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KCUnited 08-15-2014 01:44 PM

I'm not sure how a "shot" finger heals over a season. Sounds like, from local radio reports, that the guy is either intentionally not going up for balls in practice to prevent further injury to it, or simply can't due to the injury. The money plus the finger and I'd get out now if it is indeed possible.

FringeNC 08-15-2014 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10820870)
Wow, talk about luck on the Chiefs part and terrible, terrible judgement on Bowe's part.

The only thing that made the contract a bad one for the Chiefs was the guaranteed base salary and if Bowe's behavior voids the guarantee...well :facepalm:

Did he appeal the suspension? You'd almost think he'd have to, if he loses his guaranteed money.

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 08-15-2014 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 10820897)
Did he appeal the suspension? You'd almost think he'd have to, if he loses his guaranteed money.

He was going to appeal it but then he lit up a big one, fell asleep, and missed the filing deadline.

keg in kc 08-15-2014 01:59 PM

I just can't see how they can cut Bowe at this point. It's a one-game suspension. They're going to choose to go with Hemingway and Avery as starters for 16 games? I mean, hell, I"m probably the biggest Hemingway homer here, but come on....

FringeNC 08-15-2014 02:14 PM

Bowe had five days to appeal the suspension, but it appears he won’t take that route.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...#storylink=cpy

Something doesn't smell right. First, he plead, knowing a suspension is possible, then he plans on not appealing. Is it possible that he along with his agent, didn't know he was forfeiting his guaranteed money? Or maybe he had a special contract provision?

John Dope 08-15-2014 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10820920)
I just can't see how they can cut Bowe at this point. It's a one-game suspension. They're going to choose to go with Hemingway and Avery as starters for 16 games? I mean, hell, I"m probably the biggest Hemingway homer here, but come on....

I don't think they'll cut him until the offseason. They are done creating cap room. They also probably knew this was coming. If they were going to cut him, they would have given everyone else a lot more time with the ones. If Hemmingway has a big game against the Titans, he might keep starting but even then I don't think they cut Bowe this year.

FringeNC 08-15-2014 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10820920)
I just can't see how they can cut Bowe at this point. It's a one-game suspension. They're going to choose to go with Hemingway and Avery as starters for 16 games? I mean, hell, I"m probably the biggest Hemingway homer here, but come on....

Yeah, but no way Bowe can come close to $9 million as a free agent. Not even close. Renegotiation?

Eleazar 08-15-2014 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Herpe (Post 10820530)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>It's now a little easier for KC to cut Dwayne Bowe. His $8.75M &amp; $1.5M '14 &amp; '15 base salary guarantees void because of his suspension.</p>&mdash; Joel Corry (@corryjoel) <a href="https://twitter.com/corryjoel/statuses/500322225304895488">August 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Hope that bud was worth it...

FringeNC 08-15-2014 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dope (Post 10820959)
I don't think they'll cut him until the offseason. They are done creating cap room. If Hemmingway has a big game against the Titans, he might keep starting but even then I don't think they cut Bowe this year.

Chiefs have cap issues. If because of a legal technicality, they can get out of Bowe's contract, they will. Cut? Renegotiate? I don't know.

gblowfish 08-15-2014 02:18 PM

What if he apologizes to the Clarks?

John Dope 08-15-2014 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10820870)
Wow, talk about luck on the Chiefs part and terrible, terrible judgement on Bowe's part.

The only thing that made the contract a bad one for the Chiefs was the guaranteed base salary and if Bowe's behavior voids the guarantee...well :facepalm:

I hope Hemmingway starts. It will be interesting to see if he can match Bowe's 2013 production against the Titans of 4 receptions for 35 yards. Maybe we'll get to find out if I'm as stupid as you think.

RunKC 08-15-2014 02:20 PM

$9.75 million if they cut him post June 1st next year? Wow

John Dope 08-15-2014 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 10820963)
Chiefs have cap issues. If because of a legal technicality, they can get out of Bowe's contract, they will. Cut? Renegotiate? I don't know.

I think they are done creating cap space in 2014. I think they'll wait until 2015 to do anything.

Halfcan 08-15-2014 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dope (Post 10820971)
I think they are done creating cap space in 2014. I think they'll wait until 2015 to do anything.

