Can this ****in long term troll be banned please. You're not a chiefs fan. You are an attention whore and a ****in loser. So, knock the crap out of the guy so that the chiefs can waste another year of Charles, DJ, Hali, Flowers, Bowe, just so you can say "see, I told you so". Thats not a fan. From here on out, I consider you nothing more than a troll. What team you are a fan of for real, I'm not sure. You are a megadeuche

True that. There is mutual respect and affection.

You really have no concept of what Clay was like in the early days, do you? You weren't here. People nowadays tolerate him because that is what we do here. He provided (and to a large extent even now) absolutely no entertainment value. He is the CP version of herpes; he simply does not go away so you learn to live with him. It is you relative newcomers who think he has some standing with those of us who migrated from the Star board.

FYP

Good observation.

We saw that for years on the 49ers forum. Some gave up on him as a bust. Others fell in love with his character and never gave up hope.

The QB position is polarizing like no other. Nobody comes to blows over corner backs or tight ends. But people will trash each other over QB. Double so when it is about Alex Smith. Everybody knows that the QB is the single most important guy on the field.

Then people don't need to take him so seriously. Why so serious?

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/why%20so%20serious" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x447/Gonzonian/Why-so-serious.gif" border="0" alt="why so serious photo: Why so serious? Why-so-serious.gif"/></a>

Wrong.

People ignore him because of his early history, and because of his drama.
He brings it on himself, because so much of his football opinion is driven by PFFF, but the reality is that he often does raise good questions.

Most of you just want to pass it off as troolling and bury your heads in the sand.

As an RG3 fan, this video scares the shit outta me and makes me worry about the kid's future. However, the guy is tough as nails!

Alex, on Andy & the 49ers...


Chiefs' Smith faces former teammates on Friday


Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/08/14/565...#storylink=cpy


Rest assured, there is no resentment or hard edges from the always easygoing Smith, who faces his former 49ers teammates in a preseason game Friday. Following a late-afternoon practice at Missouri Western State on Wednesday, he was funny, relaxed and eager for another chance to help lift a fallen franchise, albeit one that is not nearly as talent-starved as the 49ers squad he took over in 2005.

Smith said he might have had some bitterness about his eight seasons in San Francisco if it weren't for the last two years there under coach Jim Harbaugh. He was 20-6-1 as a starter during that span, threw 30 touchdown passes against six interceptions and experienced his greatest NFL memory � his winning touchdown pass to Vernon Davis in the 2011 divisional playoffs.

Of course, there were also some bumps.

Harbaugh and the 49ers flirted with then-free agent Peyton Manning in 2012 just months after Smith led the 49ers to the playoff win against New Orleans. And, of course, Harbaugh chose Kaepernick as his starting quarterback over Smith after a concussion kept Smith out of a Week 11 game against Chicago.

Still, Smith called the Manning affair "a little blurb," and he said going to the Super Bowl in February, even if he watched it from the sideline, was a memory he'd always cherish.

His lowest point by far, he said, was trying to play with a badly separated throwing shoulder in 2007 when Mike Nolan was the 49ers' coach.

"I felt I was getting pushed to come back, then I did, and then it's, 'Well, you're not playing good,'" Smith said. "As a young player, that was really hard for me to handle.

"That, and 2010 was a long year," he continued. "... That was very frustrating because it was the exact same team the next year, pretty much."

Smith said he was excited and optimistic about his new situation because so much of it reminds him of the ascendant 49ers of 2011, right down to where Chiefs coach Andy Reid positions himself in practice.

"A lot like Jim," Smith said. "Literally, they stand in the same spot. They stand right behind you."

Reid is Smith's fourth head coach in nine seasons, and he's had eight offensive coordinators in that span, too. One of the few benefits from that experience is that Smith quickly can spot a good situation when he sees it.

And he said he has a similar comfort level with Reid, who has a reputation for coaching quarterbacks, that he did with Harbaugh.

