You mean like Broncos fans have done 3 of the last 4 years?

2012-We got Manning we won the offseason!
2013-We got Welker we won the offseason!
2014-We got Ware and Talib we won the offseason!

Denver has "won" free agency 3 of the last 4 years. It's pretty comical seeing a Donkey fan throw rocks from his glass house.

The Broncos are not the chiefs. Let me say it another way: the Broncos put a priority on the QB position and when Manning retires, I'm confident Elway will find a replacement either via the draft or FA.

chefsplanet has been saying this crap for the last 4 years, even longer:

1.) 1st, there was "no way Manning signs with the Broncos because the Broncos don't have talent."--WRONG.

2.) Then it was "Manning will suck due to neck injury"--WRONG.

3.) Now it's "Once Manning is gone the Broncos will suck!"

Don't you all ever get tired of being wrong?

lol, this is in response to the constant "CHIEFS WIN OFFSEASON!" posts that happen year after year not only on the planet but on the mane as well. So, what do Broncos fans say in reply: "hey, we've had a pretty good offseason too."

No they don't. Elway got extremely lucky that Manning was even available when he was. Just like King Carl back when Joe Montana was available.

Elway put such a high priority on the QB that he started off his regime starting Kyle ****ing Orton.

The fact is that if Manning wouldn't have been available Elway probably would have started Assweiler.

lol, wut? Do you even read your own posts? Elway inherited Orton and TT so he played the hand he was dealt. Then Elway got Manning and got rid of TT and at the same time drafted Osweiler. In the last 4 years Elway has drafted 3 QBs--Osweiler, Dysert and Siemian. Now that Kubiak is in town as the HC it's up to Kubs to either start one of these guys or tell Elway to find another QB via the draft or FA. In other words, Elway hasn't been sitting on his hands.

What about the most important one about Manning NOT winning a SB in Denver because he chokes in the playoffs? :shrug:

Remember, we KNOW a little bit about choking in the playoffs...;)

That is the point. Elway was dealt the best hand when Manning was available. Can you remember a HOF caliber QB that was available in free agency? The last example of that that I can think of was when we got Joe Montana 20 years earlier. It's incredibly rare.

When Manning retires, he's on a level playing field like the rest of the league and will have to either draft one (these QB's are extremely rare), trade for some mid level player like Alex (because franchise QB's are very rarely or available) or roll with Assweiler.

We will find out how good Elway is after Manning is gone.

Yes, we will. The 2016 draft is going to have some good QB prospects and the Broncos have a lot of draft picks to move up and down.

:spock:

Denver's gone 13-3, 13-3, 12-4 in those three seasons. They got to the Super Bowl in one of those three years. They got to the playoffs all three of those years.

I don't know if that's winning the offseason or not, but it's pretty good no matter how you phrase it.

Our future isn't bright until we find a QB

Cheaters will find a way to get Luck.

I'm fairly confident that Manning will be a Bronco until he retires. That may be after this year, but I don't see the Broncos cutting him.

Clady is probably gone, he costs way too much for a guy who never seems to play. Talib is probably gone, based on the structure of his contract, I think that's what they were planning on. Ware is in the same boat, his cap hit skyrockets and his dead money drops after 2015.

How dare you refer to that trash as DT. There was only one.

He's clearly hit his "Montana Wall."

It's laughably hilarious to me that Chiefs fans are writing off Peyton Manning ... especially in the regular season.

Ok morons.

...and someone really ranked Peyton as the 7th best player in the AFC West, eh? Hahahahaha.

Until I see otherwise, we're still shooting for the 5 seed, at best, until #18 hangs them up

You just sucked the last seed out of his body

maybe ... but I can pretty much guarantee what one of the top 5 stories of the first half of the season will be

Peyton's "fountain of youth." How does he keep doing it?

And then he'll fade towards the end like he has when it has gotten cold the first three years while in Denver. They'll be 12-4 or better. It's clockwork. Peyton and Tom always win their divisions.

It's hilarious that 2 months of a hurt Peyton Manning is how people expect he'll return this year.

Peyton will be fine until about week 10 when his age starts to factor in.

