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Imon Yourside 11-11-2013 07:11 AM

We go in there intending to chew bubblegum and kickass while realizing we're all out of gum.

Imon Yourside 11-11-2013 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 10177284)
Is that all?

You guys are going to get Smiff'd so hard you won't know what day of the week it is.

SeeingRed 11-11-2013 08:02 AM

Hit manning hard and often...even if we have to take a 15 yarder

SeeingRed 11-11-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 10177284)
Is that all?

Physical football. Hit gimpy and hit him hard!

Pasta Little Brioni 11-11-2013 08:04 AM

Pampered Peyton...Euro soccer player Decker....Slowshon Moreno...Bball TE boy...Delerium Tremens...PeeWeelker

Soft ****ng bitches. Hit them and hit them hard.

Rausch 11-11-2013 08:13 AM

We do the same thing we do every week:

1) Rush the passer.
2) Win the turnover battle.
3) Do not give up quick scoring drives. Make them march the field.

We do all 3 we win - if we can't we don't...

Sanka 11-11-2013 08:14 AM

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Rausch 11-11-2013 08:18 AM

I'm curious what the line opens at...

Sanka 11-11-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10177394)
I'm curious what the line opens at...

ESPN has Donkville by 9

Three7s 11-11-2013 08:26 AM

Game plan? Only game plan I got is.....

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ILChief 11-11-2013 08:52 AM

Hit manning hard early. Even if not sacks. He will get antsy and make bad throws. On offense, run the ball and don't turn over.

We have to keep the score in the 20's or less. We can't get into a shootout

Dayze 11-11-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10177458)
Hit manning hard early. Even if not sacks. He will get antsy and make bad throws. On offense, run the ball and don't turn over.

We have to keep the score in the 20's or less. We can't get into a shootout

yep; just be around him. or around his feet/legs etc.

I swear, I want our LBs or CBs to jack up their WRs if/when they run that rub bullshit.

Danguardace 11-11-2013 08:58 AM

Take some shots down field early they wont be expecting it

petegz28 11-11-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 10177477)
Take some shots down field early they wont be expecting it

I think they need to keep sending Dex or JC out in the pattern and force Von Douche to cover or roll up a safety. That should generate either a huge mis-match or 1-1 coverage over the top

Frazod 11-11-2013 09:05 AM

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Bowser 11-11-2013 09:06 AM

We can NOT play zone defense, even if somehow we get up a bunch of points.

Do NOT play zone against Manning. Ever.

BlackHelicopters 11-11-2013 09:16 AM

Play to win the game.

Fat Elvis 11-11-2013 09:17 AM

Frazod beat me to it.....

Strongside 11-11-2013 09:33 AM

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Molitoth 11-11-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 10177275)
Agree with above PLUS:

I strongly believe Denver is going to start the game stuffing the box and dare us to throw to beat them.

That is all

This is what every team does, because they know Alex Smith won't do it.

We need to start the game by testing them Deep, use the pass to open up the run. Then we can dink & dunk the rest of the game.

Three7s 11-11-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 10177514)
Frazod beat me to it.....

And I beat him to it! :#

bricks 11-11-2013 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10177494)
We can NOT play zone defense, even if somehow we get up a bunch of points.

Do NOT play zone against Manning. Ever.

This.

Absolutely this.

He'll pick you apart if you play zone.

King_Chief_Fan 11-11-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10177511)
Play to win the game.

you can win football games with field goals

Dayze 11-11-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 10177585)
you can win football games with field goals

at first I was like:
http://img.fannation.com/upload/trut...rm_edwards.jpg

then I was like:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OMiSrEJXn.../s400/herm.jpg

bricks 11-11-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 10177212)
Defense:
Man coverage, Poe needs to disrupt, We have to hit Peyton and plant him on the ground multiple times, even if it takes a few penalties. We will need 5 plus sacks and maybe some turnovers.

Offense:
Somehow our Oline needs to grow a spine and get mean. We need to control the clock. So spread out Denver, and hammer them with tons of runs and play action. JC will need 30+ touches in receiving and running.

We need to take shots once every 5 to 6 plays down field, even if it is just an overthrow to keep them honest.

Yeah, good luck getting 5 sacks against Peyton.

Rausch 11-11-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10177494)
We can NOT play zone defense, even if somehow we get up a bunch of points.

Do NOT play zone against Manning. Ever.

THIS!

Rausch 11-11-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10177549)
And I beat him to it! :#

And rheps you got.

Simmer down...

bricks 11-11-2013 10:07 AM

I would blitz him, but not too much.

You gotta limit the blitzing. I agree with Milkman there.

