He was at my friends juicery last night

Didn't fatty McGlockton have surgery and only miss like 4-6 weeks while he was with us? And that was like 15 years ago...

You needn't worry though. When Poe misses half the season, his return in 2016 will be a huge reason for all the "Chiefs to the Super Bowl" predictions!

That and the "Alex and Maclin have a year together in the system now, they will explode in 2016" reason.

Poe is a young guy too so recovery shouldn't be as drastic and his play shouldn't slip either.

We were going to go 1-3 to start anyway.

This doesn't change that.

I'm personally looking beyond this season for reasons that have been said ad nauseum.

Now this is a reason to be concerned.


I agree with Knowmo. It's just an excuse for Poe to miss training camp.

Because that's usually a GREAT idea for a guy who's game is build on stamina and is about to play 1,000 snaps.

He shouldn't be about to play 1000 snaps if our DC would pull his head out.


It's crazy how little our line gets rest.

I would hate to see what, in your line of work, slipped your disc.

Yeah we need another good NT besides Poe. Do we have to wait another 10 years.

This is beyond ****ing stupid

If this team falls behind and has to rely on Alex Smiff we are doomed... This OL is bad.. losing Hudson at center hurt and Fisher sucks.. look at him get beat like a drum by a rookie

https://vine.co/v/O16DrtbD9BO

It's not stupid to think we'll start slow with a hard schedule.

We started slow last year and it wasn't all that hard a schedule...

Start slow, start fast, whatever. Every year is different. What we did last year during certain times of the year has no effect on anything that'll happen this year.

Try harder

Last year was an anomaly in week 1. No Bowe, no DAT, no Wilson, lose Allen/DJ/DeVito in the same game and we didn't have depth. Still weren't sure about Kelce's knee to rush him into a ton of plays as well.

Losing Poe sucks but it's not the end of the world.

I would expect us to either sign someone or play with an alignment with Bailey/DeVito/Howard.

This team at least has some depth to push out there instead of street players like McGlynn and Harris.

My guess is we'll start off 2-2 or 1-3 but finish strong. The last 6 weeks we could easily go 5-1.

I'd say 10-6 and a wild card but wouldn't be shocked if it was a painful first four weeks...

Faider trash

Houston and Denver are both winnable games. Having Denver in KC on Thursday gives homefield a huge advantage. Remember the Oakland game we lost last year on a short week?

GB is a loss, unfortunately.

The Bengals are always beatable, although they're a talented team... But, we'll have Sean Smith back in time to face AJ Green. Hopefully he's not rusty.

Bears, Vikings, Steelers are all winnable games. Should win 2 of 3.

Lions game is up in the air, could go either way.

Then after the Bye we lose to Denver, but we can follow up winning 2 or 3 of the next 4 vs @SD, Buf, @Oak, SD at home.

Then the last 3 we are capable of winning 2 of 3, @Bal, CLE, OAK.

The fact is, this is a talented as hell Chiefs team. We'll put up decent points, and the defense has potential to be top 5 if the secondary holds up.

You mean if the Front Seven holds up, secondary isn't the problem.

By all means, explain to me HOW we aren't going to start 1-3.


Try to make me laugh as much as possible.

playing some new guys this year, we don't really know what we have yet

Absolutely it is.

The LB group is the best in the league with DJ back.

The DL with Poe playing the majority of the season next to Bailey is solid. Devito is ok.

In the secondary we're asking 2 unproven CB's to step up for Sean Smith. Marcus Peters might get beat around at first. We don't know yet. But how often does a rookie CB come in and dominate from day one? It rarely ever happens. The safeties are fairly average, hopefully Tyvon Branch stays healthy for once.

The defense is going to take a step back this season. Might as well be prepared for it...

I could see lateral movement. But how do they take a step back? We saw the effect DJ left and Mauga came in and was trash. Now, hopefully Mauga isn't on the field as much. Addition by subtraction right there.

Duuuuuuuuuuude

Why ya gotta be a meatball all the time?

