No, it wasn't.

It's not a team loss when you score 44 points. It's you, spreading blame to people on this team that don't deserve it. This loss is 100% on the defense and their inability to hold a 28 point lead.

So was 2003 a team loss too or did you like Trent Green and refuse to blame him?

Front load that shit, emphasis on signing bonus, etc.

My ideal situation would be for Smith to QB the team for the next two years, with some TBD n00b challenging to be the franchise QB in year three. Said n00b should be added to the roster either this off-season or next.

Tough. I don't give a crap. I'm tired of reading this tired flipping crap. This is ridiculous that we score 44 points and everyone's bitching about the offense. Completely ridiculous. End of discussion.

Says the guy who thought Brady Quinn could be Len Dawson.

There are some on here who can admit they can get behind Smith now. I'm sorry you're not one of them.

I'm all in for extending his contract. We have immediate needs that should have a higher priority other than Alex.

Bill Cowher just said it's no coincidence that the better QB has won all the playoff games so far.

6 more years, factoring in next season. He would be 35 years old. hes not 30 until May.

He has improved for 4 straight years.

Does Bill know Alex out played Luck?

Hard to argue.

But, people who knew football, knew that Andy Dalton is trash.

Getting tired of everyone trying to put blame on 1 side or the other.

This absolutely was a team loss.

Both the offense and defense were playing great for the first 32 or so minutes.

The defense created 4 turnovers. The offense took advantage and scored 2 touchdowns on drives that needed less than 20 yards.

In the 2nd half the defense shit itself and the offense stopped moving the ball. After a 2nd INT from Abdullah the offense managed a 4 yard drive to kick a field goal.

You don't lose a ****ing 28 point lead in less than a half because of 1 side of the ball.

I ask you once again who are you getting to play QB?

I'm not blaming just the offense dumbass. If you think this was not a team loss you need help. The defense absolutely shit the bed but the offense scored 13 points the entire second half. come on man.

I'm bitching about the entire game. JFC some of you are just ****ing stupid.

I can't even engage this bullshit anymore. I'll agree to disagree.

ROFL

Brady Quinn is the next Len Dawson.

Oh there's a million reasons to complain. And none of them are on the offense. When you score 44 points in a game and lose, you know where to look. Giving a pass to a defense who was an open gaping hole the entire game, while picking apart a handful of offensive mistakes is really stupid. That's all it is, it's ignorant. You're either trolling, a stupid redneck, or a 17 year old Madden fanboy.

This team may regress offensively... but sitting here in this moment right now, all the people blaming the offense on this loss are stupid, miserable people. This place would be better off without them. It's pure ignorance. I'm done with it. If you don't want to be a dumbass, then don't be a dumbass.

@****ingIdiotfromBaltimore #AlexSmith isn't the only QB in the world there are other options

you do If that side of the ball is missing FG's(they didn't) screwing up on punt coverage(they didn't) or turning it over(once, to the colts 4)

its on the defense. period. and the coaching on the defensive side of the ball

So no answer cool.

The defensive ineptitude made it critical for the offense to be perfect, and they weren't. They were really, really good, with the best player out the entire game.

Now, could the offense have made a couple of extra plays to seal the win and save the D's ass? Of course. But perfection is a pretty hard standard in terms of assigning blame.

Here's to hoping Bowe can continue his play from last night into next season.

Who?

You're firmly in the camp of people who think that the only way to fill the position is with your high round draft pick.

Which is laughable.

Didn't happen last year.


Arguably, Foles outplayed Brees as well.

Only on a cap friendly deal in the Chiefs favor.

/thread, you won the internet.

Never said that Frank.
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Luck is a better QB than Smith, but I think the latter played as well if not better yesterday.

that's why I said 5 years 50 mil.

10 mil a year, is MODEST for a franchise qb.

There is no NEED to extend Alex Smith. Alex WANTS to be in KC and WANTS to be Andy Reids QB. There is no THREAT that he is leaving town, therefore there should be no hurry to toss him a bunch of money. He had a handful of good games this season, at least half of his games were garbage.

Quit being an idiot.

If he didn't win you over yesterday, you should probably just post how there's nothing he can do to make you an Alex Smith fan.

See the other thread on who wins when the defense gives up 45.

All that said, and being a Smith supporter, we only extend him at a decent price.

Hell I'm willing to overpay for him as long as the length is reasonable.

:facepalm:

You're right. We should wait until he has more weapons to work with, and the Chiefs have less leverage so we can pay him more next year.

And we are all the idiots. Right.

^ exactly

I'm not giving him 5 and 90. I'm giving him 3 at 35-36 on top of next year so it'd basically be 4 at 44.

No way Alex would take that.

so the difference in our thinking is 2 mil. Id prefer the years over the dollars.

As a fan, and im sure Alex would to.

Shit bump it to 4 at $48MM and call it good. Make it front loaded and easy to dump in 3 years if need be.

I think he'd take 12 million a year.

Guy has made his money in this league.

Alex wants to be shown loyalty. He CARES nothing about the dollar figure. He wants to be embraced by the franchise.

Just my opinion. But he has always shown that loyalty is much more important than MONEY.

The only QB in history to throw 4 TD and 0 INT and lose.

But it's the offense's fault.

