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Baby Lee 11-30-2014 10:42 PM

I hope he's the Chiefs starter until 2020, just for the pain it'll cause you idiots.

dirk digler 11-30-2014 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11158099)
This idea that won't seem to die that we're just a replacement of Alex Smith away from a SB, and conversely the existence of Alex guarantees we'll never be a SB team is insulting as a fan, as a fan of the Chiefs, as a fan of football, as a fan of competitive sports.

Yet people moan it over and over like they're some misunderstood genius.

If I ever do stop being a Chiefs fan, it won't be because of the team. It'll be because the fan base is too stupid to be associated with any more.

You think AS can win a SB with this team?

jd1020 11-30-2014 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11158580)
I hope he's the Chiefs starter until 2020, just for the pain it'll cause you idiots.

I feel no pain. My expectations for this team, as it stands, aren't shit.

TinyEvel 11-30-2014 10:45 PM

NO WRs NO protection. Against a top 5 defense and pass rush. Not his fault.

oaklandhater 11-30-2014 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11158580)
I hope he's the Chiefs starter until 2020, just for the pain it'll cause you idiots.

Hate for your fellow fan's ?

jd1020 11-30-2014 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 11158606)
NO WRs NO protection. Against a top 5 defense and pass rush. Not his fault.

Never is.

oaklandhater 11-30-2014 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 11158606)
NO WRs NO protection. Against a top 5 defense and pass rush. Not his fault.

The fact that he is the worst 2min QB in the nfl this season is.

Ming the Merciless 11-30-2014 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11157592)
QBs don't win these games. EVER. Maaaaybe once every 500 games of this nature.

Durrrrrrrr

Yah 1/500 to win a divisional game against a tough opponent when shit is on the line in late Nov.



At home

In58men 11-30-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11158580)
I hope he's the Chiefs starter until 2020, just for the pain it'll cause you idiots.

As long as we keep going 9-7 he'll be here. Just enough wins to make the fans have hope.

Ming the Merciless 11-30-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 11158613)
Hate for your fellow fan's ?

Its a severe form of assbergers

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-30-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 11158587)
You think AS can win a SB with this team?

The question is:

Could he win a SB with the equivalent of the NFL Harlem Globetrotters holding his ****ing hand the entire way down the stretch?

That's what people like Lee are banking on. Me, I'll take a nice 1st round hedge fund, please. And, I'll sell the entire goddamned farm team Dorsey has assembled to do it, PLUS his 10 ****ing picks.

Discuss Thrower 11-30-2014 10:47 PM

It's not really about Alex Smith as a man.

It's more about how trading for him was a "win now" move with a team that was 4 years away from winning a playoff game.

Guess what folks. The Chiefs are still 4 seasons away from winning a playoff game.

TLO 11-30-2014 10:48 PM

O-line is a joke.
WR's are a joke.
Alex is average.

The end. Shut the thread down.

lcarus 11-30-2014 10:48 PM

Offensive line is a serious serious problem. WRs too, but it all starts up front. If Alex is gonna be the guy for the next couple of seasons, they should at least get him some ****in blockers and receivers.

RunKC 11-30-2014 10:48 PM

He looked like Tyler Thigpen out there tonight

oaklandhater 11-30-2014 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11158636)
It's not really about Alex Smith as a man.

It's more about how trading for him was a "win now" move with a team that was 4 years away from winning a playoff game.

Guess what folks. The Chiefs are still 4 seasons away from winning a playoff game.

nah were a'lot further then that now. that trade and some bad drafts have set the chiefs back for year's.

notorious 11-30-2014 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11158645)
He looked like Tyler Thigpen out there tonight

Thigpen was much better at throwing downfield then Alex.

In58men 11-30-2014 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 11158643)
Offensive line is a serious serious problem. WRs too, but it all starts up front. If Alex is gonna be the guy for the next couple of seasons, they should at least get him some ****in blockers and receivers.

Or he could throw the ball away instead of shaking like Michael J ****ing Fox

Ming the Merciless 11-30-2014 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11158636)
It's not really about Alex Smith as a man.

It's more about how trading for him was a "win now" move with a team that was 4 years away from winning a playoff game.

Guess what folks. The Chiefs are still 4 seasons away from winning a playoff game.

