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BigMeatballDave 08-17-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9893614)
Okay, so when we're like 1-4 are we still going with this excuse or do we draw the line somewhere?

Because of the new system, they will very likely start slow.

Do you expect them to start 5-0?

In58men 08-17-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9893620)
Because of the new system, they will very likely start slow.

Do you expect them to start 5-0?


I expect competition and I didn't see that one bit.

jspchief 08-17-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9893614)
Okay, so when we're like 1-4 are we still going with this excuse or do we draw the line somewhere?

It's a 2-14 team. They aren't going to win the Superbowl this year. It's the first year of a new regime, and I'm going to give them a long leash regardless of the decisions they make that I don't agree with.

Look, my opinions on the aquisition of Smith are well documented. That being said, I'm not going to give up on the season in week 2 of the preseason. I don't wait 8 months to watch NFL football, only to declare the season a failure at the first glimpse of struggle.

You're being a huge vagina about this team all to prolong your pouting over Alex Smith. If you've already made up your mind on the 2013 Chiefs, then stop ****ing watching them and stop wiping your vaginal leakage all over this message board.

In58men 08-17-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9893625)
It's a 2-14 team. They aren't going to win the Superbowl this year. It's the first year of a new regime, and I'm going to give them a long leash regardless of the decisions they make that I don't agree with.

Look, my opinions on the aquisition of Smith are well documented. That being said, I'm not going to give up on the season in week 2 of the preseason. I don't wait 8 months to watch NFL football, only to declare the season a failure at the first glimpse of struggle.

You're being a huge vagina about this team all to prolong your pouting over Alex Smith. If you've already made up your mind on the 2013 Chiefs, then stop ****ing watching them and stop wiping your vaginal leakage all over this message board.

Enjoy your same mediocre Chiefs and hand-me-down quarterbacks.

Raiderhater 08-17-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9893625)
It's a 2-14 team. They aren't going to win the Superbowl this year. It's the first year of a new regime, and I'm going to give them a long leash regardless of the decisions they make that I don't agree with.

Look, my opinions on the aquisition of Smith are well documented. That being said, I'm not going to give up on the season in week 2 of the preseason. I don't wait 8 months to watch NFL football, only to declare the season a failure at the first glimpse of struggle.

You're being a huge vagina about this team all to prolong your pouting over Alex Smith. If you've already made up your mind on the 2013 Chiefs, then stop ****ing watching them and stop wiping your vaginal leakage all over this message board.


Spot on.

King_Chief_Fan 08-17-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9893601)
All we're doing is throwing check downs out of different formations lol. Not sure what in missing here. Sure we take snaps out of the WC and pistol now, but all the passes look the same. I don't see a big difference.

wide receivers don't get open, the line can't block....

Raiderhater 08-17-2013 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9893628)
Enjoy your same mediocre Chiefs and hand-me-down quarterbacks.

There is a time to be rebels and there is a time to show some support. We rebelled last season demanding change. We got most of the change we demanded. In light of that, I think it is only appropriate to give the team a chance to see what they can accomplish.

jspchief 08-17-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9893628)
Enjoy your same mediocre Chiefs and hand-me-down quarterbacks.

Versus enjoying nothing?

How is crying like a bitch 12 months out the year a better option, and what do you think its going to accomplish?

I want the Chiefs to be great as much as anyone. I just don't see the point in declaring it all a massive failure in the second preseason week of a regime.

BlackHelicopters 08-17-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9893614)
Okay, so when we're like 1-4 are we still going with this excuse or do we draw the line somewhere?

We will wait until the season is over and we are 3-13.

Hoover 08-17-2013 09:11 AM

My thoughts on the game.

