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Dylan 11-18-2013 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10203365)
That's what the Chiefs needed to do yesterday against the Broncos and that's why we lost yesterday.

Even a quick passing offense can't keep firing when you have pressure straight up the middle. We got none and Lotulelei blowing through the center just absolutely detonated Brady's plan on that play.

Poe was the key to yesterday and he was largely neutralized. Next time they play, Hali/Houston need to force some doubles and allow Poe to get that pressure up the gut. If not, we're likely boned again.

When Peyton has a clean pocket – He will carve up a team’s defense. I was a little surprised that the Chiefs’ secondary played man-to-man and not zone, since man-to-man works in Peyton’s favor.

I think the Chiefs’ defense will play Peyton differently when they meet in Arrowhead Stadium in two weeks. Regardless of last night’s outcome, the Chiefs still have a chance to win the division. Beat the Broncos at home in two weeks and your team will have the inside track with four games to play.

TribalElder 11-18-2013 08:37 PM

Ewww josh mcdonkeys

ClevelandBronco 11-18-2013 08:43 PM

NFL.com description of the last play: L. Blount up the middle for –6 yds.

"Up"?

Ah. They corrected it. It was +4 yds.

Chiefs Pantalones 11-18-2013 08:44 PM

https://vine.co/v/hTHnqjFpeP2

I wonder if Mrs. Tom Brady has seen this LMAO

DJ's left nut 11-18-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10203455)
https://vine.co/v/hTHnqjFpeP2

I wonder if Mrs. Tom Brady has seen this LMAO

I feel like I could watch that on a loop for 8 hours straight and it would be funny the entire time.

Dylan 11-18-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10203455)
https://vine.co/v/hTHnqjFpeP2

I wonder if Mrs. Tom Brady has seen this LMAO

LMAO

Easy 6 11-18-2013 08:46 PM

They should rename it the American Pop Music Awards

TribalElder 11-18-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 10203453)
NFL.com description of the last play: L. Blount up the middle for –6 yds.

"Up"?

Ah. They corrected it. It was +4 yds.

That came from the KC offensive playbook

They shipped it in from last night ROFL

Easy 6 11-18-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10203455)
https://vine.co/v/hTHnqjFpeP2

I wonder if Mrs. Tom Brady has seen this LMAO

HA, that's great, you NEVER see that guy smile during a game

TribalElder 11-18-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10203435)
Ewww josh mcdonkeys

LMAO

Post #5000

ThaVirus 11-18-2013 08:50 PM

"I've never even seen defensive backs run to the ball that fast!"

Jon Gruden really is unbearable at times. He's so sensational.

TribalElder 11-18-2013 08:51 PM

Double A Gap Blitz

Chiefs Pantalones 11-18-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10203477)
HA, that's great, you NEVER see that guy smile during a game

Giselle was probably pissed. Or not lol.

Easy 6 11-18-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10203494)
Giselle was probably pissed. Or not lol.

If i were him, i'd dump her.

DJ's left nut 11-18-2013 08:57 PM

Just a friendly reminder after watching Chandler Jones, who is 2nd in the league for sacks by a 4-3 DE, split a double as an interior pass-rusher to bring down Newton by himself: PFF says that he is actually a detriment to the Patriots as a pass-rusher.

PFF - still very stupid, very often.

rabblerouser 11-18-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10203505)
If i were him, i'd dump her.

yeah. and if I were her, I'd go out with me.

Hammock Parties 11-18-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10203507)
PFF says that he is actually a detriment to the Patriots as a pass-rusher.

PFF - still very stupid, very often.

You don't really understand the way PFF works.

That's not what they're saying.

Overall they've given him high grades, but a couple of bad games are skewing his data right now. Look at the week by week breakdown.

ThaVirus 11-18-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10203455)
https://vine.co/v/hTHnqjFpeP2

I wonder if Mrs. Tom Brady has seen this LMAO

LMAO That is ****ing amazingly fantastic.

Saul Good 11-18-2013 09:01 PM

Last time he was on MNF, Talib embarrassed KU by not saying he played there. This time, he embarrassed them by saying he did.

Pepe Silvia 11-18-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10203455)
https://vine.co/v/hTHnqjFpeP2

I wonder if Mrs. Tom Brady has seen this LMAO

He could smash if he wanted.

Simply Red 11-18-2013 09:03 PM

yaay team.

Sure-Oz 11-18-2013 09:11 PM

Yikes, Johnson in alot of pain

Hammock Parties 11-18-2013 09:11 PM

Oh ****.