I agree if we replace 4 with x

We are no better off , franchise wise, with smith on this team than any other average broke dick qb

Dave Lane 11-30-2014 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 11158031)
That would make complete sense if Smith looked bad when he was asked to throw it. But he hasnt.

Do you swish Alex's man seed around in your mouth just a little before you swallow or no?

Baby Lee 11-30-2014 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 11158587)
You think AS can win a SB with this team?

No one will, if this team continues to be one that closes up shop in mid-November every year.

But pick any of the teams with elite QBs that actually make noise in the playoffs, GB, Sea, NE, Balt, he could win a SB with a team made up like any of those.

Were the Chiefs and AS to part ways, it would benefit AS more than it would the Chiefs and AS would have more success elsewhere than KC would without him.

NJChiefsFan 11-30-2014 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 11158606)
NO WRs NO protection. Against a top 5 defense and pass rush. Not his fault.

It's not that simple. Your first two points are more than valid. But he doesn't help the situation sometimes. That first pass of the game is the exact reason why teams can load the box and put all that pressure on the oline. He also has missed a number of passes since the BUF game and also taken his fair share of silly sacks.

It's a tough combination of all 3 parts right now on offense.

dirk digler 11-30-2014 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11158633)
The question is:

Could he win a SB with the equivalent of the NFL Harlem Globetrotters holding his ****ing hand the entire way down the stretch?

That's what people like Lee are banking on. Me, I'll take a nice 1st round hedge fund, please. And, I'll sell the entire goddamned farm team Dorsey has assembled to do it, PLUS his 10 ****ing picks.

lol pretty much. This team had a chance to get one a couple of years ago instead of winning a handful of meaningless games. That is Clark's fault.

Baby Lee 11-30-2014 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 11158613)
Hate for your fellow fan's ?

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/168...solutely-o.gif

BigMeatballDave 11-30-2014 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 11158682)
lol pretty much. This team had a chance to get one a couple of years ago instead of winning a handful of meaningless games. That is Clark's fault.

Yeah, that would have been nice, but you can't expect players to throw games.

Ming the Merciless 11-30-2014 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11158674)
Were the Chiefs and AS to part ways, it would benefit AS more than it would the Chiefs and AS would have more success elsewhere than KC would without him.


You should stick to telling awesome jokes in DC that no one laughs at because your football takes are about as useful as your flaccid clit-nub

BigMeatballDave 11-30-2014 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 11158672)
Do you swish Alex's man seed around in your mouth just a little before you swallow or no?

Find Jesus, Dave. Let the hate go.

God loves you and he'll show you the way if you let him into your heart!

Ming the Merciless 11-30-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11158734)
Find Jesus, Dave

Dane might get pissed off if Dave hires Jesus to dust his telescope collection...

Dane relies in Jesus to dust his guitars and only pays about 12$ an hour

Baby Lee 11-30-2014 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 11158721)
You should stick to telling awesome jokes in DC that no one laughs at because your football takes are about as useful as your flaccid clit-nub

Suck off Mark Castle some more.

dirk digler 11-30-2014 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11158674)
No one will, if this team continues to be one that closes up shop in mid-November every year.

But pick any of the teams with elite QBs that actually make noise in the playoffs, GB, Sea, NE, Balt, he could win a SB with a team made up like any of those.

Were the Chiefs and AS to part ways, it would benefit AS more than it would the Chiefs and AS would have more success elsewhere than KC would without him.

AS had that kind of talent in SF and couldn't get it done. He is a fine QB but he isn't one that a team can jump on his back and he lead the way.

Ming the Merciless 11-30-2014 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11158765)
Suck off Mark Castle some more.

I'll watch you suck off castle 2.0 to learn how

MeatRock 11-30-2014 11:02 PM

**** Alex Smith. The offense is boring outside of Charles. The offense sucks cock outside of Charles. Did i say Charles was the offense?

Let me say it again, **** Alex Smith.

Dave Lane 11-30-2014 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11158674)
No one will, if this team continues to be one that closes up shop in mid-November every year.

But pick any of the teams with elite QBs that actually make noise in the playoffs, GB, Sea, NE, Balt, he could win a SB with a team made up like any of those.

Were the Chiefs and AS to part ways, it would benefit AS more than it would the Chiefs and AS would have more success elsewhere than KC would without him.

