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TEX 05-06-2014 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10604215)
I don't think David ever got over the shell shock. He might have developed into a better QB if Boselli had been able to play and that O-line had been even halfway decent.

Yep. That and had he not been elevated to the Day 1 starter. The plan was for them to sign Rob Johnson as the starter and Carr would be the backup until he was ready. Deal is Johnson agreed in principle to a deal, but opted to re-sign with Buffalo at the last minute, when he was given assurances that he would be the starter. Charlie Casserly, one of the worst GM's on the planet, decided to go with a rookie QB and a terrible OL. Not wise...

TEX 05-06-2014 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10603869)
Being the best of a crappy class is pretty worthless.

Yep. Its like being the smartest reerun.

BigMeatballDave 05-06-2014 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 3rd&48ers (Post 10603161)
Not a chance in hell for a 30 yr old QB

Really? LMAO

Simply Red 05-06-2014 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10603188)
THIS !!!!!!!


:whackit:



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Simply Red 05-06-2014 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10603537)
Aaron Murray can't beat good defenses.

Yup - I GUARANTEE you - the Chiefs somehow land Aaron Murray. watch...

planetdoc 05-06-2014 06:46 AM

Possibility that Chiefs could draft a quarterback is nothing new
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Originally Posted by TEREZ A. PAYLOR
Over the past few days, ESPN’s Chris Mortensen and NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport — a pair of respected national reporters — caused a bit of a stir by saying the Chiefs could be interested in drafting a quarterback.

I wrote about this possibility well over a week ago in my quarterback story for our NFL Draft preview series, and I also covered it in my draft primer in Sunday’s Star.

The reason I’ve written about this is because I do believe it’s possible the Chiefs will take a quarterback in the first round of the NFL Draft on Thursday. I believe Andy Reid and offensive coordinator Doug Pedersen can absolutely get the most out of the likes of Teddy Bridgewater, Johnny Manziel or Derek Carr, and by drafting one of them, there’s a potential for enormous cap savings there over the next four years. Alex Smith was very good last year, but he will sign a lucrative extension if he returns.

But is it likely the Chiefs will take a quarterback? I believe it isn’t. Like it or not, the Chiefs surrendered two very valuable second-round picks for Smith. If they draft a quarterback in the first round, it’s essentially a waste of both picks. That’s why I believe it’s more likely the Chiefs will take a quarterback in the mid-to-late rounds. Like I’ve been writing, someone like Aaron Murray fits the Chiefs’ offense.

I also wouldn’t be surprised to see the Chiefs orchestrate some sort of draft-day trade. But I believe it’s far more likely they trade down than trade up. They only have six picks in a deep draft and they have plenty of holes. Trading up would likely require them to give up their third-round pick. I think they’ll be trying to acquire more top-100 picks, not give them up.

Remember guys, this is draft week. That means smokescreens abound. The Chiefs’ interest in a quarterback could also be tied to a desire to put pressure on the Smith camp to agree to an extension and/or entice quarterback-needy teams in the second round to trade with them or ahead of them. Either way, the Chiefs win. If the Chiefs swing a trade down, they get extra picks. If a team trades ahead of them, a player at another position falls. The Chiefs would take either.


planetdoc 05-06-2014 06:50 AM

A quarterback for the Chiefs?
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Originally Posted by Adam Teicher
If the Kansas City Chiefs believe a quarterback is the best player available to them when they pick 23rd in the first round of the NFL draft on Thursday, then they should take him. Absolutely. I'm signing on to that idea here and now. It's never a bad idea to draft a quarterback, if the team that selects him truly believes he will eventually become a great one.

It's a horrible idea to draft one for any other reason, even need. This is precisely why it's troubling if the Chiefs are considering selecting a quarterback in the first round, which according to Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network, they are. Negotiations with starting quarterback Alex Smith on a long-term contract extension aren't going well and, Rapoport says, the Chiefs would consider drafting Smith's replacement because of it.

I'm having trouble getting my arms around this one. One minute the Chiefs consider Smith their long-term solution at quarterback and they want to sign him to the extension, as chairman Clark Hunt has said. The next they're ready to find his successor?

This isn't how Hunt, general manager John Dorsey and coach Andy Reid wanted to operate the Chiefs. They have a long-term plan they will adjust as they see fit, but not because they're having trouble signing a key player 10 months before he's scheduled to become a free agent.

That type of move smells not of anything in a long-term plan, but of panic. Make no mistake, if the Chiefs draft a quarterback based on what they believe will be a need next year, that's a panic move. They made a commitment to Smith by trading for him last year and they're ready to scrap him at the first sign of trouble?

And if they panic on this, it follows the Chiefs will panic on other things to come. If they do that, don't plan on another Super Bowl for the Chiefs for a lot of years to come.

