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Coochie liquor 12-01-2014 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11159484)
I think we've seen Smith at his most brilliant when he has nothing to lose. He did that all game against indy in the playoffs. Whenever he's down two scores, he turns into an excellent qb. He pieced together a few excellent drives late yesterday. But in the two Denver games prior? Smith led an unbelievable comeback late in the game.

It's almost as if as soon as we get to one score, he gets conservative again. If Smith can learn to turn that late game "nothing to lose" switch on full time especially in closing drives, he could be much better. Problem is, this late in his career, it doesn't look likely.
Also the o line he played behind during the Indy playoff game was drastically better than the abortion we have out there now.

KCUnited 12-01-2014 08:53 AM
May as well took a knee on that 4th down to protect Smith.

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11159486)
The fact that Alex still can't identify the blitz and who is going to be open because of said blitz is ****ing infuriating.
But he's one of the smartest QB's in the league. /CP

Sandy Vagina 12-01-2014 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN (Post 11159487)
Maybe he could show some leadership. At least show your team that you have some fight in you. Running out of bounds and giving up is unacceptable. It's like taking a called third strike right down the middle to end the game, go down swinging or get out of town.
Meh... the team didn't deserve a last effort.. and they know it.

Jakemall 12-01-2014 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11159504)
But he's one of the smartest QB's in the league. /CP
How do you identify the pressure when your oline is a sieve?

splatbass 12-01-2014 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Baconeater (Post 11159117)
"It's ok Alex, we're all still making our millions"
I don't really see what is bad about trying to get your QB to stay positive after a loss like that. That is pretty much normal, I would expect any owner or HC to do that to any QB.

Dave Lane 12-01-2014 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 11159197)
That doesn't validate your argument.
Neither does your idiotic couple plays away from SB crap

Eleazar 12-01-2014 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 11159514)
I don't really see what is bad about trying to get your QB to stay positive after a loss like that. That is pretty much normal, I would expect any owner or HC to do that to any QB.
Hunt committed to Smith, and Smith committed to Hunt.

Due to the state of this offensive line, which the front office (and ownership, since he is ultimately responsible for the product on the field) has let seriously deteriorate since last season, Alex Smith is not being put in a position to succeed. I wouldn't blame Smith being frustrated since there are free rushers on every play. What is he supposed to do?

The offensive line and the secondary are a disaster and it's the result of Dorsey and Reid's making over the roster and failing with those position groups.

Reerun_KC 12-01-2014 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11159504)
But he's one of the smartest QB's in the league. /CP
Now you know why you cant win with Sutton... Its Alex Smith /CP

Dave Lane 12-01-2014 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11159506)
Meh... the team didn't deserve a last effort.. and they know it.
Great excuse. Every leader should put that above their locker.

Dave Lane 12-01-2014 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11159536)
Now you know why you cant win with Sutton... Its Alex Smith /CP
Line the 2 of them up shoot both in the head. Save time and money.

Reerun_KC 12-01-2014 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 11159545)
Line the 2 of them up shoot both in the head. Save time and money.
It starts at the top....

Again this team lacks leadership....

ChiefsCountry 12-01-2014 09:32 AM
Well that first pass of the game should tell you all you need to know about Alex Smith. Everything was perfect yet still couldn't hit his receiver.

BigMeatballDave 12-01-2014 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11159504)
But he's one of the smartest QB's in the league. /CP
Actually, no one here really says that, except for the few SF... Whatever they are. It comes from national sports media. Smith IS very intelligent, just not where it matters most. He certainly doesn't have Peyton smarts.

BossChief 12-01-2014 09:39 AM
They were blitzing all night and we kept calling long developing plays.

GET THE ****ING BALL OUT.

They need to do a better job of calling plays to mask the problems of the ol...but maybe that ship has already sailed.

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11159579)
They were blitzing all night and we kept calling long developing plays.

GET THE ****ING BALL OUT.