You are completely wrong. AS is holding the Chiefs back.

dirk digler 11-30-2014 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11158698)
Yeah, that would have been nice, but you can't expect players to throw games.

You don't have to have them throw games, just put all the best players on IR and don't hold any practices. The rest will take care of itself.

Baby Lee 11-30-2014 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 11158762)
Dane might get pissed off if Dave hires Jesus to dust his telescope collection...

Dane relies in Jesus to dust his guitars and only pays about 12$ an hour

The comedic stylings of clit-nub Castlejacker ladies and gentlemen

Tip your waitresses, they have to listen to this shit all night.

In58men 11-30-2014 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 11158783)
**** Alex Smith. The offense is boring outside of Charles. The offense sucks cock outside of Charles. Did i say Charles was the offense?

Let me say it again, **** Alex Smith.

Alex Happy Feet Smith

Baby Lee 11-30-2014 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 11158769)
AS had that kind of talent in SF and couldn't get it done. He is a fine QB but he isn't one that a team can jump on his back and he lead the way.

AS had that kind of talent ONE YEAR in SF and got them farther than the Chiefs have been since miniskirts were a BRAND NEW INVENTION!!

Dave Lane 11-30-2014 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11158734)
Find Jesus, Dave. Let the hate go.

God loves you and he'll show you the way if you let him into your heart!

Look a comedian. Private Joker. Hell I like you you can come over and **** my suster.

Ming the Merciless 11-30-2014 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11158792)
The comedic stylings of clit-nub Castlejacker ladies and gentlemen

Tip your waitresses, they have to listen to this shit all night.

Are you bitter because you just realized your Alex smith jersey is now worth less than your nickleback posters?

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-30-2014 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11158807)
AS had that kind of talent ONE YEAR in SF and got them farther than the Chiefs have been since miniskirts were a BRAND NEW INVENTION!!

http://youtu.be/DgGr1-JA5io

MeatRock 11-30-2014 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11158807)
AS had that kind of talent ONE YEAR in SF and got them farther than the Chiefs have been since miniskirts were a BRAND NEW INVENTION!!

You do know that Smith has 1 goddamn pass over 20 yards this year right? The ****ing offense is stale unless Charles runs the ball or gets a dump off.

THAT'S ALEX SMITH.

jd1020 11-30-2014 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 11158822)
You do know that Smith has 1 goddamn pass over 20 yards this year right? The ****ing offense is stale unless Charles runs the ball or gets a dump off.

THAT'S ALEX SMITH.

That's bullshit. I can recall at least 2 that he completed week 1 of around 40 yards. They were to the other team, however.

Dave Lane 11-30-2014 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 11158606)
NO WRs NO protection. Against a top 5 defense and pass rush. Not his fault.

Nothing every was, or will be.

Kaepernick 11-30-2014 11:13 PM

I don't see many Chiefs games.

No QB would have been effective behind that porous offensive line tonight. Alex Smith is a good QB and a master of the short passing game when he has adequte pass protection. I'm not talking elite pass protection like Romo - just average. His pass protection was WELL below average tonight. If that has been typical this season, then no wonder your offense is so hamstrung.

According to Football Outsiders, the Chiefs offensive line was ranked #22 in the league going into tonight's game. That's poor. Not as poor as the 49ers 30th ranked pass protection, but poor.

KC is 10th in run blocking but only 22nd in pass protection. Keep running the ball.

You can't blame Alex if he has little to no time to throw. I did not see a sack I would blame him for. Every sack was on the Offensive line being offensive.


Link to Football Outsiders below:



http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

Discuss Thrower 11-30-2014 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 11158855)
I don't see many Chiefs games.

No QB would have been effective behind that porous offensive line tonight. Alex Smith is a good QB and a master of the short passing game when he has adequte pass protection. I'm not talking elite pass protection like Romo - just average. His pass protection was WELL below average tonight. If that has been typical this season, then no wonder your offense is so hamstrung.

According to Football Outsiders, the Chiefs offensive line was ranked #22 in the league going into tonight's game. That's poor. Not as poor as the 49ers 30th ranked pass protection, but poor.

You can't blame Alex if he has little to no time to throw. I did not see a sack I would blame him for. Every sack was on the Offensive line being offensive.


Link to Football Outsiders below:



http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

The best player in KC got 14 touches.

14.

