The pass rush should have you concerned with your weak neck qb.

What's kind of amazing is that we're ranked #9 in offensive scoring.

The only stat that matters is points allowed.


Points Per Game Leaders


RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
1 Kansas City 1225 306.3 755 188.8 470 117.5 41 10.3
2 Seattle 1201 300.3 765 191.3 436 109.0 47 11.8
3 Carolina 956 318.7 677 225.7 279 93.0 36 12.0
4 New Orleans 887 295.7 553 184.3 334 111.3 38 12.7
5 Indianapolis 1229 307.3 802 200.5 427 106.8 51 12.8
6 New England 1384 346.0 964 241.0 420 105.0 57 14.3
7 Tennessee 1253 313.3 857 214.3 396 99.0 69 17.3
8 Cleveland 1166 291.5 850 212.5 316 79.0 70 17.5
Tampa Bay 1329 332.3 952 238.0 377 94.3 70 17.5
10 Miami 1116 372.0 790 263.3 326 108.7 53 17.7
11 Cincinnati 1336 334.0 940 235.0 396 99.0 81 20.3
12 Dallas 1529 382.3 1218 304.5 311 77.8 85 21.3
13 Baltimore 1383 345.8 956 239.0 427 106.8 87 21.8
14 NY Jets 1132 283.0 815 203.8 317 79.3 88 22.0
15 Arizona 1364 341.0 1064 266.0 300 75.0 89 22.3
16 Denver 1561 390.3 1265 316.3 296 74.0 91 22.8
Oakland 1397 349.3 950 237.5 447 111.8 91 22.8
18 Buffalo 1597 399.3 1108 277.0 489 122.3 93 23.3
19 San Francisco 1199 299.8 762 190.5 437 109.3 95 23.8
20 Detroit 1515 378.8 1072 268.0 443 110.8 101 25.3
21 San Diego 1729 432.3 1247 311.8 482 120.5 102 25.5
22 Atlanta 1573 393.3 1204 301.0 369 92.3 104 26.0
23 Houston 1017 254.3 564 141.0 453 113.3 105 26.3
24 Pittsburgh 1287 321.8 796 199.0 491 122.8 110 27.5
25 Washington 1762 440.5 1193 298.3 569 142.3 112 28.0
26 Chicago 1536 384.0 1111 277.8 425 106.3 114 28.5
27 Green Bay 1213 404.3 933 311.0 280 93.3 88 29.3
28 St. Louis 1549 387.3 1015 253.8 534 133.5 121 30.3
29 Minnesota 1723 430.8 1304 326.0 419 104.8 123 30.8
30 Jacksonville 1548 387.0 891 222.8 657 164.3 129 32.3
31 Philadelphia 1787 446.8 1300 325.0 487 121.8 138 34.5
32 NY Giants 1537 384.3 1047 261.8 490 122.5 146 36.5

I think we split with Denver this year with each team winning at home. Should be a couple of great games...

Lol I had Seattle -20 against the Jags and won that one. It will be interesting to see if the Donks are more than 20 pt. favorites.

Could be the first game in Vegas history to have the point spread and the over/under be the same number. Somewhere around 42.

Well, the Broncos have allowed four rushing touchdowns this season. The Chiefs have only allowed one. But keep thinking your rush defense is superior if it makes you feel better.

My guess would be a split of the home games as well... I think that's a good rule of thumb every season, and especially this year.

Rose glasses.

How would you like to slice it?

Defenses for DEN and KC through 4 games:

Rushing Attempts Against / Yards Allowed / Rushing TDs Allowed / YPC Allowed

92 / 296 / 4 / 3.2
87 / 470 / 1 / 5.4

Congrats on owning 1 of those 4 stat lines. KC has seen 5 fewer rushes, while giving up 174 more yards...

Really? Lemme guess, you see 10 potential losses.

Absolutely.

And it's that same attitude that will cause your beloved Broncos to lose two of those 10.

Yeah, but Kansas City beat all three of the teams. After 3-4 games, the win loss isn't that important, especially if you beat all the teams. I'm quit confident the Eagles and Cowboys will end up being decent, at least one of them.

You can have your moral victories. I'll stick with a defense that allows fewer points.

Ok, so out of Denver's 12 remaining games ... you could easily forsesee 10 losses? Interesting. I'm all for the "any given Sunday" mantra, but this isn't just any given team.

They won't go undefeated, not by any stretch of the imagination... and I think losing 4 of the final 12 is very realistic... maybe even 5. They have some things to work out.

But... Jags, Skins, KC, TN, SD, @ Oak... there's 6 wins that I'm not ashamed to say should be locks. That would be 10 wins. The other 6 - they won't lose more than 1/2... so, 12-13 wins is very very realistic my friend.

NE and HOU are two very winnable games as well... The Broncos are far from perfect, but they're not about to fall apart.

Do whatever you like... if my team is up big and they let a TD fall, big deal.

If you're defense runs into a good offense... that YPC is going to sting a bit.

Were gonna kick your ass and Denver's ass.

I want to be relevant.

