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Iowanian 03-06-2015 10:57 AM

Life Ain't fair is the first Sturgil Simpson song I stumbled across. That very video, about 15 seconds into it I said "oh shit...this is awesome"...

In58men 03-06-2015 10:59 AM

He's coming to the Crystal Palace here in Bakersfield. I called to get tickets. Boom sold out. I was pissed.

Strongside 03-06-2015 11:05 AM

Saw he's playing Red Rocks with Avett Brothers on July 11th. That would be an awesome show.

NewChief 03-06-2015 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 11364115)
Saw he's playing Red Rocks with Avett Brothers on July 11th. That would be an awesome show.

That run is sick. Avetts for 3 nights at Red Rocks. First night with Lake Street Drive. Second with Sturgill. Third with John Prine. My wife and I were talking about going out, as I have a buddy who can get great seats for all RR shows and knows the Avetts, but we're going to be in Florida on vacation during those dates.

Strongside 03-06-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 11364134)
That run is sick. Avetts for 3 nights at Red Rocks. First night with Lake Street Drive. Second with Sturgill. Third with John Prine. My wife and I were talking about going out, as I have a buddy who can get great seats for all RR shows and knows the Avetts, but we're going to be in Florida on vacation during those dates.

I will have just gotten back from the Grateful Dead farewell shows in Chicago, so I'll probably have had my fill of concert travel by then...but I'd totally go if not.

Strongside 03-04-2016 11:29 AM

New Sturgill track released yesterday!

Pretty awesome. Little classic Rock, little Dwight Yoakum, whole lotta kickass.

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Iowanian 03-04-2016 11:42 AM

I liked it. Every Album Simpson puts out has a different sound.

Dunit35 03-04-2016 02:03 PM

What's everyone think of Chris Stapleton? Heard him live, working security last year. He's really taken off in the music industry. He has that real country music sound.

Toby Waller 03-04-2016 02:28 PM

If there is hope for country music,I'll never know.I never listen

Iowanian 03-04-2016 02:55 PM

Chris Stapleton is legit.

Smellypits is not.

Kman34 03-04-2016 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 12113533)
What's everyone think of Chris Stapleton? Heard him live, working security last year. He's really taken off in the music industry. He has that real country music sound.

Chris is great... I'll post some YouTube videos when I get home...

Strongside 03-04-2016 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by smellypitts (Post 12113591)
If there is hope for country music,I'll never know.I never listen

Thanks for the update, friend.

No one cares.

gblowfish 03-04-2016 03:58 PM

Sturgill Simpson plays Wed May 11th in OKC. Who schedules a concert in Oklahoma in the middle of tornado season???

eDave 03-04-2016 04:00 PM

Rabblerouser's band is better.

Kman34 03-04-2016 05:16 PM

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lewdog 08-21-2017 09:18 PM

Still dig the shit out of Sturgill.

A Sailor's Guide to earth was pretty decent. I thought the Nirvana cover of In Bloom was good.

Hoping he's got something planned for 2018.

Pablo 08-21-2017 09:23 PM

I've listened to a ton of Sturgill the past couple of years. I ****ing love A Sailor's Guide as an album. It's something that took me 5 or 6 full listens to really dig but it's my favorite work of his. A country concept album with a sprinkling of fusion and grunge and whatever the **** else he decided to do. A lot of the lyrics resonate very well with me having my first born son in the last year as well. All around fan.

Cornstock 08-21-2017 09:40 PM

This is what country was supposed to be. For real America. Before country tried to appeal to the coasts. The kind of country that city people don't understand. This is the real s***.

Buehler445 08-21-2017 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornstock (Post 13029699)
This is what country was supposed to be. For real America. Before country tried to appeal to the coasts. The kind of country that city people don't understand. This is the real s***.

It's not the coasts as much as ****head teenagers. Christ the nonsense coming out of Nashville is abysmal. I want to punch Luke Bryant in his stupid face.

Buehler445 08-21-2017 10:50 PM

I'm still a big Turnpike Troubadours fan.

Highly recommend for anyone looking for something different in country.

rockymtnchief 08-22-2017 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13029769)
I'm still a big Turnpike Troubadours fan.

Highly recommend for anyone looking for something different in country.

I've seen them twice in the last 5 months. The last time was a month ago with Shooter Jennings. Good stuff.

