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notorious 09-14-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 10915521)
Kirstie.

Well excuse me all to hell. :D

Mr. Arrowhead 09-14-2014 08:55 PM

I bet they stick with him at least for another week

carcosa 09-14-2014 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10915529)
I'm willing to give Chad Johnson a tryout. He'll probably miss just as many but at least it would hilarious LMAO

Weird how it took me a second to realize you meant Ochocinco.

carcosa 09-14-2014 08:58 PM

I had forgotten about this:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/aqEwjfchhc4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I desperately want this to happen now. Imagine if he revived his career by converting to kicker. He could play for another 10 years and probably make the HOF.

Deberg_1990 09-14-2014 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 10915534)
I bet they stick with him at least for another week

No faith that this guy can kick a game winning kick if it ever came down to that.

notorious 09-14-2014 09:00 PM

LMAO

Johnson smoked that XP.

carcosa 09-14-2014 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10915554)
LMAO

Johnson smoked that XP.

He really did! And his kickoff was no worse than what Succop usually served up. (I know, I know, we'd all rather have Succop than Santos.)

Somebody needs to tell him to get work.

Rausch 09-14-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 10915547)
I had forgotten about this:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/aqEwjfchhc4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I desperately want this to happen now. Imagine if he revived his career by converting to kicker. He could play for another 10 years and probably make the HOF.

Do it.

At least we'd smile for 3 or 4 minutes a game...

ClevelandBronco 09-14-2014 09:04 PM

**** YOU SANTOS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10915530)
Well excuse me all to hell. :D

Well shit, dude. When you have to rely on the Donk guys to keep the culture around here straight, well...just shit, dude.

notorious 09-14-2014 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 10915574)
Well shit, dude. When you have to rely on the Donk guys to keep the culture around here straight, well...just shit, dude.

It's not every day that your Broncos try to hand the game to us and we refuse to take it.


Cut this guy some slack, it been rough!

ClevelandBronco 09-14-2014 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10915548)
No faith that this guy can kick a game winning kick if it ever came down to that.

Field goal? Field goal? There was very little faith in the game thread that he could kick a game tying extra point if it came down to that.

ClevelandBronco 09-14-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10915585)
It's not every day that your Broncos try to hand the game to us and we refuse to take it.


Cut this guy some slack, it been rough!

Slack cut. You deserve it.

carcosa 09-14-2014 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10915571)
Do it.

At least we'd smile for 3 or 4 minutes a game...

How do we start the campaign? Do we need a flying banner?

ClevelandBronco 09-14-2014 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 10915599)
How do we start the campaign? Do we need a flying banner?

Make sure you fly it wide right. That's where everyone will be looking.

Rausch 09-14-2014 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 10915599)
How do we start the campaign? Do we need a flying banner?

Won't matter.

Clark couldn't care less...

Easy 6 09-14-2014 09:14 PM

If we dont have a new kicker by next sunday, then Dorsey is every bit as bad as some claim.

This guy is a knuckleball bullshitter, cant believe this wasnt sussed out in camp.

notorious 09-14-2014 09:15 PM

He is awesome in practice but sucks on the field.


The Cassel of kickers?

carcosa 09-14-2014 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10915623)
If we dont have a new kicker by next sunday, then Dorsey is every bit as bad as some claim.

This guy is a knuckleball bullshitter, cant believe this wasnt sussed out in camp.

I thought our ST coach was supposed to be one of the best, too.

GoShox 09-14-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 10915628)
I thought our ST coach was supposed to be one of the best, too.

He is, which is why it's even more amazing that he wanted Santos.

Easy 6 09-14-2014 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 10915628)
I thought our ST coach was supposed to be one of the best, too.

Even Jordan lost some games, I guess...

Deberg_1990 09-14-2014 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10915623)
If we dont have a new kicker by next sunday, then Dorsey is every bit as bad as some claim.

This guy is a knuckleball bullshitter, cant believe this wasnt sussed out in camp.

Hes not an NFL caliber kicker. Its a joke.

Rausch 09-14-2014 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10915668)
Hes not an NFL caliber kicker. Its a joke.

Dorsey is a fraud...

Ming the Merciless 09-14-2014 09:29 PM

santos works for 20 cents on the dollar

screw you if you dont agree with exploiting cheap labor

Rausch 09-14-2014 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 10915689)
santos works for 20 cents on the dollar

screw you if you dont agree with exploiting cheap labor

You get what you pay for...

