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Wilson8 01-20-2014 02:04 PM

Riley Cooper – His catch rate was not that good for his first 3 years in the NFL, but then he did not get that many opportunities. I think he might be a player that will continue to improve with experience.

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6’3”, 222 pounds – 5th round pick of Philadelphia Eagles in 2010, 4.53 40 time.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2010&genpos=WR
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2013 57% catch rate, 8 TDs, 47/83 passes, 835 yards -
2012 48% catch rate, 3 TDs, 23/48 passes, 248 yards
2011 46% catch rate, 1 TD, 16/35 passes, 215 yards
2010 39% catch rate, 1 TD, 7/18 passes, 116 yards
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr
I would think that the Eagles would try and keep him. Any player that KC signs will probably have to be club friendly contracts at least for 2014.

DeezNutz 01-20-2014 02:05 PM

Maclin has great hands and is tough as shit, as well as providing the ability to stretch the field.

Add him and legit. option at TE, and this offense, seemingly, is loaded.

Asinine to claim that acquiring Maclin would be a bad or even uninspiring move.

mcaj22 01-20-2014 02:10 PM

Maclin's "great hands" is kind of fools gold

his drop rate is on par with Bowe and Avery

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Over his career Maclin has dropped one in ten of the balls that were deemed catchable. In 2012 (his last season) that percentage was actually 11.7%. As a point of comparison, since PFF has been keeping stats, Dwayne Bowe has dropped 11.5% of his catchable passes and Donnie Avery has dropped 12.1% of his. So the numbers say that Maclin wouldn’t be much of an upgrade (if any) over their current WRs in terms of drops.
He's a gloried better version of Avery and people on this board like him cause he will work over the middle.

DeezNutz 01-20-2014 02:15 PM

Difficult and subjective statistic. If we factor in drop rate, we're going to criticize the likes of Johnson, Marshall, etc.

-King- 01-20-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 10382696)
I would take Cooper over Maclin in a heartbeat.

Cooper seems more of the Alex Smith type than Maclin.

Wut? Are people serious?

This is Cooper's first season with over 315 yards. Maclin's worst season was 773 yards!

Discuss Thrower 01-20-2014 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10382886)
Maclin's "great hands" is kind of fools gold

his drop rate is on par with Bowe and Avery



He's a gloried better version of Avery and people on this board like him cause he will work over the middle.

Definitely do not want if that's the case then.

Easy 6 01-20-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10382878)
This. What is so hard to understand about this? We'd get a proven vet in the very system we're running on the cheap. Yeah, he may be rusty at first, but that's what training camp and preseason is for, no?

Bowe, Maclin, McCluster, Jenkins, and a rookie could make a formidable group, especially considering how the offense evolved towards the end of the season. It certainly would be the strongest that group has been in years upon years.

Agreed 100%

And the people against this move are a definite minority.

Wilson8 01-20-2014 02:33 PM

No Macklin is better with catch rate...

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Jeremy Maclin –
6’0”, 198 pounds – 1st round pick of Philadelphia Eagles in 2009, 4.45 40 time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Maclin
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2013 - July 27, 2013, Maclin suffered a torn ACL during training camp. Out 2013 season.
2012 56% catch rate, 7 TDs, 68/121 passes, 856 yards
2011 65% catch rate, 5 TD, 63/97 passes, 859 yards
2010 61% catch rate, 10 TDs, 70/115 passes, 964 yards
2009 62% catch rate, 4 TDs, 56/91 passes, 773 yards
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/.../jeremy-maclin

-King- 01-20-2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10382886)
Maclin's "great hands" is kind of fools gold

his drop rate is on par with Bowe and Avery



He's a gloried better version of Avery and people on this board like him cause he will work over the middle.

While we're at it...let's not try to get any of these other WRs

http://i.imgur.com/LkmerPh.png

kepp 01-20-2014 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10382938)
While we're at it...let's not try to get any of these other WRs

http://i.imgur.com/LkmerPh.png

What a list of suck!

Bowser 01-20-2014 02:38 PM

Calvin Johnson with a 10.29 drop rate. ****ing bust.