They need to do a better job of calling plays to mask the problems of the ol...but maybe that ship has already sailed.
It's telling that our QB doesn't seem to check us out of those plays.

I can't believe that a QB as smart as Alex Smith wouldn't be allowed by his coach to audible, so...

Reerun_KC 12-01-2014 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11159585)
It's telling that our QB doesn't seem to check us out of those plays.

I can't believe that a QB as smart as Alex Smith wouldn't be allowed by his coach to audible, so...
Putting trust in Reid is quite laughable...

Alex isn't the answer at QB, anyone with IQ of a box turtle knows that. But to constantly excuse Reid when you can blame Alex is only masking the issue and looking for an escape goat.

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11159592)
Putting trust in Reid is quite laughable...

Alex isn't the answer at QB, anyone with IQ of a box turtle knows that. But to constantly excuse Reid when you can blame Alex is only masking the issue and looking for an escape goat.
How am I excusing Reid there?

He either doesn't trust Alex to audible - which is laughable considering all the "smartest QB in the league" talk - or Smith really isn't capable of reading the blitz and making the proper adjustments.

Both are a reflection on Reid, as HE hand-picked Alex.

Reerun_KC 12-01-2014 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11159596)
How am I excusing Reid there?

He either doesn't trust Alex to audible - which is laughable considering all the "smartest QB in the league" talk - or Smith really isn't capable of reading the blitz and making the proper adjustments.

Both are a reflection on Reid, as HE hand-picked Alex.
Forgive me as I wasn't solely directing that at you OTWP58, I was making more of a generalized statement of CP when it comes to QB's and excape goats..

But if the QB fails that is hand picked by the coach, then both need to go when in the end. Reid shouldn't stay here longer than AS.

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11159608)
Forgive me as I wasn't solely directing that at you OTWP58, I was making more of a generalized statement of CP when it comes to QB's and excape goats..

But if the QB fails that is hand picked by the coach, then both need to go when in the end. Reid shouldn't stay here longer than AS.
Fair enough.

BossChief 12-01-2014 10:00 AM
Part of the blame has to fall on Dorsey for letting quality linemen walk and replacing them with TERRIBLE players.

And going into the deepest WR draft in history and not drafting one.

ThaVirus 12-01-2014 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11159486)
The fact that Alex still can't identify the blitz and who is going to be open because of said blitz is ****ing infuriating.

Agreed.

Jakemall 12-01-2014 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11159579)
They were blitzing all night and we kept calling long developing plays.

GET THE ****ING BALL OUT.

They need to do a better job of calling plays to mask the problems of the ol...but maybe that ship has already sailed.
This was running through my head all game.

Pablo 12-01-2014 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11159622)
Part of the blame has to fall on Dorsey for letting quality linemen walk and replacing them with TERRIBLE players.

And going into the deepest WR draft in history and not drafting one.
Well, yeah.

Dorsey is the architect behind all of this. He's the brilliant mind that ignored glaring personnel deficiencies. He's the only that seems to have pissed away numerous high draft picks on abortion-level/decidedly average players. This was his vision I suppose. Congrats.

The life of a Chiefs fans is pretty cool.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-01-2014 11:06 AM
I'm sorry but I have a very hard time giving Alex much blame for last night...

that was the worst OL performance I've seen from KC in ? Hell I don't even know. We already know the WR situation.

If anything I respect Alex even more for making it out of that game alive, and with 2 TD's somehow.

Mav 12-01-2014 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11159504)
But he's one of the smartest QB's in the league. /CP
Its cute how you only show up when shit is bad.

Mav 12-01-2014 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 11159750)
Well, yeah.

Dorsey is the architect behind all of this. He's the brilliant mind that ignored glaring personnel deficiencies. He's the only that seems to have pissed away numerous high draft picks on abortion-level/decidedly average players. This was his vision I suppose. Congrats.

The life of a Chiefs fans is pretty cool.
I like some moves he made. But his first round picks have been bad. Although i don't fault him for Fisher. I works of taken Joekell myself but the talent was so meh. Honestly the only guy i thought was special was star. But you don't gamble with heart issues.

