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penbrook 07-20-2015 06:48 PM

That almost went out

kstater 07-20-2015 06:48 PM

I thought Omar had a dinger there.

petegz28 07-20-2015 06:49 PM

rios gotta come through here

C3HIEF3S 07-20-2015 06:49 PM

Going to be a thrilling game, from the looks of the first 2 innings.

tk13 07-20-2015 06:49 PM

Infante cannot be contained.

Deberg_1990 07-20-2015 06:50 PM

Infante tearing it up!

Hootie 07-20-2015 06:50 PM

Can't wait to see how dipshit ****s this one up

petegz28 07-20-2015 06:50 PM

that was ball 4

petegz28 07-20-2015 06:50 PM

:facepalm:

Dartgod 07-20-2015 06:51 PM

****ing Rios can't even put the ball in play.

petegz28 07-20-2015 06:51 PM

we have to get at least 1 here..we cannot **** this off

KevB 07-20-2015 06:51 PM

Put it in play somewhere and we score. Terrible.

KChiefs1 07-20-2015 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 11608638)
I thought Omar had a dinger there.


Warning track power.

RollChiefsRoll 07-20-2015 06:51 PM

Rios you ****

KChiefs1 07-20-2015 06:51 PM

Rios sucks.

Dartgod 07-20-2015 06:52 PM

Owww!

Hootie 07-20-2015 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11608644)
Can't wait to see how dipshit ****s this one up

Figured

C3HIEF3S 07-20-2015 06:52 PM

Get back in this one boys!

petegz28 07-20-2015 06:52 PM

esky gotta stay out of the dp

KevB 07-20-2015 06:52 PM

Slap a liner to right here

C3HIEF3S 07-20-2015 06:52 PM

Ball in the gap or down the line and Dyson will be walking home safely.

Hootie 07-20-2015 06:53 PM

Too bad dumb **** didn't take that walk by defensively swinging at ball four

Hootie 07-20-2015 06:53 PM

Double here ties the game

TLO 07-20-2015 06:53 PM

I thought Esky was about to kill that shit.

KevB 07-20-2015 06:53 PM

Hanging spinner

petegz28 07-20-2015 06:54 PM

this won't end well.....rios sapped the momentum

KevB 07-20-2015 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11608663)
Too bad dumb **** didn't take that walk by defensively swinging at ball four

In prime 3-1 count

C3HIEF3S 07-20-2015 06:54 PM

Damn, hell of a play.

KevB 07-20-2015 06:54 PM

Sob

Dartgod 07-20-2015 06:55 PM

GAAAAAH!!

TLO 07-20-2015 06:55 PM

****ing Krang.

petegz28 07-20-2015 06:55 PM

wow....this really sucks..come on moose

Dartgod 07-20-2015 06:55 PM

Moose Dong!!

Discuss Thrower 07-20-2015 06:55 PM

I'll never get how a "ung" sound gets transliterated as a "ang."

C3HIEF3S 07-20-2015 06:55 PM

Well that sucks.

KevB 07-20-2015 06:56 PM

****ing brutal

eDave 07-20-2015 06:56 PM

Blah

Dartgod 07-20-2015 06:56 PM

Well, ****!

bsroyals54 07-20-2015 06:56 PM

**** not even one

petegz28 07-20-2015 06:56 PM

welp....2nd & 3rd, no outs and we don't get shit...not our game tonight....thanks rios

siberian khatru 07-20-2015 06:56 PM

That was not optimal

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-20-2015 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11608631)
Ventura needs to throw 98-100 or he can't get people out

How much of it is just regression to the mean, though?

His walk rate is down, K-rate is the same, he's inducing more groundballs, fewer line drives, and fewer flyballs. When he throws a ball outside of the zone and the batter swings, they make contact a lot less often than last year, but they hit stuff inside the zone more often.

His SIERA and xFIP is almost the same as last year, where he outperformed his peripherals.

I haven't seen him save for a few starts (once live). Is he really all that different of a pitcher? They all can't have the horseshoe-filled ass of Chris Young.

Hootie 07-20-2015 06:57 PM

Still gonna blame Rios on that. Terrible

Dartgod 07-20-2015 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsroyals54 (Post 11608686)
**** not even one

I blame it on Gordon's injury.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-20-2015 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11608681)
I'll never get how a "ung" sound gets transliterated as a "ang."

Just call him Kim Jong Un. It's easier to remember. I hate that ****.

C3HIEF3S 07-20-2015 06:58 PM

Holy ****ing gut.

RollChiefsRoll 07-20-2015 06:58 PM

Rios is such a boner killer

Dartgod 07-20-2015 06:58 PM

I hope the fat guy on the end just ate Alex Rios.

Discuss Thrower 07-20-2015 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11608692)
Just call him Kim Jong Un. It's easier to remember. I hate that ****.

FYI, Aaron Crow only has two pitches.

petegz28 07-20-2015 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11608690)
Still gonna blame Rios on that. Terrible

**** him...douche swung at ball 4 with a strike to give and then whiffed not even giving us a chance.....

Al Bundy 07-20-2015 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11608689)
How much of it is just regression to the mean, though?

His walk rate is down, K-rate is the same, he's inducing more groundballs, fewer line drives, and fewer flyballs. When he throws a ball outside of the zone and the batter swings, they make contact a lot less often than last year, but they hit stuff inside the zone more often.

His SIERA and xFIP is almost the same as last year, where he outperformed his peripherals.

I haven't seen him save for a few starts (once live). Is he really all that different of a pitcher? They all can't have the horseshoe-filled ass of Chris Young.

