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seclark 08-06-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9862904)
and I know...I don't belong...Deer in heaven /Clapton

ROFL
****in nut.
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Pablo 08-06-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 9862453)
As a gun owner, I would like to point out that this person, the sicko who did this, is in no way representative of the rest of us. Almost all of us are responsible and keep our firearms locked up and secure, keep the ammunition stored separately, and follow all proper safety procedures. A responsible gun owner would never discharge a firearm within the city limits, and I personally would never shoot a deer because I admire the grace and beauty of the creatures. I would only shoot a worthless animal like a cat.

Durr I shoot cats cuz i r tough durr.

****ing moron.

kysirsoze 08-06-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby (Post 9862740)
Preach mah brutha! :clap: It's because caring for something vastly less developed than themselves garners more of a "good feeling" for them than the plight of an actual fellow human being. It's mind boggling. And reeruned to no end.

So if you saw an article about someone randomly murdering someone's pet dog was posted that would mean nothing to you? Also, concern for the loss of the people who cared for this deer in no way conflicts with the sympathy felt towards human victims of violent crime.

Radar Chief 08-06-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 9862922)
Durr I shoot cats cuz i r tough durr.

****ing moron.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2qaof9z.gif

Al Bundy 08-06-2013 04:31 PM

People are ****ing assholes. It was probably some piece of shit Raiders fan.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 08-06-2013 05:10 PM

there is a reason they have :evil: horns.

Cannibal 08-06-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 9862649)
It sucks someone killed this deer and didn't eat it, but I don't get why people get more upset about someone shooting an animal than they do about all the people that get killed every day.

Because most people are worthless scum.

BigMeatballDave 08-06-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9862904)
and I know...I don't belong...Deer in heaven /Clapton

LMAO Awesome

Setsuna 08-06-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 9862946)
So if you saw an article about someone randomly murdering someone's pet dog was posted that would mean nothing to you? Also, concern for the loss of the people who cared for this deer in no way conflicts with the sympathy felt towards human victims of violent crime.

I don't care about animals. Period.

stevieray 08-06-2013 06:56 PM

....I bet it was John Doe....the mailman would know.

Bwana 08-06-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 9863586)
....I bet it was John Doe....the mailman would know.

Well I guess that's better than John Deere.

stevieray 08-06-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 9863608)
Well I guess that's better than John Deere.

..unless he got the "letter"....

maybe she was cheating with Buck...looks like he'll have to cancel his trip to KC.

LoneWolf 08-06-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby (Post 9863580)
I don't care about animals. Period.

Said every serial killer in history. JK, we've already had this discussion and I I'll give you props for being consistent in your views.

Setsuna 08-06-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9863825)
Said every serial killer in history. JK, we've already had this discussion and I I'll give you props for being consistent in your views.

LOL thanks. I already know I can't date anyone who would want a pet or already has one. Ah well. Might have to go to another country to find a chick haha.

ThaVirus 08-06-2013 08:42 PM

Africa. Go back to Africa.

Setsuna 08-06-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9863913)
Africa. Go back to Africa.

Back? Ninja you trippin.

kysirsoze 08-06-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby (Post 9863580)
I don't care about animals. Period.

I'm talking about caring for the loss of the people who DID care about this particular animal (Of whom there seem to be many). Are you incapable of that? Or are you just eager to make a point about how worthless animals are? Honestly curious.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-07-2013 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9862344)
This deer was a danger to no one. She lived inside the cemetery walls, and has so since she was a fawn. This was just somebody being mean for no reason whatsoever.

Stands to reason it was living in a cemetary for a reason. It just wanted to die .

Setsuna 08-07-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 9864051)
I'm talking about caring for the loss of the people who DID care about this particular animal (Of whom there seem to be many). Are you incapable of that? Or are you just eager to make a point about how worthless animals are? Honestly curious.

Wait what? You mean if the people that cared for the animal died? Yeah I'd care. Dude you got nothing. In my mind there is no "loss." It's a freaking animal put on this earth for our sustenance. Nothing more. ROFL Wow you call it a loss? LMAO my lord that's hilarious. Like that wimpy deer had any capacity to impact humanity in any way.