Iowanian 08-22-2017 08:36 AM

Turnpike has a new album coming out I think in October.


Sturgill said a few years ago that he was making 3 more albums and falling off of the earth. I believe that was 2 albums ago. I hope he makes a new one soon and then changes his mind about the original statement.

nicksdad 08-22-2017 08:51 AM

saw sturgill two years ago at ACL and he was great. his band rocks. check out margo price too. she writes her own stuff , is smart, and also has a great band

DaneMcCloud 08-22-2017 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornstock (Post 13029699)
This is what country was supposed to be. For real America. Before country tried to appeal to the coasts. The kind of country that city people don't understand. This is the real s***.

Oh, puhleese.

Nashville isn't concerned with people in Seattle, San Fran, Los Angeles, Portland, etc.

Nashville is SO preprogrammed it's freaking unbelievable. They produce music that sells to their core audience.

End of story.

DaneMcCloud 08-22-2017 09:06 AM

Have any of you guys heard of "Hick Hop"?

I was asked to do a 12 song Hick Hop album for a prominent library just last week. I'll write all of the music and perform all of the instruments while they'll have a "Beatz" guy provide all of the Hip Hop style drums.

They said it's a huge emerging genre. Any thoughts?

Iowanian 08-22-2017 10:56 AM

barf.

The "industry" has already ruined country music twice. Don't let them F with Red dirt.

gblowfish 08-22-2017 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13030007)
Have any of you guys heard of "Hick Hop"?

I was asked to do a 12 song Hick Hop album for a prominent library just last week. I'll write all of the music and perform all of the instruments while they'll have a "Beatz" guy provide all of the Hip Hop style drums.

They said it's a huge emerging genre. Any thoughts?

Yee Haw, MFer....

ghak99 08-22-2017 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13030007)
Have any of you guys heard of "Hick Hop"?

I was asked to do a 12 song Hick Hop album for a prominent library just last week. I'll write all of the music and perform all of the instruments while they'll have a "Beatz" guy provide all of the Hip Hop style drums.

They said it's a huge emerging genre. Any thoughts?

It's mostly pollution.

It does however cross racial/financial boundaries and has been a big hit with the small town trailer park Meth kids for years. It's only the last few years it seems to have caught on with the suburban white kids and even the African American kids. ...which seems strange considering half the original hits had their videos drowning in stars and bars and the occasional not so hidden racial slur.

This is the current "popular" song some of the help is torturing me with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B45AGRIEOxM

DaneMcCloud 08-22-2017 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 13030296)
It's mostly pollution.

Interesting. The example I was given had acoustic guitars, mandolins and banjos playing traditional Country with Hip Hop beats underneath.

ghak99 08-22-2017 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13030301)
Interesting. The example I was given had acoustic guitars, mandolins and banjos playing traditional Country with Hip Hop beats underneath.

Something like Big Smo's - Movin' on Up?

I find it an interesting mix of sound every time they play it.

stevieray 08-22-2017 03:28 PM

Eagles came out today, good chance they'd be country...

"The radio won't play George and Merle"

/Don Henley

lewdog 08-22-2017 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13030005)
Oh, puhleese.

Nashville isn't concerned with people in Seattle, San Fran, Los Angeles, Portland, etc.

Nashville is SO preprogrammed it's freaking unbelievable. They produce music that sells to their core audience.

End of story.

This is what's wrong with country music.

Big swinging dick Hollywood types like Dane ruin it for the real country boys like me.

DaneMcCloud 08-22-2017 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 13030545)
This is what's wrong with country music.

Big swinging dick Hollywood types like Dane ruin it for the real country boys like me.

LMAO

The blame lies with Tony Brown

DaneMcCloud 08-22-2017 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 13030536)
Eagles came out today, good chance they'd be country...

"The radio won't play George and Merle"

/Don Henley

Early Eagles albums were definitely a pre-cursor to Modern Country and by the 90's, nearly every major Country artist sounded like either the Eagles or Skynyrd.

I haven't paid attention to country in a long, long time but I prefer "real" country music, not polished, over produced "Country" music.

stevieray 08-22-2017 03:35 PM

funny, now that I think about it...my middle daughter kind of looks like Shania Twain.