ToxSocks 12-01-2014 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11159799)
I'm sorry but I have a very hard time giving Alex much blame for last night...

that was the worst OL performance I've seen from KC in ? Hell I don't even know. We already know the WR situation.

If anything I respect Alex even more for making it out of that game alive, and with 2 TD's somehow.
Im not down on Alex like others are. He made some great throws last night when he had a good, clean pocket. That O-line was ****ing awful though.

Alex....he's exactly who i thought he was, maybe a bit better.

Mav 12-01-2014 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11159818)
Im not down on Alex like others are. He made some great throws last night when he had a good, clean pocket. That O-line was ****ing awful though.

Alex....he's exactly who i thought he was, maybe a bit better.
I only recall two really bad passes.

The first one to avery, and the miss to bowe. Other than that i thought he did well.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-01-2014 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11159818)
Im not down on Alex like others are. He made some great throws last night when he had a good, clean pocket. That O-line was ****ing awful though.

Alex....he's exactly who i thought he was, maybe a bit better.
I actually felt sorry for him and Jamaal last night. They knew they were getting drilled after every play, and none of the lineman seemed to give a shit. Only Kelce.

Mav 12-01-2014 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11159831)
I actually felt sorry for him and Jamaal last night. They knew they were getting drilled after every play, and none of the lineman seemed to give a shit. Only Kelce.
I've never piled on sutton. But they should fire him if Rex Ryan is canned. They need some swagger on defense.

Von Miller is back there hip gyrating after sacks and the chiefs did nothing about it. They need toughness. Too many pansies on defense.

BigBeauford 12-01-2014 11:23 AM
It's always dangerous when an owner and QB get too close.
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Discuss Thrower 12-01-2014 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11159846)
I've never piled on sutton. But they should fire him if Rex Ryan is canned. They need some swagger on defense.

Von Miller is back there hip gyrating after sacks and the chiefs did nothing about it. They need toughness. Too many pansies on defense.
If losing Berry and DJ, being unable to rotate Poe off the line due to no one good being behind him and struggling to find OLBs worth a shit mean the defense is totally worthless, then it's time to move on from the 3-4.

Just Passin' By 12-01-2014 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 11159525)
Neither does your idiotic couple plays away from SB crap
Actually, that does, since the argument was about whether or not Smith could win in the playoffs, and the fact that he was a couple of snaps away from the Super Bowl means that he had already won in the playoffs.

Dumbass.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-01-2014 11:28 AM
I would love to get Rex Ryan if and when he is fired. Damn that'd be nice.

All I wanted last night was to see the forehead get hit around a little. Just a little physicality. But nah, our guys won't hit him if they don't get there. That's what beats PM. Hitting him enough that he starts forcing things too soon.

It's like Sutton said "no late hit fouls, boys. Gotta get there in 2 seconds!"

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11159804)
Its cute how you only show up when shit is bad.
It's cute how bad you are at math.

30 football related posts from Pats game to October 31. Chiefs record?

3-1

11 football related posts in November. Chiefs record?

3-2.

Whoops.

KC native 12-01-2014 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11159799)
I'm sorry but I have a very hard time giving Alex much blame for last night...

that was the worst OL performance I've seen from KC in ? Hell I don't even know. We already know the WR situation.

If anything I respect Alex even more for making it out of that game alive, and with 2 TD's somehow.
When you see the team loading up the box to blitz and your QB can't recognize that an audible to a hot route, then the defense is going to continue to ****ing do that.

Alex is paid too much to not be able to recognize and react to that.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-01-2014 11:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11159899)
When you see the team loading up the box to blitz and your QB can't recognize that an audible to a hot route, then the defense is going to continue to ****ing do that.

Alex is paid too much to not be able to recognize and react to that.
You think our WRs can get open on a hot route vs. Chris Harris? Even Roby?

Nah man. We got bigger problems.

