We need to run those 5 TE sets for Alex

Trendsetting

This fooled me, too.

A rational analysis of that game though breaks down like this though:

1. Jamaal Charles ripped off an incredible TD run.

2. Alex Smith finally put together one TD drive after farting around for the entire game doing nothing.

It was a nice tease by Alex, though. He never did anything like that again the rest of the year and that is why we fell flat on our faces.

Rational, heh.

Who said it needed to be either or?

I just don't think it would be smart to go spending a bunch of free agency dollars on receivers with so many big contracts coming up like Poe, Houston and others.

Uhhhh... I believe Alex played fairly well against a very tough Seahawks D.

C'mon man.

The guy deserves credit for his success as well as his failures.

I'm thinking about the draft too. Not just free agency.

Preferably for me it would be, OL in free agency, maybe a TE if Davis gets cut, Maybe a WR if price fits.

Then go BPA all the way down.

108 passing yards and zero td passes is playing fairly well?

We ran the ball down seattles throat.

Close.
This.
Mfer.
Down mods, because this sentence sums up up his entire tenure here, if Madden had a "Low Confidence" measurement, Smitty would be the guy you trade for Chad Henne.

Not turning it over is a skill, though and turnovers are usually a good predictor of W vs L's.


But when the not turning it over, comes at the expense of missing scoring chances, it starts to weigh the other way.

He barely did jack but hand off, that was surely his lowest passing attempts per game of the year... he didnt throw a pick, thats about it if we want to be honest about it... yay Alex.

Does anyone blame Michael Jordan for the 26 game winning shots that he missed?

If you are a winner people forget your failures, and if you are a loser people dismiss your successes. It is just how it works.

Uhhhh...I believe your not watching the same games as the rest of us

Sure, sure.

It just wasn't much of a success. It was Alex being barely competent in a game the defense won. He had good timing, though.

IMO FA OL have gotten too expensive. Same goes with WRs.

I can't see spending 4 million a year for a guard unless he is otherworldly and spending 8 per year for a WR is just as silly.

This draft has a lot of talent at those positions and the best bang for the buck is to use the draft for those spots.

Charles won that game, period.

Alex was lucky enough to hide from the Seahawks all game.

Well...Alex Smith while boring to us, wins games.

DAT's downfield blocking sealed the deal.

He was completely underused this past season, as was Wilson, which is why I no longer trust Reid and his merry band of offensive retreads.

They all stole a paycheck in 2014 and laughed all the way to the bank.

If they have to spend 4 mil per for a guard, do it and be done with it. Just fix it.

Same with the WR spot.

With Bowe, Hali, Berry coming off the books, they'll have money. Fasano, Devito, the same.

Yeah...10-12 in his last 22 here.

Exactly.

That's why it's imperative that they upgrade the WRs and OL significantly if they are going to give this plan of winning with Alex a real chance.


Can't give the guy that deal and then not relentlessly try to put the pieces around him that help him have every opportunity to have continued success.

Wasn't Wilson hurt or that was revealed after the year?

With the OL being what it was (fault that wherever) the fact that they were able to do what they were on offense surprised me.

Zero WR touchdowns

How is that possible

Heh

:thumb:

IIRC DAT was hurt

Maybe both of them were...also, the WCO especially Reid's version has a shit ton of plays to learn and it's very rare for rookie receivers to step right in to any WCO and produce.

The fact Wilson did towards the end was very promising.

Zero TD's to a wide receiver. Dopey interceptions. Poor decision making.

31 years old to start the 2015 season.

Can't spend that kind of money on starting OL

Gotta afford backup qbs and DL

My interest will be piqued after we win a playoff game. I'll shut up after he hoists his first Lombardi. I'll sing the praises once he has one in each fist and another mounted on the hood of his car.

Huh?

Sure. Gotta have nice things.

Whether you want to admit it or not, a lot of those 49ers fans would love to have him back right now. I know a bunch of them that do.

He's talking about Alex Smith.

It seems like just yesterday Dane thought Alex and Matt Ryan were equals.

