**** yes!!!!!!!!

****ing sweet.

Can't wait to watch the dude rape and pillage for years to come.

Also, TribalElder is way behind on posting this.

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So the Chiefs now have 2 QB-sized contracts.

and still no QB:evil:

At least one of them is worth it...

**** yeah! !

I didn't try to give you my approval, you bitch.

I simply stated that we might want to see how it's structured.

If it's back loaded, then the cap hit over the first 4 seasons might not be nearly as harsh as it appears, at first glance.

And you can take your weak ass threats and shove them.

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The only bad part of this deal is that with the direction the NFL is heading it may be illegal to touch the QB by the time this contract is up

When Clark says he wants something, he gets it.

Given that the cap is about 143 mil, and is expected to rise over the next few years, a 16 mil average cap hit over the next 4 years, for instance, isn't that harsh.

t's great when CP is united with joy

Milkman dupe account?

Cause only milkman is this angry 99% of the time.

Good thing Clark is so cheap!

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Glad this deal got done... the Chiefs are complete as they begin training camp in a few weeks.

No hold-outs, no major injuries... no excuses.

2016 Free Agents:

Hussain Abdullah
Jeff Allen
Jason Avant
Eric Berry
Tyvon Branch
Chase Daniel
Mike DeVito
Cyrus Gray
Tamba Hali
Junior Hemingway
Jaye Howard
Derrick Johnson
Josh Martin
Sean Smith
Donald Stephenson
Frank Zombo

Would be nice to keep both Abdullah and Berry (God willing he recovers and can play football again at a high level) so we don't have to fill in a massive crater at safety with rookies and dumpster dive players.

We also could really use two of the three: Jaye Howard, Mike DeVito, and Derrick Johnson, again depending on how well they recover from injury.

Everyone else we can make do without, including Sean Smith. Our depth is locked and ****ing LOADED at CB.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-longterm-deal

Chiefs sign Justin Houston to long-term deal

Deadlines spur action.

The Chiefs and franchised-tagged outside linebacker Justin Houston nailed down a long-term deal before Wednesday's 4 p.m. ET deadline.

Houston inked a six-year, $101 million deal that includes $52.5 million in guarantees, NFL Media's Albert Breer and Rand Getlin report. NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport adds that Houston's signing bonus is $20.5 million and his contract includes $32.5 million fully guaranteed.

The contract is the richest deal in Chiefs' history and largest for any linebacker.

Houston was reported to want J.J. Watt-type money. He got it, earning slightly more than Watt's six-year, $100 million deal that came with $30.9 million guaranteed.

Houston's deal is also the second-largest contract ever for a defensive player, behind only Ndamukong Suh. Houston becomes one of five non-quarterbacks to make $16 million per season -- Watt, Suh, Calvin Johnson and Mario Williams.

Houston earned 22 sacks in 2014, falling just half a sack shy of the NFL single-season record.

While Houston goes overlooked by his colleagues -- No. 27 in the player's 2015 Top 100 list -- and most of the general populous, his new contract empathically exhibits his worth to the Chiefs and proclaims his status as one of the premiere sack masters in the NFL.

The 26-year-old plays a pivotal role in a Chiefs defense that relies on pressuring the quarterback with its front seven. With Houston's future secure, he can roll into 2015 with confidence, chasing Michael Strahan's single-season sack record and backing up his proclamation that he is part of the best pass-rushing duo in the NFL.

Unless they do in fact want to make a play for Mathis, could be possible I suppose.

The Chiefs cap is fine. Alex doesn't have a new era QB contract. It's a $17 million average.
The new QB contracts with the cap rise will be in the $21-22 million range. Alex won't see $20 million in his last year of his deal.

The disparity from $17 million avg (the new avg for middle of the pack QB's) to the new era $21-22 million from what the QB market is becoming is the perfect to give to your best player.

Dorsey kept saying over and over again that Houston wasn't going anywhere and well he didn't. He was a man of his word!!

Would like to keep those players.

I would like to keep one of Stephenson/Allen if they play well this year. We need some continuity on the ****ing OL.

Only problem is your bugger will look like a whiskey shot glass when you come out!

Josh Martin?

Why?

SWEET!

Best off season evah!

Or Cyrus Gray.