Skyy God 08-07-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9863913)
Africa. Go back to Africa.

They like pets/dogs/animals there too. Antarctica is really the best place for Setsuna and his misanthropy.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec...-dogs-20121227

ChiefsCountry 08-30-2013 01:42 PM

Justice
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/08/30...of-kansas.html

vailpass 08-30-2013 01:45 PM

Did they at least make jerky and steaks?

WhawhaWhat 08-30-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9926758)

Google his name and you can see his facebook. Independence trash.

Gravedigger 08-30-2013 01:57 PM

Because Daffy Bugs and Elmer all finally agreed on what season it was.

9er guy 08-30-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9926765)
Google his name and you can see his facebook. Independence trash.

****ing cockamamie story.

He said he shot the deer (with a .45 mind you) to "Feed his family".

Bro it's 2013. It's not 19th century Missouri.

You wanna feed your family? Don't get hand tats at 19 so you can get a ****ing job.

Such bullshit.

I LOVE deer meat, I honestly don't know why more people don't eat it.

It's waaaaay better for you than the shitty meat they're tying to give us in the stores.

But I'm not buying that story for one minute.

vailpass 08-30-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9926796)
****ing cockamamie story.

He said he shot the deer (with a .45 mind you) to "Feed his family".

Bro it's 2013. It's not 19th century Missouri.

You wanna feed your family? Don't get hand tats at 19 so you can get a ****ing job.

Such bullshit.

I LOVE deer meat, I honestly don't know why more people don't eat it.

It's waaaaay better for you than the shitty meat they're tying to give us in the stores.

But I'm not buying that story for one minute.

At least they ate it, didn't kill just to kill.

jd1020 08-30-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9926796)
****ing cockamamie story.

He said he shot the deer (with a .45 mind you) to "Feed his family".

Bro it's 2013. It's not 19th century Missouri.

You wanna feed your family? Don't get hand tats at 19 so you can get a ****ing job.

Such bullshit.

I LOVE deer meat, I honestly don't know why more people don't eat it.

It's waaaaay better for you than the shitty meat they're tying to give us in the stores.

But I'm not buying that story for one minute.

I get deer jerky every year from my brothers. I used to go hunting with them but growing up 90 miles away and in a bigger city I've never been big into hunting. But they go every year and they take their deers to a butcher who adds some pork and other shit and makes homemade slimjim type jerky. Shits sooooooo good.

jd1020 08-30-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9926802)
At least they ate it, didn't kill just to kill.

They didn't eat it, though.

He shot the deer and couldn't take the carcass because the gates were locked. Guy is lying out his ass and just shot the deer to be an asshole.

vailpass 08-30-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9926811)
They didn't eat it, though.

He shot the deer and couldn't take the carcass because the gates were locked. Guy is lying out his ass and just shot the deer to be an asshole.

Oh. That's different. Did he think he could get it and not know the gates were locked?

jd1020 08-30-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9926825)
Oh. That's different. Did he think he could get it and not know the gates were locked?

I don't know.

He apparently lived near by because he claims to have been on his front porch when he saw the deer in the cemetery. Then he went to get his gun and jumped a wall to get in the cemetery to shoot it.

So the guy lives near by a cemetery with a resident deer that I guess was pretty famous with the locals and claims he did it to feed his family and didn't know it was tamed? And he shot it with a handgun? Got a real hunter over here.

Ya. Not buyin it.

Bearcat 08-30-2013 02:23 PM

$1000 and up to a year in jail for killing a deer out of season? Holy crap.

I get why people are upset, but it is just a deer, and it's not like that one particular deer was universally known by everyone who might step foot into the cemetery. Pay a fine, sure, but sending someone to jail for shooting a deer is a bit much.

Valiant 08-30-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9926802)
At least they ate it, didn't kill just to kill.

Umm. From what I read they did not.and who feeds deer meat to a 8month old?

Guy is lying out of his ass.

vailpass 08-30-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9926835)
I don't know.

He apparently lived near by because he claims to have been on his front porch when he saw the deer in the cemetery. Then he went to get his gun and jumped a wall to get in the cemetery to shoot it.