I'm of the opinion that they overachieved last season.

Overachieved yet finished dead last in takeaways? That won't happen again.

Bullshit. You don't keep every team under 30 pts and not allow a 300 yard passer over the course of an entire season by overachieving. This defense has a shit load of talent and a very good scheme that fits to that talent.

They were dealing with some pretty serious patch working at times. Two ILBs (Mauga and JMJ), a CB (Fleming), a S (Parker), and a DE (Howard) who ended up getting significant playing time when they weren't expected to.

Your whole premise depends on everyone playing as well as they did last season when some are almost guaranteed to regress. Houston will likely still be great but I'd actually be amazed if he recorded 18 sacks this season. Sean Smith, who had a borderline All-Pro level season, will be out for almost a quarter of the season and he can't read rivalry be expected to perform as well as he did last season anyway.

Poe was great at times but he did get pushed around a lot last year.. Look at Austin Frekin Howard a backup guard push the big fella around

https://vine.co/v/OJD7PlLbWzK

Why so pessimistic? You say some will regress yet won't mention how some will progress... Not to mention as I said, this defense was dead last in takeaways. They had terrible luck last season in getting the ball back for the offense.

Ok, so Sean Smith regresses. Houston only has 16 sacks. Poe misses 3 games.

Yet we're improving the #2 CB. Safety depth improves. ILB improves. Bailey continues to progress.

And you ignore those points? Think about everything, not just the negative things.

And so it begins...

:hmmm:

Good. If he's going to play on 89 percent of the defensive snaps again he needs to rest.

Dontari Poe will miss camp due to back injury
 

Because I'm pretty sure most of these guys overachieved. We had a bunch of role players and cast-offs play out of their minds for most of the season.

You have to go into this season fully expecting our three best defenders in Houston, Poe and Smith to regress. Our returning ILB is 33 coming off of an Achilles tear. Tampa Hali is another year older and likely less effective.

Outside of those guys, aside from Bailey and Abdullah who are solid, our defense is full of a bunch of unprovens. Are Ron Parker and Jaye Howard as good as they showed last season? Can Branch last a full 16 game season? Will Devito be effective? Peters, Fleming, Gaines, Catapano and Ford are pretty much brand new to the league.

I'm hoping we can post top 10-ish numbers in PPG allowed but I think top 3 two years in a row with so many possible issues is a bit much.

We've got a ton of talent but rarely in my time as a Chiefs fan have things just fallen into place.

I thought DeVito was penciled in as a NT on the depth chart?

Poe was def overused but he must have injured his back working out in the off season.

Why would we expect that? They're all young. Houston only getting 16 sacks doesn't mean he regressed - it means he didn't have the fantasy numbers he did the year before.

There's no reason to expect him to be any less effective rushing the passer...

I doubt it. I had the same condition and operation when I was 27. Took me about 2.5 months to fully recover. Its much harder on the big guys, and when you consider his line of work, Id bet there is no way he's ready week 1.

I'm no doc but back/neck surgery has progressed greatly in just 10 years. Often you leave with a small scar about an inch...

Because they all had career years.

You can go in expecting them to keep ascending (and you'd have a good case with Houston given his career arc), but that'll have you in line for a serious letdown.

FTR, I'm saying their production will likely regress, not that they'll be worse players for some reason.

He's an elite athlete with the best medical care on earth, and nothing to do but rehab and rest. It's a fair assumption that your experience means nothing.

That makes me feel a lot better. If some random scrub on a KC message board can recover from this injury in a couple months, I bet an elite professional athlete has a good chance to do so in half the time.

Peyton Manning's issues started with a herniated disc.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...c3e_story.html

exactly he was gassed a lot of the time. especially against denver

Hey, drooling reerun, Peyton's problems started when he nearly got his head torn off.

We see what you're doing here and **** you. Go toss your boyfriend MagicHef's salad.

He can't because he doesn't actually counter any take he doesn't agree with by using any substantive reasons. It's just curse word laden insults to other posters. Party like it's 1999.