...gonna go watch her sing to Willie.

stevieray 08-22-2017 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13030553)
Early Eagles albums were definitely a pre-cursor to Modern Country and by the 90's, nearly every major Country artist sounded like either the Eagles or Skynyrd.

I haven't paid attention to country in a long, long time but I prefer "real" country music, not polished, over produced "Country" music.

:clap:

DJ's left nut 08-22-2017 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13030553)
Early Eagles albums were definitely a pre-cursor to Modern Country and by the 90's, nearly every major Country artist sounded like either the Eagles or Skynyrd.

I haven't paid attention to country in a long, long time but I prefer "real" country music, not polished, over produced "Country" music.

There's such a clear delineation between 'pre-Walsh' and 'Walsh' Eagles that they're hardly the same band, IMO.

Though they had taken something of an adult contemporary turn right before Leadon left.

Their first few albums though, yeah - that's pretty much straight up 'modern' country.

stevieray 08-22-2017 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13030573)
There's such a clear delineation between 'pre-Walsh' and 'Walsh' Eagles that they're hardly the same band, IMO.

Though they had taken something of an adult contemporary turn right before Leadon left.

Their first few albums though, yeah - that's pretty much straight up 'modern' country.

:harumph:

DaneMcCloud 08-22-2017 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13030573)
There's such a clear delineation between 'pre-Walsh' and 'Walsh' Eagles that they're hardly the same band, IMO.

Absolutely. That was borne out of Glenn Frey's desire to become a "Rock" band as well as ditching Glyn Johns as their producer.

Hotel California and The Long Run are great albums but Joe Walsh and Tim Schmidt really changed their sound from the early days, which I prefer.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13030573)
Their first few albums though, yeah - that's pretty much straight up 'modern' country.

Along with the Flying Burrito Brothers, Rick Nelson and Linda Ronstadt, the Eagles created a genre that has been honed to perfection by Nashville and Tony Brown.

It comes across as sterile and phone to me.

Reerun_KC 08-22-2017 04:16 PM

Cody Johnson.... Like his style.

lewdog 08-22-2017 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 13029975)
Turnpike has a new album coming out I think in October.


Sturgill said a few years ago that he was making 3 more albums and falling off of the earth. I believe that was 2 albums ago. I hope he makes a new one soon and then changes his mind about the original statement.

Turnpike dropping new album on October 20th.

Not that I'm keeping track!

Also, they toured about every western state except AZ. I am still ****ing pissed!

stevieray 08-22-2017 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13030615)
Absolutely. That was borne out of Glenn Frey's desire to become a "Rock" band as well as ditching Glyn Johns as their producer.

Hotel California and The Long Run are great albums but Joe Walsh and Tim Schmidt really changed their sound from the early days, which I prefer.



Along with the Flying Burrito Brothers, Rick Nelson and Linda Ronstadt, the Eagles created a genre that has been honed to perfection by Nashville and Tony Brown.

It comes across as sterile and phone to me.

yup, and a lot people don't know about that early connection to Ronstadt.

remember the Nelson Brothers?

doomy3 08-22-2017 06:28 PM

There's a ton of really great country music right now, but none of it gets played on radio. Here are a few of my current favorites, some of whom have been mentioned in this thread.

Sturgill
Cody Jinks
Whitey Morgan and the 78s
Ward Davis
Turnpike Troubadurs
Whiskey Myers
Blackberry Smoke
Colter Wall
Paul Cauthen
John Moreland
Ryan Bingham
Brent Cobb
Tyler Childers

Cornstock 08-23-2017 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13030005)
Oh, puhleese.

Nashville isn't concerned with people in Seattle, San Fran, Los Angeles, Portland, etc.

Nashville is SO preprogrammed it's freaking unbelievable. They produce music that sells to their core audience.

End of story.

Who is it that is the core audience that's buying all that garbage? Is it the teenagers like Buehler said?

eDave 08-23-2017 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cornstock (Post 13031718)
Who is it that is the core audience that's buying all that garbage? Is it the teenagers like Buehler said?

Chicks. Then the poor saps who are dating them have to like it or they won't get laid.

I suspect most are Trumpers. That band of misfit toys are either country or GWAR (or some shit) fans.

tatorhog 08-23-2017 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13030007)
Have any of you guys heard of "Hick Hop"?