So the guy lives near by a cemetery with a resident deer that I guess was pretty famous with the locals and claims he did it to feed his family and didn't know it was tamed? And he shot it with a handgun? Got a real hunter over here.

Ya. Not buyin it.

So he shot the town pet? Yeah not good.

jd1020 08-30-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 9926843)
$1000 and up to a year in jail for killing a deer out of season? Holy crap.

I get why people are upset, but it is just a deer, and it's not like that one particular deer was universally known by everyone who might step foot into the cemetery. Pay a fine, sure, but sending someone to jail for shooting a deer is a bit much.

Poaching and shooting a firearm inside city limits?

Valiant 08-30-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 9926843)
$1000 and up to a year in jail for killing a deer out of season? Holy crap.

I get why people are upset, but it is just a deer, and it's not like that one particular deer was universally known by everyone who might step foot into the cemetery. Pay a fine, sure, but sending someone to jail for shooting a deer is a bit much.

It was known by the locals. He lived across the street. And his story is strange as ****.

Dumbshit probably turned himself in to collect the award.

Bearcat 08-30-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9926852)
Poaching and shooting a firearm inside city limits?

If that's what they're getting him on, sure... possibly endangering others... even though a year still seems like a lot. The article just said 'shooting a deer in out of season', which seems petty for a grand + possible jail time.

It would just be kind of dumb for him get jail time because the judge took into account the history of that particular deer within the community. Sad story. People are assholes. Still just a deer.

ChiefsCountry 08-30-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 9926843)
$1000 and up to a year in jail for killing a deer out of season? Holy crap.

I get why people are upset, but it is just a deer, and it's not like that one particular deer was universally known by everyone who might step foot into the cemetery. Pay a fine, sure, but sending someone to jail for shooting a deer is a bit much.

Poaching is huge in the country. It is worth time in jail.

jd1020 08-30-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 9926862)
If that's what they're getting him on, sure... possibly endangering others... even though a year still seems like a lot. The article just said 'shooting a deer in out of season', which seems petty for a grand + possible jail time.

It would just be kind of dumb for him get jail time because the judge took into account the history of that particular deer within the community. Sad story. People are assholes. Still just a deer.

He's getting off light, imo. He's getting a misdemeanor for what should be a felony for shooting a firearm inside city limits.

Bearcat 08-30-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 9926857)
It was known by the locals. He lived across the street. And his story is strange as ****.

Dumbshit probably turned himself in to collect the award.

Doesn't mean much... in the last house I lived, I went like a year before I met my neighbors, and it's not like it was a sketchy neighborhood. People keep to themselves, it doesn't say he had been there for any length of time, and I could see why neighbors wouldn't randomly chat about a deer in the cemetery.

He could have known and could be full of shit... maybe he was talking with a friend one night, hating on the deer, and someone dared him to kill it. There are a lot of assumptions in thinking he was well aware of the deer though and did it just to be an asshole.

Bearcat 08-30-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9926874)
He's getting off light, imo. He's getting a misdemeanor for what should be a felony for shooting a firearm inside city limits.

At least that would make sense, for endangering people.

vailpass 08-30-2013 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9926874)
He's getting off light, imo. He's getting a misdemeanor for what should be a felony for shooting a firearm inside city limits.

not like he was standing in the middle of town shooting at people though.

jd1020 08-30-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9926880)
not like he was standing in the middle of town shooting at people though.

Doesn't matter.

Miss the deer or the bullet goes through and a kid walking down the street takes a bullet to the face...

memyselfI 08-30-2013 02:43 PM

Those who shoot animals are compensating for something...

or lack of something. Miniscule something, perhaps?

gblowfish 08-30-2013 02:53 PM

Whatta Douchebag.

https://www.facebook.com/phoenix.vankirk?fref=ts

Fish 08-30-2013 02:56 PM

I would bet $1000 that douche has no clue how to field dress and butcher a deer. No way in hell....

jd1020 08-30-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9926917)

That the right guy? If so he looks like a real outdoors man with his flat billed hat with the sticker still on and diamond earrings.

Fish 08-30-2013 02:58 PM

Couple grand worth of tattoos by 19. Yet can't feed the family......