"As a quarterback, your biggest pet peeve is that, you throw a ball too high and he (the coach) tells you to get it down, right?" Smith said. "It's like, 'Well, thanks. I could have told you that. We all know that.' Coach Reid's so great at 'why.' Why did you throw that too high. And talking to you about that: 'Hey, you're standing up too tall and your front shoulder went up.' He does such a great job of doing that. Right there on the spot, he sees it."

Smith said he's exchanged a few text messages with Harbaugh and Kaepernick this season, and he said he looked forward to seeing former teammates like Frank Gore and Adam Snyder, who were part of Smith's 2005 draft class.

One of his closest friends on the team, left tackle Joe Staley, may not make the trip, Harbaugh said, because he is recovering from an injury.

Smith was in for only one series in the Chiefs' exhibition opener � it ended with a touchdown � and he said the plan is to play longer against San Francisco. He also noted it was awkward, and even a tad intimidating, to game-plan for the 49ers' defense.

"I had never watched film on them and had to ask, 'How do we beat them? Where are their weak points?'" he said. "They're sound and play good football. It'll be a great test for us."

That, or they just really crave a high draft pick so the Chiefs finally draft a high QB prospect.

Wouldn't you rather a board where grown ups can talk about the players, coaches, games, opponents, etc. without everything being about "yer and idiot!" and "die in a flaming aids tree!"

All that crap just gets in the way of why decent people are here, I would think.

If you all really love this juvenile shit talking, then hey.. I guess go for it. It IS your house after all. If you pride yourself on being a jackass and think that's what the cool kids do.. that's your call.

I'd just start asking yourself two questions. (1) would my mother be proud of my forum interaction? and (2) shouldn't I be ashamed of myself for not growing the **** up like most adults?

This is a grown up forum and your not grown up enough to be here if you have to worry about what mommy thinks of this place.

First, it is YOU ARE or YOU'RE.

Second, you are never too old to ask yourself if what you are doing would be respected by your mother.

Your and idiot.

The mental fortitude is the one thing about Smith that gives me hope that he ascends to a higher level of play than he has ever has.

He's suffered a mental beat down through the early years, and just kept getting back up for more.

He lacks confidence in his ability to attack deep zones.
He doesn't need a QB guru to get past that.
He just needs someone that believes in him to push.

Andy Reid might be that guy.

I'd rather have a board where a person who follows two teams realizes the hilarity of talking trash about what type of fan someone who follows just one team and lives and dies with that team is.

Talk about the players, coaches, etc. is fine as long as all thoughts are positive, right? If you express doubts about anything at all, you're a bad fan, right? Especially if those doubts are about Alex Smith. No matter if the doubts are expressed and explained based on historical performance.

Decent people ... like you, right? I've got news for you: You're not a decent member of this community.

I am sorry your feelings have been so badly hurt. I sent you a present to make up for it. (It's a gallon of antifreeze. Please chug it.)

You know the moment I grew up (as a sports fan)? When I picked one team to follow in each sport and stuck with it. Maybe you should try it. It feels pretty good.

Oh, also, your questions are hilarious.

wow

If you don’t like it here there’s always the NEPA Chiefs board.
Be prepared though, they’re pretty “hard core” over there.

Well, I personally don't think anyone is a bad fan for having doubts, concerns or even negative thoughts about players, coaches, front office etc...

However, I think you're a bad fan if you are wishing serious, careeer ending injury on the only QB we have. I think you're a bad fan, or not a fan at all, if you wish career ending injury on any of our players. Some of the posts In this paticular thread are absolutely ****ing disgusting and those wishing a career ending injury on any member of this team, need to find another team to root for.

The Jets is a good choice, since they love to choke on the chocolate peni....

please god, have this deuche Inmem58 lose a few fingers tomorrow night in some accident, this taking away his ability to type.

THANK YOU for the laugh.

That is the most hilarious and stupid thing I've ever read here.

3 seasons over 5000 yards passing.