Alex took a cheap deal once no way he does it again. Not after Cutler deal.

Another key is make it all guaranteed. 4 at $48MM and let it rip.

Yeah, I have no idea why Smith would do anything on the cheap right now. The team can dress up the deal with bullshit numbers, but the guaranteed dollars are not going to be at any discount.

Alex has proven all year that he would rather throw it too wide OB than take a chance. The ball was too far out, Bowe made a difficult catch.

We gave 2 seconds for him, we have no shot at any other QB worth a shit and he just had the best PO game in Chiefs QB history.......

He has us by the nutz.................

You need to consider not posting for a while.

Yep. Everyone is responsible when there is 35-6 run in the course of a game. You can't spin that shit.

You think JC (then Davis), Avery, and Flowers being hurt played a roll maybe?

I'm guessing an All Pro RB may be worth 3 -4 points.

Long term I don't know yesterday was not on him. I am only against the picks given up for him.

Jay Cutler- 7Y 126M 54M Guaranteed
Matt Stafford-3y 53m 45m Guaranteed
Matt Ryan- 5y 104m 59m Guaranteed



Alex wont be taking a cheap deal.

All i know is Charles scores at the 1. Davis got stopped 2 times.

If 1/04 Alex Smith is the player we're going to have moving forward, two second-rounders is ridiculously cheap compensation.

Cassel's masturbatory visions were never as imaginative or successful as Smith played yesterday.

By all accounts he has never been about money and willing to play for less. I'm thinking 3 for 42-45 is fair but it would end up being some goofy long deal where the money is spread out.

Giving one player that much money hurts the rest of the team. If Alex Smith is going to demand that, then let him go and take your chances with Bray or another unproven that can be an elite QB just waiting for his chance to play.

Check your PM's.

TEN YEARS, ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS

I'd agree, but you sure seem to be trying to spin it pretty hard.

He took the cheap deal because nobody wanted him. Lets don't sugar coat shit.

There is a reason everybody in the world was shocked how he played yesterday because that is not normal Alex Smith. If it was, Harbaugh wouldn't have gotten rid of him. SF wouldn't have went through a million head coaches. Let him play lights out next year and then pay him the big bucks.

That's the going rates for a QB.

ROFL

Pfft... That was Smiths fault/CP dunbasses

**** Alex Smith I don't curr if he had a good game or not. He isn't taking us to the Super Bowl.

Now that is pure bullshit. Alex was not down by 28 but was given 4 turnovers and a short field several times by the defense.

Yeah, the D sucked ass, but to say AS outplayed Luck is just a dumbass statement. Luck came back and won the damn game.

Is every n00b completely full of bloody red negative rep?

Looks to me the last 100 all have found a way to build up an impressive resume of work very quickly. LMAO

This is what I have always thought also.

No he's a ****ing ingnorant cock eating troll and he is looking for a bag of dicks

Alex Smith played lights out. What Chiefs QB has played better in the playoffs? Bet you can't list more two after Lenny the Cool....

Sure. Like I said there is plenty of blame to go around being outscored 35-6 in less than a half. I'd like to think even with a few guys out we could do a little better than 35-6 in 28 minutes of football.

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This is how a leader, and a winner handles adversity.

How can anyone not embrace this guy, is beyond me. This is a MAN right here folks.

1. Gray slowed down. Not Smith's fault.

2. The fumble was his fault, but also a great play by the defender.

3. The grounding call made absolutely no difference to the game. If he had taken a sack we would have still had the loss of down and loss of yards. Meaningless penalty, nothing to bitch about at all.

4. The throw to Bowe was good, Bowe didn't get his foot in because he was pushed out.

No you don't. You assign blame to those that deserve it. Alex Smith did not lose that game yesterday, and doesn't deserve blame.

44 points, 380 yards passing, 57 yards rushing, 4 TDs and no interceptions. What more should a QB have to do?

Now that the 2-2nd round picks are already spent, and you are drafting well in the back half of the draft, you might as well sign Alex for a few years until you can find and groom your franchise QB. It is unlikely to be Bray, but who knows at this point. You could do a lot worse than Alex, and it is not like it costs you draft picks going forward.

Kaep > Rodgers?

Sure.
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LMAO

Some people are never going to be satisfied, and you're crazy if the idea that he didn't step up and have his best in our most meaningful game of this year and the last couple years for the Chiefs organization.



Completions:30
Passes Attempted: 46

Completion %:65.2%

Passing Yards:378

Yds/Pa:8.2

Passing touchdowns:4

Int: 0
FBL: 1

QB Rating:119.7

Rushing Yards:57
Rushing touchdowns: 0

Total Yards: 435



44 points.
30 1st downs.
Time of Possession: 37:33

Ya, he's to blame! ? :banghead:

Time to build around him. Nice win for the 49ers today. Congrats!

Just wait until he signs the 5-year, $70M deal in late January….

Yep, thats how I see it too. I think at worst, Alex Smith is roughly average, and could be a little above average. He's worth extending at a reasonable price, but we should still look for a good QB prospect to watch, hold the clipboard, and learn. If not this draft, then certainly the draft after that.

I think he deserves to be the Chiefs QB for the foreseeable future, 3 year deal most likely.

I think he's good enough to get them to a SB and win