If the Chiefs do blitz him, I'd like to see some well timed blitzes.

I'm surprised nobody mentioned "disguising" the blitz. That is one thing the Chiefs should do. If you wanna beat Manning, you not only have to hit him, but try to confuse him as well. You gotta get into his head.

Dayze 11-11-2013 10:08 AM

I wouldn't blitz him very often; especially in 3-wide sets.

Frazod 11-11-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10177549)
And I beat him to it! :#

Oops. Well, he can have DOUBLE PAIN!

tooge 11-11-2013 10:16 AM

tight man coverage. They will try the screen over and over, along with short hit routes like slants and short out iso's. Hit Manning alot. I mean alot. Even if it's borderline late. One offense, slants, Jamal out of the backfield, and lots of straight ahead running.

Rasputin 11-11-2013 01:02 PM

Forget trying make Alex Smith a passing quarterback even if they are dink and dunks. Get Jamaal Charles 20-25 carries and spell him with Kniles Davis with about 5 carries. Playaction pass is something Alex Smith is actually good at so run game and playaction pass can make this offence operate and be effective. Put it in Jamaal Charles hands first and often and then pass to keep donko defense honest.

Keep Peyton on the sidelines and when he is in hit him hard on defense.

Beef Supreme 11-11-2013 01:38 PM

Blitz up the middle. The donks will spend all week game planning for Hali and Houston from the edges. Blitz the middle and ruin Neckbone's day.

Pablo 11-11-2013 01:42 PM

I really don't think blitzing is any sort of solution at all. Hali, Houston, Jackson and Poe need to play down and get pressure without any sort of blitz.

Manning gets the ball out too quick and throws too many little screens to blitz constantly. We'll get killed that way. Line up in man and jam the **** out of the WR's at the line and let Poe ****ing eat. Once he starts imposing his will, there's no ****ing way Manning doesn't take a couple of shots from the outside and get rattled.

Pablo 11-11-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 10177617)
I would blitz him, but not too much.

You gotta limit the blitzing. I agree with Milkman there.

If the Chiefs do blitz him, I'd like to see some well timed blitzes.

I'm surprised nobody mentioned "disguising" the blitz. That is one thing the Chiefs should do. If you wanna beat Manning, you not only have to hit him, but try to confuse him as well. You gotta get into his head.

You aren't going to confuse Manning with a blitz. He's one of the smartest QB's to ever play. He's not getting confused.

I truly don't think you've got a chance at beating him mentally. He's a soft-ass. He hates getting hit or pushed and that is what rattles him.

Johnny Vegas 11-11-2013 01:55 PM

keep that giant forehead on the sidelines drinking gatorade. lots of first downs. run the ball a lot. get Gray and Davis involved if need be. score score score. clock is the enemy no doubt.

lcarus 11-11-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10176445)
Simple game plan on offense.

Do what you do well, bring in Sherman, line up in thd I formation, and get the ball in Charles's hands.

On defense, limited blitzing.
Generate pressure with stunts and overloads, and mug the receivers at the line.

I've been wanting the I-formation too, but it seems Reid is in love with the pistol and shotgun. He must just hate the I since bringing Sherman in means we have 1 less receiver or TE on the field. I mean, we have 5 All-Pro WRs and 3 HOF tight ends, so it does make sense.

sd4chiefs 11-11-2013 02:27 PM

The forecast for Sunday night in Denver is clear and temps in the mid 20's. That's good for the Chiefs? :hmmm:

Sorter 11-11-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10177494)
We can NOT play zone defense, even if somehow we get up a bunch of points.

Do NOT play zone against Manning. Ever.

LMAO

Hammock Parties 11-11-2013 02:43 PM

If you play man every snap he's going to pick on Sean Smith and destroy him with Demaryius Thomas. You can't do that, either.

Gotta mix it up and disguise coverages.

Sorter 11-11-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10178356)
If you play man every snap he's going to pick on Sean Smith and destroy him with Demaryius Thomas. You can't do that, either.

Gotta mix it up and disguise coverages.

This might be your finest post yet.

Hammock Parties 11-11-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10178387)
This might be your finest post yet.

This is going to be rough sledding for Cooper, too. I'm sure he'll be on Decker most of the time.

We absolutely cannot afford to play 100 percent man.

O.city 11-11-2013 10:05 PM

Doesn't really matter what coverage we play, of we don't get pressure, and give him time we be in trouble.

Kaepernick 11-12-2013 01:00 AM

Game plan, "Just win, baby!" :D

L.A. Chieffan 11-12-2013 01:01 AM

Kill kill kill the White Man

Breaker 11-12-2013 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10176402)
Charles needs 30 touches, I know that.

