I used to feel that way, but now that I'm in my mid-late 30s with a 5 month-old, I wonder if they did it right. They'll be empty nesters and free to do what they please when I have a 10 year-old. It's a trade-off I guess. They didn't get to enjoy their 20s while I was out seeing the world, but they will get to do it in their 40s and 50s with more money.

Good for you, man.

It's your life, whatever floats your boat.:thumb:

What the ****?

How am I going to have grandkids if I don't have kids?

Jesus.

I got a niece, that's plenty.

you should always have kids later in life so there is less of a chance that you out live them. I have several friends that had kids at 20 and now they are 36 and 37 car accidents and drug overdoses are killing them.

and when you are 90 they are still fairly young and energetic and can take care of you amirite

Do Athans kids still call you mom?

;)

Get a puppy too.

Guys should have dogs.

I will definitely get a dog when I'm married.

Dogs should have two people around.

I had my first when I was 42 and my second just months before my 47th.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Hah.

I often miss the single days. Such a care free lifestyle.

If you both want the same things in life, being married can be care-free, too.

I bet. It's just tough for me to see at the moment. I'm in a relationship with a girl that just sees things differently than me. We're always arguing about something petty... It takes its toll.

would've been ****ing nice to enjoy my evening with some Showtime Anytime or HBO GO or perhaps a little Netflix

thanks a lot loser hackers

There is definitely something to be said for having had the opportunity to sew my wild oats before settling down.

Is the story behind this in the dating thread? I wanna read it.

it was a quick back and forth in the dating thread where Clay went on some sort of speed date or something, really got along with the 'gorgeous' girl he was with, and then when the bill came they agreed to split it

...

you know

...

because that's what normal people do

Well, there's that, too. :D

For me, it was perfect. My wife and I married in 2001, bought a home and remodeled it, got LASIK eye surgery and traveled. Cabo, Cancun, Vancouver, New York, San Fran, Tahiti, Florida, Italy and more. Road trips and weekend getaways up and down the California coast.

We really did pretty much everything we wanted to do before starting a family and now, we have no regrets. We enjoy raising the kids and everything that comes along with it, easy or difficult.

Not to mention, I would have been a terrible father when I was in my early 20's and probably even my early 30's. I wasn't into to anything but me and fortunately, one never slipped through the goalie.

It starts here.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=606

And as it points out, HOOTIE, I was all ready to pay the whole tab until she offered to pay the whole thing. Then we split.

That doesn't make it any better. At all.

It would be like you walking with a bunch of heavy grocery bags into your apartment complex and some gorgeous lady notices your struggles and says, "here, let me get those for you" and then you taking her up on that offer, or giving her half of them.

Man card revoked.

It's neither better or worse.

It's absolutely irrelevant since it has zero bearing on our interactions going forward.

It does indicate that she's a pretty cool gal, though.

I'm sure there is a better analogy out there than that

We really need to get Hootie and GoChiefs to go on a double date together with two females of their choice. It would be the greatest story of all time. Or the worst.

Yep, I was a broke ass when I was in my 20s, I was better off staying home with the wife and kid anyway. Now I'm in my 40s, much more financially stable, he's grown up and I can pretty much do whatever the hell I want. It's ****ing awesome.

http://www.askmen.com/dating/curtsmi...ng_advice.html

enjoy the read, Clay, especially this fine gem:

It had be until it said 'it's the honorable thing to do' and that's when I realized why you two split that first bill LMAO

We split it because she offered.

Because she's nice.

That's it. That's literally ****ing it, dumbass. There is no game being played here. She wants to see me again. Despite the fact that she is $20 poorer today. HOLY ****ING SHIT.

Dumbass.

He's a 35 year old that is still playing the dating game like a 15 year old. He's making up for things he never got to experience as a teenager. Saying things like "I look for girls with no father figures because I don't want to have that talk with dad!"

uh, Clay that 'talk' only happens when you're dating 15 year olds and you're also 15.

Pretty sure as a 35 year old you're not going to have to worry about someone's dad giving you the 'talk' about their 25-35 year old daughter. Or, really, even if they're 18.

And if an 18 year old is choosing a 35 year old Clay Wendler than ... pretty sure that dad already knows she's ****ed.

Wrong. It happens when you're interested in putting a ring on their finger, dumbass.

PS - I'm 32.

well no shit she offered

every first date I've ever been on the girl I'm with reaches for her purse when the bill comes out or says something like "no you don't have to pay!"

duh

It's dating 101. Literally. 101.

If you have a miserable date and the girl wants to split and you know you'll never want to see her again, then, fine...if you want to be a total asshole and split then more power to you! (As an adult, I'd still pay, and just be happy the date was over...but whatever)...

But awful.

Just awful.

But I guess this is the same guy who refused to tip until he was 25 years old so ... why should I be surprised?

See? Hours of entertainment. Like a reality show. "The Double Date with Hootie and GoChiefs - tonight on Spike TV."

Nothing you say...literally NOTHING you are saying in regards to the tab debate...matters.

IT DOES NOT AND DID NOT MATTER.

IT WAS IRRELEVANT.

Well, I thought you may have been talking about that talk ... but ... again, if you can't handle asking for permission from the father of the girl you're wanting to marry than you're about as awkward as well, everyone already figures.

Be careful what you wish for Clay. Girls with daddy issues aren't just dirty.

They're crazy.

I can "handle" it, I just think it's ****ing stupid.