2 seasons over 40 TDs passing.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1129...ees_b2_576.jpg

Meanwhile, Alex's claim to fame is most passing attempts without an interception.

Drew Brees and Alex Smith are polar opposites. Your post was easily the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this forum. Evah!

Karma will handle business...

only if you're a complete tool

Yeah, I can only think of two neg reps I've ever sent. And they were both in this thread.

I don't even wish for players on other teams to get hurt much less players on my favorite team. Twisted fans.

There's a difference between truly wishing that on somebody and responding to a Choice A or Choice B question, though. (or toning down a Choice A or Choice B question, which is what I did in this thread).

As for Alex Smith being "the only QB we have"... well, that may be the case, but it doesn't have any effect on me. They're not doing anything substantial with him at QB this year or next, in my opinion, so what does it matter? 8-10 wins with no playoff success do nothing more for me than 2 wins.

Especially career ending injuries. I mean, I may have wished Tom Brady a high ankle sprain to take him out for a month or something, but never anything serious, ever. And Certainly not this team, never ever.

Karma is a myth.

That said the posts are stupid, to be sure, but they are just stupid words typed by dumbasses.

Get a grip.

Idaho ... losing for a draft pick before the season even starts.


LMAO

Yeah all we need is the first pick in the draft so we can get our franchise QB.

Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that 8 wins this year with Alex Smith at the helm registers no more with me than 2 wins (unless something drastic and unlikely happens, like him turning into an elite QB).

You are apparently incapable of understanding something simple about this. For me, I have picked my one and only team. 49ers come FIRST. There are tons of people that have other, secondarily preferred teams though... and there is nothing wrong with that.

Wrong again. You are going to extremes to make a point that easily fails. I never have a problem with some doubts. I have a problem with myopic people that are determined to believe in an outcome that has yet to occur.

Given that much of this community is based in immaturity and shame, then I consider it an accomplishment to not be regarded as decent here.

Yeah, I don't see the excitement to win 8 games or even a playoff birth just to lose that game embarrassingly on National TV.

Would my mother be proud of this locker room?

Would my mother be proud of this army barracks?

Would my mother be proud of this strip club?

C'mon, get real. Guys are guys. This place is over the top to me, but get real.

You are like the Frank Burns of Chiefs Planet. You got Hawkeye and Trapper John, and there is Major Burns in the corner reading his bible, casting damnation on everybody for being sinners. Get real dude.

You know you are coming here dissing our forum. Why don't you just **** off and get the **** out. No one wants to hear your shit. No one is asking you to stay.

A cowardly and childish way of thinking. It's like a little kid standing in the corner of a birthday party and pouting.

"what's wrong little Jimmy?"

"they said I can't eat Suzie's cake all by myself, those jerks!"

"well, wouldn't you enjoy a piece?"

"no!!! I must have it all right now, or I don't wants none!"

:shake:


Losing 14 of 16 games is brutal, I know... makes for a truly awful year. Winning half of them instead sure does feel a lot better. Makes a team far more respectable, and would continue to give the players and most fans real hope that they are improving for the following season.

Actually, no.

2011 was ****ing brutal. Every win was garbage.

When you're piling up wins against guys like Curtis Painter and getting your dick knocked in the dirt against real teams, it's a pathetic year. Especially when you blow a playoff berth by losing to the ****ing Raiders and Carson Palmer.

Going 8-8 is like winning the reerun olympics.

... and this bolded part above is all I am really saying. I am not expecting a damn church here.

If we had a rookie quarterback to build a team around and have continued growth with I would agree with you. However we do not have that in Alex Smith. Let's not pretend Alex Smith is a rookie quarterback.

Well that is a terrible attitude.. just my opinion. You can like it, hate it, or secretly know I am right and still hate it. That's really your cross to bear.

Sure, there's nothing "WRONG" with that. It's not how I was raised, and I just can't take any enjoyment from "secondary" teams. But that's fine. I do think it precludes you from calling anyone who follows just one team and lives and dies with that team a "bad fan" though.