I wasn't really in doubt that this would happen. Good job, Dorsey, Clark, and Justin. :thumb:

Great news!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Blessed To make <a href="https://twitter.com/JHouston50">@JHouston50</a> the highest paid LB in the NFL <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/blessed?src=hash">#blessed</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/hardestworkingagent?src=hash">#hardestworkingagent</a> <a href="http://t.co/Gt4F5X7QyW">pic.twitter.com/Gt4F5X7QyW</a></p>&mdash; Greg Barnett (@gbo74) <a href="https://twitter.com/gbo74/status/621353269407842304">July 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Dude! You're wound up too tight. Relax, this is a good day. :)

All anyone should be concerned about is the $52 million guaranteed. That's an average of $13 million per season for four years. I'm sure that there are escalators and workout bonuses that get him to about $15 million per but I'm guessing the other $40 million is backloaded into $20 million per season the final two years, which is money he'll likely never see.

We'll know more soon but this appears to be a great deal for both the Chiefs and Houston.

What...




The...



F...!?

Great ST player and a very hard worker. Might now start over Houston or Hali but he does help out.

The final piece of the puzzle for a potentially spectacular year is now in place. Still plenty of question marks with the roster, but Dorsey and co have done their best. i for one am hoping to enjoy the ride that a top 5 defense and talented offense can sustain.

Congrats.

Can someone explain how the guaranteed portion works? I thought only the signing bonus was guaranteed. How is the other $32.5 million guaranteed? And wouldn't that equal $53 million, not $52.5 million?

This is important to note. Mario Williams signed a deal for roughly $16 mil per year in 20-****ing-12. IIRC, no defensive player had signed a contract worth $100 million prior to this offseason. Now there are three with contracts that large.

It may seem like a colossal burden now, but if he's racking up 16 sacks a season three years from now on this same deal it'll be a hell of a steal.

this is one of three good things Fat Scott gave the Chiefs so thanks Fat Scott for taking a guy who fell into your fat untalented lap and should never have been there

RAUSCH AND I WERE WRONG!!!!!!


It's all good. I am happy to be wrong.

Great news! Signing Von will be so much easier now.

Yes!!!!!!!!

Good points. And he's so much more than just a sack artist. :thumb:

You think that's how it works?

Really glad we didn't pay Albert and Hudson.

Of course you were. :p

We should have resigned Houston and Hudson two years ago.

Because we didn't we lost one and paid out the ass for the other.

Can't change that now. Hopefully we learned from it...

$20m signing bonus. Appx. $8m in cap space now per Joel C. PBJ

He deserved that signing bonus. We've been getting him cheap.

8 milllion in cap space so we can sign one of these veterans out there as insurance policies? nice. go get a James Jones or Jermaine Gresham and go to work.

That can't be right.

Maybe weatherman was right?

Per Ian Rapoport

How quiet was the deal between the #Chiefs and Justin Houston? The agreement was actually struck last night, finalized today.

Yeah it's the Chiefs fault that Houston and Hudson aren't morons for accepting Costco extensions with FA looming

If we could get a vet WR that's a respectable no 2 or 3 it'd be nice. It's still possible, we haven't even started camp yet...:)

Whatever they wanted two years ago it sure as hell isn't what they'e making now...

He's usually spot on with breakdowns of contracts.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Based on <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet">@RapSheet</a>&#39;s report of $20.5M Justin Houston signing bonus, KC should pick up around $8M of cap space with small &#39;15 base salary.</p>&mdash; Joel Corry (@corryjoel) <a href="https://twitter.com/corryjoel/status/621366028690272256">July 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Also....interesting thought.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/corryjoel">@corryjoel</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor">@TerezPaylor</a> enough to sign Evan Mathis?...reason why he hasn&#39;t signed anywhere yet?</p>&mdash; Spider Rico (@7points) <a href="https://twitter.com/7points/status/621355041530589184">July 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Prevailing wisdom is that you can usually sign a player for less before he gets into his final contract year.

That's why. There are always camp cuts plus now we can sign Evan Mathis 😏

Better run Peyton. 5-0's coming for ya.

It would be nice...

That's hard to fathom.

His cap hit this year will be less than 6 mil?

Yes. Having a recent top of the market contract to give a baseline helps a lot. The only reason DT hasn't been signed is because there isn't a recent top WR contract to provide a baseline. DT and Dez are trying to use Calvin Johnson's contract but the only reason CJ got that was because of the old CBA. Demaryius and Dez will set the standard that guys like AJ Green and Julio Jones will use next year.