I was asked to do a 12 song Hick Hop album for a prominent library just last week. I'll write all of the music and perform all of the instruments while they'll have a "Beatz" guy provide all of the Hip Hop style drums.

They said it's a huge emerging genre. Any thoughts?

My kid digs this, at least what I think you are talking about.

like Joe Diffie with Jawga Boyz?

tatorhog 08-23-2017 09:18 AM

I'm sad there is no love for Wheeler Walker in the country come-back thread.

DaneMcCloud 08-23-2017 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cornstock (Post 13031718)
Who is it that is the core audience that's buying all that garbage? Is it the teenagers like Buehler said?

Country music radio is the #2 genre in the US among 18-24 year olds but Country Music purchasers are, on average, 45 year old adults split fairly evenly among men and women (52%-48%).

Rap has surpassed Rock and Country as the overall #1 genre.

Sandy Vagina 08-23-2017 11:37 AM

To each his own, but rap is awful. Country was good decades ago, but gave up on it in this one.

Alan Jackson, Clint Black, George Jones, Travis Tritt, Ronnie Milsap, Confederate Railroad, Tracey Lawrence, George Strait, Aaron Tippen, Joe Diffie, Hank Jr, and more...

Them's the days I enjoyed some sad, drinking Country tunes. Maybe it's come around these days, but too busy listening to the older stuff when it's music time.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/32df5fbcb...oly3o1_400.gif

Buehler445 08-23-2017 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 13030296)
It's mostly pollution.

It does however cross racial/financial boundaries and has been a big hit with the small town trailer park Meth kids for years. It's only the last few years it seems to have caught on with the suburban white kids and even the African American kids. ...which seems strange considering half the original hits had their videos drowning in stars and bars and the occasional not so hidden racial slur.

This is the current "popular" song some of the help is torturing me with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B45AGRIEOxM

Holy shit that makes me want to club baby seals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13030553)
Early Eagles albums were definitely a pre-cursor to Modern Country and by the 90's, nearly every major Country artist sounded like either the Eagles or Skynyrd.

I haven't paid attention to country in a long, long time but I prefer "real" country music, not polished, over produced "Country" music.

Well said.

Credit to Baby Lee here, but this is on point IMO.

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Buehler445 08-23-2017 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13032059)
Country music radio is the #2 genre in the US among 18-24 year olds but Country Music purchasers are, on average, 45 year old adults split fairly evenly among men and women (52%-48%).

Rap has surpassed Rock and Country as the overall #1 genre.

:eek:

There it goes. That's my last shred of hope for society.

****....

gblowfish 08-23-2017 03:23 PM

"Hick Hop" is amusing. I don't want to listen to it all the time, but once in awhile is OK.

Pueblo Chieftan 08-23-2017 04:15 PM

^^^ One reccomendation: I recently had VIP tickets to an Old Dominion show here in Pueblo, Co.

Man, go see them if given the opportunity you guys. They are up and comers having just released their second album, but boy oh boy, they are great live in concert.

19now11 08-23-2017 05:12 PM

the lacs (loud ass crackers) and demun jones are pretty bad ass hickop bands. **** u claynus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_UTUXDs-tE

Deberg_1990 08-23-2017 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 13032209)
To each his own, but rap is awful. Country was good decades ago, but gave up on it in this one.

Alan Jackson, Clint Black, George Jones, Travis Tritt, Ronnie Milsap, Confederate Railroad, Tracey Lawrence, George Strait, Aaron Tippen, Joe Diffie, Hank Jr, and more...

Them's the days I enjoyed some sad, drinking Country tunes. Maybe it's come around these days, but too busy listening to the older stuff when it's music time.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/32df5fbcb...oly3o1_400.gif

Too much of it has become pop or 'light bro rock' like Luke Bryan and Florida Georgia Line. They arent really country, but arnt really rock either.

Like Dane said, Nashville knows exactly what they are doing. Plus, they largely market to younger females anymore.

stevieray 08-23-2017 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13032059)

Rap has surpassed Rock and Country as the overall #1 genre.

..shocking.

:rolleyes:

DaneMcCloud 08-23-2017 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 13032701)
..shocking.

:rolleyes:

I hear ya.

While I don't mind old school Hip Hop & Rap, I just can't get into today's scene.

But Grunge killed rock. Rappers became Rock Stars.