Eleazar 11-30-2014 11:16 PM

He is jealous of David Carr's offensive lines

johnny961 11-30-2014 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 11158606)
NO WRs NO protection. Against a top 5 defense and pass rush. Not his fault.

Not saying Alex is HOF material by a long shot, but this statement is truth. With the glaring weaknesses we have on our OL and receiving corps you can't really fault the average qb. Our pass blocking sucked ass. More plays than not Alex had not even completed his drop back and had defenders in his face. Run blocking was nothing to write home about either. Then add in a weak receiving corps and it exacerbates the issue even more.

BigCatDaddy 11-30-2014 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 11158822)
You do know that Smith has 1 goddamn pass over 20 yards this year right? The ****ing offense is stale unless Charles runs the ball or gets a dump off.

THAT'S ALEX SMITH.

Yeah, the broadcasters lit his ass up with those stats.

dirk digler 11-30-2014 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11158807)
AS had that kind of talent ONE YEAR in SF and got them farther than the Chiefs have been since miniskirts were a BRAND NEW INVENTION!!

But he still didn't win the SB and the next year he got replaced and that guy took the team to the SB.

I don't know, I just think that even if AS had Dez Bryant and Julio Jones on both sides they would probably average 50 catches and 1 TD\season. That last play were he runs out of bounds instead of throwing it typifies what kind of QB he is.

BigMeatballDave 11-30-2014 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 11158811)
Look a comedian. Private Joker. Hell I like you you can come over and **** my suster.

NOW LET ME SEE YOUR WARFACE!

johnny961 11-30-2014 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11158871)
The best player in KC got 14 touches.

14.

Being down by 14 right off the bat and playing from behind all game probably had some influence on playcalling. But yeah, got to somehow get our rbs involved more considering our weak pass protection.

Kaepernick 11-30-2014 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11158871)
The best player in KC got 14 touches.

14.

Yeah, that is always the problem. You want to feature him every game. Sure the opposing DC will know it, but who cares. He is your best play maker. Ride him.

Makes no sense for Charles to see less than 25 touches a game.

jd1020 11-30-2014 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny961 (Post 11158921)
Being down by 14 right off the bat and playing from behind all game probably had some influence on playcalling. But yeah, got to somehow get our rbs involved more considering our weak pass protection.

You do know that Charles is pretty good at catching the ball right?

Afterall, he was KC's leading receiver last season.

johnny961 11-30-2014 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11158928)
You do know that Charles is pretty good at catching the ball right?

Afterall, he was KC's leading receiver last season.

Sure. Charles is arguably the best all purpose back in the league right now. I was kinda wondering why we did not have in extra blockers kinda like Denver did early on and run outside.

Kaepernick 11-30-2014 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 11158678)
It's not that simple. Your first two points are more than valid. But he doesn't help the situation sometimes. That first pass of the game is the exact reason why teams can load the box and put all that pressure on the oline. He also has missed a number of passes since the BUF game and also taken his fair share of silly sacks.

It's a tough combination of all 3 parts right now on offense.

The early game 20-yard completion to Fasano near the goal line in traffic was a thing of beauty and a thing Alex rarely did with the 49ers. He would usually demand more separation that that. That was a beautiful pass.

Baby Lee 12-01-2014 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 11158885)
But he still didn't win the SB and the next year he got replaced and that guy took the team to the SB.

And lost, with weapons and a defense that 25 of 32 starting QBs in the league, including Smith would've won with, and Tebow was still in the league then.

Kaepernick 12-01-2014 02:02 AM

I really didn't think Alex's play was all that bad tonight and was better than the score reflected. He threw some dandy passes when he got any kind of time behind the deficient offensive line.

Alex ended up with a passer rating 10 points higher than Manning, 95.0 for Alex to 85.3 for Manning. Peyton had the offensive line, the RB and all the weapons.

I don't get to see many Chiefs games and as a 49ers fan I can't say I really want to, but watching this game, it seemed Andy's play calling was much worse than Alex's play and Alex's play was really hurt by a lousy offensive line.

I know what you have in Alex and he doesn't push the ball down field or throw to his WRs much or often, but he is a master of the RB/TE short passing dink and dunk and you can easliy win with that if you have a decent defense.

You guys just ran into a buzz saw in Denver pretty much crushing everybody they've faced this year losing only to Seattle (#1 D), Patriots (red hot offense), and the Rams (trap game or just down game for Broncos).