Radar Chief 08-30-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9926921)
I would bet $1000 that douche has no clue how to field dress and butcher a deer. No way in hell....

Exactly what I was thinking. If he really needed the meat to feed his family he could've field dressed it and packed it over the fence.

gblowfish 08-30-2013 03:16 PM

I feel very bad still for the families who visited the cemetery and looked forward to seeing Ella there. The people who keep the cemetery cleaned up are volunteers. It's just such a shame to lose a little ray of happiness in an otherwise dreary place.

At least they know who did it now, and he's been punished.

Easy 6 08-30-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9862384)
I'm with you, George. Some things like this just don't make sense. People suck.

Me too, whoever did it is the same guy who wont atleast try (without killing himself or someone else) to avoid a small animal in the road, but actually swerve to get it.

I have O problems with deer hunting for food, or even sport, because they do need thinned, if not they're not only a danger to people but they're a danger to themselves - diseases, starvation etc.

But to shoot something just because its there, and is easy prey, is lowlife shit, i bet the guy who did it has one of those dumbass "sack of balls" hanging from his hitch and some "I'd Rather Be Cummins Than Strokin" stickers in his back window.

vailpass 08-30-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9926966)
I feel very bad still for the families who visited the cemetery and looked forward to seeing Ella there. The people who keep the cemetery cleaned up are volunteers. It's just such a shame to lose a little ray of happiness in an otherwise dreary place.

At least they know who did it now, and he's been punished.

now that you put it that way....

Easy 6 08-30-2013 03:28 PM

Ah, so they got the little sack of shit eh?

Great.

jd1020 08-30-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9926975)
Me too, whoever did it is the same guy who wont atleast try (without killing himself or someone else) to avoid a small animal in the road, but actually swerve to get it.

I have O problems with deer hunting for food, or even sport, because they do need thinned, if not they're not only a danger to people but they're a danger to themselves - diseases, starvation etc.

But to shoot something just because its there, and is easy prey, is lowlife shit, i bet the guy who did it has one of those dumbass "sack of balls" hanging from his hitch and some "I'd Rather Be Cummins Than Strokin" stickers in his back window.

I bet the kid who did it has over sized wheels, chrome spinners, and blacked out windows.

Easy 6 08-30-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9926989)
I bet the kid who did it has over sized wheels, chrome spinners, and blacked out windows.

Ya, i had it pegged wrong on this one.

vailpass 08-30-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9926995)
Ya, i had it pegged wrong on this one.

It's hard to think different once you see the picture.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-30-2013 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9862322)
I'm out on patrol looking for them now, can you give me a description?


What ! You too stupid to know how to profile ????

jspchief 08-30-2013 04:00 PM

Flat billed hat brah

Phobia 08-30-2013 04:08 PM

It looks like they'll having a memorial service for the deer Sept 14th. I presume you'll attend, GBF?

Bearcat 08-30-2013 04:08 PM

Calls someone a dumbass.


Applies all kinds of foresight, logic, and common sense to his actions.

Psyko Tek 08-30-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 9862441)
Anybody ever figure out what happened to your Momma and Daddy?

from his posts guessing suicide

vailpass 08-30-2013 07:24 PM

It's a ****ing deer.

jd1020 08-30-2013 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9927518)
It's a ****ing deer.

It's a deer to you. It was a pet to the cemetery and a comforting friend to everyone that visited.

Just think of pets you've had, do you look at them as just a cat or just a dog? Probably not. I bet you consider them a part of your family.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 08-30-2013 07:30 PM

hope it's not to late for a rape kit on the deer.

vailpass 08-30-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9927541)
It's a deer to you. It was a pet to the cemetery and a comforting friend to everyone that visited.

Just think of pets you've had, do you look at them as just a cat or just a dog? Probably not. I bet you consider them a part of your family.

Point well taken.

