ALL HE DOES IS WIN!!!!!

The living room walls could barely contain me at this point... ugghhh.

To be fair 1 of those games was the Washington game and we were just face raping them. There was no real need for Smith to be airing it out...

I doubt even then he would win anything significant.

are we defining success as not shitting his pants and ALMOST winning a wildcard game?

I think I've asked you this in the past, but what would it take for him to win you over? Because, as far as I can tell, if that fumble doesn't bounce directly into Luck's hands, we aren't having this conversation.

No only did he not shit his pants, he gave us a huge lead on the road without our #1 weapon... thats what I call success.

Are we defining 378 yards, 4 TD, 0 INT and a 119.7 passer rating on the road in the playoffs as "not shitting his pants?"

Alex kicked ass in our road playoff game. If only our pass rushers weren't banged up and our secondary wasn't trash we would have easily won that game and who knows what could have happened after that. Sometimes I wonder if some of you guys really remember what it was like to have Matt Cassel and the carousel of garbage AIDS infected dipshits we trotted out there during the Herm and Pioli years. Because I do, and watching Alex Smith in the latter part of last season was a breath of ****ing fresh air by comparison.

Whether we won the game or not has not to do with Alex's numbers those are not the stats of a Franchise QB.

Yep. It's well documented that he stepped the **** up in the playoffs. But that one game doesn't excuse the mediocre regular season numbers.

Smith had a better game than Luck.

Smith played better than Luck.

Smith lost because of stupidity from the whole team in the second half.

Why didn't we run more? Why were offensive players going out of bounds with the lead instead of sliding down and running clock? Why couldn't our secondary cover anyone? Why wasn't smith letting the play clock tick all the way down?...

More consistency of his best days maybe.

Alex had 6 games last year where he didn't throw a TD pass, compared to everyones favorite "shitbag" QB Romo, you have to go back 6 years to reach that number.

An AFCCG appearance.

I would agree, but he got quite a bit better in the latter part of the season and of course in the playoff game. So that gives me an optimistic outlook. I'm hoping he and Reid really came together and figured things out and can continue to kick ass this season.

It also really doesn't help him that our WRs and TEs are utter trash.

Well, unless Smith can complete passes to the side of Clark's head to get us a new GM that ain't likely...

Argh. I just hate reliving that game. :mad: I too have asked those questions many times. Do you think if we had Charles healthy in that game that we would have won?

I meant to mention this topic with an earlier post of yours but didnt wanna come off like a dick.

What I think people maybe forget (you) or simply refuse to acknowledge (others), is that theres a legit reason for those pedestrian early season numbers... not only was he new to the team but the system was brand new, a system widely regarded as the hardest to learn. The entire team was also learning this complicated system.

So they were still feeling their way through early on, learning each others tendencies and trying to get the system down... that led Alex to go into hardcore game manager mode, which is the right thing to do in that situation, not trying to wing it deep when you're not sure if the receiver is even gonna run the correct route, minimize turnovers to aid the defense that was rolling etc.

I dont think its coincidence that as the season wore on we seen things open up, we did end up averaging 35ppg the last seven games... nothing to sneeze at.

Davis was running the ball well. Charles might have changed the play calling but he wouldn't make pass catchers stay in bounds or improve the play of our secondary...

True. The playcalling might have made the difference though. And is it just me or did Bowe not give enough of an effort on that last 4th down sideline pass? I'm sure this was discussed in exhausting fashion here but I was too pissed to log in at the time.

Just you. It's literally never been discussed.

I would have expected you to say a win. But that's valid. Especially if you're right and the Broncos walk away with the division. We'd have to win two playoff games and likely on the road.

I agree. Which is why I'm down with him getting more reps this preseason. I'm just saying I'd rather those reps be taken away from Daniel rather than Bray or Murray.

The AFC will be mostly $#it this year...

I think we all hope he didn't give enough effort because he sucked ass on that play. Why couldn't he use his big old body instead of getting funneled out of bounds? He either didn't try his hardest with the game on the line or he's just a big old puss and he's lost more than a just a step.