-King- 01-20-2014 02:43 PM

PFF might be the worst thing to happen to football statistics.

jkw87 01-20-2014 02:48 PM

[QUOTE=-King-;10382938]While we're at it...let's not try to get any of these other WRs

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I didn't imagine Avery 's drop rate was that high in Indy. Damn

mcaj22 01-20-2014 02:49 PM

I understand what you guys are saying, with PFF being shitty and #1 WRs dropping a lot of balls, I am just pointing out for a forum that was pissing and crying the entire 2013 season at Avery and Bowe dropping key passes in games this year, you guys have a hard on for another WR that is pretty much similar in dropping passes. That's it.

And he's not Calvin Johnson. So trying to compare a talent like that dropping balls to Jeremy Maclin is like saying Lebron James misses as many layups and Kris Humphries

Ebolapox 01-20-2014 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 10382187)
I almost guarantee he's in a Chiefs uniform next year. He's an Andy Reid guy and he's gonna want to surround Alex with a guy he knows can produce.

Plus we'll get him cheap because he respects where he stands ATM.

what is his stance on ATM?

BossChief 01-20-2014 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 10383029)
what is his stance on ATM?

From the op

"He has admitted that he may have to take a discounted contract or a one-year deal to prove himself following that big of an injury."

O.city 01-20-2014 03:22 PM

I think he refuses ass to mouth aka ATM so the question is, knowing that, do you still want him

Bowser 01-20-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 10383029)
what is his stance on ATM?

He thinks Johnny Manziel is way overrated.

Ebolapox 01-20-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10383043)
I think he refuses ass to mouth aka ATM so the question is, knowing that, do you still want him

Jeremy Maclin: YOU NEVER GO ASS TO MOUTH
Chiefs: sometimes, in the heat of the moment, it's forgivable to go ass to mouth
Jeremy Maclin: YOU NEVER GO ASS TO MOUTH

-King- 01-20-2014 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10383039)
From the op

"He has admitted that he may have to take a discounted contract or a one-year deal to prove himself following that big of an injury."

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/upload...r-Trek-Gif.gif

duncan_idaho 01-20-2014 03:46 PM

I'm as big a Jeremy Maclin fan as you will find. He's a great guy who works extremely hard and has overcome a lot of bad situations and breaks.

If the price is right, and you can get him at a discount - the incentive-based deal with the big roster bonus at the start of year 2 sounds like a good plan to me - it's a slam dunk.

I really have no doubt that he'll come back strong from this injury. He just works too hard not to come back strong.

Wouldn't put all eggs in the Maclin basket - would still add a WR or TE in the draft - but it could be a nice, underrated FA signing with big-time upside.

BradBigglestein 01-20-2014 03:48 PM

My Jeremy Maclin scouting report:

Faster in college than he is in the NFL. Hasn't shown the game-changing explosiveness or speed in the NFL.

Hasn't had any major NFL injuries other than the ACL(tore up his knee in college also, though so that should be a minor concern) but always seems to get shaken up in games. It seems like every game he's always writhing in pain from what looks like routine tackles , then he has to miss a couple plays. Might not be a big deal, but when it happens constantly, it starts to get a tad irritating.

Not an overly big receiver, but uses his body pretty well for his size.

Finds ways to get open in the red zone for TDs.

Pretty good hands


I want the Eagles to keep him, and he'd be a nice addition to the Chiefs, but I would not go crazy for him. He's yet to "break out" and prove that he is more than a #2 receiver in the NFL.

Just Passin' By 01-20-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10382255)
People saying they wouldn't want him are probably going to be proven smart in the end, unless the deal is extremely team friendly.
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FYP

TLO 01-20-2014 04:01 PM

I'm tired of having "#2 receivers".

I want a GOD DAMN #1 reciever.

Sure-Oz 01-20-2014 04:04 PM

Add a WR and TE through the draft and add Maclin

Easy 6 01-20-2014 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BradBigglestein (Post 10383076)
My Jeremy Maclin scouting report:

Faster in college than he is in the NFL. Hasn't shown the game-changing explosiveness or speed in the NFL.

Hasn't had any major NFL injuries other than the ACL(tore up his knee in college also, though so that should be a minor concern) but always seems to get shaken up in games. It seems like every game he's always writhing in pain from what looks like routine tackles , then he has to miss a couple plays. Might not be a big deal, but when it happens constantly, it starts to get a tad irritating.