1. Perhaps the most significant addition to the Chiefs roster of coaches is Toub. I love the fact that I enjoy watching out special teams again.
2. The offensive line sucked last night. Lots of pressure up the middle. I'm not freaking out, but it was a little disturbing.
3. Frankly its hard for me to be upset at Alex Smith because he had people in his face all night. That said, Baldwin and some other receivers dropped some good passes. That is that's not acceptable, not Smiths play.
4. Where is D-Bowe? Thought it was interesting commentary on his route running by Green last night. Said he needed to flatten out his route when the QB is in trouble. So true.
5. I'm not a fan of dink and dunk, but at least Smith can move the chains by making quick decisions if his WRs are not open. Smith's timing on the check down is 100 times faster that MC.
6. I think Sutton is going to be a good DC. I like the way this defense plays.
7. How funny is it that Reid brings a couple guys with him in Demps and Jordan and they are more productive than anyone Pioli brought in from the pats.
8. I'm glad Davis got a lot of reps last night, but I think Draughs is a better runner. Davis is probably better right now in the passing game.
9. Chase Daniel had a much better game last night.
10. I think Fasano, Smith, and DeVito are all going to pan out.

Halfcan 08-17-2013 09:22 AM

My observations before I fell asleep on the coach in the 4th quarter-lol

Baldwin- perfect ball, hit him in the chest and he drops it. Can't get separation and looks slow. Not sure how he can make this team- terrible camp and still can't catch. Time to move on.

T Jack- I might be wrong but it was him that let Gore around the end for the huge run play to start the game. He gets pushed around and then hits the Qb for a 15 yard penalty? Time to move on.

Agnew- Nice put block- but still can't cover anyone. Cya

O-line... wow that was pitiful, Albert looked terrible- several plays let guys run right by him. Every single Blitz worked for the 9ers.

Robinson- would have been burned on a TD in the 1st but SuperKape way over threw it. Then hurts his shoulder celebrating? Cya

Defense Grade- C gave up way to many yards. Poe dominated so did Berry. gave up way to many rushing yards even minus the big play. Couldn't contain the QB on 3rd downs.

Offense- F Too many dropped passes, terrible blocking, didn't open up holes in the run game. It is sad when it looks like the 9ers just televised the Blue Print to shut this team down- and it is only preseason. Chase still getting passes knocked down and shows no leadership. Bray seems to have the tools- time will tell.

Special Teams- A plus. Big returns for 2 weeks in a row. Great blocking. Kicking game looks great. Dustin might get to break his punting record if the O is going to play like this.

Coaching- D. Offense was predictable. I will Give Andy a pass on the first 4 down in our side of the field- that was gutsy and it worked. The second time in the 4th cost us the game. 9ers were totally shutting us down and had all the momentum in the game- Nobody thought it would work and running another draw type flip run/ busted no blocking play was doomed. The Chiefs did not make any adjustments in the second half and continued to get pushed around.

Announcers- I like Green but his Rose Colored Glasses need to come off a bit. To say it was a GREAT crowd just as the cameras panned a half empty stadium was pretty funny. Then Neil Jones in the parking lot talking about Awesome food and shows a nearly half empty plate with some chewed up rib bones made me laugh. They pimped Alex several times saying his stat line was Not as bad as it looks because of the dropped passed-LOL Yes Trent it was that bad.

Red Dawg 08-17-2013 09:30 AM

I think Dorsey has done what he could do to fix the roster this season. Staff is fixed and our DB depth is better. We lack at WR badly. Bowe is it and then there is nothing on the outside to rely on. Maybe Avery can pull a miracle and be better than advertised.
Smith is no super star but it will be nice not to have a bunch of int's and fumbles losing games.

Ace Gunner 08-17-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9893679)
My observations before I fell asleep on the coach in the 4th quarter-lol

Baldwin- perfect ball, hit him in the chest and he drops it. Can't get separation and looks slow. Not sure how he can make this team- terrible camp and still can't catch. Time to move on.

T Jack- I might be wrong but it was him that let Gore around the end for the huge run play to start the game. He gets pushed around and then hits the Qb for a 15 yard penalty? Time to move on.

Agnew- Nice put block- but still can't cover anyone. Cya

O-line... wow that was pitiful, Albert looked terrible- several plays let guys run right by him. Every single Blitz worked for the 9ers.

Robinson- would have been burned on a TD in the 1st but SuperKape way over threw it. Then hurts his shoulder celebrating? Cya

Defense Grade- C gave up way to many yards. Poe dominated so did Berry. gave up way to many rushing yards even minus the big play. Couldn't contain the QB on 3rd downs.