Hard to detect sarcasm here.

Wasn't trying to hide it.

lol

From your lips to Gods ears about Daniel, we have the current "guy"... lets look to the future beyond him and not dick around with this largely unproven, stopgap middle man.

All or nothing.

So the team goes 4 and 1 in those games and you bitch :spock: NFL fans are dumb as ****

Bitching about 0 TDs and 4 ypa, damn right.

I'm sure the coaches were patting Smith on the back for his awesome performance. Oh wait... Andy Reid sat him down after a 9-0 start and told him to get his head out of his ass.

Preach it.

CPS takes evaluating QB play is mind blowing ly horrible

Yup fantasy football has ruined the game or any logical understanding of it whatsoever.

It has nothing to do with fantasy football.

Alex just doesn't get the ball down the field or outside the numbers enough.

It absolutely does.

Only an idiot would draft any WR thrown to by Smith...

Nope. Watch the guy play. Not good enough. Too many check downs, holds the ball too long, doesn't take enough chances.

You can't win championships with limp dick fraidy cat QB play. AND THAT'S WHAT ALEX IS.

Trade for Hoyer!

Yeah he sure played like that down the stretch and in Indy ROFL ROFL

Clay is just trolling. It's kind of sad, too, because this place doesn't need it.

You don't get to 165k posts without just throwing out whatever bullshit you can think of to stir shit up.

As has already been pointed out, his "resurgence" in the second half of the year is being way overblown. Still had some shit games in there, still had a pedestrian YPA/YPC.

YPA doesn't mean anything.

Otherwise, you wouldn't think Donnie Avery's 6.248 YPA in Indianapolis was superior to his 8.278 YPA with Alex Smith.

He's definitely stirring the shit. I should quit falling for it. I'm learning. :thumb:

Personally, I'm just gonna bow out of this perpetual shitshow... either this season proves me right or wrong, either Reid is pushing him to be aggressive or he isnt, let the chips fall where they may.

But oooh GOD do I hope to make some people eat shit if I'm right... swear I'm gonna be a prick about it, too... and why not? all the doubters dont have a problem with it.

I enjoy feeding him a bit till I get bored

I am already inserting the tip!

Yeah, pointing out that a guy who was:

19th in comp pct
17th in yards
29th in yards per attempt
31st in yards per completion
21st in sacks

...is not getting the job done, THAT'S JUST TROLLING MANG.

We're on the same page here. Except I probably won't be a prick about it. Because christ knows I've been wrong too many times to gloat about being right lol

Yards per completion, then.

Alex lacks.

Top two in win percentage his last few years! He has the magic touch.

Just like Steve Bono...

I don't even think it's fair to judge him this year.

They're asking him to be something he's not, they let his 0 line go to complete $#it, they don't give him any additional targets to throw to, then ask him to produce with one of the toughest schedules in the league.

I'm not a big fan but you can't give a man less and then expect him to do more...

Oh, in that case, then Donnie Avery improved from 13.0 YPC to 14.9 YPC when he traded Andrew Luck for Alex "WR Killer" Smith.

Gonna be awesome to watch an entire first half of this...

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Oh, he'll be running...

Oh hell yeah, I've been wrong plenty... but I dont recall being so smug and dickish and aggressive about it.

Like I said, the line is going to be a work in progress no doubt and I pilloried Andy Heck last year... but he eventually found a mix that worked well enough and I do think there are enough decent pieces in house to replicate that.

Its all on Fisher.

With the receivers, I wanted something, someone brought in and remain disappointed.

But if even 2 of these holdovers (Jenkins, Hemingway, Wilson?) can take a decent step forward with a healthy Kelce and MAYBE an emerging Harris, then things dont look quite so bad when you consider that everyone has been on the same page for 2 years now.

With more familiarity its natural to expect more consistency.

So if 3 or 4 longshots actually become productive players we'll be ok?

Think about what you're saying. Hell, if 4 scrubs came out of nowhere to be productive players for any offense they'd be good...