We can win the division if we beat them and take care of business in the first half of the season.
This is the first year that Denver isn't the runaway favorite for the division. The Broncos had a very bad offseason.

I don't necessarily disagree but I think the Chiefs HAVE to get to 12 wins if they want to win the division.

ROFL @ Broncos fans thinking they will be relevant after Manning is gone

We won a playoff game the year before he came to Denver and we will win more the year after he is gone. The Broncos will always be relevant, just as they have been for the past 30+ years.

You only got into that playoff game because Marion Barber was a ****ing idiot.

And that Raider **** blocked two field of our field goals in one game.

Tebow Time. I ****ing hated that season.

Guy beat us completing like 2 passes all game.

Shanahan might still be in Denver if Dwayne Bowe could cover an onside kick.

To this day I still don't know how we lost that ****ing game...:banghead:

It's going to be fun watching what Denver does after Manning leaves. Bet they have some down years immediately following Manning's exit.

Of course they will. You don't go from 13-3ish for three years straight, lose your HOF QB, then go on to continue owning your division like nothing happened.

As far as I'm aware, there aren't any Andrew Luck's coming out any time soon so if they're able to land another all-time prospect, I'd consider them EXCEEDINGLY lucky.

Trying to think of who they could even get? Doubtful Rivers would get traded. Brees is a possibility but he's be turning 38 the year he played for them and I doubt that he won't retire a Saint.
RG3 and Kaepernick are the only Current NFL QB's I can see a team going for.

Why don't you black bob yourself???

....then KC packed his shit in in Pile High

Either they roll with Osweiler and see if he pans out or they'll pick up a Matt Flynn type backup, fail for a season and then magically draft the next Elway.

Because Chiefs.

That season may have been the most fun I've ever had watching football.

speaks volumes of what kind of fan you are

that was a terrible, awful brand of football

Sorry but once Elway retired you weren't relevant. You were only relevant Tebows year because he was a media darling.

Boring ass football.

I'll bet.

Tebow gets all the credit but it was your defense and opponent's stupidity that made that season for you.

I swear to God that, even if I were a Broncos fan, that season would have pissed me THE **** OFF because all of that "Tebow mania" bullshit would have made me think the organization would have been too big of cowards to move on from that AWFUL, NO CHANCE IN HELL OF WINNING ANYTHING IMPORTANT football and that, as a fan, I'd have been stuck with another year of the worst QB I've ever seen in my life (Tebow). Sadly, Elway was too smart ... as a Chiefs fan, I adored Tebow with the Broncos. He was literally the worst NFL QB I've ever seen and I've watched Tyler Palko start like 4 games.

You had to live through the 2010 Broncos to appreciate the 2011 Broncos.

And he won them a playoff game when we haven't won one in 20 years. ****

Yeah, our 24th ranked defense was the ticket.

simply don't give a **** about that ... HE didn't win shit. His team won. His defense was spectacular. Completing a 12 yard crossing route pass against a defense that stacked the box with 9 guys because YOU'RE SO BAD and then watching Demaryius take it for a score is not impressive to me.

...and then losing by 200 points to Tom Brady the next week is not impressive to me

in hindsight, I wish Tebow (excuse me, the Broncos defense) would have beat Tom Brady, too ... cuz then the Manning era in Denver hopefully never happens and then the Chiefs or San Diego win the division the past 3 years

instead, Elway saw through all of the dipshit Christian idiot psycho fans and signed Manning (must be nice) and also found a way to flip the worst QB in NFL history for a 4th round pick (or was it a 3rd)?

Good God.

Every game was close, and Tebow would play absolutely awful for three and a half quarters but you knew that if we were within a score at the end of the game that Tebow was gonna show up and win the game. It's nice having a juggernaut offense but I enjoyed the Tebow season more than any Manning season so far.

I have no idea where you get that ranking from ... but if you're trying to imply Tebow was the reason for Denver's success that year and Tebow had anything to do with anything ... you're a god damn ****ing idiot

and if you're a Denver fan and you truly watch the games and you want to pretend the defense wasn't a bigger factor than Tebow in the "Tebow Mania" year ... I just cannot respect any opinion you have going forth about anything, ever

Tebow was god ****ing awful. And I get Denver homers wanted to "homer" him then, but at this point, are they really going to still defend him?