Offense- F Too many dropped passes, terrible blocking, didn't open up holes in the run game. It is sad when it looks like the 9ers just televised the Blue Print to shut this team down- and it is only preseason. Chase still getting passes knocked down and shows no leadership. Bray seems to have the tools- time will tell.

Special Teams- A plus. Big returns for 2 weeks in a row. Great blocking. Kicking game looks great. Dustin might get to break his punting record if the O is going to play like this.

Coaching- D. Offense was predictable. I will Give Andy a pass on the first 4 down in our side of the field- that was gutsy and it worked. The second time in the 4th cost us the game. 9ers were totally shutting us down and had all the momentum in the game- Nobody thought it would work and running another draw type flip run/ busted no blocking play was doomed. The Chiefs did not make any adjustments in the second half and continued to get pushed around.

Announcers- I like Green but his Rose Colored Glasses need to come off a bit. To say it was a GREAT crowd just as the cameras panned a half empty stadium was pretty funny. Then Neil Jones in the parking lot talking about Awesome food and shows a nearly half empty plate with some chewed up rib bones made me laugh. They pimped Alex several times saying his stat line was Not as bad as it looks because of the dropped passed-LOL Yes Trent it was that bad.


Baldwin needed to catch that, for sure, but I wouldn't give up on him any more than giving up on Bowe when he dropped the easy ones.

Tyson J plays LDE, which is the side Gore took when the run play began. So, TJ actually stuffed the play and the rest of the team came in there as support on the pile. Gore peeled off the play and that is when DJ should have been waiting, but he was out of position and Gore went flying past.

With the one gap scheme, DJ needs to stay in position or this team is going to give up a ton of big plays on the ground this year.

It is so hard to let the play develop and wait for it to come to you before you go make the tackle -- it seems impossible for DJ. All that speed and athleticism is wasted when he doesn't play smart ball.

If he had simply stayed in position, away from the pile and waited for the runner, he could have tackled Gore for lil to no gain. That's what good backers do.

Albert was disappointing, to say the least. He doesn't know this offense, obviously. Holding out was a bad idea.

jspchief 08-17-2013 09:54 AM

Agree DJ is the goat on the big Gore run. He stays home and that's a tfl instead of a big gain.

BigMeatballDave 08-17-2013 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9893730)
Baldwin needed to catch that, for sure, but I wouldn't give up on him any more than giving up on Bowe when he dropped the easy ones.

ROFL Okay

You are so delusional when it comes to Bowe.

This is Baldwin's THIRD season.

Red Beans 08-17-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9893639)
There is a time to be rebels and there is a time to show some support. We rebelled last season demanding change. We got most of the change we demanded. In light of that, I think it is only appropriate to give the team a chance to see what they can accomplish.

Well said.

aturnis 08-17-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 9893324)
Something tells me people are gonna be owning up A LOT to us within a few months. Not like I care, but it's still amazing how people fall for the same schtick every year.

Look in the mirror bro. You've been taking for the Chiefs sorry schtick for 20yrs.

BlackHelicopters 08-17-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9893073)
Could have put a #7 jersey on Smith and fooled me.

Our awesome o-line was getting worked by the 9ers 2nd team.

We have no wide receivers.

The starting defense is a lot more fun to watch. Lots more pressure being applied to the QB.

The 9ers had the better Daniels...

Bray was able to accomplish as much as the previous 2 QBs in the 2 minute drill...not much. Give the kid a chance to get into rhythm next time....

5-11.


3-13

Pablo 08-17-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9893311)
Chaze Mcdaniels got JACKED UP! LOL - I'm just here watching it 'delayed'

I did rewind it a couple of times for the lulz. Dude got ****ing smashed.

Chris Meck 08-17-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9893679)
My observations before I fell asleep on the coach in the 4th quarter-lol

Baldwin- perfect ball, hit him in the chest and he drops it. Can't get separation and looks slow. Not sure how he can make this team- terrible camp and still can't catch. Time to move on.

I agree. He just doesn't have it.

T Jack- I might be wrong but it was him that let Gore around the end for the huge run play to start the game. He gets pushed around and then hits the Qb for a 15 yard penalty? Time to move on.