RealSNR 12-01-2014 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 11159480)
Heh. Looks like someone's pussy is a little sore.

You have to get on the field in order to make plays, you ****ing dipshit. See exhibit A: Travis Kelce if your little brain has trouble with this concept.

When Avant finally got in the game, I saw him IMMEDIATELY make two catches and then get unequivocally ****ed out of his third catch by a mugging from a Broncos DB that went uncalled.

First game with the team, and already producing more than our 50 million dollar number one receiver in the biggest game of the season.

Bowe 2 catches for 19 yards.

Avant 2 catches for 30 yards.

Talk more shit, I could really use the laughs. Maybe you could tell that story again about how catching the football isn't really all that important for a wide receiver in the nfl.
If you can stop ****ing that strawman for two seconds, tell me what was wrong about anything I said when it comes to receivers. And that includes Jerry Rice.

You can't.

I, however, can point to a lot of stupid shit you said. And that includes the messy jizz web you weaved yourself into regarding your boy Avant.

But that's okay. The dumbest reeruns on the board like threebag agree with you. At least you got that going for you, chump.

Hootie 12-01-2014 11:45 AM
I don't hate or feel bad for Alex Smith at all.

We pay him a lot of money to deal with our dogshit line.

He'll be ok.

KC native 12-01-2014 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11159913)
You think our WRs can get open on a hot route vs. Chris Harris? Even Roby?

Nah man. We got bigger problems.
It's not hard to get open on hot routes. Even our dogshit WR corps can manage that.

Mav 12-01-2014 12:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11159864)
It's cute how bad you are at math.

30 football related posts from Pats game to October 31. Chiefs record?

3-1

11 football related posts in November. Chiefs record?

3-2.

Whoops.
Admittedly, i rarely pay attention to you. Just seems when you so post is the same boring negative crap.

The Franchise 12-01-2014 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11159804)
Its cute how you only show up when shit is bad.
It's cute how you're a fan of more than one team.

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11159969)
It's cute how you're a fan of more than one team.
LMAO

Mav 12-01-2014 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11159969)
It's cute how you're a fan of more than one team.
That's all you got? Super save a Ho to the rescue. I understand, he can't take care of himself so he sends the mutt patrol to fight his battles.

It's good. He needs friends like you.

I am a man and can fight my own battles.

Mav 12-01-2014 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11159974)
LMAO
That's really that funny to you?

You are comedy deprived.

Pablo 12-01-2014 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11159916)
I don't hate or feel bad for Alex Smith at all.

We pay him a lot of money to deal with our dogshit line.

He'll be ok.
Yeah. I can't feel sorry for a guy that won't even chuck it up on 4th and forever at the end of a beat-down.

He knew what he was signing up for. He wanted to be the man.

QB's in this league will ALWAYS get undue praise as well as undue scrutiny. It comes with the territory. Don't like it, don't cash the checks.

RealSNR 12-01-2014 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11159998)
That's all you got? Super save a Ho to the rescue. I understand, he can't take care of himself so he sends the mutt patrol to fight his battles.

It's good. He needs friends like you.

I am a man and can fight my own battles.
Mutt patrol? Is that a Cleveland Browns thing?

Mav 12-01-2014 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11160023)
Mutt patrol? Is that a Cleveland Browns thing?
Nah. I was watching old looney tunes cartoons. yoy know the big bull dog with the little yipper ass kissing mutt running along side. Yeah. That's how i view pestilence. He just comes out of no where for no reason.

And i like the guy most of the time. This wasn't one of those times.

Discuss Thrower 12-01-2014 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11159914)
If you can stop ****ing that strawman for two seconds, tell me what was wrong about anything I said when it comes to receivers. And that includes Jerry Rice.

You can't.

I, however, can point to a lot of stupid shit you said. And that includes the messy jizz web you weaved yourself into regarding your boy Avant.