Poe being less than 100% to begin the year absolutely puts a 1-3 start in play. There's still no one beside DJ among LBs that have proven they can defend the run... and there's the whole issue that people here are totally glossing the **** over in that there's an assumption DJ and DeVito come back with any semblance of being useful on the field. Until they demonstrate that in a regular season game, there's no proof the defense is going to stop the likes of slapdicks like Kerwynn Williams running with impunity.

Your issues started when your father didn't pull out.

A normal person recovery time is about 2.5 to 3 months.

I bet he's back by the 3rd preseason game

I think they are going 1-3 because 3 of the teams the Chiefs play in the first 4 weeks are better.

I remember back when I was in high school I pulled a quad muscle. That shit put me out of commission for like a month or two. I couldn't run for shit until it completely healed up.

Around the same time Priest had pulled a muscle, I think it was a hammy, and I freaked the **** out assuming he'd have to miss a month. The guy was out there tearing shit up the next week with no issues.

They should probably go sign Barry Coefield.

We haven't even had a preseason game yet. We have no idea really, who's gonna be anything this year.

Im probably alone on this one, but I'm counting Poe out this year. Even if he plays, it's not gonna be the same guy. Not until it's fully healed.

And that might not ever happen.

The good news is, this will probably open up opportunities for Catapano to get more reps cause DEs are gonna play the nose unless they go sign Coefield.

2 of them are.

"That might not ever happen"

Drama queen

Denver is 6-0 against us the last 3 years, and they will be just as good early this season.

Green Bay is really ****ing good at home, or anywhere else for that matter.

Cincy is good, especially at home during the regular season.


I think we have an idea who's going to be good during the first month of the season. If you are hoping for injuries, don't hold your breath.

Cincy at home is better.

We go thru this every year.

Too early to tell

Agree to disagree.

you think this CP freakout is bad, go over to AP they're acting like someone ****ed there grandmother's corpse.

Per Adam Teicher

Eric Berry has been cleared to practice with the Chiefs on Wednesday morning.

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Here's to hoping you are proven correct.

Per Adam Teicher

Eric Berry has been cleared to practice with the Chiefs on Wednesday morning.

Fail

Terrible post

I really thought KC might have taken Malcom Brown in the 1st....Happy with the Peters pick but was worried about depth and the number of snaps KC relied on out of Poe.

There doesn't look to be a dominant AFC team this season...everyone has warts. KC has as good as chance as any this year.

ROFLDid he come in with Mecca's girlfriend?

Bravo:clap:LMAO

Says the guy that said that Tyson Jackson would be "awesome".

:shake:

Is Red Bryant still available? Is he worth a shit anymore? I remember this board was pretty high on wanting to sign him in FA a few yrs ago.

Nice insight hog ****er.

3-13

I'll be honest, its not the same defense without Poe...still good but def not the same. Can't replace him. Don't need him in camp or pre-season. Hope he is good for week 1

I know I'll get raked over the coals for this, but Sutton did a good job adjusting to life without Devito, Berry, and DJ. It took a few games to get it where it needed to be, but we were one of the top defenses last year.

While I understand that without the anchor to your defense, a lot goes out the window, but I'm curious to see how, with the amount of time given to adjust, they maximize our players' strengths to minimize the loss of Poe.

At least we have time to work it out, as opposed to adjusting on the fly.

Agreed.

He's clearly a freak and huge part of our D.

That said it's one of the few areas we can sub a guy in and not have huge suck occur. We have b/u guys decent vs the run and at least one draft pick we plan to rotate there and on the DE spot.

I guess he sucks up more NT snaps now...

LOL You were saying...?

That dude is a total meth junky who gives a shit what he says?

Nothing would make you feel better other than a lobotomy, but I'll bet you anything that it takes him at least the same amount of time, or longer, to FULLY recover AND NO WAY he plays, not even one snap, WEEK 1. You have no idea what you're commenting on, fool.