That's not the impression you gave early, when people were still laying out fact-based criticisms and doubts of Alex Smith.

that pretty much exactly want you're saying

first you say 'They're not doing anything substantial with him(Smith) at QB this year or next"

second you say '8 wins this year registers no more than 2 wins' to you


you are basically already in the 'this season is over let's just lose and get a better draft' mode. You might not say it, but it's there nevertheless. :shrug:


You're not alone, there is a huge 'Pouty Bitch' crowd at CPlanet nowadays, you fit right in.

Believe me it is more heart breaking to go to the playoffs and not win one for ****ing 20 years. That is something you will never understand as a 49er bundle of sticks fan.

Guess not. If I were the one caught ****ing a pie with tears in my eyes, I wouldn't want someone telling me shit and sticking around either. I'm forcing shame upon you for the greater good and all you can say is "boo hoo, GTFO!!!"

I'm guessing 27 wins over a 7 year period will do that to a fanbase

There are no good or reasonable excuses for this behavior. Man up.

I wish you luck. If Andy gets more out of Alex than Harbaugh did, it is good. It is good for you fans. It is good for playoff competition. It is good for football overall. You can't have too many stud QBs in football or too much high quality play.

Obviously I don't share your optimism. I really feel that Alex's caution and risk averse mentality is a glass ceiling he can't rise above. I continue to say, if he had Aaron Rodgers's attacking mentality, he could be at or near top 10 QB level. But he doesn't. At the end of the day, he is too worried about making mistakes.

This is good 90% of the time, but there are always a few times in every losing game where a QB needs to take an appropriate risk to seek an appropriate reward. So far, we haven't seen Alex do that. You can't throw a 6 yard pass on 3rd and 19 and hope your receiver goes for 14 YAC. But that is the kind of caution we've seen from Alex over and over.

If Andy can perform some kind of Vulcan mind meld or Jedi mind trick to cure Alex of that, then you have yourself a gem. As long as Alex is risk averse, then he is never going to rise above mid-tier. He is a solid, competent QB who can guide a strong team through the playoffs to win a super bowl. If Dorsey drafts a power house around Alex, Alex can guide them to a super bowl win.

But as long as Alex is risk averse, he will never be more than a mid-tier QB.

But I wish you well. If Alex becomes a stud QB, it is good for the state of football overall, so good luck with that.

Are you 12? Or just a moron?

Forcing shame? Really?

WTF you talking bout ROFL

Well then, you have it wrong. I have stated many times the aforementioned when people misunderstood or used extremes to defend their predictions of doom.

There are no good or reasonable excuses for you to come here and tell us how to be a fan and tell us how to act on this forum.

Well that was pretty rude for you, O.city. From what I read of you, none of this applies to you. I am much older than 12 and not a moron. (forum opinions vary on that, of course)

If I were a bitter fan and chicken little and someone called me on it, yeah.. that should induce some level of shame over thinking that way.

And the key point is "for you". So get off your high horse and quit lecturing them about it. If it is over the top for you, you have 2 choices. Shut up or leave. It is your problem, not theirs.

That is why they are giving you grief. You are lecturing them on something they have no problem with. Keep it up and you are going to get blasted.

I've seen more than enough mediocre seasons with no shot at winning anything substantial.

Winning 8 games this year does nothing for me. Unless, like I said, Alex Smith morphs into an elite QB while they do it. I don't BELIEVE that will happen and need to see it before I will believe it, but if it did, I would be excited (no matter the win total).

:clap: Yep good point Mav!!

My reasoning (though I don't expect much in results here) is that I am trying to help change some of the crybaby mentality here. If you can't handle what I am saying, then feel free to ignore me, and proceed with the foulness.

I hope for better, but at least there is some entertainment and fascination with the crybabies.

Uh.....yeah. If Harbaugh is such a horrible game day coach, how did he get that team to the SB? :spock:

Geno with 4 picks, a hurt foot, and getting slammed like a bitch by his coach. Just saying....