People can say "Oh, there's still great rock music out there, you just have dig for it". Well, that's fine and dandy most people don't have the time or patience to find it and when they do, their kids aren't interested.

So now, we live in a world of Legacy Acts, Max Martin, Rap and new school Country.

stevieray 08-23-2017 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13032718)



But Grunge killed rock. Rappers became Rock Stars.

yup, rappers said..you think you're pissed?..and viola..says more about our culture than music.

"ya, life sucks, but I'm not going to write a song about it"

/Vince Neil

Bugeater 08-23-2017 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13032718)
I hear ya.

While I don't mind old school Hip Hop & Rap, I just can't get into today's scene.

But Grunge killed rock. Rappers became Rock Stars.

People can say "Oh, there's still great rock music out there, you just have dig for it". Well, that's fine and dandy most people don't have the time or patience to find it and when they do, their kids aren't interested.

So now, we live in a world of Legacy Acts, Max Martin, Rap and new school Country.

Can you elaborate on this? Never really made the connection myself but now that you point that out it does seem that way, just curious as to why or how that happened.

Pueblo Chieftan 08-23-2017 05:52 PM

Old Dominion- Look em' yall.. I'll wager 5 ****ing songs before they win you over.

Pueblo Chieftan 08-23-2017 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 13032725)
yup, rappers said..you think you're pissed?..and viola..says more about our culture than music.

"ya, life sucks, but I'm not going to write a song about it"

/Vince Neil

Firstly, never quote vince neil...excepting him telling the paparazzi to leave nicky cage the **** alone. And secondly, who is going to be the Kurt Cobain(suicide) of Rap...hmmm, my money is on Kanye West..

lewdog 08-23-2017 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13032718)
I hear ya.

While I don't mind old school Hip Hop & Rap, I just can't get into today's scene.

But Grunge killed rock. Rappers became Rock Stars.

People can say "Oh, there's still great rock music out there, you just have dig for it". Well, that's fine and dandy most people don't have the time or patience to find it and when they do, their kids aren't interested.

So now, we live in a world of Legacy Acts, Max Martin, Rap and new school Country.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 13032739)
Can you elaborate on this? Never really made the connection myself but now that you point that out it does seem that way, just curious as to why or how that happened.

I am with Bug. Why?

I mean there's a clear decline in mainstream rock after grunge but what was the reason it killed it? I'm a HUGE 90's rock fan and outside of a few bands that still produce decent music, I haven't heard a new rock band I like in years.

Buehler445 08-23-2017 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan (Post 13032614)
^^^ One reccomendation: I recently had VIP tickets to an Old Dominion show here in Pueblo, Co.

Man, go see them if given the opportunity you guys. They are up and comers having just released their second album, but boy oh boy, they are great live in concert.

Old Dominion is a good listen. I like their sound. Haven't heard anything off their second album.

Pueblo Chieftan 08-23-2017 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 13032858)
I am with Bug. Why?

I mean there's a clear decline in mainstream rock after grunge but what was the reason it killed it? I'm a HUGE 90's rock fan and outside of a few bands that still produce decent music, I haven't heard a new rock band I like in years.

Agreed. Why is that? Rick Rubin/ Russell Simmons thats mainly why.

Pueblo Chieftan 08-23-2017 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13032873)
Old Dominion is a good listen. I like their sound. Haven't heard anything off their second album.

Ye boy, their second record is worth buying. I watched their show mainly supporting the second album and had several spine tinglies and then even some MORE ****ING TINGLES !

Reerun_KC 08-23-2017 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13032873)
Old Dominion is a good listen. I like their sound. Haven't heard anything off their second album.

Check out Cody Johnson, Reed Southall, early Easton Corbin, Jon Pardi and Logan Mize.

stevieray 08-23-2017 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 13032739)
Can you elaborate on this? Never really made the connection myself but now that you point that out it does seem that way, just curious as to why or how that happened.

Hard rock tilted to Death Metal and Thrash, while legacy acts didnt resonate with disenfranchised youth of the early ninties.. big hair and makeup to flannel.

That and the music industry changed .but i defer to Dane on that.

Pueblo Chieftan 08-24-2017 12:00 AM

nobody really liked aerosmith and other pop friendly rock-n-roll acts after grunge, well, because of grunge.


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