My Sandbox pass rush just went down the crapper.

Dylan 11-18-2013 09:12 PM

bad news to lose a productive DE

Sure-Oz 11-18-2013 09:13 PM

Dickhead Patriot with the leg whip

TribalElder 11-18-2013 09:14 PM

Cheatriots!

DJ's left nut 11-18-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10203513)
You don't really understand the way PFF works.

That's not what they're saying.

Overall they've given him high grades, but a couple of bad games are skewing his data right now. Look at the week by week breakdown.

Yes, I do.

My point is that they're disproportionately aggressive about taking points away in PFF. In a game where he had 2 sacks, a QB hit and 4 QB hurries, he gained a whopping .6 in pass-rush score. In another game with 2 sacks, 2 hits and 5 pressures he gained 1 and in another 2 sack game he again gained 1.

In the 2 games this season where he's not secured a sack he's yielded a negative 6.1 score in total. Hell, in a game where he had 2 sacks and 2 hurries they gave him a negative grade. So in a game where he actually earned 2 sacks and 2 hurries, he gave up all the progress he made in the game with 2 sacks and 4 hurries (yeah, that makes sense). Worse still, in the 2 games where he committed the unpardonable sin of not sacking the QB, he lost more than twice as many points as he gained in those 3 games where he accumulated 6 sacks, 4 hits and 11 hurries.

When the aggregate score is wholly useless, then perhaps you should change your scoring system.

PFF's aggregate scores are simply not useful at all.

DJ's left nut 11-18-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10203549)
Oh ****.

My Sandbox pass rush just went down the crapper.

Yeah, I'm gonna struggle with that as well.

Oh wait, no I won't. I'll have Robert Quinn, Gerald McCoy, Jared Odrick, Chandler Jones and Robert Irvin chasing you sonsabitches around all year.

I've thrown so many resources at building this pass-rush over the last 2 years (2 first round draft picks plus a first round player in Cameron Jordan, MJD, Heath Miller and a 3rd rounder) - if I can't get to the damn QB this year, I'll give up and concede that I have no idea what I'm doing.

Hammock Parties 11-18-2013 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10203571)
Yeah, I'm gonna struggle with that as well.

Oh wait, no I won't. I'll have Robert Quinn, Gerald McCoy, Jared Odrick, Chandler Jones and Robert Irvin chasing you sonsabitches around all year.

I've thrown so many resources at building this pass-rush over the last 2 years (2 first round draft picks plus a first round player in Cameron Jordan, MJD, Heath Miller and a 3rd rounder) - if I can't get to the damn QB this year, I'll give up and concede that I have no idea what I'm doing.

If Charles Johnson is done for the year, so am I.

Julius Peppers is now a brokedick, and Tom Brady isn't what he was. And CJ Spiller hasn't done jack this year.

I'm thinking I have a wild-card team at best now.

Sorter 11-18-2013 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10203571)
Yeah, I'm gonna struggle with that as well.

Oh wait, no I won't. I'll have Robert Quinn, Gerald McCoy, Jared Odrick, Chandler Jones and Robert Irvin chasing you sonsabitches around all year.

I've thrown so many resources at building this pass-rush over the last 2 years (2 first round draft picks plus a first round player in Cameron Jordan, MJD, Heath Miller and a 3rd rounder) - if I can't get to the damn QB this year, I'll give up and concede that I have no idea what I'm doing.

If my Sandbox team was good at getting to the QB, I'd give you some tips.


But we suck at that.

TribalElder 11-18-2013 09:20 PM

We could use a bauce TE or three

O.city 11-18-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10203575)
If my Sandbox team was good at getting to the QB, I'd give you some tips.


But we suck at that.

Can I get some tips at mowing a box?

Sorter 11-18-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10203577)
Can I get some tips at mowing a box?

Define "mowing" and "box".

Dylan 11-18-2013 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 10203555)
Dickhead Patriot with the leg whip

Reminds me of Flozell Adams, whom leg-whipped Justin Tuck and Osi Umenyiora.

The NFL fined Flozell numerous times for leg-whipping players.

DaFace 11-18-2013 09:23 PM

Just now tuning in. Any major stories of the game, or just a generally even game so far?

Sorter 11-18-2013 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10203593)
Just now tuning in. Any major stories of the game, or just a generally even game so far?

Ask Clayton.

tk13 11-18-2013 09:25 PM

LMAO Madden football there.