MMXcalibur 09-14-2014 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10915627)
He is awesome in practice but sucks on the field.


The Baldwin of kickers?

This also works.

notorious 09-14-2014 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 10915708)
This also works.

Don't get me started on him......

royr17 09-14-2014 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10915518)
Has to be. Tynes and David Akers cant be worse than this chump.

If you wanna go with experience but lesser leg strength due to age than you have Tynes, Akers, Bironis, Lindell and Feely. If you wanna go with a stronger left with some experience and accuarcy than Conner Barth is available and is younger than the others. Personally i'd go with Barth he is only 28 and has a 84.2 % accuarcy rate with a long of 57 yards. He's who I think they should replace him with, plus he used to be with the Chiefs also.

In58men 09-14-2014 09:57 PM

We don't need talent we need to save money

Fish 09-14-2014 10:06 PM

Poor guy looks absolutely terrified out there.

FloridaMan88 09-14-2014 11:10 PM

If you can't make a 37 yard FG in Denver then you aren't an NFL kicker.

A new kicker needs to be brought in first thing Monday morning.

Jim Lahey 09-14-2014 11:11 PM

Ray Charles is more accurate spinning 10 times and pissing into a sand bucket than Santos is. Sign Feely.

baitism 09-14-2014 11:20 PM

What happened to Alex Henery? He was good at Nebraska.

Hammock Parties 09-14-2014 11:21 PM

Santos just needs a little more experience. Even if he misses a kick or two I'd keep him in there all year long. Hopefully it doesn't cost us any games.

DaNewGuy 09-14-2014 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10915936)
Santos just needs a little more experience. Even if he misses a kick or two I'd keep him in there all year long. Hopefully it doesn't cost us any games.

Agreed, while we're at let's get Bump Owens to #1 Corner and re sign Dunta Robinson

OldSchool 09-14-2014 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaNewGuy (Post 10915943)
Agreed, while we're at let's get Bump Owens to #1 Corner and re sign Dunta Robinson

Yeah. While we're at it, let's trade for Lewis again. #CHAMPIONSHIP!

johnny961 09-14-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10915946)
Yeah. While we're at it, let's trade for Lewis again. #CHAMPIONSHIP!

How about asking Lin Elliott if he would consider coming out of retirement while we are at it??

thabear04 09-14-2014 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 10915931)
What happened to Alex Henery? He was good at Nebraska.

In 48 games with the Eagles, Henery made 74-of-86 field goal attempts (86%), 116-of-117 point after attempts (99.1%) and had just 95 touchbacks on 245 kickoffs. Henery was 2-of-5 in his 50-yard attempts (40%) and 22-of-26 in field goals in the 40-49 yard range (84.6%). His career-long field goal is 51 yards, which he has made twice.

CoMoChief 09-14-2014 11:55 PM

This Santos guy really blows. I was excited to get rid of Succop. It was the right move and still is. They needed that money to sign Alex Smith.....but wow, as great of a camp this guy has had, he's another head case like Justin Medlock. Just absolutely buckles under the pressure when they count for real.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>With 500 RTs/Favs I'll show up to Chiefs facilities and ask to try out if they are bringing in kickers this week. Ready and waiting.</p>&mdash; Jeff Wolfert (@jwolfert) <a href="https://twitter.com/jwolfert/status/511303011335802880">September 14, 2014</a></blockquote>
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guess it wouldn't hurt right? Keep Santos on the roster for the 50+ yard FG's. Wolfert has a bitch for a leg but he's accurate as anyone I've seen inside 50.

EPodolak 09-14-2014 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10913029)
I hope everyone who was happy about cutting Succop and his salary are still happy now.


Amen. Classic case of overthinking what should have been an easy choice.

kcxiv 09-15-2014 02:34 AM

I still dont think it was a bad idea to cut a below average kickers! yeah, Santos missed 2 fieldgoals this year in 2 games. Dudes a rookie. You gotta let him get more kicks and more time to get comfortable.

Its not like we are going to the ship this year anyways.

scho63 09-15-2014 06:13 AM

A RECENT PHOTO OF OUR NEW POS KICKER


http://www.successfulworkplace.org/w...headlights.png

jd1020 09-15-2014 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 10915979)
This Santos guy really blows. I was excited to get rid of Succop. It was the right move and still is. They needed that money to sign Alex Smith.....but wow, as great of a camp this guy has had, he's another head case like Justin Medlock. Just absolutely buckles under the pressure when they count for real.