I believe T Jack plays the left side, so that was Devito's mistake in containment. That roughing penalty was bullshit. T Jack, while not ever being able to live up to a #3 overall, has looked pretty solid and is actually getting some push in the pass rush. He's been a solid run defender for awhile.


Agnew- Nice put block- but still can't cover anyone. Cya

I saw good and bad from him. He did get burned some, but also made some nice plays. You can't just jettison every young player that makes some mistakes.

O-line... wow that was pitiful, Albert looked terrible- several plays let guys run right by him. Every single Blitz worked for the 9ers.

Agree. They do not appear to be communicating well.

Robinson- would have been burned on a TD in the 1st but SuperKape way over threw it. Then hurts his shoulder celebrating? Cya

He hurt his shoulder when he landed on it. Kap overthrew it due to the pressure. Robinson looks like a solid nickel corner pickup so far. Methinks you overreact.


Defense Grade- C gave up way to many yards. Poe dominated so did Berry. gave up way to many rushing yards even minus the big play. Couldn't contain the QB on 3rd downs.

I would agree. I think individuals are getting a little TOO aggressive and not staying within what is already a very aggressive system. It's early, it's preseason, and guys are excited. I think it's entirely fixable. Agree on Poe, I think the lightbulb has gone on for him. Berry looks great in this scheme(s). Also thought Bailey flashed at times, which is good news. I disagree with you on TJack, and I thought N. Johnson, Abdullah, and Sean Smith all played well. Smith looks like a great addition. He mugs guys at the line.

Offense- F Too many dropped passes, terrible blocking, didn't open up holes in the run game. It is sad when it looks like the 9ers just televised the Blue Print to shut this team down- and it is only preseason. Chase still getting passes knocked down and shows no leadership. Bray seems to have the tools- time will tell.
Agreed. The dropped passes are inexcusable. I'll chalk it up to jitters for now, but it's got to stop. Daniel does look lame. Bray looked pretty confused, though. The blueprint to beating all out blitzes will be Charles in the flat and he didn't play, so I'm not panicking.

Special Teams- A plus. Big returns for 2 weeks in a row. Great blocking. Kicking game looks great. Dustin might get to break his punting record if the O is going to play like this.

Toub looks like a great hire.

Coaching- D. Offense was predictable. I will Give Andy a pass on the first 4 down in our side of the field- that was gutsy and it worked. The second time in the 4th cost us the game. 9ers were totally shutting us down and had all the momentum in the game- Nobody thought it would work and running another draw type flip run/ busted no blocking play was doomed. The Chiefs did not make any adjustments in the second half and continued to get pushed around.

It IS preseason. They're not going to get too far into the playbook.


Announcers- I like Green but his Rose Colored Glasses need to come off a bit. To say it was a GREAT crowd just as the cameras panned a half empty stadium was pretty funny. Then Neil Jones in the parking lot talking about Awesome food and shows a nearly half empty plate with some chewed up rib bones made me laugh. They pimped Alex several times saying his stat line was Not as bad as it looks because of the dropped passed-LOL Yes Trent it was that bad.

Well, minus the 3 drops, he'd have a line more like 10-16 for 100 or so yards. That's not horrible, to be fair. Still, not a good performance.

aturnis 08-17-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9893459)
I was nice to Fat Elvis WAY too long - horribly poster.

This

Hammock Parties 08-17-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9893758)
Well, minus the 3 drops, he'd have a line more like 10-16 for 100 or so yards. That's not horrible, to be fair.

And I bet we still wouldn't have scored a TD.

And homers would have pointed to that decidedly "average, yet not shitty" stat line to defend Alex.

So thank god for those drops.

aturnis 08-17-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9893475)
You are truly reeruned.

Or accurate...

Chris Meck 08-17-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9893730)
Baldwin needed to catch that, for sure, but I wouldn't give up on him any more than giving up on Bowe when he dropped the easy ones.

Tyson J plays LDE, which is the side Gore took when the run play began. So, TJ actually stuffed the play and the rest of the team came in there as support on the pile. Gore peeled off the play and that is when DJ should have been waiting, but he was out of position and Gore went flying past.

With the one gap scheme, DJ needs to stay in position or this team is going to give up a ton of big plays on the ground this year.