DaFace 11-18-2013 09:26 PM

I do love a mobile QB sometimes.

ThaVirus 11-18-2013 09:26 PM

Trade our next three 1st rounders for Cam LMAO

tk13 11-18-2013 09:26 PM

Actually you probably can't even do that in Madden.

Pepe Silvia 11-18-2013 09:26 PM

What a run.

Saul Good 11-18-2013 09:26 PM

Amazing

TribalElder 11-18-2013 09:27 PM

That was pimp

TribalElder 11-18-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10203601)
Actually you probably can't even do that in Madden.

Next year you will be able to ROFL

DJ's left nut 11-18-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10203574)
If Charles Johnson is done for the year, so am I.

Julius Peppers is now a brokedick, and Tom Brady isn't what he was. And CJ Spiller hasn't done jack this year.

I'm thinking I have a wild-card team at best now.

I'm telling you - if Portland gets the CB they're after, I'd be terrified of that team. He has 2 elite WRs, 2 plus RBs, a solid O-line and a good QB in Luck. He has 2 plus 3-4 DEs and then Mingo and Hali at OLB (with a pair of solid ILBs as well).

He may be a year away yet, but I think that Portland is as much a challenge in that division as anyone.

I have some spare CBs, but I can't get on the same page as him for a trade - he's weak where I'm looking for guys.

Dylan 11-18-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10203593)
Just now tuning in. Any major stories of the game, or just a generally even game so far?

Panthers defense front seven swarm and can hit, but penalties are piling up.

Belichick benches Ridley for fumbling the ball. Pats would most likely be ahead if not for the fumble.

Charles Johnson was possibly leg-whipped and injured on the play.

Great running by Cam...

Steve Smith is in Talib's head and doing an good job beating him.

TLO 11-18-2013 09:32 PM

Panthers looking impressive.

TribalElder 11-18-2013 09:33 PM

Talib don't want it

ThaVirus 11-18-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10203617)
Panthers looking impressive.

Their defense might actually be better than ours.

If not, it's very close.

DaFace 11-18-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 10203614)
Panthers defense front seven swarm and can hit, but penalties are piling up.

Belichick benches Ridley for fumbling the ball. Pats would most likely be ahead if not for the fumble.

Charles Johnson was possibly leg-whipped and injured on the play.

Great running by Cam...

Steve Smith is in Talib's head and doing an good job beating him.

Cool - appreciate it.

ThaVirus 11-18-2013 09:34 PM

Great pass. Damn great pass..

TLO 11-18-2013 09:34 PM

Damn impressive.

Dylan 11-18-2013 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10203617)
Panthers looking impressive.

Very...

hometeam 11-18-2013 09:34 PM

I wanted Kuechly. Just sayin.

Pepe Silvia 11-18-2013 09:35 PM

Beautiful corner pass.

Pepe Silvia 11-18-2013 09:35 PM

The Bears ****ed up letting Olsen go.

TLO 11-18-2013 09:35 PM

Someone, can't remember who at the moment, once said;

Geno > Cam

Who was that?? :hmmm:

DJ's left nut 11-18-2013 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 10203629)
I wanted Kuechly. Just sayin.

Poe's been more impactful. In fact, he's been significantly so.

Kuechly over Poe would've made us a substantially worse football team. The upgrade at ILB would've been over our 2-down backer in Akeem Jordan and we'd be starting Toribio at NT.

Nope, in this case it appears Pioli clearly made the right call.

TLO 11-18-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10203577)
Can I get some tips at mowing a box?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10203580)
Define "mowing" and "box".

LMAO

Hammock Parties 11-18-2013 09:40 PM

Johnson coming back.

*phew*

DJ's left nut 11-18-2013 09:40 PM

Charles Johnson to return back to the game.

What a pussy. Goes off on a cart, back in the game a 15 minutes later.

That's some Paul Pierce shit right there...

DJ's left nut 11-18-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10203661)
Johnson coming back.

*phew*

Whatever. You couldn't beat Alex Smith with Brady in God mode and Spiller eating souls.

Jericho Cotchery and Tony Gonzalez aren't going to save you this time.

BTW - I'll see your Cotchery pickup with Walter Thurmond. The guy's going to be a legitimate starting caliber CB and I got him for $1 right before he started getting significant PT. And unlike Cotchery, his matching rights next year may actually be worth something.