What makes you think that-since the final roster is not set yet?

Red Dawg 08-15-2014 02:28 PM

Cutting him right now would be just stupid. What is there really to gain?

MahiMike 08-15-2014 02:30 PM

Jags got 2 receivers in the 2nd round better than Bowe. This puts pressure on the Dee Ford pick too. He could be the next Larry Johnson. Not character-wise. Situation-wise.

John Dope 08-15-2014 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 10820981)
What makes you think that-since the final roster is not set yet?

I think they had decided what they wanted to offer Smith and/or Houston before camp. When they cut Flowers they had that money. They might cut somebody that frees up money but it won't be to create cap room imo. It will be because someone else was better.

MahiMike 08-15-2014 02:31 PM

Keep an eye on Buffalo. I'm hoping they cut Robert woods. I heard some mention of this.

John Dope 08-15-2014 02:33 PM

You know what really sucks? Tennessee is a game we have to win imo.

Wildcat2005 08-15-2014 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 10820996)
Keep an eye on Buffalo. I'm hoping they cut Robert woods. I heard some mention of this.

He was probably their best WR last year
No way they cut him

Mennonite 08-15-2014 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dope (Post 10821000)
You know what really sucks? Tennessee is a game we have to win imo.


FWIW the Titans looked pretty awful in their first preseason game.

htismaqe 08-15-2014 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dope (Post 10820967)
I hope Hemmingway starts. It will be interesting to see if he can match Bowe's 2013 production against the Titans of 4 receptions for 35 yards. Maybe we'll get to find out if I'm as stupid as you think.

Why would you deliberately hope for the Chiefs to lose?

Red Dawg 08-15-2014 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10820969)
$9.75 million if they cut him post June 1st next year? Wow

This is when it may happen. Now would be a waste.

Pablo 08-15-2014 02:57 PM

LOL PROLLY GONNA GET HIGH ON HIS DAY OFF LOLOLOLOL

penguinz 08-15-2014 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10821039)
LOL PROLLY GONNA GET HIGH ON HIS DAY OFF LOLOLOLOL

Dumb post is dumb.

ThaVirus 08-15-2014 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dope (Post 10820959)
I don't think they'll cut him until the offseason. They are done creating cap room. They also probably knew this was coming. If they were going to cut him, they would have given everyone else a lot more time with the ones. If Hemmingway has a big game against the Titans, he might keep starting but even then I don't think they cut Bowe this year.


:facepalm:

Now we're hyping Hemingway as the guy that will supplant Bowe as a starter?

mikey23545 08-15-2014 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10820336)
A million crusty old white dudes just called him a knucklehead then pounded twelve PBRs and drove home and thought about violating a clause in their employment contract that they knew could cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars and hurt their fellow employees, but realized how ****ing stupid that would be, and called a cab.


FYP.

TEX 08-15-2014 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10821047)
:facepalm:

Now we're hyping Hemingway as the guy that will supplant Bowe as a starter?

LMAO No shit! That guy has more stupid takes than anyone has ever had in a very short period of time. I think we should give him an award or something.

TEX 08-15-2014 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 10820996)
Keep an eye on Buffalo. I'm hoping they cut Robert woods. I heard some mention of this.

Something to remember is that even IF that were to happen, there is no guarantee the Chiefs would get him or, for that matter, even have a shot. The Texans get first dibs on released players this year. Its not going to be nearly as easy as last season for the Chiefs to improve by signing released players.

Mav 08-15-2014 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcat2005 (Post 10821009)
He was probably their best WR last year
No way they cut him

Where did he play? Watkins Graham eve marquise Goodwin are ahead of him

thabear04 08-15-2014 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10821120)
Where did he play? Watkins Graham eve marquise Goodwin are ahead of him

http://www.buffalobills.com/team/depth-chart.html

he listed as WR 2

Ming the Merciless 08-15-2014 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10820706)
Hey look, Now people will REALLY have a reason to bitch at alex for not throwing to BOWE

I can hear the excuses already

"He didnt have bowe, thats why we lost to the titans and got sacked 5 times"

GloryDayz 08-15-2014 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 10821044)
Dumb post is dumb.