Not an overly big receiver, but uses his body pretty well for his size.

Finds ways to get open in the red zone for TDs.

Pretty good hands


I want the Eagles to keep him, and he'd be a nice addition to the Chiefs, but I would not go crazy for him. He's yet to "break out" and prove that he is more than a #2 receiver in the NFL.

Yeah, his numbers so far dont bear him out as a #1... I think the main reasons most of us want him here are

a) solid speed

b) knows the system

c) will be reasonable with contract demands

BradBigglestein 01-20-2014 04:22 PM

Forgot to add that Maclin is also a very willing and capable blocker. It may not mean much to your average fan, but coaches like it.

Sorter 01-20-2014 04:48 PM

LMAOLMAOLMAO
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Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 10383029)
what is his stance on ATM?


Rausch 01-20-2014 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 10383029)
what is his stance on ATM?

GF only - you divorce that bitch if she pulls that after the honeymoon...

O.city 01-20-2014 05:26 PM

If you can't get your hands on a surefire #1, might as well load up on #2/fringe 1 guys. Bowe, Maclin, etc.

O.city 01-20-2014 05:30 PM

Add Maclin, then take Brandin Cooks in the 3rd round.

RunKC 01-20-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10383306)
Add Maclin, then take Brandin Cooks in the 3rd round.

Cooks will be gone by then. You're looking at Jared Abbredderis and Donte Moncrief in the 3rd IMO.

O.city 01-20-2014 05:49 PM

I wish we still had a 2nd round pick, thats where Cooks would be a great pick.

Sannyasi 01-20-2014 05:54 PM

I like the idea of signing Maclin and drafting another receiver. We obviously need to get more production from the WR position this season and there's no reason to put all of our eggs in one basket.

Rausch 01-20-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 10383371)
I like the idea of signing Maclin and drafting another receiver. We obviously need to get more production from the WR position this season and there's no reason to put all of our eggs in one basket.

This team clearly did not believe in the "next man up" philosophy.

We had injuries all year and definitely in the playoffs but when back ups produced they didn't get more touches.

Guys like Hemingway and Jenkins produced when targeted.

Though I held my breath every time he touched the ball every time he was asked to come in Davis balled.

Abdullah was big.

I'm not saying we should make these guys starters but if if they get 20 snaps and produce give them 35...

Sannyasi 01-20-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10383387)
This team clearly did not believe in the "next man up" philosophy.

We had injuries all year and definitely in the playoffs but when back ups produced they didn't get more touches.

Guys like Hemingway and Jenkins produced when targeted.

Though I held my breath every time he touched the ball every time he was asked to come in Davis balled.

Abdullah was big.

I'm not saying we should make these guys starters but if if they get 20 snaps and produce give them 35...

You have a point. Considering the guys we had in front of them, Hemingway and Jenkins probably should have gotten more playing time.

Messier 01-20-2014 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10383361)
I wish we still had a 2nd round pick, thats where Cooks would be a great pick.

I was worth it.

mikey23545 01-20-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BradBigglestein (Post 10383076)
My Jeremy Maclin scouting report:

Faster in college than he is in the NFL. Hasn't shown the game-changing explosiveness or speed in the NFL.

Hasn't had any major NFL injuries other than the ACL(tore up his knee in college also, though so that should be a minor concern) but always seems to get shaken up in games. It seems like every game he's always writhing in pain from what looks like routine tackles , then he has to miss a couple plays. Might not be a big deal, but when it happens constantly, it starts to get a tad irritating.

Not an overly big receiver, but uses his body pretty well for his size.

Finds ways to get open in the red zone for TDs.

Pretty good hands


I want the Eagles to keep him, and he'd be a nice addition to the Chiefs, but I would not go crazy for him. He's yet to "break out" and prove that he is more than a #2 receiver in the NFL.


Oh! Branden Albert Syndrome!

|Zach| 01-20-2014 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 10382696)
I would take Cooper over Maclin in a heartbeat.

Cooper seems more of the Alex Smith type than Maclin.

Get out of here with that bullshit.


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