If I'm in love with a girl I'm going to wed her no matter what daddy thinks. I'm not interested in proving myself to him.

**** all that shit. This isn't 1955. This isn't an episode of The Bachelor.

The best part would be getting the bill at the end and Clay reading out, "ok Mary owes $12 plus 1/4 of the 9% sales tax so about $12.90, Jamie you owe $14.84 because you got the sauteed mushroom upsell plus the diet soda, Hootie 2.0 you owe $26.48 because of those two cosmo's you ordered, and I'll pay the rest of the $7.25 on the bill since I only had a grilled cheese with no crust. Oh **** I forgot about the tip...let's start this over. What's 12% of $12.90?"

Hahahahaha.....this whole exchange has been excellent.


Clay, you didn't tip until you were 25?

Well, if a girl ever decides to marry you, I'm sure the least of her concerns are going to be whether or not you asked her father for permission. She already stooped to the Internet to find a partner, pretty sure she's not worried about if said partner is an old fashioned gentleman ...

Or put the tip in.

The first time my wife and I had lunch together we paid our own bills. That seems to have worked out ok.

I don't ****ing remember. I was a cheap bastard for a long time though.

I still don't tip more than 15%.

I also never asked her father for permission to marry her.

well that's good for you, then

I guess

I couldn't imagine splitting a bill with a girl I was really into on our first date ... like, could not imagine. It would also never happen, so I really don't have to imagine it, anyways.

No one is stooping anymore finding their SO on the internet.

Everyone is doing it.

****ing model looking chicks and guys making 150k a year are doing it.

Just shut up and play your Xbox.

you guys are cheap ****s

holy ****

if I ever do get married or ever do have children I will know two things:

1) on our first date, I paid
2) our children will know that on their first dates, if they are boys, they pay. If they are girls, they do not pay.

and a bonus 3) tip 20% you cheap miserable ****s

Hootie, I'm watching HBOGo now on my Xbox one. So it seems to be back up. Just letting you know.

I thought that was closer to 29.

pure laziness

I'll find my girls like an adult perusing the local bars

the internet is just such a sleezy dating pipeline...I'll stick to grabbin' dudes butts as they walk by and then vigorously pointing at the girl next to me and hoping she finds it funny and lets me roofie her drink a few times and then falls for the 'man we were both really drunk!' line in the morning and wants a 2nd date (that I'd pay for, btw)

Listen, it was just the universe bringing me some good karma. Because I paid for drinks AND bowling with another girl the previous week...and I will never see her again.

The universe said...gee man...what a great guy you are...just takin' a bitch out and showing her a damn good time and paying her way. You know what man...that chick doesn't even deserve you...here's one that does and by the way, she's gonna split this bill with you. Enjoy man. ****ing enjoy. You earned this one.

still ****ing down for me **** suck cock ****

you paid for drinks AND bowling?!

wow

you deserve a ton of great karma for that

You must be under the mistaken impression that your kids are actually going to listen to you.

And I tip anywhere from 20-30%.

I hope it works out with her man. I really do.


In the back of her mind though....there's always gonna be that check incident on the first date..

$60 is a lot for a first date with someone you've never met.

Would you spend that on a stranger?

I did. Because I was ****ing into her.

I played that shit by the Hootie book, Hootie. And what did it get me?

Jack squat, Hootie.

Jack squat.

**** your rules.

She sounds hot.

maybe because you bowl like the bundle of sticks you make yourself out to be and she was more looking for a guy who could bowl like an adult

what's her #

Bowling is ok. Take it slow. Don't get too excited and go squirting one into her belly

Hootie consistently rolls 170's

She was pretty hot. But I liked the girl who split better. In every way.

Karma is on my side, Hootie. **** your rules.

I bowl infrequently. Also, winning is not the point.

I ask chicks out for bowling for two reasons:

1. If they want to bounce to a second location to go bowling with you, they probably like you.

2. It's a great way to get a good look at their ass.

That chick was like a blonde Anne Hathaway though.

My tongue was hanging out. Of course I paid for everything. I felt like a rube.

You guys are good buddies now. She looks forward for you wing manning her

If you tip better she will let you motorboat her ass

Chicks never see what I tip. I write it on the receipt.

I think I might just start tipping $1.00 for the hell of it. If I'm picking up the tab it's none of her business what I tip.

I meant if you tip your date better

I should start paying for sex because I certainly pay for not sex.

Stop taking Craigslist hookers bowling. You don't have to feed them either

We just had drinks, no dinner.

I learned my lesson about first-date dinners.

Find a horny cougar. They are fun

I'm looking for something more real.

You can do both. as long as you let it be known from the start. Nothing wrong with practicing for the big game

I honestly don't have time to waste on cougars when I could be spending that time finding. Mrs. Zarth.

I get what you're saying. But once you start worring about time you can put pressure on things. Like its a job. Have fun in the mean time. Your eggs won't dry up!

This is correct! Some women today want to pay on the first date and some don't. If a woman wants to pay half then let her. I just went on a lunch date sat with a cute blonde and she instantly insisted on paying half. We went to movies that night and as I was about to pay she said "I'll let you pay this time".

For all you old timers I'll let you know the same woman bought me sushi tonight. What does that make me?

Also some chics like to play video games if you present it right!

Yeah. I'll join you. Just not in the same room. Cos that'd be gross.

This whole thread was gold.

We're not done. I'm seeing 4 girls this week. Hootie has given me a complex and they are all going to drain my wallet (pending attraction). I will report back.

The bitch.