MHM don't count home vs SD an automatic win. We've owned your ass there lately. I think 3-2 last 5? Should be 4-1 except for the Hochuli game. We're 3-1 in our last 4 in Denver.

Calling a donks winn over KC a lock? I don't think we're world beaters but to call that one a lock seems foolish.

So, if you count the Orton/Tebow years of 2010-2011...

SD beat Denver 3 out of 4 times.

If you look at 2012, SD beat Denver ... zero times.

Oh and in week 5 of 2012, Denver was 2-3 and staring at a 28-0 halftime deficit to the Chargers in SD. The sky was falling...

Then, Denver came out in the third quarter ... put up 35 points in the 2nd half, while holding SD to zero.

Good luck with all that... whatever history from 2008 or 2009 makes you all warm and fuzzy inside, go use it.

That's cute.

I'm suggesting the home teams win in the series...

I agree, and I think the division race will continue right up to the last game.

Its awesome to have a divisional foe that is actually a rival again isn't it?

As much as I hate the Broncos, Raiders, and to some extent Chargers, it's kind of nice to have the division race be a contest between strong teams, or at least strong teams and Peyton Manning.

Agreed.

Nobody is beating the broncos this year.

Their losses will come next year. Notably, in January.

Our defense needs to get its run defense figured out.

We're not even trying, really. We're playing in dime packages 60% of the time now.

Well if you take away three runs the Chiefs are middle of the pack there. Obviously, you count the plays that are played, but that's the reason for that statistical in congruence.

Denver has played 4 teams with 4 wins.

You also said nobody was running on the Chiefs defense this year, and then McCoy put on a good performance. Not bagging on you, just hoping your luck with guarantees continues.

I said nobody is running on this defense before the Eagles game?

I don't remember that.

Maybe it was Direckshun. My bad.

It was Direckshun.

I did say that I thought Stanzi could be a NFL starter, though.

Just go with that next time.

Nice Sig.

I lost a bet. I'm a dex fan, when used in a specific role.

Like I said, just go with the Stanzi material. It's old, but at least it's legit.

Hef watch the ****ing games. This team was run on by the eagles read option, but have been stout otherwise.

This defense is beating people up and stealing their lunch money

We quake in fear of knowshon mereno

LMAO didja see Manning cussing him after the stupid unnecessary roughness penalty?

Giving up 10 pts a game and this moron slings run defense smack...incredible

Hey, I'm just saying things can change. You guys aren't doing so well in run defense, OCs tend to notice things like that, it may become more of an issue as the season goes on.

I remember when we hired a new, offensive genius head coach who loved to pass every down. Our offense was anemic (good at protecting the ball, though), but our defense was surprisingly good, and lead us to start the season 6-0. We were blowing teams out (as much as an anemic offense can), with scores like 27-6 and 23-3.

That didn't last. Teams got tape on our schemes, stopped everything we did, and we didn't even make the playoffs.

Maybe it will end differently for you.

Only one team ran well. And to be honest. Two busted plays opened that up for them to have those kinds of numbers.

The Jags, Cowboys, and Giants were all held to below average stats.

One bad game on a short week to prepare for an offense with two athletic studs, is not the end of the world.

10 points a game, is nothing to sneeze at either.

Yeah Andy Reid and Mc Dipshit coached teams are a good comparison ROFL

They got run on ONE game. **** this is stupid.

Not true. The Jags, Eagles, and Giants all had more YPC against the Chiefs than they did against other teams. That's 3 out of 4 games so far. The Chiefs are #32 in YPC allowed for a reason.

The 6.5 points per game the 2009 Broncos were allowing in their first 4 games was nothing to sneeze at, either.

Do you know what they call it when one teams fans takes to belittling every little thing that is wrong with another teams just to make themselves feel superior?


FEAR.............

Good. The Donkeys should be scared. Not of the Patriots, not of the Texans, not of the Colts, or anyone in the AFC NORTH.

You should be scared of the Chiefs.

Run along and toy around with the crap fest. Enjoy it.

Time stops for no man, and no man blocks the front seven of the Chiefs for too long.

Patiently waiting. Stalking, stewing, but, still WAITING..........

PHI did the same with Denver... putting up 166 on the ground, not the 264 that they put up vs KC.

It's been an interesting season.

Denver has collectively scored 72 points in the 1H, while allowing 46 points.

Denver has collectively scored 107 points in the 2H, while allowing 45 points in the 2H ... with 31 of those in the 4th quarter after the game was essentially decided.

It is what it is, they need to clamp down a bit tighter and should continue to improve.

What were the total rushes? They weren't significant numbers of rushes. lets not pretend like the Chiefs are being run on 30 times a game.

They aren't.

Teams cant afford to.

Honestly, the Defense isn't the concern... shouldn't be the concern. The concern should be the offense, I've said this for 2 weeks now.

Yes, the Chiefs put up 14 points in the 4th quarter vs NY to make it look totally silly, but it was close for quite a while.

KC has 9 offensive TDs in 4 games against crappy teams... and it's not like they've been "holding back".