I'll either be proven right or wrong, I'm comfortable with the coaching ability and culture that seems to be taking hold here and, well... lets play some games and find out.

Who is this easy 6 guy?
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The one positive I see here is Phat Andy's coaching.

I'm am so glad Clark has the HC and GM independently reporting to him. I was completely wrong about both of them.

I now love Reid and want Dorsey to GTFO...

Why do you want Dorsey out?

LMAO

Come on man, you know that old song!... seven chipmunks sittin on a branch!

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This just dawned on me.

I was completely against the Smith trade. Two 2nds being too much. Hated it.

I think even the biggest Smith bashers would agree he's a top 15 QB. Mostly because there are some really bad starting QB's in this league but it is what it is.

With two offseason FA periods and a complete draft at his disposal Dorsey hasn't added ONE player AT ANY POSITION who is top 20 in the league. Anyone. At any position. And this includes him having the no 1 pick in the draft.

Dorsey's best draft decision was not to use the picks and instead trade for Smith.

So, in summary: In two offseasons Dorsey has not added any quality starters while losing quality starters and his best draft decision was to not draft anyone. His drafting is such a pile of $3it it has made me a fan of the Smith trade...

I have to say I absolutely agree, and if this season is a losing season, I think it will be time to grab the pitchforks, pluck the chickens and warm up the tar

You ever gonna provide some evidence of this?

Davis
Kelce
Ford
DAT
Fisher
Fulton
Gaines

I think there's still plenty of hope for Dorsey's drafts. Not adding free agents I have zero problems with. Hopefully a solid year of development with those young players and a slew of draft picks next year can really solidify this team and set them up for sustainable success.

There is really not sufficient data to judge Dorsey either way.

I agree man. I think you'll be able to throw Davis, Kush and Capatano in there soon.

It's highly unlikely anyone drafted after the 4th round will come in and be a respectable starter. It's just a rarity. Not impossible, but very unlikely.

Davis is a b/u. Looks like a very solid b/u, but still a b/u. And one with a long injury history. Only started two games last year and by the end of the second was all ****ed up.

Kelce is also coming off a serious injury and this will basically be his rookie year.

Ford is a b/u and rotational player that's horrible vs. the run. At best he's an excellent one dimensional pass rusher and that won't be until next year (unless Hali gets hurt.)

Fisher spent his rookie season either being injured or failing horribly.

DAT is our big shot. If we have him at P/KR for the year I think he's LIKELY to finish a top 10 returner. Not could be, I think it's likely. Notice he doesn't have an injury history. Rookies can and often are productive as returners. It's not a long shot...

No one's asking you. No one cares.

49ers fans have been saying this since he was signed, dipshit. Did you see the sack he took last week? Ever see him hold the ball too long, panic, and run his ass off to the right sideline to escape the pass rush before chucking it out of bounds? Happens multiple times every game and I want to **** my TV with a bladed strap-on every time it ****ing happens.

He is an indecisive little prick unless someone is immediately wide open. He's a scared chicken shit noodle arm punk and I can't wait until he's cut, traded or retires.

Someone did, and that's why I posted, dipshit.

I think it's safe to say you are a psycho and nothing you said is really accurate.

Actually, I specifically asked him.

Simmer down and write another Cassel fluff-piece.

You're writing these guys off way too early.

Davis is a b/u... yes, but so was Priest Holmes, Larry Johnson, Jamaal Charles. They all became extremely productive starters after a couple years.

Kelce is basically in his rookie year - exactly why there's still hope.

You are selling Ford wildly short.

Fisher spent his rookie season banged and failing horribly. Hopefully we will see this year if those two things are related.

I think there's still a ton of promise in these young players. Ford, Gaines, Fulton, DAT - all are yet to play a single regular season snap. let's not start talking about how one dimensional and miserable they are.

I am a 49ers fan who has watched him for years and for years posted stats showing it is a myth haters pulled out of their ass.

So he holds the ball too long? But also bails out quick in a panic?

Smith only had 18 throwaways last season.