TLO 11-18-2013 09:42 PM

I fail at embedding youtube videos to this site while on my phone : (

AussieChiefsFan 11-18-2013 09:42 PM

Did they just call the Panthers D the best in the NFL?

Sorter 11-18-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10203668)
Whatever. You couldn't beat Alex Smith with Brady in God mode and Spiller eating souls.

Jericho Cotchery and Tony Gonzalez aren't going to save you this time.

BTW - I'll see your Cotchery pickup with Walter Thurmond. The guy's going to be a legitimate starting caliber CB and I got him for $1 right before he started getting significant PT. And unlike Cotchery, his matching rights next year may actually be worth something.

With Browner's injury, that's interesting. However, you've only got him for a year.

Hammock Parties 11-18-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10203668)
Whatever. You couldn't beat Alex Smith with Brady in God mode and Spiller eating souls.

Jericho Cotchery and Tony Gonzalez aren't going to save you this time.

We'll see. We'll see.

Alex Smith isn't going to be worth shit to the god damned Rabbits this year, and you're going without Rodgers for awhile.

I'll be in the mix. And I get Jason Peters back. He's had a good year.

ThaVirus 11-18-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10203672)
I fail at embedding youtube videos to this site while on my phone : (

Q but thanks for posting that so I could watch it again.

I wonder if he's smirking at a teammate off camera or if he was replaying in his head what he should have done when she looked at him.. LMAO

Dylan 11-18-2013 09:44 PM

Cam has certainly matured this year - He was always a good runner, however his accuracy in passing is most impressive this season.

Now, if only he could stop posing after every damn play he makes - LOL

TribalElder 11-18-2013 09:44 PM

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_as...SuperSloMo.gif
Damn

mcaj22 11-18-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10203645)
Poe's been more impactful. In fact, he's been significantly so.

Kuechly over Poe would've made us a substantially worse football team. The upgrade at ILB would've been over our 2-down backer in Akeem Jordan and we'd be starting Toribio at NT.

Nope, in this case it appears Pioli clearly made the right call.

I usually agree with almost everything you saw but man Kuechly is so good. They shipped Jon Beason away for peanuts because Kuechly is that good. Kuechly and DJ would have been like our Willis and Bowman. They would be out there all three downs together, both of them could cover the pass, blitz, pick up TEs, RBs it would be a mismatch nightmare and way better than the extra scrub safeties we sub in. When you have two great ILBs I dont think it matters what slapdick is at the spaceeater. Can you even name the NT on the 49ers?

DJ's left nut 11-18-2013 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10203679)
We'll see. We'll see.

Alex Smith isn't going to be worth shit to the god damned Rabbits this year, and you're going without Rodgers for awhile.

I'll be in the mix.

We may all end up Manning roadkill again...

ThaVirus 11-18-2013 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 10203675)
Did they just call the Panthers D the best in the NFL?

I heard "The number 1 defense in the NFL". I think they're ranked number 1 based on YPG allowed. That's what most analysts refer to when they say that.

Pepe Silvia 11-18-2013 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10203684)

Damn, that's some Stretch Armstrong shit.

Sorter 11-18-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 10203692)
Damn, that's some Stretch Armstrong shit.

Mike Glennon approved.

DJ's left nut 11-18-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10203686)
I usually agree with almost everything you saw but man Kuechly is so good. They shipped Jon Beason away for peanuts because Kuechly is that good. Kuechly and DJ would have been like our Willis and Bowman. When you have two great ILBs I dont think it matters what slapdick is at the spaceeater. Can you even name the NT on the 49ers?

Dorsey.

But this defense is easily at its most dynamic when it's getting push push up the middle. Honestly, I think that's the only way to beat these 'spread' style quick-passing offenses.

I'd take Gerald McCoy over Bowman every single time. There's just no replacement for an interior pass rush from your down lineman. Whatever plan the QB has goes out the window immediately.

AussieChiefsFan 11-18-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10203696)
Mike Glennon approved.

:LOL:

DJ's left nut 11-18-2013 09:47 PM

Wow. Belichick let Ridley have another goal-line carry.

That's pretty surprising.

ThaVirus 11-18-2013 09:47 PM

Brady's still got it.

I've never been a fan of the guy, but he's ****ing mastered this sport.

RealSNR 11-18-2013 09:47 PM

Did Danny Amendola die? I need him to not get 2 points the rest of the game in order to hang on in my fantasy matchup.

Saul Good 11-18-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 10203692)
Damn, that's some Stretch Armstrong shit.

Tell reddit I said hi.


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