Against the #4 rushing defense in the league?

LoneWolf 11-12-2013 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Breaker (Post 10180045)
Against the #4 rushing defense in the league?

Touches doesn't mean all rushes you reerun.

Wallcrawler 11-12-2013 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10180047)
Touches doesn't mean all rushes you reerun.

Yeah, some of them will be those ones where Jamaal gets the floaty pass 5 yards behind the LOS with 2 defenders sprinting at him unblocked.

We absolutely MUST have at least 5 or 6 of those bread and butter plays.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 11-12-2013 07:00 AM

I assume they won't let Alex Smith run free like they did Rivers.

ThatRaceCardGuy 11-12-2013 07:37 AM

Ankles.

Aspengc8 11-12-2013 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10179586)
Doesn't really matter what coverage we play, of we don't get pressure, and give him time we be in trouble.

This. If we can get pressure while only rushing 4, leaves us to mix up more coverages and play press man with help over the top.

PRIEST 11-12-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10176420)
No kidding.


Law could be in a wheel chair with flat tires and still pick off Manning a couple of times.




This ;)

Lightrise 11-12-2013 08:45 AM

Man to man. Put Derrick Johnson with Flowers on Welker 70% of the time. Keep manning off the field. Need 175 yards from Charles. Start Swartz over Allen.

BossChief 11-12-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10178399)
This is going to be rough sledding for Cooper, too. I'm sure he'll be on Decker most of the time.

We absolutely cannot afford to play 100 percent man.

IMO Cooper should be covering Thomas and Smith should be on Decker.

I think Cooper has the ball skills to get a pick or two against manning when he tries to force the ball to Thomas.

tredadda 11-12-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Breaker (Post 10180045)
Against the #4 rushing defense in the league?

One of the reasons for that stat is because of how quickly Denver scores. Teams fall behind early and abandon the run. That more than anything is why their rush defense is ranked #4.

tredadda 11-12-2013 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10179586)
Doesn't really matter what coverage we play, of we don't get pressure, and give him time we be in trouble.

That could be said of almost any QB. Pressure on Manning and keeping him off the field are our keys to victory.

Broncofan7 11-12-2013 09:19 AM

PUNT, PUNT, PUNT,PUNT, hope for a turnover....

halftime

PUNT, PUNT, PUNT, PUNT, hope for a turnover, Chase Daniel sighting, Denver 34 KC 0

RunKC 11-12-2013 09:24 AM

I really like the Flowers v Welker matchup. Flowers can handle the smaller guys.

The player we need to watch is their TE. I'm honestly only worried about the Thomas's bc I know once a DB plays physical on Welker and Decker, they are going to get flustered and cry for flags.

warrior 11-12-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Broncofan7 (Post 10180217)
PUNT, PUNT, PUNT,PUNT, hope for a turnover....

halftime

PUNT, PUNT, PUNT, PUNT, hope for a turnover, Chase Daniel sighting, Denver 34 KC 0

you're not a very good troll your sauce is really weak like your old QB's arm

now run along and get ready for the forced retirement party.

warrior 11-12-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10180229)
I really like the Flowers v Welker matchup. Flowers can handle the smaller guys.

The player we need to watch is their TE. I'm honestly only worried about the Thomas's bc I know once a DB plays physical on Welker and Decker, they are going to get flustered and cry for flags.



Yep they always cry for flags its down right pathetic.

tredadda 11-12-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Broncofan7 (Post 10180217)
PUNT, PUNT, PUNT,PUNT, hope for a turnover....

halftime

PUNT, PUNT, PUNT, PUNT, hope for a turnover, Chase Daniel sighting, Denver 34 KC 0

You are an idiot. Go away.

tredadda 11-12-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10180229)
I really like the Flowers v Welker matchup. Flowers can handle the smaller guys.

The player we need to watch is their TE. I'm honestly only worried about the Thomas's bc I know once a DB plays physical on Welker and Decker, they are going to get flustered and cry for flags.

I feel comfortable with Berry covering their TE. That is one part of his game where he has greatly improved.

TripleThreat 11-12-2013 09:32 AM

2 weeks ago I wondered why Denver has such A crap d this year after it carried Tebow years prior. Then I watched a game and realized Peyton had 4 or 5 3 and outs all in a row for the brief time I spent watching the game. I've come to realize imo that they are just a team that can score in a minute but also have alot of crap drives too which leaves there defense out on the field time and time again. Our offense doesn't screw over our defense like Peyton and his offense does and I think come 4th quarter there d will be gassed and ours fresh because of our type of football compared to there's. I think this game will be alot closer all the way to the end than ppl expect

Red Dawg 11-12-2013 09:35 AM

We win if we hit Manning a lot. If not we will lose. If he has time in the pocket then he will find someone. It's that simple.

tredadda 11-12-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 10180269)
We win if we hit Manning a lot. If not we will lose. If he has time in the pocket then he will find someone. It's that simple.