So they reduced Smith's cap number for this year but they somehow needed to cut Succop to sign him.

anustart 09-15-2014 06:38 AM

I think we need to sign Rob Bironas. 86.2% last year with a long of 55 yards. Bring in Santos to camp next year.

scho63 09-15-2014 10:44 AM

Decision to keep Santos looks like bad one
 
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...s-like-bad-one

By Adam Teicher | ESPN.com

DENVER – The Kansas City Chiefs might be the only ones who continue to believe that keeping undrafted rookie kicker Cairo Santos was a good decision.

“No, I don’t,’’ coach Andy Reid said when asked whether the Chiefs regretted their choice of Santos over a proven and mostly reliable veteran, Ryan Succop. “He’s got to kick better. I don’t ever look back on those things.’’

The decision is looking like a rotten one. Santos missed another field goal attempt, this one from 37 yards, in Sunday’s 24-17 loss to the Denver Broncos.

Santos made a kick from 45 yards. He was also 1-for-2 in last week’s game but sent both kicks off the uprights.

The reliability of a kicker is important for any team but crucial for a team struggling to find itself offensively. The Chiefs improved vastly in that area since last week’s game but are far from a finished product.

They certainly aren’t good enough to overcome the failures of their kicker.

The Chiefs saved about $1.6 million in choosing Santos over Succop and a savings of that nature can make such a move understandable. What’s troubling is that the Chiefs believed Santos was a better option regardless of the cost savings.

They believed he had more ability and potential than Succop and thus was a better choice. He certainly looked the part in training camp and the preseason, when he showed a strong leg and handled a position battle flawlessly.

But the Chiefs can’t wait for him to develop. They needed him to be NFL-ready against the Broncos and he wasn’t.

It sounds like Reid and the Chiefs will make that wait.

“When he settles down he kicks it fine,’’ Reid said. “He’s got to do that. We have trust in him.’’

hometeam 09-15-2014 10:45 AM

I thought this guy might not suck.

I think maybe, possibly, that might have been wrong.

Maybe.

Mr. Laz 09-15-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 10915534)
I bet they stick with him at least for another week

Absolutely.

Just like Reid will stick with our shitty defensive coaches until he gets fired.

We will have to gut the entire thing to make any changes.

New World Order 09-15-2014 10:47 AM

Cut Succop to pay Smith.

Brilliant move

New World Order 09-15-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10916669)
Absolutely.

Just like Reid will stick with our shitty defensive coaches until he gets fired.

We will have gut the entire thing to make any changes.


Then we can bring in Bill Cowher to run the show.

Mr. Laz 09-15-2014 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10916670)
Cut Succop to pay Smith.

Brilliant move

You're an idiot

KChiefer 09-15-2014 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 10916662)
...
“When he settles down he kicks it fine,’’ Reid said.
...

Get that mofo a jug of caipirinha on the sideline.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-15-2014 11:03 AM

I know a team that could possibly use him.

WhawhaWhat 09-15-2014 11:04 AM

Is Lawrence Tynes still kicking?

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-15-2014 11:06 AM

His pants-shitting is inspiring.

Pablo 09-15-2014 11:07 AM

Yet another brightly colored feather in Dorsey's cap.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-15-2014 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10916733)
Yet another brightly colored feather in Dorsey's cap.

http://inacentaur.com/hamletblog/wp-...eather-cap.jpg

OldSchool 09-15-2014 11:12 AM

Lots of cheap vets still out there who are way better than shit-in-your-eyes Santos.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-15-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10916750)
Lots of cheap vets still out there who are way better than shit-in-your-eyes Santos.

ROFL

Pablo 09-15-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 505 Chief (Post 10916736)

Was this photo taken before or after Fisher at 1.1?

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-15-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10916756)
Was this photo taken before or after Fisher at 1.1?

LMAO

New World Order 09-15-2014 11:14 AM

Bring back Dave Rayner?

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-15-2014 11:16 AM

Bring back Louie.

Jimmya 09-15-2014 11:18 AM

So no matter what the world believes, Andy Reid sticks to his guns just like he did in Philadelphia.

thabear04 09-15-2014 11:56 AM

Bring back Morten Andersen seem like he always wear those old school kickers facemask.

Chief Roundup 09-16-2014 10:35 AM

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2014/09/1...t-problem-yet/



Chiefs fans have found themselves a new whipping boy and his name is Cairo Santos.