A lot more pitches across the middle with no movement and some type of injury.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-20-2015 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11608697)
FYI, Aaron Crow only has two pitches.

Too hard to teach a polished college righty a changeup grip?

Hootie 07-20-2015 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11608689)
How much of it is just regression to the mean, though?

His walk rate is down, K-rate is the same, he's inducing more groundballs, fewer line drives, and fewer flyballs. When he throws a ball outside of the zone and the batter swings, they make contact a lot less often than last year, but they hit stuff inside the zone more often.

His SIERA and xFIP is almost the same as last year, where he outperformed his peripherals.

I haven't seen him save for a few starts (once live). Is he really all that different of a pitcher? They all can't have the horseshoe-filled ass of Chris Young.

Just ask yourself one thing ... What's harder to hit? 95 or 98?

That 3 MPH makes a world of difference. If Kelvin Herrera threw 95 he'd be useless. Last year, Ventura led baseball in pitches thrown over 98 MPH and led all starters in average MPH fastball

This year? I guarantee he's way down. 95 is hittable. 99 takes luck. The difference between 90 & 95 is one thing, the difference between 95 & 100 is just HUGE

Discuss Thrower 07-20-2015 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11608704)
Too hard to teach a polished college righty a changeup grip?

That's duncan's field, not mine.

Hootie 07-20-2015 07:02 PM

He's gunning it now ... Maybe he's done with this "throw softer" bullshit

KChiefs1 07-20-2015 07:03 PM

This series scared me because of the pitching match ups. Cole tomorrow is a loss. I was hoping for a win tonight so we'd have a chance on Wednesday to take the series.

petegz28 07-20-2015 07:03 PM

this game is over

RollChiefsRoll 07-20-2015 07:04 PM

F*******.

C3HIEF3S 07-20-2015 07:04 PM

98 over the heart of the plate.

RedDread 07-20-2015 07:04 PM

This must be what it feels like to play against us when we're hitting well.

Hootie 07-20-2015 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11608710)
This series scared me because of the pitching match ups. Cole tomorrow is a loss. I was hoping for a win tonight so we'd have a chance on Wednesday to take the series.

We were +160 against the Sox with Sale the other day

I've learned not to count the Royals out against ace pitchers this year

tk13 07-20-2015 07:04 PM

If we just played 7 infielders in this inning, we'd have two outs.

KevB 07-20-2015 07:05 PM

No real command to finish guys, and some hard hit ground balls finding holes

C3HIEF3S 07-20-2015 07:05 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yordano Ventura is pitching like a man who wants Kris Medlen to appear tonight.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/status/623297413839597568">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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bsroyals54 07-20-2015 07:05 PM

Can we pick up Ho Kang so we can have Lo Cain and Ho Kang?

Hootie 07-20-2015 07:05 PM

Ventura just sucks to watch this year. No command, mediocre secondary pitches, spike in velo ...

Dartgod 07-20-2015 07:06 PM

BS, he went.

RollChiefsRoll 07-20-2015 07:06 PM

56 pitches. 6 outs. 1 dude who should be in Omaha.

KChiefs1 07-20-2015 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11608716)
We were +160 against the Sox with Sale the other day

I've learned not to count the Royals out against ace pitchers this year


That's going to catch up with us sooner or later.

Dartgod 07-20-2015 07:06 PM

He's a ****ing mental mess.

lewdog 07-20-2015 07:06 PM

And he's mentally likely out of this.

KChiefs1 07-20-2015 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 11608719)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yordano Ventura is pitching like a man who wants Kris Medlen to appear tonight.</p>— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/status/623297413839597568">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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That would be nice to see.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-20-2015 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11608705)
Just ask yourself one thing ... What's harder to hit? 95 or 98?

That 3 MPH makes a world of difference. If Kelvin Herrera threw 95 he'd be useless. Last year, Ventura led baseball in pitches thrown over 98 MPH and led all starters in average MPH fastball

This year? I guarantee he's way down. 95 is hittable. 99 takes luck. The difference between 90 & 95 is one thing, the difference between 95 & 100 is just HUGE

His two seam velocity is 95.7 this year. It was 96.6 last year. He was 96.0 with a four-seamer last year and 94.5 this year.

That could account for some of it, but the increase in the value of his changeup has made him effectively the same pitcher.

jimidollar 07-20-2015 07:07 PM

Looks like we're gonna need more than one SP in a trade.

C3HIEF3S 07-20-2015 07:08 PM

Yodiva Ventura

tk13 07-20-2015 07:08 PM

People say this shouldn't matter, but Shields made such a difference in this staff. Ventura and Duffy have just not been as mentally sharp without him. Shields just set a good example by going out and grinding every start.

RedDread 07-20-2015 07:08 PM

What is it with this team and having headcase pitchers come up through our system?

Deberg_1990 07-20-2015 07:09 PM

Yordana VenBUSTa

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-20-2015 07:09 PM

LMAO. If Alvarez was a 2nd round pick rather than the 2nd overall pick he would have been DFA'd years ago. He is so terrible.

Hootie 07-20-2015 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11608733)
People say this shouldn't matter, but Shields made such a difference in this staff. Ventura and Duffy have just not been as mentally sharp without him. Shields just set a good example by going out and grinding every start.

I just don't agree. You're telling me Jeremy Guthrie isn't a guy who can keep those kids mentally sharp? Come on. That's garbage. Maybe Shields should have taught some of these assholes his changeup. That would've been nice.


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