Don't mistake a small glimmer of hope for optimism, Kaepernick.

I don't expect Alex Smith to raise his level of play, but that one small shard of hope is all that there is to cling to.

I am not going to childishly hope for injury.

Yeah but we could of had a ten to 15 year window.

You are delusional. You sure the **** are not going to change me or anyone else here who is a passionate Chiefs fan like me. You are truly wasting your time if you think you can change this place or change how people feel about their team. I can be a homer if I wanted to and act like things are unicorn and rainbows but I choose to be the way I am because I demand better from the team I love and root for.

I doubt Alex will be running the ball, we have Albert and Fisher..Come get some.

It is what it is, Smiff is our QB and until he proves he is similar to Cassel in teh suck category, I'm 100% behind him.

No problem. Carry on then. I'll hop off the soap box now. :D

Go to Warpaint Illustrated or some other garbage Chiefs forum that tightly mods their members. People treat each other really well over there. And the football conversation sucks dick.

Your choice to be a CP member CC get a clue

FORCING SHAME on CP for the greater good???

Dude! you ARE Frank Burns!!!

They should change your user name from Mac-NinersChiefs to Maj-BurnsChiefs.

Next you will be praying for their souls.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-w...IGk/s320/4.jpg

... and to the person who sent me this with + rep?

That's just making this place even worse... but I do understand.

( don't send me + rep anymore though.. I like the big red line, lol )

I support him too 100% as long as it leads us to playoff victories. Doesn't make me any more happy that he is who we got. I'm not happy at all who we got for quarterback. I support him to win games in the playoffs if we can't accomplish that then Alex Smith has been yet another wasted retread quarterback.

Go **** your family with AIDS

Are you a girl? No, seriously. Are you?

kthanxbye!

Did you say anything about Geno Smith when he was performing well in camp, or just wait until the first time he had a bad day (on a sprained ankle - that he refused to use as an excuse and was praised for not using as an excuse).

Just curious.

Sure.. why not? Let's just go with that, as if it matters. :D

I really want us to win some games and not suck badly, If Smith goes down we have Daniel and Stanzi who just may be Matt Cassel all over again. I really despised the Paul Hackett swing pass offense but it is what it is...I'll give them a chance before throwing them under the bus. I hope Andy Reid is THAT good.

They never would have come back from the deep hole vs. Falcons if Harbaugh was such a bad game day coach. Or almost come back in the super bowl. Harbaugh seems to be pretty good at half-time adjustments.

"Waaaaaahhhh you guys are offensive and insulting!!! My vagina hurts! Waaahhh!"

"Be a man!"

Yeah, I'm pretty sure this douche is a woman

He does bring some good football observations. The problem is that those are mixed in with his Alex Smith hating agenda. He would rather see this team fail just to be right about Smith.

And yeah, after the whole Cassel disaster I can somewhat understand that point of view, I guess. I wasn't exactly excited about the trade for Smith. But I want to give this regime a chance. This is not the same organization as it was with Pioli. Give Smith a chance. If it doesn't work out we move on. And if he's good enough to get the team to the playoffs this year and/or next, at least that gives them experience in the playoffs. Maybe then he proves to be not good enough to get over the hump and they go find a better QB. Or maybe he finally does get over that hump.

OK, got ya. Thanks for clarifying.

Alex is going to turn the team mentality around. The best you can hope for is that your GM seeks and finds his elite QB prospect somewhere down the line. I realize there is no precedent for that with this franchise, so it is what it is.

Actually I hoped the chiefs would draft him until all his antics before the draft which dropped his stock. I don't care what Geno Pizza does now really-**** the Jets- just posted that for discussion to counter the constant Geno fan club on here. He is Not a Chief so people need to let it go-lol

I was a bit surprised that Ryan put his balls in a waffle iron like that over a "Practice". It was not even a game situation and it gets blown up. Clearly Ryan is postioning to start Dirty Sanchez and does not want to here a bunch of backlash from it.