Yup, and that pressure needs to come up the middle. He likes to step up in the pocket, so preventing that is viatl to us winning. Poe will have the biggest impact of almost anyone on defense in this game. How he does will affect everything else.

Broncofan7 11-12-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 10180237)
You are an idiot. Go away.

Dusitn Colquitt has 55 PUNTS so far on the season...second only to Sam Koch of the Ratbirds .....you punt to us 6 times in a game and it's 21 points......

Pasta Little Brioni 11-12-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Broncofan7 (Post 10180366)
Dusitn Colquitt has 55 PUNTS so far on the season...second only to Sam Koch of the Ratbirds .....you punt to us 6 times in a game and it's 21 points......

You are a Faider fan, Autumn Fart. It's ****ing sad. Go watch Terrel and the fumbles rap the old school.

Broncofan7 11-12-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10176424)
Go after Orlando Franklin if/when we run the pass rush. He was more than susceptible to Larry freakin English.

That's a actually a legit point. Franklin is horrible in pass pro....

Broncofan7 11-12-2013 10:06 AM

Denver's D has better stats over the last 3 games than does Kansa City's:

posted this in another thread, but is relevant here:

Over the last 3 games played, Denver D has more sacks (9-6), allowed fewer passing yards (626-790), fewer rushing yards (364-371) and has two more interceptions (4-2) thank KC.

Here's the kicker: each of the QB's the Broncos have faced over this stretch have all been to the pro-bowl within the last 2 years, whereas none of the QB's KC faced had ever started a game for their team

Pasta Little Brioni 11-12-2013 10:07 AM

You are a Faid fan, nobody gives a ****.

durtyrute 11-12-2013 10:11 AM

How is it that we have one of the best backs in the league, a QB who is good at playaction passes, but we hardly ever do it?

trndobrd 11-12-2013 10:18 AM

On the defensive side of the ball:
The running game is the Bronco's key to success since the Indy game, not Manning. Interior Dline play will win or lose the game for the Chiefs. If they are stout at the point of attack, our LB speed will take care of the rest.

Limit blitzes. We have the talent to get pressure rushing four, especially not having to worry about trying to containing a mobile quarterback.

The Broncos can't run picks if the timing is broken up at the LOS. We have physical DBs that can manhandle their receivers. Understand that one will get loose and Lewis will be on the wrong side of the field picking his nose, but stick with it.

On offense:
Lot's of I formation with Sherman. JC is as fresh as he's going to be until September 2014, so run the damn ball. Use Alex Smith's mobility early on some designed bootlegs, along with some screens to slow down the Bronco's rush. Run some plays directly at Von "I'm wearing glasses now so it's all cool" Miller and steamroll him early.

Other thoughts:
-I believe Alex Smith hasn't been aggressive in his passing because he hasn't been in a game situation necessitating throwing into tight windows or letting Bowe go up and fight for the ball. This will could be the first game the KC gets seriously behind this could be the first game where AS has to take some risks and let it all hang out.

-2nd down and 1 = free play. Hey Andy, take a shot down the field! You can pick up a yard on 3rd down. Seriously, quit running JC up the middle on 2nd and 1.

-Should be in the high 20's with a possibility of some snow at game time. Old bones ache in the cold.

Broncofan7 11-12-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10180421)
You are a Faid fan, nobody gives a ****.

a "faid fan" ?? by virtue of your support for the Chiefs I knew that there was some neurological imbalance, but apparently you can't read nor do u have the ability to see color (Orange in particular)

KChiefer 11-12-2013 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 10180441)
How is it that we have one of the best backs in the league, a QB who is good at playaction passes, but we hardly ever do it?

O-line doesn't hold up long enough. Even if the line holds, Smith is not accurate with the deep ball.

Mr. Laz 11-12-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 10180441)
How is it that we have one of the best backs in the league, a QB who is good at playaction passes, but we hardly ever do it?

defense has to respect the run before the playaction pass does much

especially when the interior running game sucks because our Center and Guards can't move anyone.


plus Andy Reid doesn't run a playaction pass system.

Mr. Laz 11-12-2013 01:24 PM

our offense and defense has become very predictable the last few weeks


we better hope to hell that they have been practicing extra stuff and just not using it


same ol', same ol' is not going to be good enough in Dungver


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