Used to be a great player. If he'd have landed somewhere where they could have used him in a Darren Sprolles type role, He could have done some great things.

I don't know why that even matters. I don't think anyone believes we are spending too much. This does not feel like a team loaded with overpriced veterans. If anything, our cap number is high because we had cap space, so we chose to absorb some big contracts in 2013.

spending team =/= cap number.

and it means a lot cause if you are shelling out the cash, you better be putting a good ****ing product on the field.

you want a team spending over 120 million to yield a losing record? Yea that's a great investment of players and coaches. Bottomline is when you spend a lot you should be competing with good teams and definitely should be pounding the piss out of teams like Jax.

I don't think anyone has illusions that we are spending money to be a super bowl contender right away. We spent money, but we are focused on building a good young foundation and we aren't cap strapping future contracts.

Many of those contracts are front loaded and given how many guys we cut, a good chunk of that money is dead money for piolis players. If it felt like we were blindly and desperately throwing money at players, I'd feel differently.

Curious to see how he does from here on out. I rewatched the first half, and holy shot were we good at closing off all the gaps and blocks and shedding. When you have defensive linemen consistently getting clean shots in a closed gap, not much the runner can do.

I imagine he can't bowl people over like he used to. But yesterday's game, it's hard to imagine many rbs succeeding. I ink some of that has to do with our defense, but even more has to do with how bad gabbert was.

Was brought up in another thread, so I'll bring it up here. I think Fisher played pretty well, and that pick is done so I'm moved on.

But look how good this DL played under Sutton. Now imagine lining up Sheldon Richardson along side Poe and Devito/Jackson.

Or Catapano, Sheldon, and Poe in subsets? Or Bailey in sub sets?

Oh well.

have you not been paying attention to how many contracts where restructured into bonus money and just paid in front as a lump sum?

Tyson Jackson, Flowers, Succup, then all the guys we cut that we still have to pay money, plus the current guys on the cap, plus all the other bonuses

probably close to 140-150 million in spending

Branden Albert is on a cap heavy one year deal that drops either entirely in 2014 or gets signed into a far more reasonable cap figure. I think we'll over 11M is being paid out in dead money to the roster gutting, namely Winston, cassel, and breaston who alone account for 10m plus. Jackson took a pay cut and is still overpaid. His contract drops dramatically next year even if we keep him.

So I don't get what point you're trying to make. This team spent a shitload of money to gut the roster of dead weight. That means we pay a lot today to gie us long term roster flexibility and to cut out the crap. I don't know why doing that obligates us to win more games today. Our year 1 cap space means nothing and in no way obligates our team to be winning championships in year 1.

Funny that Hali caught that INT I wasn't expecting him to catch it although they practiced their dlineman catching passes.

We should get bailey back this week if he's ready after the passing of his father

Glenn ****ing Dorsey's absence makes this defense a lot better.

Between Bailey and catapano, I am surprisingly stoked about our d line depth. The guy is inconsistent, but flashed some really serious potential this preseason. He should improve that consistency by getting more quality reps.

Anyone know how he did yesterday for the 49ers? Box score says 1 tackle

Credit where it's due: pioli made a couple of picks that were pure jackpots.

He actually played pretty well. But then, the Packers oline is pretty bad.

I will never truly hate Jon Baldwin, because the trade down for him landed us the pick that got Houston.

Well a lot of good points made pro & con.

For me i see this D will holding a lot of opponents to 20 pts or less. So if we can get to 21 points we going to win a lot games. Yes there will be a couple of games they will give up 30+( Redskins, Texans, Broncos 2X), but far more under 20. So 8-8 should be a lock. If the O gets a little more consistent 10-6, 11-5 is not unrealistic.

I only noticed one missed tackle by Lewis which is a big improvement imo. I'll have to watch again tonight.

Houston said he is going after the sack record of 22 in an interview after the game. He is 19 away with 15 to play. Big dream but he gets 22 and Chiefs are in post season

Catapano is WAY underrated! He would have been a 3rd round pick if he had gotten a combine invite. The more playing time he gets the more plays he makes...go watch the film of Jacksonville game again and look at him closely. Kid is a BEAST! Watch how fast Catapano discards his guy and gets in on Chad Henne to end the game on 4th and goal...looked like he was shot out of a rocket! How many guys move like that at 280 lbs?? This defense has some SERIOUS players. Big test next week but I look forward to watching this D against high powered Dallas O.

I'm sorry I ever doubted Dorsey's scouting.

Teams that allowed fewer yards per carry in week 1 than the Chiefs:

Browns
Titans
Jets
Packers
Steelers
Falcons
Panthers
Broncos
Cardinals
Ravens
Bengals
Bears

Also of note: none of the above teams played the Jaguars.

The Falcons on that list is somewhat surprising.

This is the only thing you said with which I can agree.

This is going to be a BIG challenge!! This is a team that can really air it out....Romo has multiple weapons. That said if this D can hold the Cowboys in check then Denver wouldnt be all that unreasonable. BIG step up in competition this week.

Rewatcjing the game sober and not in a crowded bar, Lewis played very well. However, he employed very much in the box. Passing teams won't let him do that. He played well in the box, but he's too small to do that consistently. He needs to be exceptional to play center field especially since we play an often gambling defense. If we send a lot of pass rushers and can't get pressure, Lewis becomes a critical player for us.

Their oline is awful. And the Giants d line got pressure quite regularly on Romo. The Chiefs are better in the secondary and at linebacker than the Giants.

Dez Bryant is also nicked up.

Tony Romo is going to be in for a rough day. The Chiefs aren't going to turn the ball over 6 times.

Houston and Poe really looked like men amongst boys in that game.

I hate fools gold. Justin Blackmon didn't even play and I wonder if Chad Henne would have played better than Gabbert? I'm sure he would have because the Jaguars are dumb to stick with Gabbert.

Its not fools gold. what difference was Blackmon going to make when the Chiefs were always in the Jags backfield? The Chiefs front 7 is among the best in football right now. The Cowboys are about to find out what the jags did.

Bob Sutton was given a Ferrari to drive, and that most of the stuff the Chiefs did yesterday, was basic.

Wait until they start unloading the corner blitzes, and bringing Berry.

This is a really good defense.

I like our defense I know it's going be good one. I want to see it up against a real offense. Jaguars were a joke.

Uhhhh, yeah. They did bring Berry a few times.

Yup. And you see what happened to that joke.

That joke is no longer funny.

The cowboys will do better obviously. Hard to keep that much talent down. But the Chiefs wont give up much. And definitely wont give the Boys 6 turnovers.

I didn't see that whole game, but I saw a lot of the first half and noticed that the Giants were not really getting much pressure on Romo other than that QB sandwich on that one play. Not sure what game you were watching.

Didn't see it. Sorry. Thanks for the correction.

They got a lot of pressure on him in the second half.

Nothing in the first. But in the second they hit him a lot.

Agree but we play who we play. No control over it. I think if they had Lewis, Henne and Blackmon in it would've been closer. But they weren't so...

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