Yeah I think that bs should be top 10.

Got a few new batches:

60. Eddie Lacy
59. Vontae Davis
58. Connor Barwin
57. Brandon Marshall
56. Lavonte David
55. Sheldon Richardson
54. Steve Smith
53. Marcel Dareus
52. Antonio Gates
51. Clay Matthews

50. Desean Jackson
49. Khalil Mack
48. Matt Forte
47. Trent Williams
46. Elvis Dumervil
45. Julius Thomas
44. Robert Quinn
43. Philip Rivers
42. Mario Williams
41. Kam Chancellor

40. Jason Peters
39. Cameron Wake
38. Brent Grimes
37. AJ Green
36. Tyron Smith
35. TY Hilton
34. Tony Romo
33. Von Miller
32. Odell Beckham Jr.
31. Jimmy Graham

30. Drew Brees
29. Lesean McCoy
28. Gerald McCoy
27. Justin Houston
26. Ben Roethlisberger
25. Joe Thomas
24. Ndamukong Suh
23. Joe Haden
22. Russell Wilson
21. Earl Thomas

Apparently he's no Russell Wilson, who came in at #22.

Wow. Houston at 27 is a travesty.

Wilson should probably be higher 22.

24. Ndamukong Suh
23. Joe Haden

What a ****ing joke. They should be no better than 30.

Earl Thomas
Joe Haden
Donkey kong Suh

I'd take Houston over all these guys ranked above him so far.

Matt Ryan made the list

Therefore
Invalidated

Why is there no video for Justin Houston?

This means Charles is going to be ranked lower than Houston? Didn't see that coming.

Highway robbery

I'm guess the OL that Houston consistently abused didn't vote for him...

Is poe going to be on the list?

I do notice that Houston is 6 spots ahead of Von Miller. ROFL

LOL Where the **** is Hef?

This brings up a good point. I was 100% certain that Houston would be ranked lower than Poe and Charles. If they don't make it, then that's just stupid.

Pretty crazy. Aldon smith was #7 after his 19.5 sack season and Houston is a much more complete player. IMHO I think a reason he's so underrated is because he isn't as flashy as some of the other guys. Von has super human like athleticism, Aldon has super human like strength and burst. Houston is still a great athlete but not quite like those guys. Houston is the wladimir klitschko, or emmitt smith of pass rushers.

Justin Houston doesn't have super human like strength?

This list ****ing sucks. I swear it looks like it should be from 2013.

Shut your whore mouth.

Julio Jones coming in at top 20, I love it. What else should you expect from the best damn wide receiver in football? :thumb:

So wait, Demaryius Thomas and Peyton are certainly in the top 20, but what about Chris Harris? My guess is that he wouldn't be in the top 20 of a player-voted list, but I'd expect him to be in the top 100.

I can't see any of those guys making this list.

I wouldn't think he would be ranked higher than Houston. But then again, Houston did something that only two other players have ever done (Gastineau and Jared Allen - Strahan didn't earn it), and he still only ranked 27th.

So are we guessing who the top 20 are? I'll throw out in no order:

Jamaal Charles
The Mummified Corpse of Peyton Manning
JJ Watt
Maybe Demarco Murray this year
Richard Sherman
Tom Brady unless he's disqualified
Aaron Rodgers
Calvin Johnson

Maybe
Overrated Lesean McCoy
The former Drew Brees?
Marshawn Lynch?
Luke Kuechly

Drew Brees and Lesean McCoy have already been ranked, if I'm not mistaken.

Julio Jones, Calvin Johnson, Antonio Brown, Demaryius Thomas, Dez Bryant, Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Jamaal Charles, Demarco Murray, Marshawn Lynch, Rob Gronkowski, JJ Watt, Richard Sherman and Darrelle Revis are the biggest names yet to be ranked.

Obviously there are a few not coming to mind for me at the moment..

Oh.

I have lost face.

I'm both embarrassed and proud to say that I'm losing touch with the NFL these days. Other than Watt, who's the consensus second-best d-lineman? And who are the consensus best o-lineman? I'm drawing a blank.

Consensus best offensive lineman would have to be Joe Thomas, I'd think. Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick, Trent Williams, Marshal Yanda are other big names but they've all already been mentioned.