Personnel wise, you still seem 3-4 years from serious AFC super bowl contention.

This loss wasn't on Alex. Not by a long shot. Not from what I could see.

ThaVirus 12-01-2014 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by johnny961 (Post 11158921)
Being down by 14 right off the bat and playing from behind all game probably had some influence on playcalling. But yeah, got to somehow get our rbs involved more considering our weak pass protection.


Reid had a hand in helping build that 14 point deficit.

Our first possession featured three straight passes then a punt.

Then, after we converted that 4th down and put some points on the board you'd think Reid would let Jamaal get a few more stabs at it.. Nope.

temper11 12-01-2014 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 11158855)
I don't see many Chiefs games.

No QB would have been effective behind that porous offensive line tonight. Alex Smith is a good QB and a master of the short passing game when he has adequte pass protection. I'm not talking elite pass protection like Romo - just average. His pass protection was WELL below average tonight. If that has been typical this season, then no wonder your offense is so hamstrung.

According to Football Outsiders, the Chiefs offensive line was ranked #22 in the league going into tonight's game. That's poor. Not as poor as the 49ers 30th ranked pass protection, but poor.

KC is 10th in run blocking but only 22nd in pass protection. Keep running the ball.

You can't blame Alex if he has little to no time to throw. I did not see a sack I would blame him for. Every sack was on the Offensive line being offensive.


Link to Football Outsiders below:



http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

The only reason the Chiefs offensive line isn't dead last in pass protection by a wide margin is the fact that Reid and Smith have been hiding their deficiencies all year with short passing game and getting the ball out as fast as anyone in the league. The offensive line is beyond suck. I was pleasantly surprised when it appeared that they were able to still be effective, but it has been blatently obvious the last several weeks beginning with the Bills. Charles can't run through it, Smith doesn't even have time for short passing anymore behind it. It's just a complete dumpster fire.

Why did the Chiefs pick Dee Ford again? Is he still on the team?

Jimmya 12-01-2014 06:31 AM

Alex Smith cannot and refuses to show defenses that he can consistently hit a hot route so defenses load the box and usually play with one deep safety.

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 07:03 AM

I figured I'd jump on this morning and see the OL taking the heat for not being able to block all the extra guys Denver was bringing in the first half. This place doesn't disappoint.

Most good QB's BEG to get blitzed - ours can't seem to take advantage when the other team brings extras.

jspchief 12-01-2014 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11159365)
I figured I'd jump on this morning and see the OL taking the heat for not being able to block all the extra guys Denver was bringing in the first half. This place doesn't disappoint.

Most good QB's BEG to get blitzed - ours can't seem to take advantage when the other team brings extras.

Blitzing is supposed to be risky. How would a defense get burned blitzing KC?

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 11159370)
Blitzing is supposed to be risky. How would a defense get burned blitzing KC?

Exactly.

One of the talking heads made a comment about stacking the box and bringing heat when you don't respect the QB.

For all the claims about how "smart" Alex is, I rarely see him read the blitz or get out of bad play calls.

Jimmya 12-01-2014 07:20 AM

Exactly correct warpath. I cannot remember any time this season that Smith hit a hot route on a blitz.

jd1020 12-01-2014 07:29 AM

Smith is a yes man. He doesn't have time to worry about reading a jail break or seeing the defense has this play beat and checking out of it. He just wants to be told what to do and when to do it.

It's actually kind of funny, in a sad way, how a team can line up 8 in the box and not even disguise the fact that they are all coming and this ****er still takes a 7 step drop.

the Talking Can 12-01-2014 08:23 AM

alex smith isn't good enough, and everyone here knows it whether they'll admit it or not

Sandy Vagina 12-01-2014 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 11159464)
alex smith isn't good enough, and everyone here knows it whether they'll admit it or not

Definitely not good enough to excel with this shit OL and lack of run defense.

That's sure enough true.. but that would also be true of 29 other currently starting QBs.