FTR I think this could have been a 12 or 13 win team with Matt Ryan last year.

49er fans are dumb.

A lot of the are happy the team got rid of JH, too.

This is not true at all. He had 18 passing TDs, just none of them were to WRs.

I was clearly wrong. While I don't think that Ryan is a HOFer at this point, I think the Chiefs would have won more games with Ryan.

The 2014 Chiefs offensive line is the only reason for my reservation.

Sackless pussy. Can't be fixed.

he'll be OK once dorsey fixes the dogshit OL and drafts a #1 receiver

None that I know. And most of the 49ers fans I know are engineers, so they aren't exactly dumb.

Alex's Smiths mobility was about the only thing that kept him alive this year.

Matt Ryan, behind our OL, woudln't have survived.

Probably not but the 2013 Chiefs with Matt Ryan might have been special

I have to concur with BossChief that all of 49er fans that I know are happy that Harbaugh is gone.

Be careful what you wish for...

True.

The ones that pine for Smith are definitely morons.

IMO if the Chiefs add 2 starting guards, 2 WRs that can get separation, mix in the right veteran here and there, this team can make a run at the Super Bowl NEXT YEAR.

We were already better than SD (really should be on a 4 win streak against them if it weren't for ref BS in the 2013 finale and ijiratutu catching that miracle td) and Denver is obviously rebuilding. Oakland isn't going anywhere.

We already showed we could beat NE and anyone else in their division.

Pittsburgh was beatable.

I think we have more talent than the Ravens.

Cincy?

Indy?

I think with a few upgrades and a strong draft class, we can be in position to beat any team in the AFC in the playoffs if Andy can get Alex to trust everyone (most importantly himself) we can beat ANYONE.

(Even ourselves)

Clearly we know different 49ers fans. I lived there for 6 years and have a lot of friends there, and there are a lot of 49ers fans here in Hawaii. None of the ones I know are happy he is gone. Most of them aren't happy Smith is gone either.

Coming from you that is very ironic....

Do you think bowe plays "money for nothing" on repeat at loud volume?

Alex Smiths mobility and unwillingness to buy time to make big throws (instead choosing to tuck n run quickly) is what made DCs blitz him more and more and caused a lot of those problems.

Can't blitz guys that make you pay by hitting you deep.

Nobody respected our ability to throw deep, so they blitzed safeties and corners on us constantly.

That made the job of the OL harder and harder as the year wore on.

It exposed a weakness that might gave been hidden better if a alex "took what the defense gave him" which a lot of the time was the deep ball.

CLUTCH GENE!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Harbaugh was hated with the power of 27 Marty Schottenheimers in the Bay Area.

Nobody liked his attitude and almost everyone I know up there was glad to see him go.

It's silly, but true.

Does that not speak to you in some kind of profound way?

It does me, its so uniquely awful that I cant help but pay attention.

Alex Smith takes sacks because of his style.

Matt Ryan has been sacked 188 times in his career while throwing 3916 passes

Alex Smith has been sacked 280 times and has only attempted 3149 passes in his career.

Maybe it's because SoCal 49ers fans have a different perspective?

Alex is Alex. You can't fix him. This is what he does. If he gets protection he can be slightly better than average. Without protection he just sucks. Main point here, Alex is average at best. That won't be enough to accomplish the main goal.

We've never seen him with a good group of receivers AND a solid OL.

Anybody that says they know what he would do with those things is simply guessing.

having a dogshit supporting cast minus RB won't be enough to accomplish the goal either

Much as people want to blame the OL, Smith's decline this season was behind pretty much the same OL he played with when the team was on a winning streak. Teams started dialing up the blitz and Smith never seemed to pick them up. That's a problem. If he's not picking up blitzes at 30, he never will. I don't understand why Smith gets so many props for being a smart QB. Seems to make stupid mistakes all the time.

Speaking of not being smart... there's a great article on Rodgers and the deep ball. It was amazing to hear his thought process. Smith doesn't have that. Every single pass is wide open to the bread basket. No fades. No back shoulder throws. No jump balls.