Iowanian 08-31-2013 08:20 AM

I'll bet some of you were turrrbul at Oregon trail


"you let animals go, you return to the wagon with 0 pounds of meat"

Tombstone RJ 08-31-2013 08:39 AM

so, a pet deer funeral at a human cemetery? So, is it now a pet cemetery? I think they should cremate the deer and sprinkle it's ashes over all the gravestones. Of course, they just have to sing Amazing Grace whilst the funeral pyre burns....

gblowfish 08-31-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9927052)
It looks like they'll having a memorial service for the deer Sept 14th. I presume you'll attend, GBF?

No, I never met Ella, just saw her on a couple occasions driving to and from work. But Bruce Matthews, the guy who is the main steward over the cemetery, is a friend of mine. He's a great guy, and I know this whole thing was really sad for him. I think it's a nice thing that they're doing, and I'm all for it.

Iowanian 08-31-2013 09:14 AM

Funerals for Food.

Merca

Imon Yourside 08-31-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9927020)
What ! You too stupid to know how to profile ????

Got you in my sights.

CoMoChief 08-31-2013 09:51 AM

back in the day in some parts of the country if you didn't shoot a deer you didn't eat.

NewChief 08-31-2013 11:09 AM

Any sportsman that defends this is a piss poor excuse for a sportsman. The ****ers didn't take the meat. They just shot the damned thing to shoot it. I ****ing hate hunters like that. I have a cousin who is like that and will go for a walk in the woods and just blast away at random birds and shit he sees for no reason. Pisses me off.

DJJasonp 08-31-2013 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9927541)
It's a deer to you. It was a pet to the cemetery and a comforting friend to everyone that visited.

Just think of pets you've had, do you look at them as just a cat or just a dog? Probably not. I bet you consider them a part of your family.

I think this is the point George is making.

Whether we all agree or not about hunting, I think we all understand the importance of a human life versus an animal's life.

but - this situation is unique, as JD and others have put it, a cemetery is not an amusement park.

And people spend their time there reflecting and searching.....for anything that might help them get through a rough time in their life.

You have to be pretty damn cynical not to understand how this deer could have meant a lot of different things to a lot of different visitors to the cemetery.

While I love animals, I'm not a PETA member, nor am I going to judge those that hunt (as others stated, it WAS necessary on the Oregon Trail :doh!: ), but sometimes there are unique situations that LOGIC dictates that it transcends the typical arguments.

Tombstone RJ 08-31-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9928570)
Any sportsman that defends this is a piss poor excuse for a sportsman. The ****ers didn't take the meat. They just shot the damned thing to shoot it. I ****ing hate hunters like that. I have a cousin who is like that and will go for a walk in the woods and just blast away at random birds and shit he sees for no reason. Pisses me off.

why are you saying it was "hunters"? I think it was some kids with too much time on their hands.

NewChief 08-31-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9928617)
why are you saying it was "hunters"? I think it was some kids with too much time on their hands.

True, though I was more talking about a generic type of "hunter" than this particular kid: those who just like to kill shit for no other reason than killing it and don't harvest the meat.

Eleazar 08-31-2013 01:17 PM

Yeah, he's lying. Just some douche being a douche.

T-post Tom 08-31-2013 01:49 PM

The deer had previously broken into Byron David Smith's house while on vacation in Minnesota. She had it coming.

9er guy 08-31-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 9926960)
Exactly what I was thinking. If he really needed the meat to feed his family he could've field dressed it and packed it over the fence.

Yea. If you're hungry like that, you're gonna find a way to get to that meat.

threebag 08-31-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9929011)
Yea. If you're hungry like that, you're gonna find a way to get to that meat.

I've known some wives like that

ShortRoundChief 08-31-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9928617)
why are you saying it was "hunters"? I think it was some kids with too much time on their hands.

Yeah I'm not a big hunter by any means, but I've never heard anybody deer hunting with a pistol.

This was a punk who got a gun and said, "hey look at what a big guy I am."

Phobia 08-31-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9928310)
No, I never met Ella, just saw her on a couple occasions driving to and from work. But Bruce Matthews, the guy who is the main steward over the cemetery, is a friend of mine. He's a great guy, and I know this whole thing was really sad for him. I think it's a nice thing that they're doing, and I'm all for it.

You're a good friend. I think the kid who did it is a giant douchebag. You should attend the memorial service. I'd feel silly doing it but if I were friends with Bruce, I would attend.


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