson 4?
**** giving Dorsey or Jackson money.

O.city 02-18-2013 10:17 PM
Yeah, I'm not paying Doresy or Jackson at this point.

crazycoffey 02-18-2013 10:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9414211)
Priest and Hali had ACTUAL TALENT.

And in Priest's case, most people thought he wouldn't regain his old form, and he never did. It was an embarrassingly pathetic "comeback."
You've been in the basement on CP too much. Every player to sign an NFL contract has talent. Matt is grossly overpaid for what he's done as a chief. But he can throw a football. And weis proved Matt could have success not in NE. Can Matt get back to that season? I don't know, and neither do you. You just think its easier to sling shit, call names and use absolutes.

crazycoffey 02-18-2013 10:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9414247)
Yeah, I'm not paying Doresy or Jackson at this point.
With these two, you have to wonder if scheme hurt them. Or if either, both or neither are salvageable to the new DC. I want to agree with you because I think they've been over paid too. Both had a flash or two to give some hope, but it's too little too late. If we keep one, which one and why?

Hammock Parties 02-18-2013 10:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 9414269)
You've been in the basement on CP too much. Every player to sign an NFL contract has talent. Matt is grossly overpaid for what he's done as a chief. But he can throw a football. And weis proved Matt could have success not in NE. Can Matt get back to that season? I don't know, and neither do you. You just think its easier to sling shit, call names and use absolutes.
:facepalm:

Matt CAN'T get back to that season because he won't face the easiest schedule in the NFL with the best rushing attack and a perfect storm from his WR, OC and multiple DBs dropping INTs EVER AGAIN.

And even IF he did, he'd blow it in the playoffs again. That's not "successful."

Perhaps I chose my words poorly. Matt Cassel isn't a good player. Hali and Priest are and were. Big difference.

crazycoffey 02-18-2013 10:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9414334)
:facepalm:

Matt CAN'T get back to that season because he won't face the easiest schedule in the NFL with the best rushing attack and a perfect storm from his WR, OC and multiple DBs dropping INTs EVER AGAIN.

And even IF he did, he'd blow it in the playoffs again. That's not "successful."

Perhaps I chose my words poorly. Matt Cassel isn't a good player. Hali and Priest are and were. Big difference.
While you're gazing into that crystal ball of yours, would you be so kind as to share the lotto numbers?

Hammock Parties 02-18-2013 10:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 9414385)
While you're gazing into that crystal ball of yours, would you be so kind as to share the lotto numbers?
Do you really think you need a crystal ball to determine what I've posted?

We've seen the same shit constantly from Matt for four seasons now.

He's not changing, and NFL teams won't give him another chance.

crazycoffey 02-18-2013 10:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9414395)
Do you really think you need a crystal ball to determine what I've posted?

We've seen the same shit constantly from Matt for four seasons now.

He's not changing, and NFL teams won't give him another chance.
Forgive me, I left something off. You may be exactly right. I guess he's the next Jamarcus russel, right? So casshole is out of the NFL next year, by your expert opinion? What are you willing to risk to back up your statement?

Hammock Parties 02-18-2013 10:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 9414413)
Forgive me, I left something off. You may be exactly right. I guess he's the next Jamarcus russel, right? So casshole is out of the NFL next year, by your expert opinion? What are you willing to risk to back up your opinions?
No, he'll go somewhere and be a backup.

Which is what he is. He's Gus Frerotte. A douchebag who steals from fans.

crazycoffey 02-18-2013 10:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9414420)
No, he'll go somewhere and be a backup.

Which is what he is. He's Gus Frerotte. A douchebag who steals from fans.
Sorry, I thought you said NFL teams will not give him another chance. He's done, only positive he has was a soft schedule and lucky bounces.

Lets go a different direction, what QBs that started last year for any team, is worse than casshole? Then which 2nd string?


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