But that's okay. The dumbest reeruns on the board like threebag agree with you. At least you got that going for you, chump.
He ignored every source I found in 5 minutes of searching that said the WCO relies solely on separation from receivers to be effective so what do you expect?

Wallcrawler 12-01-2014 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11159914)
But that's okay. The dumbest reeruns on the board like threebag agree with you. At least you got that going for you, chump.



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ThaVirus 12-01-2014 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11159913)
You think our WRs can get open on a hot route vs. Chris Harris? Even Roby?



Nah man. We got bigger problems.

You're right. Our WRs are literally never open on any play ever.

Sandy Vagina 12-01-2014 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11159967)
Admittedly, i rarely pay attention to you. Just seems when you so post is the same boring negative crap.
Seems like some kind of work release program. OTW and is butt buddy htis? would show up here with their Alex-driven miseries for a week.. a few days... and then disappear for a month. Then, back they come, if just for a short while... always with the same Alex is the Antichrist agenda... then gone again.

Reerun_KC 12-01-2014 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11160083)
You're right. Our WRs are literally never open on any play ever.
This group of WR's is so bad and so irrelevant in the NFL its amazing...

I don't think I have ever seen a group so pathetic as this group.. Impressive feet by the Chiefs...

petegz28 12-01-2014 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11159202)
Why was San Francisco in a position where two special teams screw ups ended their season to begin with
Drew Brees. Ever heard of him?

Baby Lee 12-01-2014 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN (Post 11159487)
Maybe he could show some leadership. At least show your team that you have some fight in you. Running out of bounds and giving up is unacceptable. It's like taking a called third strike right down the middle to end the game, go down swinging or get out of town.
No it's not, because in baseball, so long as you don't give up the 3rd out the game is never over.

MahiMike 12-01-2014 04:28 PM
Broncos are just better and we all know it.

Hammock Parties 12-01-2014 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 11160710)
Broncos are just better and we all know it.
Raiders too eh?

Jakemall 12-01-2014 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Count Alex's Wins (Post 11160747)
Raiders too eh?
Every team if the OL plays like that and the defense can't learn to tackle.

JC averaged 3.5 yards and Alex was sacked 6 times and pressured how many?

Defense has allowed how many yards rushing?



That's a losing combo.

Rausch 12-01-2014 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 11160762)
Every team if the OL plays like that and the defense can't learn to tackle.

JC averaged 3.5 yards and Alex was sacked 6 times and pressured how many?

Defense has allowed how many yards rushing?



That's a losing combo.
Hard for the Defense to shut a team down with three consecutive 3 and outs to start the game...and then three turnovers...and then 400 sacks...

Simply Red 12-01-2014 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 11159112)
Per Adam Teicher

Clark Hunt and Alex Smith had private talk in locker room. It ended with Hunt saying "Keep your head up."



http://i.imgur.com/uIxuWYM.gif

Jakemall 12-01-2014 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11160771)
Hard for the Defense to shut a team down with three consecutive 3 and outs to start the game...and then three turnovers...and then 400 sacks...
Actually, it's easier in the 1st qtr than later..not usually gassed in the 1st...but your point isn't wrong. Yesterday was a cluster**** and I don't think anyone looked good...except the kick returning team.

Simply Red 12-01-2014 04:57 PM
I really no longer care - not only am I not going to a game - I doubt I'll watch any more that closely.

Chief Roundup 12-01-2014 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 11159170)
It should have been

"Keep your head up. We'll buy you some wide receivers, and an offensive lineman or two, next year."
We won't be buying him hardly anything. We might be drafting him some help at those positions though.

Mav 12-01-2014 10:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 11160774)
He was kicked out of my college.

Jakemall 12-01-2014 10:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11161646)
He was kicked out of my college.
http://i.imgur.com/uIxuWYM.gif

RealSNR 12-02-2014 12:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 11160774)
Do you have a link to that gif of that girl in the stands at a game (I think) who yells out something naughty and then covers her mouth like she's really embarrassed?

That one's my favorite. I also need to use it for something else.


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