That really doesn't make sense for either Houston or the Chiefs.

Suh's hit in the first year of his contract is like that.

Annual Salary: $985k
Signing bonus: $5.1 million.

The Dolphins pushed his biggest cap hit to his 2nd year where:

Annual Salary: $23.485 million
Signing bonus: $5.1 million


Not saying that's what the Chiefs did.....but it's not outside the realm of possibilities.

Miller will ask for more, and it would be sheer stupidity for the Broncos to sign him to a larger contract.

The Donkey defense doesn't suffer nearly as much without Miller as the Chiefs without Houston.

This is Suh's cap hits over his contract.

Salary Cap Numbers:

Base salary + Workout Bonus + Signing Bonus Prorate = Salary Cap Number

2015: $6.1 million
2016: $28.6 million
2017: $15.1 million
2018: $22.1 million
2019: $24.1 million
2020: $18.375 million

13.x million guaranteed goes directly against the cap.

Signing bonus is spread across all years, and he could have a low salary number this year

Would love to see Thomas rape them for big money and shrink that available cap...

Von IS the Broncos defense. Denver was one of the worst defensive teams in the league from 2007-2010, ever since Von came here we have been one of the 5 best defenses in the league.

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Chiefs Sign Justin Houston
Posted on July 15, 2015 by Jason Fitzgerald

For all the talk surrounding the big name wide receivers on the franchise tag, it was the Chiefs and outside linebacker Justin Houston making the most noise with a record setting six year, $101 million contract for Houston. According to Jason LaCanfora, Houston will earn $32.5 million in full guarantees and $52.5 million in injury guarantees. He also stated that he will earn $52.5 million by March of 2017 which might indicate the biggest contract for densive players not named Suh.

The language in LaCanfora’s tweet is interesting and makes me think Houston may have surpassed the others. $43 million by March of 2016 and $52.5 by March 2017 indicates large offseason payments either in the form of roster bonuses or option bonuses, the latter of which is not really typical for Kansas City. That means there is still salary to be accounted for between March and the end of the regular season. Given that the Chiefs are typically big on workout bonuses those are likely in there plus at the least the required minimum P5 salary. Based on that it would seem firm that Houston surpassed Watt’s $43 million two year total and has an outsie chance at surpassing the $54 million three year total. This contract blows away the Clay Matthews deal which was the standard for 34 outside linebackers.

Unlike the other tagged players, Houston had leverage in his negotiation. The Chiefs had the most difficult cap situation remaining in the NFL with just slightly over $500,000 in cap room remaining. That figure included Houston on a $13.2 million tender. They needed to bring his cap figure down by at least $4 million to function this year. If not they would need to rework other contracts. Their cap situation should improve next season.

The $32.5 million in full guarantees is impressive. He would have earned just over $29 million the next two years if he was tagged two times in a row. So the Chiefs conceded an additional $3.5 million guaranteed and if the $43M plus number is accurate, over $11 million in additional salary. The three year salary is also likely bigger than or at the least very similar to being tagged three times in a row. So this is a very big deal for Houston, especially given his situation.

The massive contract given by the Chiefs shows why teams really should not wait for certain players unless there are significant questions about them. Houston had 22 sacks over the 2012 and 2013 seasons despite missing five games. Once Robert Quinn signed last summer for over $14 million it was clear that the market for pass rushers was going to be excessive. With Ndamukong Suh and Gerald McCoy both set for free agency and likely setting records for interior linemen, the wait seemed ill advised for Kansas City especially given their cap situation. Better to have gotten the clock moving on bonus prorations last season than this one.

The biggest beneficiary of the contract will be Von Miller of the Broncos whose asking price likely goes sky high with so many rushers now into the $16M+ territory. Also helped by this is Greg Hardy, Aldon Smith, and Jason Pierre Paul, all of whom have major question marks surrounding them, but can expect to earn big if they hit free agency and have big seasons this year.

Now you know what it costs to keep him.

Good luck with that...

It just doesn't make sense to me.

The Chiefs don't need 8 mil to sign Evan Mathis if that's what they want to pursue, or to trade for Kendricks, or hell to even do both.