I have facebook archived posts from "Tebow mania" where I was certain he'd be out of the league in 2 years. Well, it only took 1, but yeah. He was that bad.

Tebow was gone no matter what he won that season. Elway couldn't stand him.

and that's because NFL defensive coordinators and head coaches are mouth breathing reeruns late in games ... and instead of stacking the box with 8 like they did for 3.5 quarters and pressuring Tebow ... they went into prevent mode and let the bumbling reerun do his Tebow shit where he ran around the pocket like a chicken with his head cut off for 12 seconds and then the defense inevitably broke down and he would manage to pull off some dipshit miracle

...he was lucky. That would have never held up. Shit, Romeo Crennel ended up ruining his career when he game planned him week 17 by stacking the box with 9 and he had the worst game I ever saw in my life ... New England did the same thing in the playoffs and it was rinse, wash, repeat

be thankful Elway was smart enough to go get Manning and that idiot in NYJ was dumb enough to give up a pick for that shit ass QB

because Elway knew he was a garbage ass "QB" (the quotes being necessary). The best thing Elway ever did for Denver is arguably get rid of bumbling reerun for Peyton ... and that's saying something, as he took Denver to 5 Super Bowls and won 2

It certainly wasn't Teebz

LMAO

I got the ranking from the fact that they gave up 390 points, good for 24th in the NFL that season.

You're right that Tebow was an awful passer, but he was pretty good at running with the ball, and he didn't turn it over much. We were able to keep games close, and then Tebow would pull a drive out of who-knows-where to win.

It absolutely wouldn't have worked for a second season, we would have been awful in 2012 if Tebow had stayed.

I don't disagree, but it was still awesome to watch. Luck was on our side that year and it was really fun.
The Steelers did the exact same thing in the playoff game and Tebow and DT went off. And then this happened in OT...

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Just like today's Broncos the defense was good against teams without an elite offense....raped otherwise

The ****ing Denver defense kept them in the game. If you think they weren't the factor then you don't pay attention. Tebow sucked and that defense was the key down the stretch every game.

^

Yup, absolutely.




Nah. That had been the most ridiculously entertaining season in recent memory when it happened. I wasn't even upset when we lost to the Pats. That would be like having your dog do your High School homework and then being mad because he got a few questions wrong.

Last year was it for Denver Knowmo and you know it. That's why you hid like a bitch.

I think Denver fans are over-estimating Kubiak. They want to rush more yet have 4 new OL and a new scheme. If they run a more scripted offense...that takes away a big part of what makes Manning great. If that o-line is as bad as it probably will be..they will have trouble pounding the ball. Anderson's success is partially due to defenses conceding the run to stop Manning. No Welker or Thomas this season. It just doesn't sound all that great...Manning/Kubiak seem like a bad match..stylistically. I'll be surprised if Peyton makes through the season...39 + inexperienced o-line + inability to escape the pocket.

They also dont really have a NT suited for a 3-4.

Even with Smith's ability to run... a bad o-line resulted in an injury last season.

Dude I was banned. I never hid.

Now Eeyore, how many great qb's has Dungver ever drafted?? They didn't even draft Smellway. I'm not concerned.

Yeah, everyone knows it was God that willed that team to win BECAUSE of Tebow!

Welching coward

How can Tebow even be debated? He is not remotely good enough to play QB and nearly everyone in America knew it before he was drafted. He is terrible no matter what little bit of luck he had for a few games.

Last I checked, his jerseys sales were in the top 20.

It's definitely going to be interesting on offense for the Broncos. As for the defense, I love Wade Phillips and his ability to let the best players play their best game.

Considering all the philosophy changes and a new o-line...coupled with the Chargers and Chiefs improving and healthy (for now). It's going to be a lot closer race in the AFCW...hate to say it but the Raiders are getting better too...not enough to make a significant impact this year.

The home opener against Denver will an interesting game...I'm extremely curious to what having a real #1 WR does for Kelce and Charles.