It is so hard to let the play develop and wait for it to come to you before you go make the tackle -- it seems impossible for DJ. All that speed and athleticism is wasted when he doesn't play smart ball.

If he had simply stayed in position, away from the pile and waited for the runner, he could have tackled Gore for lil to no gain. That's what good backers do.

Albert was disappointing, to say the least. He doesn't know this offense, obviously. Holding out was a bad idea.

good football post. I agree with everything except Baldwin. The difference with him and Bowe is that by year 3, Bowe had shown something to go along with the bad. Baldwin's done nothing positive at all. He looks slow, for being big, he can't fight off press coverage, and he doesn't catch anything. He's terrible.

Hammock Parties 08-17-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9893782)
The difference with him and Bowe is that by year 3, Bowe had shown something to go along with the bad. B

Let's get real: Bowe showed something by his first GAME.

BigMeatballDave 08-17-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9893768)
Or accurate...

Funny how people will align themselves with dipshits because they share the same agenda...

Mother****erJones 08-17-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9893766)
And I bet we still wouldn't have scored a TD.

And homers would have pointed to that decidedly "average, yet not shitty" stat line to defend Alex.

So thank god for those drops.

Maybe we wouldn't of scored a TD but at least the offense would maybe have been in rhythm. You're all forgetting how nasty the 49ers front 7 is

Hammock Parties 08-17-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9893793)
You're all forgetting how nasty the 49ers front 7 is

They could have been a lot nicer to Alex.

Mother****erJones 08-17-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9893796)
They could have been a lot nicer to Alex.

Ya they could have :)

Mother****erJones 08-17-2013 10:24 AM

Next week is another good test.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-17-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9893475)
You are truly reeruned.

And yet I called your bullshit perfectly.

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9893538)
Sometimes, the Preseason excuse is a valid one.

Sometimes, I scratch my balls.

TEX 08-17-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9893782)
good football post. I agree with everything except Baldwin. The difference with him and Bowe is that by year 3, Bowe had shown something to go along with the bad. Baldwin's done nothing positive at all. He looks slow, for being big, he can't fight off press coverage, and he doesn't catch anything. He's terrible.

Totally agree. The sooner he's gone, the better. It wont take much for an upgrade. He is terrible. Bowe had shown SO much more after year 1, nevermind 3. Shoot, Sly Mo showed way more after year 1 as well. In fact, I can't think of any high drafted KC WR who showed less than Baldwin.

Molitoth 08-17-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9893614)
Okay, so when we're like 1-4 are we still going with this excuse or do we draw the line somewhere?


This fanbase will give every excuse until they have run dry. Unfortunately the last regime lasted 4 years.

Halfcan 08-17-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9893730)
Baldwin needed to catch that, for sure, but I wouldn't give up on him any more than giving up on Bowe when he dropped the easy ones.

Tyson J plays LDE, which is the side Gore took when the run play began. So, TJ actually stuffed the play and the rest of the team came in there as support on the pile. Gore peeled off the play and that is when DJ should have been waiting, but he was out of position and Gore went flying past. With the one gap scheme, DJ needs to stay in position or this team is going to give up a ton of big plays on the ground this year.

It is so hard to let the play develop and wait for it to come to you before you go make the tackle -- it seems impossible for DJ. All that speed and athleticism is wasted when he doesn't play smart ball.

If he had simply stayed in position, away from the pile and waited for the runner, he could have tackled Gore for lil to no gain. That's what good backers do.

Albert was disappointing, to say the least. He doesn't know this offense, obviously. Holding out was a bad idea.

I thought I was confusing T Jack on that play- the TV coverage was terrible and it was hard to see who was doing what.

Yep you are right about Albert- he looked very lost- blocking the same guy while another defender ran right by him-lol

I hope they watch a LOT of tape this weekend and get this thing fixed- what a Train Wreck!

O.city 08-17-2013 12:54 PM

The cut back was more on tamba not keeping containment, more than DJ.

In58men 08-17-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9893877)
This fanbase will give every excuse until they have run dry. Unfortunately the last regime lasted 4 years.

Yep, all of our impact players will be old and we'll have to start replacing them at that point.


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