Jimmya 12-01-2014 08:32 AM

And what will your Alex excuses be when we draft linemen? He's a game manager.... Bottom line.

the Talking Can 12-01-2014 08:33 AM

excuses are the only thing his contract bought us

Gravedigger 12-01-2014 08:34 AM

The front office expected this season to be a wash and then hit its stride going into 2015 when we get more picks and we can cut dead weight to free up cap space. I don't expect a ton from this team this year because after completely reworking the OL and the secondary, I am surprised they are 7-5. HOWEVER if they don't produce in Reid/Dorsey/Smiths third year, then we need to walk away and find something better. By succeed I mean win a ****ing playoff game and do what you were brought in and paid handsomely to do.

Sandy Vagina 12-01-2014 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 11159474)
And what will your Alex excuses be when we draft linemen? He's a game manager.... Bottom line.

will these rookie OL be starting? and would they be upgrades?

WE all admit that the OL is shit.. and anyone with a brain admits that the WRs are underwhelming..

So why anyone expects Smith to excel with this is truly absurd.

If Smith had good pass pro and at least a better WR somewhere on the field, you would hear no "excuses."

Until that happens..

The Franchise 12-01-2014 08:47 AM

It's the never ending circle of excuses.

BigCatDaddy 12-01-2014 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11159466)
Definitely not good enough to excel with this shit OL and lack of run defense.

That's sure enough true.. but that would also be true of 29 other currently starting QBs.

And if the Chiefs had the type of defense, WR's, RB's, TE and and O-Line you guys that are lining up to give Smith a blowie insist that it takes for him to be successful then there would be at least 29 other QB's that look pretty damn good to.

Sandy Vagina 12-01-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11159516)
And if the Chiefs had the type of defense, WR's, RB's, TE and and O-Line you guys that are lining up to give Smith a blowie insist that it takes for him to be successful then there would be at least 29 other QB's that look pretty damn good to.

Nope.. that be your hyperbole.

Just one more good WR... a better LG.. a better RT.. and a good ILB.

That should be sufficient... and for upgrading what we have at these spots? Simply would not take leaps and bounds to accomplish.

Discuss Thrower 12-01-2014 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11159524)
Nope.. that be your hyperbole.

Just one more good WR... a better LG.. a better RT.. and a good ILB.

That should be sufficient... and for upgrading what we have at these spots? Simply would not take leaps and bounds to accomplish.

You're ignoring the defense which is has to be top 5 in the league for Smith to be worth a shit.

That defense is two years of solid drafting from being top 15.

Jimmya 12-01-2014 09:11 AM

Espn "the chiefs do not have a qb that can come back from a 14 point deficit, let alone 17-0 as it was last night before Smith inked a first down"

hometeam 12-01-2014 09:19 AM

He cant win games unless the defense plays lights out.

Any QB can win games when the D plays lights out.

Of course, its never Alex Smith fault. Never has been.

Sandy Vagina 12-01-2014 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11159529)
You're ignoring the defense which is has to be top 5 in the league for Smith to be worth a shit.

That defense is two years of solid drafting from being top 15.

Nah. Maybe DJ recovers well.. but I did add ILB. The CBs should improve over time. This defense is already ranked top 10 as is... though I agree, they are not as good as ranked.. but still not a total wreck if the new/old ILBs can stuff the run better. Draft a top WR... add another decent vet at the expense of Avery or Bowe... sign a good vet OL... draft another high one...

one offseason way...

hometeam 12-01-2014 09:23 AM

BTW, defense did there job last night. When the offense has 8 total first downs, 7 3 and outs. What the **** can they do? They where out there for 40 minutes of clock time. FORTY!! Oh yea, they hold Peyton Manning to 5 field goals in the second half. It was his worst game all year, and then people go OMG BUT THE DEFENSE.


Give me a break.

Sandy Vagina 12-01-2014 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 11159552)
BTW, defense did there job last night. When the offense has 8 total first downs, 7 3 and outs. What the **** can they do? They where out there for 40 minutes of clock time. FORTY!! Oh yea, they hold Peyton Manning to 5 field goals in the second half. It was his worst game all year, and then people go OMG BUT THE DEFENSE.


Give me a break.

They did alright later in the game. Early on, they sucked hairy balls. Add to that, allowing 200+ rush yds to CJ Anderson? Yeah... that's a problem.

Fix the OL first.. all starts in the trenches. I really don't think people could sincerely name 5 QBs that would have done well for KC in the first half or later in the game when we clearly needed to pass the ball behind that OL blocking.

QB is always an easy target when you don't like him to begin with.. but Smith can't walk on water to make up for the OL or run D.


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