No, the Chiefs need to continue to build their team the best way they see fit, regardless of where they are in their negotiations with Smith. If a quarterback is available to the Chiefs on Thursday, they should take him if they believe he's going to be great.

If not and he's merely Plan B in case they can't re-sign Smith, forget about it. Move on to another player at another position.


notorious 05-06-2014 07:21 AM

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And if they panic on this, it follows the Chiefs will panic on other things to come. If they do that, don't plan on another Super Bowl for the Chiefs for a lot of years to come.
This is so hilarious I had to quote it in both threads.

BossChief 05-06-2014 07:23 AM

I laughed when I read that, too.

suzzer99 05-07-2014 01:21 PM

http://i60.tinypic.com/29nc5mo.jpg

ToxSocks 05-07-2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 10607405)

Oh, hey!

Thanks for kicking me in the nuts, asshole.

ToxSocks 05-07-2014 01:25 PM

JFC that is a painful graphic....

SeeingRed 05-07-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 10604179)
Siting? or Citing?

sorry Mrs. Englishteacher :huh:

Dayze 05-07-2014 01:38 PM

uggg. that graphic.

The Franchise 05-07-2014 01:43 PM

God damnt.....that's like getting hit in the head with a shovel.

SeeingRed 05-07-2014 01:44 PM

Just saw this on some site….not that I agree but found it interesting. Bridgewater to sit and learn a year? There is something about him i like but just seems like such a giant step down from Smith. and we need a WR, OG and Safety :-/


23. Kansas City Chiefs

The Pick: Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville

Eliot Shorr-Parks, NJ.com: Chiefs head coach Andy Reid loves quarterbacks who can extend plays with their legs, as evident by his infatuation with Michael Vick during his final years in Philadelphia. Bridgewater gets a chance to sit for a year before he takes over the job from Alex Smith, who is a free agent after this season. Reid loves to develop quarterbacks, and he gets a player with all the tools in Bridgewater to work with.

http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2...ide_recei.html

SeeingRed 05-07-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10607466)
God damnt.....that's like getting hit in the head with a shovel.

lol

The Franchise 05-07-2014 01:49 PM

Marino was drafted in 1983.

notorious 05-07-2014 02:12 PM

That chart must show wins by the QB's on other teams because there is no way Atlanta has that many wins in 30 years.


Favre must have skewed that one.

Discuss Thrower 05-07-2014 02:20 PM

No Cleveland..?

Dayze 05-07-2014 02:26 PM

Carl really screwed the pooch in '83

RealSNR 05-07-2014 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10607567)
That chart must show wins by the QB's on other teams because there is no way Atlanta has that many wins in 30 years.


Favre must have skewed that one.

I don't know about that. They drafted Steve Bartkowski, Chris Miller, David Archer, Michael Vick, and Matt Ryan. Basically the only extended period where they weren't primarily starting their own QB was in the Chris Chandler years. And I think Jeff George did some shit for them at some point briefly, too.

BryanBusby 05-07-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10607567)
That chart must show wins by the QB's on other teams because there is no way Atlanta has that many wins in 30 years.


Favre must have skewed that one.

Well they drafted Favre, so........

notorious 05-07-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 10607688)
Well they drafted Favre, so........

Exactly my point.


Elway and Peyton's wins would go under Indy's win total.

notorious 05-07-2014 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10607687)
I don't know about that. They drafted Steve Bartkowski, Chris Miller, David Archer, Michael Vick, and Matt Ryan. Basically the only extended period where they weren't primarily starting their own QB was in the Chris Chandler years. And I think Jeff George did some shit for them at some point briefly, too.

Atlanta hasn't averaged 12.9 wins a year for 30 years.

temper11 05-07-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10603198)
The problem now is that, at least until the Chiefs on the clock, anybody who wants a QB thinks they're going to have to go over us. So if anybody worth a shit falls, we've basically just helped all the teams that pick in front of us in their negotiations.

Which gives legitimacy to the argument that we are wanting a QB needy team to take the bait, trade in front of us to grab the falling QB, which potentially allows the WR we want fall to us. Seems like a stretch to me but these guys make a living on predicting how these things will play out.

Lex Luthor 05-07-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10607619)
Carl really screwed the pooch in '83

Jack Steadman

Dayze 05-07-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 10607849)
Jack Steadman

:evil:

Kaepernick 05-07-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 10607405)

No wonder you guys are on suicide watch...

boogblaster 05-07-2014 08:32 PM

Reid wanted a one year run with a lite schedule .. bout pulled it off ...

planetdoc 05-07-2014 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 10608568)
Reid wanted a one year run with a lite schedule .. bout pulled it off ...

pulled off a playoff win? agree, almost.
pulled off anymore? probably not. Just about every other team would have killed the chiefs.

BossChief 05-07-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10608589)
pulled off a playoff win? agree, almost.
pulled off anymore? probably not. Just about every other team would have killed the chiefs.

Bullshit.


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