Second best defensive lineman really depends on system and your opinion. Robert Quinn, Terrell Suggs, and Ndamukong Suh are probably the biggest names after Watt.

So there may not be a lineman other than Joe Thomas in this last 20? Or maybe Suggs, though I think of him more as an LB.

Joe Thomas is ranked 25th.

The NFL.com video is just the reaction show stuff.. anyone find the actual vid?

So there are no linemen in the top 20 other than Watt? That's discriminatory.

It's very confusing. I don't understand why his video is not like all the others'. It's almost like they went to a commercial break when he was announced.

I don't know. But Joe Thomas getting ranked above Houston shows what a ****ing gimmick this thing is. I can't stand to think of who else is in that top 20. If Houston was in Dallas, he'd be ranked in the top 10.

Jordy Nelson, Le'veon Bell, and two more I can't think of.

Unless Houston didn't want no part of it.

no fantasy points for single player sacks?

Mack Attack!

I was bored and finally clicked on this thread.
I don't pay any attention to players' thoughts on players, and this list illustrates perfectly the reason I don't.

However, I found this post very interesting, and I did some research and found that this list that you've provided of RBs that have averaged 5.0 ypc for 5 consecutive seasons, or more is wrong.

Neither Brown nor Sanders averaged 5.0 ypc for more than 3 consecutive seasons.

Brown did it for 3 consecutive seasons '63 to '65, his final 3 seasons, and averaged more than 5.0 ypc only twice in his previous 6 years.

Barry Sanders only had 2 consecutive years, '96 and '97.
He only had 3 other seasons in which he managed that average.

The only other RB that had 5 consecutive seasons of 5.0 ypc or more is Marion Motley, and he never had more than 157 carries in that stretch.

Surprisingly, Mercury Morris is next on the list, with 4 consecutive seasons,
but he only had fewer than 100 carries in 3 of those seasons.

Adrian Petterson, for reference has never put together any consecutive 5.0 or more ypc seasons, and in fact has had only 2 seasons in which he has achieved that mark.

LeSean McCoy also hasn't had consecutive seasons, and also has only 2 seasons that he has achieved that number.

Jamaal Charles has yet to have a season in which he has dipped below 5.0 ypc.

Its been too long to remember where I read the Brown/Sanders stat, but rest assured I wasn't just pulling stats out of my ass, it had to have come from some major site... where did you find that neither ever had 5 years at 5.0?

Anyway, I'd kinda forgot about that rant... thanks for dragging it up, kinda proud of that one.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...att_career.htm

I clicked on the individual players from there.

They need to put Jamaal Charles on the cover of SI with UNDERAPPRECIATED as the title.

The guy has been nothing short of amazing every year running behind crap lines the whole way.

I'd love to see him get to run behind a premier line for a couple years.

I'll take your word for it from there.

Makes JC all the more impressive, not even those two all timers could match his feat... yet for every article I read around the web praising Charles as the top dog (almost always KC fan sites at that), there are 10 apiece for the Bells, McCoys and Petersons of the league.

****ing Buffalo is getting MAD press these days, and why? because all of these east coast hacks and everyone else that takes their cues from them cant get enough of Rex Ryan and Shady McCoy.

Branden Albert, Rodney Hudson and Ryan Lilja are the 3 best O-Linemen he's run behind.

It's a really pathetic list of names after those 3.

Sure would be nice if the OL can step it up

Make it 4 you forgot Brain Waters.

Jamaal Charles coming in at number 12!
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Jamaal over Julio lololol

This list is kind of weird Sherman at 11? Jfc guy is already damn near a hof lock.

And Patrick Peterson is the most overrated player in the nfl. Guy gave up what 200 yards to Julio? Damn near 180 to Maclin.

Just looked it up he gave up 187 and 2 tds to Maclin and 189 and a td to Julio. 226 and 2 tds to demaryius Thomas.

When one player is the whole offense, that's how it goes.

Luke Keuchly, Joe Haden and Patrick Peterson over Justin Houston?

What a ****ing joke

Yeah, that's a whole lot of stupid right there.

No, it's not. How often do you think defensive players get to 22 sacks in a season?

I may be wrong, but I think sac was in agreement with RunKC.