The other thing that bugs me is... Smith will only open his game up if the defense sucks. And I for one don't want to be rooting for the Chiefs' defense to fail just so our QB can grow some balls.

Not to mention all the sacks that ****er takes instead of getting rid of the ball.

Oline, yes..., still will not help him get rid of the ball..

Receiving options?? ****ing Cassel did better with less.. Smith had Bowe and Kelce.. That should of been enough to look average.. Smith sucked this year on reads..

No amount of offensive line or wide receivers will help Alex.

The Chiefs are a lot closer to being the Raiders in terms of competitiveness than they are the Bengals or the Colts.

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2 years ago, if somebody told you to build a team around Alex Smith starting from nothing, what would you say? I know what I'd say. Your defense better win games for you because your QB won't. Give him a good running game because you don't want him throwing all the time. Give him TEs because dude is too afraid to throw to receivers. The Chiefs at full health might have a top 3 defense. They have the best RBs in the league. They have a pretty good set of TEs.

The two areas where they're weak are two areas that Smith doesn't help... at all. He doesn't get rid of the ball quickly or read the blitz which doesn't help the OL. He won't throw to receivers unless they're wide open. Honestly, if the Chiefs add WR or OL options, with everything else Smith has as a supporting cast, there is no excuse for him not to be an AFC champion QB. I personally think even with those things, he's going to fall way short.

Most fans i know and i live in nor cal like that he's gone. They felt he did lose the team. there is the small minority thats casual that things its a bad idea, but the hardcores i know are happy Alex is gone and happy jim is gone. Not sure they are happy about the new coach though. lol i see them mixed on that.

Aaaaaaand/thread.

And every Saturday, he works in the yard

Picks up the dog-doo, hopes that it's hard

(wuff-wuff)

Smith isn't going to magically become a qb he's never been.


Nothing else to say. The only question is whether we waste 4 or 5 years on him.

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2012 is the only time you could put sacks on Alex Smith. He saw the scoreboard with the 49ers up 2 scores and ate the turf vs throwing a pass.

His style is 'my O-Line can not be counted on'. That has been the case for almost his entire career.

Matt Ryan wouldn't and isn't doing anything on this team unless he is bringing a Dome and Julio Jones with him.

Repeating this ignorance doesn't make it true.

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THAT DOG WON'T HUNT. Alex, the ultimate gun shy birddog

Expect max time. We love our average QB's in KC.

No way.

I guarantee that Andy isn't gonna sit back and put Alex on cruise control like Pioli did with Cassel.

If they out pieces around Alex and he doesn't step up, he will be gone.

Oh, you are absolutely correct. I know that. The replacement for AS will be someone that looks and plays like him. Rinse and repeat. That was more my point.

LMAO

Alex runs a "3 yards and a cloud of checkdowns" offense.

Based on what?

IMO Alex needs to be "Donovan McNabb" to keep the job long term.

I think Andy is gonna give Alex a pass this year because the line was so bad, but if he hasn't stepped up after next year...the end will be near for him.

That's the age Andy moved on from McNabb.

We will know a lot more on this subject if they restructure Alex's contract this offseason.

I guess because pro football focus said so, it must be true. It's refreshing to know Alex Smith is middle of the pack considering the guy almost never throws deep and considering the number of times he has a 3 step drop by playcall design.

The point is that I was told by a lot of Chiefs fans not to worry about the Alex Smith trade. Andy Reid wants to draft and develop his own QB just as much as we do, and at the first opportunity to take a quality QB that he can work with, that's exactly what would be done.

"Don't blame Andy Reid for this franchise's past failures in the QB realm."

"There wasn't anything good in 2013. You can't just draft a QB just to draft one."

Well there sat Bridgewater. And we passed on him just like King Carl would have done.

Dorsey/Reid are probably going to approach their next few drafts that way. "We don't need Rodgers, we have Green. We don't need any QB from the 2012 draft, we have Cassel." Rinse and ****ing repeat.