What's even dumber is that after all DB went through this is a story in 8/2014... So call it dumb but consider who we're talking about here.

Dunerdr 08-15-2014 04:34 PM

What kind of trade options does this give us with him? You know Dorsey would rather grab those picks if possible than just dump him.

baitism 08-15-2014 05:03 PM

Cut him. There are seriously guys off the street that would provide more production.

saphojunkie 08-15-2014 05:06 PM

Cutting Bowe would be so epically shitstormtastic that I almost want it to happen. I'd be like Ra's Al Ghul watching CP tear itself apart.

Wildcat2005 08-15-2014 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10821120)
Where did he play? Watkins Graham eve marquise Goodwin are ahead of him

They are not ahead of him
Woods was their best WR last year as a rookie
He will start next to Watkins

You don't just cut 2nd year players if they are quality starters for your team

Red Dawg 08-15-2014 05:13 PM

ROFLROFLROFLROFL
Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10821309)
Cutting Bowe would be so epically shitstormtastic that I almost want it to happen. I'd be like Ra's Al Ghul watching CP tear itself apart.


CapsLockKey 08-15-2014 05:15 PM

The most important thing about some of his guaranteed money being void isn't whether Bowe should be cut or not, but now he has financial motivation again to put in some effort. I don't think it's a coincidence that he fell off right after he got paid. Now if the effort isn't there, the Chiefs aren't stuck with as much of his financial burden if they don't want to be.

BigMeatballDave 08-15-2014 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 10821303)
Cut him. There are seriously guys off the street that would provide more production.

LMAO Okay

Dunerdr 08-15-2014 05:27 PM

So how much are we paying him? If he's just cheap now why would we cut him?

TribalElder 08-15-2014 05:36 PM

The Clark's can lower parking prices now

Thanks dwayne

kcxiv 08-15-2014 05:40 PM

If they can really get out of that contract you have got to cut him! I like Bowe, he's fun to watch well before last year anyways.

Need that space.

insanity 08-15-2014 06:00 PM

Bowe
 
Get this clown off of our team the times he actually catches the ball he just sits down or runs to the one yard line.

007 08-15-2014 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by insanity (Post 10821458)
Get this clown off of our team the times he actually catches the ball he just sits down or runs to the one yard line.

Looks like we have a n00b to haze.

TribalElder 08-15-2014 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by insanity (Post 10821458)
Get this clown off of our team the times he actually catches the ball he just sits down or runs to the one yard line.

Great first post

Top notch

Would read again

Red Dawg 08-15-2014 06:08 PM

Stop saying to cut Bowe. That would be sooooooo idiotic it's crazy.

insanity 08-15-2014 06:09 PM

Thanks should I start my own blog?

insanity 08-15-2014 06:14 PM

Trade not cut

TribalElder 08-15-2014 06:16 PM

I don't understand how it all works, if we cut him does that make him fall through the waiver wire order or would he walk free and clear to choose his own landing spot :shrug:

Profootballtalk was jerking off thinking about manziel to bowe LMAO

insanity 08-15-2014 06:31 PM

That's ridiculously funny

Easy 6 08-15-2014 06:32 PM

More reps for Jenkins PBJ

Take those 8 catches on the year for 130 yards and 16.3 across a season and you've got a legit deep threat.

You're not the only guy who needs a job, Dwayne... time to finally get pissed off about something, no lie.

I've watched you make plenty of plays, but its hard to remember the times you've stalked the sidelines angry about something, pumping up your teammates, jabbering in your QB's ear, being a cocky asshole with someone on the other team, etc, etc.

We ALL love ya Dwayne, but 2014 is the year to get PISSED OFF and show some mfers SOMETHING... a respected leader, the guy every offensive player looks to for inspiration, the guy who lets no one get inside him on a slant.

Wheres the pride, wheres the fire?

BOWE, DWAYNE ****ING BOWE... ISNT HE TIRED OF BEING CONSIDERED JUST OK?

insanity 08-15-2014 06:36 PM

Right he wants a super bowl and thinks his natural talent will get him one if he hasn't got it by now will he ever?