Why would teams not be able to afford to have a lot of running plays against the Chiefs? It's not like KC's O is leaving anyone in the dust.

How many times did the Giants run a 10 yard draw play on 3rd and 15 yesterday?

Good running stats.

Its nice to see the AFC west kicking ass again,
And I like the fact the chiefs are progressing and improving each game, it seems each week someone steps up for this team.

When we meet Den the first time we are coming off a bye week, that's going to be a good test for both teams. Then two weeks later cracking heads again in arrowhead!

The second half of the schedule looks brutal, but as mentioned before we just need to win half are remaining games and be at 10 and 6.
I like are chances to make a playoff spot this year now four weeks ago I would of thought we had a 40% chance

The NFL just loves KC too much. I mean really, they give KC a bye before their road game to Denver. Then, 2 weeks later after hosting SD in Arrowhead, they get the Broncos again?

Denver comes off the bye, travels to San Diego... then home for the Chiefs, then on the road at NE and then on the road at KC? It's a travesty of monumental proportions... KC is just getting all sorts of breaks there. Unreal - happens every year.




:D ROFL (tried my best TEX impersonation)

If we're going to talk about rushing defense, we might as well throw in the little pearl about how the majority of rushing yards we surrender comes on draws on 3rd and long.

And no, our offense has in no way been forcing teams to be one-dimensional. At least not so far.

Much more impressive is our third/fourth down defense allowing a new set of downs just slightly more than once every five times. Ultimately, that stat is more indicative of how the defense is playing (instead of a bunch of garbage yards or three broken plays that account for 25% of all the yards allowed on the ground.

1/14 on third down was no joke yesterday. (Nor was 9/16 on the other side of the ball). Nor was 3 giveaways followed by 3 forced punts on 3-and-out.

These are the stats that matter

Scoring defense: 10.2 ppg - 1st in the NFL
3rd down conversion percentage against: 22% - 2nd in the NFL
Passing defense: 188.8 ypg - 3rd in the NFL
Yards per passing attempt against: 5.8 - 1st in the NFL
QB rating against: 63.6 - 2nd in the NFL
Sacks: 18 - 1st in the NFL
Time of Possession - 33.42 - 3rd in the NFL
T/O differential - +9 - 1st in the NFL

:drool:

4-12, but they are the most talented teams to go a combined 4-12 over the first four games in a season ever assembled. /Knowmo

I can NOT believe this went untouched. Slipping, this place is.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...%20the%20other

ROFL

4 games into a season with new personnel and a new system.

Remember this time last season when Peyton was an interception machine?

I wonder how many of the rushing yards we've given up were draw plays (give up plays) on 3rd and long or when we were playing pass defense with a 2 score or more lead? I know there's been a lot.

Really?

31-7?

Close game!!!!

Other than the Jags game, all of our games have been relatively close at halftime.

DAL: Down 10-7
PHI: Ahead 16-6
NYG: Ahead 10-7

:drool::drool::clap::clap::BLVD::BLVD::toast::toast::holdman::holdman:

22 percent 3rd down defense and I'm supposed to worry about the run D ROFL We have teams in 3rd and long ALL damn day long. Oh noes sweet draws on 3rd and 20 for 10.

LMAO yep, Hef is furiously scribbling away at his notepad trying to spin that into a KC letdown.

They have been, and I understand that.

But, its not how you start, its how you finish. And the Chiefs are brutal in the second half on folks.

So... teams don't want to run the ball? That's your point?

Hey, I'm not saying it will happen, just that 4 games into the 2009 season the Broncos were in a similar position (with a better defense), and it didn't exactly work out. If you don't want to discuss the potential weaknesses of your team, that's fine. You just may be surprised when they become big issues later.

Shut the hell up. You guys are doomed in the cold with Manning. Just like last year. You won't get a ring with him.

Oh! Well that sucks

As of this morning, KC has the 32nd ranked schedule according to Sagarin, so you may have a point.

(P.S. Denver has played the 31st...)

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/sagarin/

Yeah neither have done much yet, but both are handling their business...

Neither team has had a test on the level of a team like the Colts yet, they've got a pretty good idea as to how balanced they really are this year and it looks good for them.

KC has offensive issues while Denver has defensive issues.

They've both played fairly light schedules through 5 games, and they're both 3-0 vs the same teams ... all from the NFCE.

KC beat NY and Dallas in KC, and PHI on the road.
KC scored 74 points collectively while giving up 39.

Denver beat NY and Dallas on the road, and PHI at home.
Denver scored 144 points while giving up 91.

The first game between these two will be quite interesting. Is the defense in KC for real and can they contain Denver, and will KC be able to open it up on offense against Denver's defense?

I think it will be a rather entertaining and high scoring game, with an O/U of about 75 points.

Colts schedule rank = 30th.

Yeah, but hard to say its weak after beating SF and SEA.

It's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy.

This early in the season, beating your opponents makes them weaker in hindsight strength of schedule rankings.

Exactly. 20% of our opponent's losses are to us.