The rookie kicker has had a shaky start to his career. He’s clanked in a kick from 35-yards and hit the post on a 48-yard attempt in his first game against Tennessee, and botched a 38-yard field goal in Denver last weekend. This is enough for some Chiefs fans to demand his head on a spike. And hey, missing 38-yard field goals is not something you want happening with your kicker.

But here’s a near universal truth about kickers: The first year is almost always an adventure.

Santos is replacing Ryan Succop, who has achieved deity status for some people. Much has been made about Succop being ‘the most accurate kicker in Chiefs history,’ which is a statement that is both 100-percent true and 100-percent misleading. Here are three Succop facts:

- Since his 2009 rookie season Succop ranks 31st out of 33 kickers in field goal percentage (min. 50 FG attempts). This includes Succop’s perfect five-for-five start to this season for Tennessee.

- Only Sebastian Janikowski has a worse field goal percentage than Succop amongst kickers with at least 40 total attempts since 2012. (Again, this includes Succop’s perfect 2014 start.) It should be noted seven of Janikowski’s 12 misses since 2012 have come on kicks beyond 50 yards. Only three of Succop’s 12 misses are from outside of 50 yards.

- In the kickoff game Succop ranked in the middle of the pack amongst all kickoff specialists according to Pro Football Focus’ data. Football Outsider’s data rated the Chiefs as the most efficient special teams unit in 2013 with the only negative efficiency rating coming from Succop’s field goal kicking.

Knowing those facts, now consider Succop was set to be one of the top 10 highest paid kickers in all of football through 2016. One of the worst field goal kickers in football since 2009 was going to make top ten money at his position. Thanks a bunch, Scott Pioli.

Replacing Succop was a must both for performance and for salary cap reasons, so it was the right move for John Dorsey to choose to move on. To replace Succop the Chiefs chose Santos, a former unanimous all-American and Lou Groza winner with exceptional range that estimated to go beyond 60 yards. He’s playing for the rookie league minimum and is under Chiefs control for three years.

And here’s where the first year kicker thing comes in.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-16-2014 10:36 AM

Yeah, the kicker is the real issue at play here.

Easy 6 09-16-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 505 Chief (Post 10920073)
Yeah, the kicker is the real issue at play here.

He didnt cost us the game, but that doesnt mean he needs to be kept around.

Any number of guys could be brought in here for pennies on the dollar who're far better.

Crush 09-16-2014 11:08 AM

If you have to rely on a kicker, then you have failed as a team. Score touchdowns and the shitty kicker is moot.

TLO 09-21-2014 12:54 PM

Just wanted to get this thread ready for the game today.

CapsLockKey 09-21-2014 01:05 PM

...and Succop missed two 40 yard FGs so far today. Santos probably isn't the answer, but cutting Succop made sense.

kcxiv 09-21-2014 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapsLockKey (Post 10933614)
...and Succop missed two 40 yard FGs so far today. Santos probably isn't the answer, but cutting Succop made sense.

Santo's is low on the priority list on the amount of sadness the Chiefs have going right now.

TLO 09-21-2014 02:30 PM

Great leg on that kickoff!

Down4Chiefs 09-21-2014 02:31 PM

Good thing we all said **** Santos in advance last Sunday,since its Hispanic heritage week now.

TLO 10-19-2014 05:04 PM

Here we go...

TLO 10-19-2014 05:05 PM

I LOVE YOU SANTOS!!!!!!!!I

TLO 10-19-2014 05:17 PM

Santos for president!

Earthling 10-19-2014 05:21 PM

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

TLO 08-31-2017 07:28 PM

So uh...

jjchieffan 08-31-2017 07:30 PM

Your and idiot. He has been money for us. He just came back from a groin injury. He'll be fine.

RealSNR 08-31-2017 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13048832)
Your and idiot. He has been money for us. He just came back from a groin injury. He'll be fine.

"Kicker" and "groin injury" are two items that NEVER go well together. He's healthy, but hasn't practiced his kicks in months.

We're not in good shape right now. At all.

jjchieffan 08-31-2017 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13048966)
"Kicker" and "groin injury" are two items that NEVER go well together. He's healthy, but hasn't practiced his kicks in months.

We're not in good shape right now. At all.

Yeah. I know that it's not good. I was just saying that recovering from the groin injury is why he missed. Not that he sucks, like Smoke is saying.


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