SAUTO 08-15-2014 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10821309)
Cutting Bowe would be so epically shitstormtastic that I almost want it to happen. I'd be like Ra's Al Ghul watching CP tear itself apart.

It would save us 9 million something this year, and next year we have 9 million in dead money. That what the article said at least.


Pass. If he doesn't step up let him go next year with no hit
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cosmo20002 08-15-2014 06:45 PM

This suspension will show us what this team is made of.

Do we have anyone with the heart it takes to step up, rise to the occasion, and drop a few catchable passes?
Time will tell.

Mav 08-15-2014 06:48 PM

anyone else read that Andy Reid has fallen in love with Kyle Williams?

Quesadilla Joe 08-15-2014 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10821510)
I don't understand how it all works, if we cut him does that make him fall through the waiver wire order or would he walk free and clear to choose his own landing spot :shrug:

Profootballtalk was jerking off thinking about manziel to bowe LMAO

I'm pretty sure that only players who have been in the league for four years or less get put on the waiver wire, everyone else becomes a free agent.

Discuss Thrower 08-15-2014 07:50 PM

Chiefs' fans don't deserve success with how they feel about veteran homegrown talent. JFC you guys are a bunch of bottom feeders at times with your takes.

Easy 6 08-15-2014 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10821945)
Chiefs' fans don't deserve success with how they feel about veteran homegrown talent. JFC you guys are a bunch of bottom feeders at times with your takes.

He's been a dandy, but dont be a candy ass... Dwayne could be a sharper instrument.

I've never been sure how self motivated he is, but when a new HC comes in and demands this or that he always seems to comply to the best of his ability.

At his best he'll hover around 10th best, prove me wrong... its the details, going to Larry's camp doesnt guarantee results... does KC's plight piss you off, Dwayne?

Psyko Tek 08-15-2014 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10820336)
A million crusty old white dudes just called him a knucklehead then pounded twelve PBRs and drove home.

Jebus, what a wrong headed stereo type

only hipsters drink PBR

Marcellus 08-15-2014 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10821601)
This suspension will show us what this team is made of.

Do we have anyone with the heart it takes to step up, rise to the occasion, and drop a few catchable passes?
Time will tell.

Really? Bowe may have a better year this year in the end but he was practically invisible a good part of last year.

1 game against the Titans shouldn't mean shit.

cosmo20002 08-15-2014 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10822150)
Really? Bowe may have a better year this year in the end but he was practically invisible a good part of last year.

1 game against the Titans shouldn't mean shit.

Did you see the part where I said someone needs to step up and drop some passes?

It was kind of a joke that he won't be missed much.

Psyko Tek 08-15-2014 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN (Post 10820914)
He was going to appeal it but then he lit up a big one, fell asleep, and missed the filing deadline.

because he got high
because he got high


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Psyko Tek 08-15-2014 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by insanity (Post 10821458)
Get this clown off of our team the times he actually catches the ball he just sits down or runs to the one yard line.

that almost made sense, please try again

FloridaMan88 08-15-2014 10:00 PM

The Chiefs offseason decision to do nothing to upgrade the WR position looks brilliant… not.

John Dope 08-15-2014 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10821047)
:facepalm:

Now we're hyping Hemingway as the guy that will supplant Bowe as a starter?

Nope, that's what you said not me. Why do people do this here? That's not what I said.

What I said yesterday was that Bowe's 2013 production would not be hard to match. Reid's offense doesn't require an elite all world #1 receiver. I believe if Hemmingway was forced to be the starter all year that he could match Bowe's 2013 production. I don't think it would be hard to find someone to match that production.

As for Hemmingway starting... I do believe he'll be the starter against Tennessee. His game is in the same mold as Bowe's.

DTLB58 08-15-2014 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10820536)
Good thing the Titans suck.

Did you see Justin Hunter tonight? He already looks better than Bowe or any other WR on the roster. He probably burns Sean Smith for 2 TD's.

DTLB58 08-15-2014 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dope (Post 10821000)
You know what really sucks? Tennessee is a game we have to win imo.

When there are only 16, all of them are critical.

Nick Toon with the Saints I read is on the bubble. But I've been watching him tonight and he looks good. There is just so much competition there. This guy has great size. I would definitely keep a watch out for him.

DTLB58 08-15-2014 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10821601)
This suspension will show us what this team is made of.

Do we have anyone with the heart it takes to step up, rise to the occasion, and drop a few catchable passes?
Time will tell.

Donnie Avery
A.J. Jenkins
Junior Hemingway
Kyle Williams
Albert Wilson
Frankie Hammond
And now maybe Mark Harrison who has great size and was playing really well to start T.C. But is currently on the injured list.

Coach 08-15-2014 11:43 PM

Not sure if that's going to make a difference or not, since he's been practically invisible last year (outside of the Colts playoff game) and the pre season anyways.

ThaVirus 08-16-2014 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dope (Post 10822584)
Nope, that's what you said not me. Why do people do this here? That's not what I said.



What I said yesterday was that Bowe's 2013 production would not be hard to match. Reid's offense doesn't require an elite all world #1 receiver. I believe if Hemmingway was forced to be the starter all year that he could match Bowe's 2013 production. I don't think it would be hard to find someone to match that production.



As for Hemmingway starting... I do believe he'll be the starter against Tennessee. His game is in the same mold as Bowe's.



Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dope (Post 10820959)
If Hemmingway has a big game against the Titans, he might keep starting but even then I don't think they cut Bowe this year.


Bro.

Unless you meant that he'd start over Avery, you don't even know wtf you're saying.

Bufkin 08-16-2014 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10820643)
Is that a question? Then it should be "Are you insane?"



Otherwise, it should have been written as "You are insane!"



Carry on.

Damn that's funny. LOL

Dunerdr 08-16-2014 05:31 AM

Mark Harrison come on down! We need a guy with all the physical tools that just never really gets it together to be our no.1.

John Dope 08-16-2014 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10822677)
Bro.

Unless you meant that he'd start over Avery, you don't even know wtf you're saying.

It means I think he would start for Bowe against the Titans. It means if he outplays Bowe in that game, he might get to stay there. I never said he would supplant Bowe as the starter. Again, I said I think if he plays really well then they might keep him in there over Bowe. What are you missing?

the Talking Can 08-16-2014 08:40 AM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...m-chiefs-soon/

some idle fancy to entertain you this morning

Quote:

The one-game suspension of Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe could, in hindsight, become the domino that ultimately gives the Browns a replacement for Josh Gordon.

The suspension most likely voids the remaining fully guaranteed money in Bowe’s contract: $8.75 million in 2014 and $1.5 million in 2015. It creates a window for the Chiefs to dump Bowe, avoiding more than $10 million and creating an immediate $8.75 million in 2014 cap space. (The extra cap space now would almost entirely offset the $9 million cap charge they’d take in 2015, due to the post-June 1 move.)

Unless Bowe’s contract specifically was negotiated to remove now-standard language voiding future guarantees in the event of a suspension, the Chiefs could make a move at any point after Bowe’s one-week exile begins, but before the moment that his salary becomes guaranteed as “termination pay,” a benefit for all players with four or more years of service who are on a team’s Week One roster.

If Bowe is cut, he’d become a free agent. And if Browns receiver Josh Gordon is suspended for a full year, Cleveland would have a clear need at receiver.

SAUTO 08-16-2014 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 10822808)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...m-chiefs-soon/

some idle fancy to entertain you this morning

Q
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Chief Roundup 08-16-2014 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10820340)
Beer is legal! Moran!

Driving home after drinking is not. Idiot.

RunKC 08-16-2014 09:31 AM

I'm so tired of this guy having problems. 4 game suspension, couldn't be motivated, had to lose weight, dropped timely passes, couldn't get his feet inbounds, now another 1 game suspension.

Next spring bring in Maclin and draft multiple WR's like the Jags just did.

Chief Roundup 08-16-2014 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 10820667)
So one game for "defective equipment"

And 2 games for knocking your wife out and dragging her onto an elevator."

makes sense

Seen a couple of these posts. Hitting your wife is definitely worse than smoking a little weed.

Chief Roundup 08-16-2014 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 10820841)
If he loses his unpaid guaranteed money because of this, his agent is a moron for allowing him to plea.

It was a weed charge. Pleading down was the only hope. His suspension would have been worse.


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